[WISPA] groundcontrol project
For those of you who haven't heard, several of us started a new project yesterday. https://github.com/esseph/groundcontrol Licensing is tentatively set as falling under GPLv2. We have already been offered code snippets, a dev box, a db server, and several people have decided to volunteer time to make this happen. The initial idea is that the system itself will be free, with a possibly paid support/features option, or maybe a model similar to observium where the is a community (free as in beer) version that comes out every 6mo or so, and a paid version with newer features and direct support. We're not sure yet, but we want to make this project accessible and fairly vendor-neutral. If any of you could volunteer time, support, code, documentation, ideas, etc.it would be greatly appreciated. This is a project by and for the WISP community. Thank you! -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project
Would it pay to see if UBNT would allow us to continue to use some of the provisioning mechanisms built into the radios for aircontrol? It's nice to have subscriber units phone home. On 12/3/2014 12:39 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: I was wondering if that might come about. Maybe another wisp that uses their own software might offer something. Mike Hammett wrote: Further driven by today's post that summed up says, We don't care what you want. This is what you get. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_us...@wispa.org, a...@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 3, 2014 1:19:23 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] groundcontrol project For those of you who haven't heard, several of us started a new project yesterday. https://github.com/esseph/groundcontrol Licensing is tentatively set as falling under GPLv2. We have already been offered code snippets, a dev box, a db server, and several people have decided to volunteer time to make this happen. The initial idea is that the system itself will be free, with a possibly paid support/features option, or maybe a model similar to observium where the is a community (free as in beer) version that comes out every 6mo or so, and a paid version with newer features and direct support. We're not sure yet, but we want to make this project accessible and fairly vendor-neutral. If any of you could volunteer time, support, code, documentation, ideas, etc.it would be greatly appreciated. This is a project by and for the WISP community. Thank you! -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- signature http://www.infowest.com/Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project
I've done a bit of work previously to reverse engineering the provisioning mechanism, and I see nothing that would be a problem collecting stats via that method. You'd still have to use groundcontrol to initially connect/provision the units first to exchange SSH keys, and you'd want it to be on a different ip that your previous aircontrol server. A nasty thing about ubnt provisioning... if you replace the server on the same ip or a different ip, all of the radios that were previously provisioned will always try to connect to the old ip/server,which causes quite a bit of arp traffic. one thing I'd like to do is create a cleanup tool for that, though pssh (parallel ssh) + wireshark helped me clean up that mess manually in the past. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/03/2014 11:09 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: Would it pay to see if UBNT would allow us to continue to use some of the provisioning mechanisms built into the radios for aircontrol? It's nice to have subscriber units phone home. On 12/3/2014 12:39 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: I was wondering if that might come about. Maybe another wisp that uses their own software might offer something. Mike Hammett wrote: Further driven by today's post that summed up says, We don't care what you want. This is what you get. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Josh Reynoldsj...@spitwspots.com *To: *WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org, Ubiquiti Users Groupubnt_us...@wispa.org,a...@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 3, 2014 1:19:23 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] groundcontrol project For those of you who haven't heard, several of us started a new project yesterday. https://github.com/esseph/groundcontrol Licensing is tentatively set as falling under GPLv2. We have already been offered code snippets, a dev box, a db server, and several people have decided to volunteer time to make this happen. The initial idea is that the system itself will be free, with a possibly paid support/features option, or maybe a model similar to observium where the is a community (free as in beer) version that comes out every 6mo or so, and a paid version with newer features and direct support. We're not sure yet, but we want to make this project accessible and fairly vendor-neutral. If any of you could volunteer time, support, code, documentation, ideas, etc.it would be greatly appreciated. This is a project by and for the WISP community. Thank you! -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- signature http://www.infowest.com/Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project
My .02 it should be database agnostic from the start otherwise kudos. On Dec 3, 2014 3:07 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Didn't they change the provisioning mechanism in aircontrol 2? I thought they had moved from SSH to something that was supposed to be more efficient. -- *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Reynolds [j...@spitwspots.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 2:56 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project I've done a bit of work previously to reverse engineering the provisioning mechanism, and I see nothing that would be a problem collecting stats via that method. You'd still have to use groundcontrol to initially connect/provision the units first to exchange SSH keys, and you'd want it to be on a different ip that your previous aircontrol server. A nasty thing about ubnt provisioning... if you replace the server on the same ip or a different ip, all of the radios that were previously provisioned will always try to connect to the old ip/server, which causes quite a bit of arp traffic. one thing I'd like to do is create a cleanup tool for that, though pssh (parallel ssh) + wireshark helped me clean up that mess manually in the past. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/03/2014 11:09 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: Would it pay to see if UBNT would allow us to continue to use some of the provisioning mechanisms built into the radios for aircontrol? It's nice to have subscriber units phone home. On 12/3/2014 12:39 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: I was wondering if that might come about. Maybe another wisp that uses their own software might offer something. Mike Hammett wrote: Further driven by today's post that summed up says, We don't care what you want. This is what you get. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com *From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org, Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_us...@wispa.org ubnt_us...@wispa.org, a...@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 3, 2014 1:19:23 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] groundcontrol project For those of you who haven't heard, several of us started a new project yesterday. https://github.com/esseph/groundcontrol Licensing is tentatively set as falling under GPLv2. We have already been offered code snippets, a dev box, a db server, and several people have decided to volunteer time to make this happen. The initial idea is that the system itself will be free, with a possibly paid support/features option, or maybe a model similar to observium where the is a community (free as in beer) version that comes out every 6mo or so, and a paid version with newer features and direct support. We're not sure yet, but we want to make this project accessible and fairly vendor-neutral. If any of you could volunteer time, support, code, documentation, ideas, etc.it would be greatly appreciated. This is a project by and for the WISP community. Thank you! -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- http://www.infowest.com/ Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact rco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies. ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project
Right, so you can scrape the data from /proc, iwinfo, or wherever else, you can push that back to the server using some kind of HTTP call. It just depends on what's handy and what they've included in their busybox build. Like... #!/bin/sh cat /proc/net/wireless | grep ath | sed 's/[ ]\+/,/g' | while read ATHSTAT; do wget -O /dev/null http://gcserver/stat?dev=fooathstats=$ATHSTAT; done -Kristian On 12/03/2014 01:21 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The idea is that we're going to pull stuff from the radios that aren't even exposed via the GUIs... josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com On 12/03/2014 12:14 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote: For at least MikroTik and Ubnt devices, you could push the stats from the device to the server with a REST call using wget and /tool fetch, respectively. For everything else, you're probably going to have to just poll with SNMP, which isn't (shouldn't be) terrible and would be the most widely supported approach. -Kristian On 12/03/2014 01:10 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Mmmm there's still ssh keys in devices that are used for CC to AC2 severs. They did build a custom protocol that runs inside that tunnel though. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com On 12/03/2014 12:07 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Didn't they change the provisioning mechanism in aircontrol 2? I thought they had moved from SSH to something that was supposed to be more efficient. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Reynolds [j...@spitwspots.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 2:56 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project I've done a bit of work previously to reverse engineering the provisioning mechanism, and I see nothing that would be a problem collecting stats via that method. You'd still have to use groundcontrol to initially connect/provision the units first to exchange SSH keys, and you'd want it to be on a different ip that your previous aircontrol server. A nasty thing about ubnt provisioning... if you replace the server on the same ip or a different ip, all of the radios that were previously provisioned will always try to connect to the old ip/server,which causes quite a bit of arp traffic. one thing I'd like to do is create a cleanup tool for that, though pssh (parallel ssh) + wireshark helped me clean up that mess manually in the past. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com On 12/03/2014 11:09 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: Would it pay to see if UBNT would allow us to continue to use some of the provisioning mechanisms built into the radios for aircontrol? It's nice to have subscriber units phone home. On 12/3/2014 12:39 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: I was wondering if that might come about. Maybe another wisp that uses their own software might offer something. Mike Hammett wrote: Further driven by today's post that summed up says, We don't care what you want. This is what you get. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Josh Reynoldsj...@spitwspots.com *To: *WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org, Ubiquiti Users Groupubnt_us...@wispa.org,a...@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 3, 2014 1:19:23 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] groundcontrol project For those of you who haven't heard, several of us started a new project yesterday. https://github.com/esseph/groundcontrol Licensing is tentatively set as falling under GPLv2. We have already been offered code snippets, a dev box, a db server, and several people have decided to volunteer time to make this happen. The initial idea is that the system itself will be free, with a possibly paid support/features option, or maybe a model similar to observium where the is a community (free as in beer) version that comes out every 6mo or so, and a paid version with newer features and direct support. We're not sure yet, but we want to make this project accessible and fairly vendor-neutral. If any of you could volunteer time, support, code, documentation, ideas, etc.it would be greatly appreciated. This is a project by and for the WISP community. Thank you! -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- http://www.infowest.com/Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/
Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol....
I keep thinking it says Gun Control. Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 4:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol to Major Tom Sorry, the song's been in my head since this thread popped up. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D00F18.DF7AE7B0]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 4:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project Didn't they change the provisioning mechanism in aircontrol 2? I thought they had moved from SSH to something that was supposed to be more efficient. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Reynolds [j...@spitwspots.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 2:56 PM To: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project I've done a bit of work previously to reverse engineering the provisioning mechanism, and I see nothing that would be a problem collecting stats via that method. You'd still have to use groundcontrol to initially connect/provision the units first to exchange SSH keys, and you'd want it to be on a different ip that your previous aircontrol server. A nasty thing about ubnt provisioning... if you replace the server on the same ip or a different ip, all of the radios that were previously provisioned will always try to connect to the old ip/server, which causes quite a bit of arp traffic. one thing I'd like to do is create a cleanup tool for that, though pssh (parallel ssh) + wireshark helped me clean up that mess manually in the past. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com On 12/03/2014 11:09 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: Would it pay to see if UBNT would allow us to continue to use some of the provisioning mechanisms built into the radios for aircontrol? It's nice to have subscriber units phone home. On 12/3/2014 12:39 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: I was wondering if that might come about. Maybe another wisp that uses their own software might offer something. Mike Hammett wrote: Further driven by today's post that summed up says, We don't care what you want. This is what you get. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org, Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_us...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_us...@wispa.org, a...@afmug.commailto:a...@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 3, 2014 1:19:23 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] groundcontrol project For those of you who haven't heard, several of us started a new project yesterday. https://github.com/esseph/groundcontrol Licensing is tentatively set as falling under GPLv2. We have already been offered code snippets, a dev box, a db server, and several people have decided to volunteer time to make this happen. The initial idea is that the system itself will be free, with a possibly paid support/features option, or maybe a model similar to observium where the is a community (free as in beer) version that comes out every 6mo or so, and a paid version with newer features and direct support. We're not sure yet, but we want to make this project accessible and fairly vendor-neutral. If any of you could volunteer time, support, code, documentation, ideas, etc.it would be greatly appreciated. This is a project by and for the WISP community. Thank you! -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- [cid:image002.png@01D00F18.DF7AE7B0]http://www.infowest.com/ Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.comhttp://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact
Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol....
Which brings up the question who amid this motley crew is Major Tom? Or is that the devices? On 12/03/2014 01:44 PM, Patrick Leary wrote: to Major Tom Sorry, the song's been in my head since this thread popped up. *Patrick Leary* ***M*727.501.3735 http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 4:07 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project Didn't they change the provisioning mechanism in aircontrol 2? I thought they had moved from SSH to something that was supposed to be more efficient. *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Reynolds [j...@spitwspots.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 2:56 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project I've done a bit of work previously to reverse engineering the provisioning mechanism, and I see nothing that would be a problem collecting stats via that method. You'd still have to use groundcontrol to initially connect/provision the units first to exchange SSH keys, and you'd want it to be on a different ip that your previous aircontrol server. A nasty thing about ubnt provisioning... if you replace the server on the same ip or a different ip, all of the radios that were previously provisioned will always try to connect to the old ip/server, which causes quite a bit of arp traffic. one thing I'd like to do is create a cleanup tool for that, though pssh (parallel ssh) + wireshark helped me clean up that mess manually in the past. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 12/03/2014 11:09 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: Would it pay to see if UBNT would allow us to continue to use some of the provisioning mechanisms built into the radios for aircontrol? It's nice to have subscriber units phone home. On 12/3/2014 12:39 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: I was wondering if that might come about. Maybe another wisp that uses their own software might offer something. Mike Hammett wrote: Further driven by today's post that summed up says, We don't care what you want. This is what you get. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org, Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_us...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_us...@wispa.org, a...@afmug.com mailto:a...@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 3, 2014 1:19:23 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] groundcontrol project For those of you who haven't heard, several of us started a new project yesterday. https://github.com/esseph/groundcontrol Licensing is tentatively set as falling under GPLv2. We have already been offered code snippets, a dev box, a db server, and several people have decided to volunteer time to make this happen. The initial idea is that the system itself will be free, with a possibly paid support/features option, or maybe a model similar to observium where the is a community (free as in beer) version that comes out every 6mo or so, and a paid version with newer features and direct support. We're not sure yet, but we want to make this project accessible and fairly vendor-neutral. If any of you could volunteer time, support, code, documentation, ideas, etc.it would be greatly appreciated. This is a project by and for the WISP community. Thank you! -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list
Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project
That's basically how I've been monitoring our Ubiquiti stuff for years. It's a pretty simple way to go, you just need some mechanism to get the scripts onto the radios. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Kristian Hoffmann [kh...@fire2wire.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 3:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project Right, so you can scrape the data from /proc, iwinfo, or wherever else, you can push that back to the server using some kind of HTTP call. It just depends on what's handy and what they've included in their busybox build. Like... #!/bin/sh cat /proc/net/wireless | grep ath | sed 's/[ ]\+/,/g' | while read ATHSTAT; do wget -O /dev/null http://gcserver/stat?dev=fooathstats=$ATHSTAT;http://gcserver/stat?dev=fooathstats=$ATHSTAT done -Kristian On 12/03/2014 01:21 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The idea is that we're going to pull stuff from the radios that aren't even exposed via the GUIs... josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com On 12/03/2014 12:14 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote: For at least MikroTik and Ubnt devices, you could push the stats from the device to the server with a REST call using wget and /tool fetch, respectively. For everything else, you're probably going to have to just poll with SNMP, which isn't (shouldn't be) terrible and would be the most widely supported approach. -Kristian On 12/03/2014 01:10 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Mmmm there's still ssh keys in devices that are used for CC to AC2 severs. They did build a custom protocol that runs inside that tunnel though. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com On 12/03/2014 12:07 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Didn't they change the provisioning mechanism in aircontrol 2? I thought they had moved from SSH to something that was supposed to be more efficient. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Reynolds [j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 2:56 PM To: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project I've done a bit of work previously to reverse engineering the provisioning mechanism, and I see nothing that would be a problem collecting stats via that method. You'd still have to use groundcontrol to initially connect/provision the units first to exchange SSH keys, and you'd want it to be on a different ip that your previous aircontrol server. A nasty thing about ubnt provisioning... if you replace the server on the same ip or a different ip, all of the radios that were previously provisioned will always try to connect to the old ip/server, which causes quite a bit of arp traffic. one thing I'd like to do is create a cleanup tool for that, though pssh (parallel ssh) + wireshark helped me clean up that mess manually in the past. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com On 12/03/2014 11:09 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: Would it pay to see if UBNT would allow us to continue to use some of the provisioning mechanisms built into the radios for aircontrol? It's nice to have subscriber units phone home. On 12/3/2014 12:39 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: I was wondering if that might come about. Maybe another wisp that uses their own software might offer something. Mike Hammett wrote: Further driven by today's post that summed up says, We don't care what you want. This is what you get. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org, Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_us...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_us...@wispa.org, a...@afmug.commailto:a...@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 3, 2014 1:19:23 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] groundcontrol project For those of you who haven't heard, several of us started a new project yesterday. https://github.com/esseph/groundcontrol Licensing is tentatively set as falling under GPLv2. We have already been offered code snippets, a dev box, a db server, and several people have decided to volunteer time to make this happen. The initial idea is that the system itself will be free, with a possibly paid support/features option, or maybe a model similar to observium where the is a community (free as in beer) version that comes out every 6mo or so, and a paid version with newer features and direct support. We're not sure yet, but we want to make this project accessible and fairly vendor-neutral. If any of you could volunteer time, support, code, documentation,
Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol....
Mee too!! ...Put your helmet on. -- On 12/3/2014 4:44 PM, Patrick Leary wrote: to Major Tom Sorry, the song's been in my head since this thread popped up. *Patrick Leary* ***M*727.501.3735 http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 4:07 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project Didn't they change the provisioning mechanism in aircontrol 2? I thought they had moved from SSH to something that was supposed to be more efficient. *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Reynolds [j...@spitwspots.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 2:56 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project I've done a bit of work previously to reverse engineering the provisioning mechanism, and I see nothing that would be a problem collecting stats via that method. You'd still have to use groundcontrol to initially connect/provision the units first to exchange SSH keys, and you'd want it to be on a different ip that your previous aircontrol server. A nasty thing about ubnt provisioning... if you replace the server on the same ip or a different ip, all of the radios that were previously provisioned will always try to connect to the old ip/server, which causes quite a bit of arp traffic. one thing I'd like to do is create a cleanup tool for that, though pssh (parallel ssh) + wireshark helped me clean up that mess manually in the past. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 12/03/2014 11:09 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: Would it pay to see if UBNT would allow us to continue to use some of the provisioning mechanisms built into the radios for aircontrol? It's nice to have subscriber units phone home. On 12/3/2014 12:39 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: I was wondering if that might come about. Maybe another wisp that uses their own software might offer something. Mike Hammett wrote: Further driven by today's post that summed up says, We don't care what you want. This is what you get. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Josh Reynoldsj...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com *To: *WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org, Ubiquiti Users Groupubnt_us...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_us...@wispa.org,a...@afmug.com mailto:a...@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 3, 2014 1:19:23 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] groundcontrol project For those of you who haven't heard, several of us started a new project yesterday. https://github.com/esseph/groundcontrol Licensing is tentatively set as falling under GPLv2. We have already been offered code snippets, a dev box, a db server, and several people have decided to volunteer time to make this happen. The initial idea is that the system itself will be free, with a possibly paid support/features option, or maybe a model similar to observium where the is a community (free as in beer) version that comes out every 6mo or so, and a paid version with newer features and direct support. We're not sure yet, but we want to make this project accessible and fairly vendor-neutral. If any of you could volunteer time, support, code, documentation, ideas, etc.it would be greatly appreciated. This is a project by and for the WISP community. Thank you! -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol....
That I won't touch! Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 5:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol Which brings up the question who amid this motley crew is Major Tom? Or is that the devices? On 12/03/2014 01:44 PM, Patrick Leary wrote: to Major Tom Sorry, the song's been in my head since this thread popped up. *Patrick Leary* ***M*727.501.3735 http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 4:07 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project Didn't they change the provisioning mechanism in aircontrol 2? I thought they had moved from SSH to something that was supposed to be more efficient. -- -- *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Reynolds [j...@spitwspots.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 2:56 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project I've done a bit of work previously to reverse engineering the provisioning mechanism, and I see nothing that would be a problem collecting stats via that method. You'd still have to use groundcontrol to initially connect/provision the units first to exchange SSH keys, and you'd want it to be on a different ip that your previous aircontrol server. A nasty thing about ubnt provisioning... if you replace the server on the same ip or a different ip, all of the radios that were previously provisioned will always try to connect to the old ip/server, which causes quite a bit of arp traffic. one thing I'd like to do is create a cleanup tool for that, though pssh (parallel ssh) + wireshark helped me clean up that mess manually in the past. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 12/03/2014 11:09 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: Would it pay to see if UBNT would allow us to continue to use some of the provisioning mechanisms built into the radios for aircontrol? It's nice to have subscriber units phone home. On 12/3/2014 12:39 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: I was wondering if that might come about. Maybe another wisp that uses their own software might offer something. Mike Hammett wrote: Further driven by today's post that summed up says, We don't care what you want. This is what you get. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- -- *From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org, Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_us...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_us...@wispa.org, a...@afmug.com mailto:a...@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 3, 2014 1:19:23 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] groundcontrol project For those of you who haven't heard, several of us started a new project yesterday. https://github.com/esseph/groundcontrol Licensing is tentatively set as falling under GPLv2. We have already been offered code snippets, a dev box, a db server, and several people have decided to volunteer time to make this happen. The initial idea is that the system itself will be free, with a possibly paid support/features option, or maybe a model similar to observium where the is a community (free as in beer) version that comes out every 6mo or so, and a paid version with newer features and direct support. We're not sure yet, but we want to make this project accessible and fairly vendor-neutral. If any of you could volunteer time, support, code, documentation, ideas, etc.it would be greatly appreciated. This is a project by and for the WISP community. Thank you! -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com ___ Wireless
