Re: [WISPA] What would you use a drone for?

[Andreas Wiatowski]

I have a DJI Phantom 4 pro.  We primarily use it to inspect tower antennas for 
ICE damage after storms. Saves climbing time etc.  I must look at the 
legalities here in Canada, but since we are flying only around our towers…I 
believe it’s a safe bet no one is going to bug me.  After all, if air traffic 
is anywhere near our towers…there are bigger problems. Flying over busy streets 
and people or near an airport, you are asking for problems.

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From:  on behalf of David Jones 

Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 1:58 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: [WISPA] What would you use a drone for?

Good day, I am trying to list out all the uses for a drone to justify buying 
one.

Here are a few that I have come up with:

1. New tower site surveys. we are running into areas that our standard 45' 
tower will not cut it. (I know its short but hey we have elevation changes from 
7200' to 8600' in less than 3 miles.) a drone could be used to determine how 
high a tower needs to be to get the best coverage.

2. Tower maintenance. We have a water tower that we are on that is no longer in 
use nor maintained. The top ladder is about to fall off and we need to get it 
repaired. A drone can take the needed pictures from the top to help us 
determine what parts/bolts/welder we need to fix it. That would save a trip 
with an 80' bucket truck so we only will need it once.

What else can anyone think of for use of a drone? What would justify the cost 
to make it clearly a tool and not a toy?

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Re: [WISPA] What would you use a drone for?

[Nick Bright]

On 4/11/2017 3:42 PM, Walter W. Stumpf Jr. wrote:
> I believe there is a height rule, under 400' does not require a license.
>
> Walter
That is no longer the case, see Dan's previous comments.

https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/

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Re: [WISPA] What would you use a drone for?

[Kian KO. O'Connell]

  1.  Don’t ignore Dan’s comments. It’s easy enough to get the license. But 
they ARE looking to make examples of people.
  2.  I’m using a lot of mimosa lately and they have dual radios, 2..4 and 5 
ghz which allows me to use them for LOS testing and pick the perfect spot for 
the antenna. 
  3.  Don’t skimp. Get a good one or build your own if you have the knowhow. 
You don’t want to have a flyaway that causes a car accident or anything like 
that. Larger ones are more stable. Mine is a home-built 30 inch platform with 8 
motors. It allows for extra weight which is nice when you need to do real 
aerial photography with a real camera with a nice telephoto lens.


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of David Jones
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 12:59 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] What would you use a drone for?

Good day, I am trying to list out all the uses for a drone to justify buying 
one.

Here are a few that I have come up with:

1. New tower site surveys. we are running into areas that our standard 45' 
tower will not cut it. (I know its short but hey we have elevation changes from 
7200' to 8600' in less than 3 miles.) a drone could be used to determine how 
high a tower needs to be to get the best coverage.

2. Tower maintenance. We have a water tower that we are on that is no longer in 
use nor maintained. The top ladder is about to fall off and we need to get it 
repaired. A drone can take the needed pictures from the top to help us 
determine what parts/bolts/welder we need to fix it. That would save a trip 
with an 80' bucket truck so we only will need it once.

What else can anyone think of for use of a drone? What would justify the cost 
to make it clearly a tool and not a toy?

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NGL Connection
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Re: [WISPA] What would you use a drone for?

[Walter W. Stumpf Jr.]

I believe there is a height rule, under 400' does not require a license.

Walter



On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Dan Petermann  wrote:

> To use one commercially you will need to have a UAV license from the FAA.
> It takes about a month of studying and $150.00 for the test. Fines are very
> high, especially as the FAA is looking to make examples of people to
> discourage breaking the law.
>
> Even recreational use requires the drone to be registered with the FAA,
> unless it weighs less than 1/2 a pound.
>
> No flights are authorize within 5 miles of an airport unless you get tower
> permission first.
>
> There are a myriad of rules that people are breaking every day. Flights
> within a TFR could result in prison time.
>
> I got my license last month.
>
>
> On Apr 11, 2017, at 11:58 AM, David Jones  wrote:
>
> > Good day, I am trying to list out all the uses for a drone to justify
> buying one.
> >
> > Here are a few that I have come up with:
> >
> > 1. New tower site surveys. we are running into areas that our standard
> 45' tower will not cut it. (I know its short but hey we have elevation
> changes from 7200' to 8600' in less than 3 miles.) a drone could be used to
> determine how high a tower needs to be to get the best coverage.
> >
> > 2. Tower maintenance. We have a water tower that we are on that is no
> longer in use nor maintained. The top ladder is about to fall off and we
> need to get it repaired. A drone can take the needed pictures from the top
> to help us determine what parts/bolts/welder we need to fix it. That would
> save a trip with an 80' bucket truck so we only will need it once.
> >
> > What else can anyone think of for use of a drone? What would justify the
> cost to make it clearly a tool and not a toy?
> >
> > --
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> > 307-288-5491 ext 702
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Re: [WISPA] What would you use a drone for?

[Dan Petermann]

To use one commercially you will need to have a UAV license from the FAA. It 
takes about a month of studying and $150.00 for the test. Fines are very high, 
especially as the FAA is looking to make examples of people to discourage 
breaking the law. 

Even recreational use requires the drone to be registered with the FAA, unless 
it weighs less than 1/2 a pound.

No flights are authorize within 5 miles of an airport unless you get tower 
permission first. 

There are a myriad of rules that people are breaking every day. Flights within 
a TFR could result in prison time. 

I got my license last month.


On Apr 11, 2017, at 11:58 AM, David Jones  wrote:

> Good day, I am trying to list out all the uses for a drone to justify buying 
> one.
> 
> Here are a few that I have come up with:
> 
> 1. New tower site surveys. we are running into areas that our standard 45' 
> tower will not cut it. (I know its short but hey we have elevation changes 
> from 7200' to 8600' in less than 3 miles.) a drone could be used to determine 
> how high a tower needs to be to get the best coverage.
> 
> 2. Tower maintenance. We have a water tower that we are on that is no longer 
> in use nor maintained. The top ladder is about to fall off and we need to get 
> it repaired. A drone can take the needed pictures from the top to help us 
> determine what parts/bolts/welder we need to fix it. That would save a trip 
> with an 80' bucket truck so we only will need it once.
> 
> What else can anyone think of for use of a drone? What would justify the cost 
> to make it clearly a tool and not a toy?
> 
> -- 
> David Jones
> NGL Connection
> 307-288-5491 ext 702
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Re: [WISPA] What would you use a drone for?

[Walter W. Stumpf Jr.]

I would like to find a drone that;

A. Lasts longer than 5-10 minutes
B. Records what it is seeing
C. Transmits what it is seeing to my phone
D. Doesn't cost more than my house, preferably in the $50 range.  I went to
look at smile.amazon.com and there literately over 1000 in the $25 to 100
price range:(

Any suggestions?

Walter



On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 12:58 PM, David Jones 
wrote:

> Good day, I am trying to list out all the uses for a drone to justify
> buying one.
>
> Here are a few that I have come up with:
>
> 1. New tower site surveys. we are running into areas that our standard 45'
> tower will not cut it. (I know its short but hey we have elevation changes
> from 7200' to 8600' in less than 3 miles.) a drone could be used to
> determine how high a tower needs to be to get the best coverage.
>
> 2. Tower maintenance. We have a water tower that we are on that is no
> longer in use nor maintained. The top ladder is about to fall off and we
> need to get it repaired. A drone can take the needed pictures from the top
> to help us determine what parts/bolts/welder we need to fix it. That would
> save a trip with an 80' bucket truck so we only will need it once.
>
> What else can anyone think of for use of a drone? What would justify the
> cost to make it clearly a tool and not a toy?
>
> --
> David Jones
> NGL Connection
> 307-288-5491 ext 702 <(307)%20288-5491>
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[WISPA] What would you use a drone for?

[David Jones]

Good day, I am trying to list out all the uses for a drone to justify
buying one.

Here are a few that I have come up with:

1. New tower site surveys. we are running into areas that our standard 45'
tower will not cut it. (I know its short but hey we have elevation changes
from 7200' to 8600' in less than 3 miles.) a drone could be used to
determine how high a tower needs to be to get the best coverage.

2. Tower maintenance. We have a water tower that we are on that is no
longer in use nor maintained. The top ladder is about to fall off and we
need to get it repaired. A drone can take the needed pictures from the top
to help us determine what parts/bolts/welder we need to fix it. That would
save a trip with an 80' bucket truck so we only will need it once.

What else can anyone think of for use of a drone? What would justify the
cost to make it clearly a tool and not a toy?

-- 
David Jones
NGL Connection
307-288-5491 ext 702
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