RE: [WISPA] Looking fora new system
With nstream you could do both > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking fora new system > > If you are going to go that route and spend that much money (you'll need new > cpe too it sounds like) I'd drop the 2.4 gig stuff and go with a new 5 gig > system. Keep what you've got up on the tower and put the new gear up in > addition to what you have. Then move people off as devices fail. > > It'll save you a LOT of time and trouble to go that way. > > My 5 gig system is still Trango. I'll look at the new Airaya and SB gear as > we get some more time on them. > > laters, > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Blair Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 11:35 AM > Subject: [WISPA] Looking fora new system > > > > Hi all, > > > > Well, with YDI/Terrorbeam closing the Karlnet office in Ohio, I think I > > need to find a replacement for TurboCell systems.. > > > > My requirements for a replacement . > > > > 1) must use the same 2.4GHz antennas and amps I currently have installed. > > > > 2) compatible with many different boards for CPE and AP > > > > 3) polling or token based. No hidden node issues. > > > > 4) tolerant of a wide spread in snr levels between clients. > > > > 4) low cost (yeah, right!) > > > > I am not interested in 'all in one systems' where I have no ability to > > mix n' match antenna's and such. > > > > So far, I have heard a little about Netstream, (from MikroTik), and > > about StarOS. > > > > Netstream seems to offer polling and long range PtMP. However, having > > to get new licenses every year is annoying. > > > > StarOS offers up to 10 non over lapping channels in the 2.4GHz band. > > This could be useful in cleaning up interference issues at some towers. > > > > I lean toward Netstream because I have had good luck with my Mikrotik > > routers that are currently in service, but I am more interested in > > finding something that will last. I am also concerned about being left > > high and dry as ydi/terabeam just did to me and many others. > > > > Anyone out there using one or both of these systems? How about another > > system meeting these requirements that I don't know about? > > > > Thoughts? > > > > -- > > Blair Davis > > > > AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 > > > > West Michigan Wireless ISP > > 269-686-8648 > > > > A division of: > > Camp Communication Services, INC > > > > > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 07/28/2005 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 07/28/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Looking fora new system
(could do both 2.4ghz and 5.xghz) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking fora new system > > If you are going to go that route and spend that much money (you'll need new > cpe too it sounds like) I'd drop the 2.4 gig stuff and go with a new 5 gig > system. Keep what you've got up on the tower and put the new gear up in > addition to what you have. Then move people off as devices fail. > > It'll save you a LOT of time and trouble to go that way. > > My 5 gig system is still Trango. I'll look at the new Airaya and SB gear as > we get some more time on them. > > laters, > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Blair Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 11:35 AM > Subject: [WISPA] Looking fora new system > > > > Hi all, > > > > Well, with YDI/Terrorbeam closing the Karlnet office in Ohio, I think I > > need to find a replacement for TurboCell systems.. > > > > My requirements for a replacement . > > > > 1) must use the same 2.4GHz antennas and amps I currently have installed. > > > > 2) compatible with many different boards for CPE and AP > > > > 3) polling or token based. No hidden node issues. > > > > 4) tolerant of a wide spread in snr levels between clients. > > > > 4) low cost (yeah, right!) > > > > I am not interested in 'all in one systems' where I have no ability to > > mix n' match antenna's and such. > > > > So far, I have heard a little about Netstream, (from MikroTik), and > > about StarOS. > > > > Netstream seems to offer polling and long range PtMP. However, having > > to get new licenses every year is annoying. > > > > StarOS offers up to 10 non over lapping channels in the 2.4GHz band. > > This could be useful in cleaning up interference issues at some towers. > > > > I lean toward Netstream because I have had good luck with my Mikrotik > > routers that are currently in service, but I am more interested in > > finding something that will last. I am also concerned about being left > > high and dry as ydi/terabeam just did to me and many others. > > > > Anyone out there using one or both of these systems? How about another > > system meeting these requirements that I don't know about? > > > > Thoughts? > > > > -- > > Blair Davis > > > > AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 > > > > West Michigan Wireless ISP > > 269-686-8648 > > > > A division of: > > Camp Communication Services, INC > > > > > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 07/28/2005 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 07/28/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Grounding questions/help
I have several towers, all of which except for 1 never have any issues, however, this 1 tower (we are the only tenant) seems to have a problem each year during lightning season... Last night it took a hit, although it appears it came through the electrical and not the tower, but I’m not sure, the UPS was off, I reset it and it came back online --- but the POE injector did NOT, it was completely shot. Replaced the POE unit and the wireless gear came online, but started rebooting after about 15minutes (although it didn't this before, I just changed the POE from a 12v to 15v) tried a 24v POE, and the radio was still rebooting... Called the tower climber.. Anyways I looked over the ground and the tower appears to 3 ground rod off each tower leg and then the building has a separate ground rod - (unless its connected underground) Any thoughts? Thanks Dan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 07/28/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Grounding questions/help
Thanks - I will do that > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 4:57 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grounding questions/help > > Run one #6 solid copper ground wire between all ground rods > and tie them all together. Make sure the electrical supply > ground rod is bonded to this. I would also suggest that you > run a monitor test of the voltage at the location over time. > Scriv > > > > Dan Metcalf wrote: > > >I have several towers, all of which except for 1 never have > any issues, > >however, this 1 tower (we are the only tenant) seems to have > a problem > >each year during lightning season... > > > >Last night it took a hit, although it appears it came through the > >electrical and not the tower, but I’m not sure, the UPS was off, I > >reset it and it came back online --- but the POE injector > did NOT, it was completely shot. > > > >Replaced the POE unit and the wireless gear came online, but started > >rebooting after about 15minutes (although it didn't this > before, I just > >changed the POE from a 12v to 15v) tried a 24v POE, and the > radio was > >still rebooting... Called the tower climber.. > > > >Anyways I looked over the ground and the tower appears to 3 > ground rod > >off each tower leg and then the building has a separate ground rod - > >(unless its connected underground) > > > >Any thoughts? > > > >Thanks > > > >Dan > > > > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: > 07/28/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 07/28/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Grounding questions/help
Yeah that’s what I'm thinking, basically my cat5 wire and POE system is the bond between the 2 separate grounds :-(... Is there an easy/cheap way to test of the grounds are connected underground? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 5:06 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grounding questions/help > > Unless all of your grounds are bonded together - You stand > the risk of causing your own nightmares due to the difference > in potential across the 2 different grounding systems. Make > sure everything is bonded together as 1 single grounding system. > > JohnnyO > > - Original Message - > From: "Dan Metcalf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:24 PM > Subject: [WISPA] Grounding questions/help > > > I have several towers, all of which except for 1 never have > any issues, > however, > this 1 tower (we are the only tenant) seems to have a problem > each year > during > lightning season... > > Last night it took a hit, although it appears it came through > the electrical > and > not the tower, but I’m not sure, the UPS was off, I reset it > and it came > back > online --- but the POE injector did NOT, it was completely shot. > > Replaced the POE unit and the wireless gear came online, but started > rebooting > after about 15minutes (although it didn't this before, I just > changed the > POE > from a 12v to 15v) tried a 24v POE, and the radio was still > rebooting... > Called > the tower climber.. > > Anyways I looked over the ground and the tower appears to 3 > ground rod off > each > tower leg and then the building has a separate ground rod - > (unless its > connected underground) > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks > > Dan > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: > 07/28/2005 > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: > 07/28/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 07/28/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: Fw: [WISPA] Grounding questions/help
I replaced just the SBC (kn-205 board) and all is well for now, the radio themselves are okay. So I'm not sure that the current came in through the antenna, but rather some how came across the cat5, connecting the tower ground to the AC ground (if indeed they are separate grounds) I will find out tomorrow and hopefully resolve the issue before I loose any more equipment Dan > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. > Schafer (509) 982-2181 > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:14 PM > To: Jeff Liebermann > Cc: wireless@wispa.org > Subject: Re: Fw: [WISPA] Grounding questions/help > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jeff Liebermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 5:06 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: [WISPA] Grounding questions/help > > > > On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 04:09:05PM -0700, Marlon K. Schafer > (509) 982-2181 > > wrote: > >> can you help Dan out? > > > > What do you think I am? Some kind of answer factory? > > You're suppose to be the expert on this wireless stuff. > > roflol > > I learned from you remember! > > > > >> Replaced the POE unit and the wireless gear came online, > but started > >> rebooting > >> after about 15minutes (although it didn't this before, I > just changed the > >> POE > >> from a 12v to 15v) tried a 24v POE, and the radio was > still rebooting... > >> Called > >> the tower climber.. > > > > Easy. Your radio on the tower is toast. It got clobbered > > by the same lightning bolt that ate your POE box. Lightning > > doesn't always totally destroy what it hits. Sometimes, only > > sensitive parts of the circuitry gets zapped. My guess is > > something died in the radio which is causing the reboots. > > It might also be something simple like the terminating end > > of the POE circuit, but my guess is that radio is the problem > > since it seems to sorta work until it reboots. > > Is it also possible that not having the tower grounded to the > AC is making > this worse? > > > > > > > -- > > # Jeff Liebermann Liebermann Design 150 Felker St #D > Santa Cruz CA > > 95060 > > # 831-336-2558 (voice) callto://JeffLiebermann (skype) > > # http://www.LearnByDestroying.comAE6KS > > # [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: > 07/28/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 07/28/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Looking fora new system
Will it be TC compatible on the cpe side? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:29 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Looking fora new system > > Blair > > - We are working on a software upgrade to our RWO product line which will have > polling. > - The cost is from $139.95 to $289.95 depending on models. > - We have N connected versions. > - We are coming out with a 400mW 5Ghz RWO CPE and Base in the next 1-2 weeks > which will have polling. > > Keep and eye on the website :) > > Sincerely, Tony Morella > Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider > Office: 207-244-9068 Fax: 207-433-1008 > http://www.demarctech.com > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Blair Davis > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:36 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Looking fora new system > > Hi all, > > Well, with YDI/Terrorbeam closing the Karlnet office in Ohio, I think I need > to find a replacement for TurboCell systems.. > > My requirements for a replacement . > > 1) must use the same 2.4GHz antennas and amps I currently have installed. > > 2) compatible with many different boards for CPE and AP > > 3) polling or token based. No hidden node issues. > > 4) tolerant of a wide spread in snr levels between clients. > > 4) low cost (yeah, right!) > > I am not interested in 'all in one systems' where I have no ability to mix n' > match antenna's and such. > > So far, I have heard a little about Netstream, (from MikroTik), and about > StarOS. > > Netstream seems to offer polling and long range PtMP. However, having to get > new licenses every year is annoying. > > StarOS offers up to 10 non over lapping channels in the 2.4GHz band. > This could be useful in cleaning up interference issues at some towers. > > I lean toward Netstream because I have had good luck with my Mikrotik routers > that are currently in service, but I am more > interested in finding something that will last. I am also concerned about > being left high and dry as ydi/terabeam just did to me > and many others. > > Anyone out there using one or both of these systems? How about another system > meeting these requirements that I don't know about? > > Thoughts? > > -- > Blair Davis > > AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 > > West Michigan Wireless ISP > 269-686-8648 > > A division of: > Camp Communication Services, INC > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 07/28/2005 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 07/28/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] more grounding related questions
I am installing some new rb532's w/ shielded cat5, I have a couple of options, using shielded connectors all the way to the rb532 connector itself, this would connect the rb532 ground to the cat5 sheild and tower ground but I'm wondering if I should only ground it at the antenna itself on the tower and not on the ground in fear of a ground loop? Any thoughts, how folks ground/connecting the shielded cat5? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.0/63 - Release Date: 08/03/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] anyone have the following...
Do you have a picture of this radio? Does it have 1 or 2 antenna connectors? Is it hermesI or hermesII From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 12:43 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] anyone have the following... http://www.demarctech.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=169&osCsid=a5da77ed9858bf632d691e2d970cb6c8 Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-244-9068 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 1:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] anyone have the following... I'm looking for a couple of YDI sapphire, orinoco, or clone pc cards. Thanks North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.8/71 - Release Date: 08/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.8/71 - Release Date: 08/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Taking on an investor?
Any wisp's ever take on an investor? I'm looking to expand and wondering how I should handle a potential investor who is willing to provide some serious capitol? Thanks Dan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 08/19/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 2 backhauls, STP question
I have a tower, that has 2 backhaul's (1 karlnet, 1 MT), both support STP, if I connect both backhauls into the dump layer 2 switch I pretty sure I would get a bridge loop But I'm wondering if I enable STP on the karlnet and MT bridge's if that will prevent the bridge and via STP priority provide sometype of failover if one of the backhaul goes down? Any thoughts? Thanks Dan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 08/19/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] In the News.
Rick, No comment? Dan > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Rick Harnish > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 5:20 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: RE: [WISPA] In the News. > > NO COMMENT! :P It is not worth my time. > > Rick Harnish > OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Dawn > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 3:34 PM > To: WISPA General List; isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com > Subject: [WISPA] In the News. > > All, > > I thought this was pretty interesting when I read it. > > http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_vie > w&newsId=20050829005365&newsLang=en > > Thanks, > Dawn > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 08/26/2005 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 08/26/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] In the News.
You can't go wrong w/ that advice > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Rick Harnish > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 5:32 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: RE: [WISPA] In the News. > > If you can't say anything nice, don't say it at all! At least that's what > my mama always told me :D > > Rick Harnish > President > OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. > 260-827-2482 Office > 260-307-4000 Cell > 260-918-4340 VoIP > www.oibw.net > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Dan Metcalf > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 4:28 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: RE: [WISPA] In the News. > > Rick, > > No comment? > > Dan > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf > > Of Rick Harnish > > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 5:20 PM > > To: 'WISPA General List' > > Subject: RE: [WISPA] In the News. > > > > NO COMMENT! :P It is not worth my time. > > > > Rick Harnish > > OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Dawn > > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 3:34 PM > > To: WISPA General List; isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com > > Subject: [WISPA] In the News. > > > > All, > > > > I thought this was pretty interesting when I read it. > > > > > http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_vie > > w&newsId=20050829005365&newsLang=en > > > > Thanks, > > Dawn > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 08/26/2005 > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 08/26/2005 > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 08/26/2005 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 08/26/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] In the News.
Its tough to be a karlnet operator these days, the borg has stopped production on existing hardware and forcing operators to use different hardware (which is a lot more expensive and frankly not worth it) ie: kn-250 board - mini-pci replacement for the kn-205 pcmcia, old price $160 - new boards are $300 and the software for the mini-pci is $700 Dan > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of John Scrivner > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 5:36 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] In the News. > > Rick doesn't like Torinokarlproxibeamasaurus right now. I am guessing he > is not alone. > :-) > Scriv > > > Dan Metcalf wrote: > > >Rick, > > > >No comment? > > > >Dan > > > > > > > > > > > >>-Original Message- > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf > >>Of Rick Harnish > >>Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 5:20 PM > >>To: 'WISPA General List' > >>Subject: RE: [WISPA] In the News. > >> > >>NO COMMENT! :P It is not worth my time. > >> > >>Rick Harnish > >>OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless > >> > >>-Original Message- > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >>Behalf Of Dawn > >>Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 3:34 PM > >>To: WISPA General List; isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com > >>Subject: [WISPA] In the News. > >> > >>All, > >> > >>I thought this was pretty interesting when I read it. > >> > >>http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_vie > >>w&newsId=20050829005365&newsLang=en > >> > >>Thanks, > >>Dawn > >>-- > >>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >>-- > >>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> > >>-- > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >>Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 08/26/2005 > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 08/26/2005 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 08/26/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up
I will add a link on my website as well and post it on the local forums > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of George > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 10:48 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up > > Mac Dearman wrote: > > Johnny, > > > > You are mistaken - - it is not 1 man and its not one shelter. It is 3 > > Parishes full of evacuees and 11 shelters. (estimated 1100 evacuees) > > > > Mac do you have an address for people to send money to? > Like the name of the church, address phone number etc. > > I would put a message on my web site for people to donate directly to. > > I suppose anyone can just give to the Red Cross, etc. But I'm sure cash > sent directly to your church would be the most efficient way to donate. > > George > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/88 - Release Date: 09/01/2005 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/88 - Release Date: 09/01/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] porno stopper
I would highly suggest dans guardian, along w/ squidguard - I have been using this solution for some time, and dans guardian blocks via content and squidguard blocks via a blacklist Using both provides very good filtering, you can't even "search" google for anything "dirty" as dan sguardian blocks it Dan > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Ron Wallace > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 8:14 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] porno stopper > > Tom, > Have you tried these devices. What is your evaluation of the > Belkin Pre-N Router? > > Ron Wallace > > Original message > >Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:26:53 -0400 > >From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] porno stopper > >To: "WISPA General List" > > > >The near Belkin pre-N Routers have content control > subscription options > >built-in. > > > >Tom DeReggi > >RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > > > >IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > >- Original Message - > >From: "Eric Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "WISPA General List" > >Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:34 AM > >Subject: RE: [WISPA] porno stopper > > > > > >Why not bring this to the WISP forum for members instead of > being private, I > >am sure others would be interested. > > > >Eric > > > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of David Weddell > >Sent: Mon 9/12/2005 12:14 AM > >To: 'WISPA General List' > >Subject: RE: [WISPA] porno stopper > > > > > > > >We have a solution for preventing questionable content onto > your network. It > >is both a plug in or a server solution. Contact me offlist > and I can hook > >you up with the details. > > > >Regards, > > > >David Weddell > > > >Director of Sales > > > > > > > >260 273 2662 Cell > > > >260 827 2551 Office > > > >800 363 4881 Ext 2551 Toll Free > > > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >www.onlyinternet.net > > > >www.oibw.net > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher > >Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 10:27 PM > >To: WISPA General List > >Subject: [WISPA] porno stopper > > > >I just got this message from a sub. > > > > > >>"Do you also have any software that I can install the > prevents my children > >(and me for that matter) from accessing questionable > content?" > >> > >> > > > > > >Who recommends what and where can I get it? > > > >Brian > >-- > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > >-- > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > >- > --- > > > > > >> -- > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > > > > > >- > --- > > > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release > Date: 9/10/2005 > > > >-- > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > Ron Wallace > Hahnron, Inc. > 220 S. Jackson St. > Addison, MI 49220 > > Phone: (517) 547-8410 > Mobile: (517) 605-4542 > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.0/103 - Release Date: 09/15/2005 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 09/16/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Installer looking for work in Florida
My Installation Manager had to move to Florida for personal reasons and is looking for work, has experience installing canopy, trango, karlnet (physical install and aiming), can make cat5 cables, and can tower climb, has years of experience running cat5/cable, also managed a crew with 2 junior guys. If you need somebody, email me and I"ll give you his contact # Thanks Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 09/23/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] rooftop leasing?
Aftering spending almost 8 weeks trying to get a lease with a rooftop provider, they come back at us with a request for a business plan and financial statement before going forward --- Thoughts? Has anybody had a request like this before? We haven't Thanks Dan > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Tony Weasler > Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 3:43 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent - Level3 > > On 10/6/2005 1:03 PM, Tom DeReggi created: > >> To set the record straight, no peering agreements were violated > >> between L3 and Cogent. > > > > I heard otherwise, however I can't prove that. > > Cogent on their own web site said that agreements were not violated: > > "Level 3 terminated its peering with Cogent without cause (as > permitted under its peering agreement with Cogent) even though both > Cogent and Level 3 remained in full compliance with the previously > existing interconnection agreement." > http://status.cogentco.com/ > > >> There is also no confirmed evidence that L3 is > >> blocking Cogent traffic through Cogent's Verio transit (which Cogent > >> pays $$ for.) > > > > There was evidence. I wish I saved my traceroutes yesterday. > > To make more clear, Cogent is our backbone. > > When going to www.logmein.com, the last successfull hop was a peer > > labelled similar to verio.cogentco.com, meaning we crossed over to > > Verio's side. (the actual name was more meaningful). Now today, the > > traffic destined for that site stops cold at the first hop from our > > network, meaning it does not get routes from Level3 on where to send the > > data, once we enter Cogent's network. Unless you are referring that > > Cogent is blocking any advertised route info from Level3, which is > > highly unlikely. If Level3 was allowing our IPs to go through Verio's > > link, we would receive routes to route our packets in that direction > > across Cogent's network, and packets would travel further into Cogent's > > network (such as to the Verio link). If Cogent blocked traffic to Verio, > > it would most likely block it at the peer, not at the entry to Cogent's > > network from us as their client. > > This isn't evidence of blocking on L3's side. It could be because > Cogent only purchases transit to certain prefixes and L3 isn't one of > them (and Verio is filtering the announcements.) It could be because > Cogent internally uses traffic engineering to prevent L3 traffic from > reaching them over their Verio transit circuits. One of the two > scenarios is likely given their peering arrangement with L3. I didn't > see any table entries on the L3 San Diego looking glass for AS174. I > saw only one route on their Denver looking glass through AS7018. Does > that mean that L3 is filtering or that Cogent's announcements aren't > reaching L3 for other reasons? The former is probably correct, but > that's not something that can be easily demonstrated. I couldn't find > a looking glass in AS174 which would allow me to see Cogent's tables > from the inside. Cogent does appear to be announcing their Verio link > to other peers, however. I see direct announcements for AS174 and an > announcement for Sprint->Verio->Cogent, but not an AT&T->Cogent path. > > I think that both carriers are at fault. Both companies should have > resolved this before it came to reducing connectivity for their > customers. They both should be held accountable by their customers. I > replied to your original post, Tom, because Cogent made a public > statement which directly contradicted yours and I thought that people > on the list should have a more complete story [1]. You could be > entirely correct about there having been a contract violation. I am > confident that a considerable amount of money will be wasted trying to > determine that. > > I fear that because of the the popularity of this issue it will reach > the ears of the less clueful xEOs at carrier organizations and that > the current SFI structure could be at risk of being 're-evaluated' in > favor of paid interconnection. Most of the scenarios that I can think > of involving compensation for interconnection lead to higher wholesale > prices of bandwidth and additional overall system complexity. > > > >> It appears that Cogent is unwilling to use this route > >> because it would force them to pay (Verio) per Mb/s for the > >> information sent to/from L3's network. The de-peering was consistent > >> with the peering agreement between L3 and Cogent according to > >> http://status.cogentco.com/ > > > > It stated that, but it is not in actuallity. > > So why would Cogent lie about something that makes them look bad on > their own public web site? Many SFI contracts allow for termination > without cause given enough notice and it is reasonable to assume that > this one included that type of language. According to conjecture on > NANOG, Cogent was given notice >40 days before the d
RE: [WISPA] rooftop leasing?
Did you do an NDA? What type of financial documents did provide? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Matt Liotta > Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 5:16 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] rooftop leasing? > > We have certainly had landlords question us financially, but none have > ever asked for a business plan. > > -Matt > > Dan Metcalf wrote: > > >Aftering spending almost 8 weeks trying to get a lease with a rooftop > provider, > >they come back at us with a request for a business plan and financial > statement > >before going forward --- > > > >Thoughts? Has anybody had a request like this before? We haven't > > > >Thanks > > > >Dan > > > > > > > > > >>-Original Message- > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf > >>Of Tony Weasler > >>Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 3:43 PM > >>To: WISPA General List > >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent - Level3 > >> > >>On 10/6/2005 1:03 PM, Tom DeReggi created: > >> > >> > >>>>To set the record straight, no peering agreements were violated > >>>>between L3 and Cogent. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>I heard otherwise, however I can't prove that. > >>> > >>> > >>Cogent on their own web site said that agreements were not violated: > >> > >>"Level 3 terminated its peering with Cogent without cause (as > >>permitted under its peering agreement with Cogent) even though both > >>Cogent and Level 3 remained in full compliance with the previously > >>existing interconnection agreement." > >>http://status.cogentco.com/ > >> > >> > >> > >>>>There is also no confirmed evidence that L3 is > >>>>blocking Cogent traffic through Cogent's Verio transit (which Cogent > >>>>pays $$ for.) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>There was evidence. I wish I saved my traceroutes yesterday. > >>>To make more clear, Cogent is our backbone. > >>>When going to www.logmein.com, the last successfull hop was a peer > >>>labelled similar to verio.cogentco.com, meaning we crossed over to > >>>Verio's side. (the actual name was more meaningful). Now today, the > >>>traffic destined for that site stops cold at the first hop from our > >>>network, meaning it does not get routes from Level3 on where to send the > >>>data, once we enter Cogent's network. Unless you are referring that > >>>Cogent is blocking any advertised route info from Level3, which is > >>>highly unlikely. If Level3 was allowing our IPs to go through Verio's > >>>link, we would receive routes to route our packets in that direction > >>>across Cogent's network, and packets would travel further into Cogent's > >>>network (such as to the Verio link). If Cogent blocked traffic to Verio, > >>>it would most likely block it at the peer, not at the entry to Cogent's > >>>network from us as their client. > >>> > >>> > >>This isn't evidence of blocking on L3's side. It could be because > >>Cogent only purchases transit to certain prefixes and L3 isn't one of > >>them (and Verio is filtering the announcements.) It could be because > >>Cogent internally uses traffic engineering to prevent L3 traffic from > >>reaching them over their Verio transit circuits. One of the two > >>scenarios is likely given their peering arrangement with L3. I didn't > >>see any table entries on the L3 San Diego looking glass for AS174. I > >>saw only one route on their Denver looking glass through AS7018. Does > >>that mean that L3 is filtering or that Cogent's announcements aren't > >>reaching L3 for other reasons? The former is probably correct, but > >>that's not something that can be easily demonstrated. I couldn't find > >>a looking glass in AS174 which would allow me to see Cogent's tables > >>from the inside. Cogent does appear to be announcing their Verio link > >>to other peers, however. I see direct announcements for AS174 and an > >>announcement for Sprint->Verio->Cogent, but not an AT&T->Cogent path. > >> > >>I think that both carriers are at fault. Both companies should have > >>resolved this before it came to reducing c
RE: [WISPA] Atheros speed WRAP vs RB532
I'm running almost the same link at 8 miles although on the rb532 - signal is about -77 dbm Dan > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:59 PM > To: Lonnie Nunweiler; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Atheros speed WRAP vs RB532 > > Oops... > > I'm using 5.3G with 19 dbi antenna, estimating 2 db in cable loss, to meet > legal 30db limit. At a half mile, we calculated it to be -54db, and at 1/4 > mile -48. > > However, I was reading the power in station server wrong, I was reading the > Ack strength instead of Data strength which were about 10 db different. Any > reason for that? The data signal strength was actually reading about -60 db. > > So yes, you are right, for a 1/4 mile there is about an unaccounted for 12 > db loss, unless I don't have the distance right. I do have set at 1 mile in > driver. > > However, low signal doesn't effect speed, my tech has a second radio on it > now, at -53 db, and still maxes out at 12mbps. I confirmed that CPU usage > hits about 95% when testing, and connection tracking is on. So appears to > be CPU limited. > > Anyone know how much loss to expect out of the PacWireless Rootenna pigtails > (ufl to SMA) and Wisp-router's 6Ghz certified 5" Ufl to N pigtails? > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:59 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Atheros speed WRAP vs RB532 > > > 300 yards with LOS with a signal of -70 dB? That sure seems low. You > either have another system real close or you have severe trouble with > antenna or cabling. A Superpass 21 dB at that range would give you > -40 dB or better signals, assuming proper cabling. > > Did you set the distance to a couple of miles? I always figure out > the exact number and add 2 or 3 to it. You can safely be over but to > be under limits throughput severely. > > Lonnie > > > > On 10/10/05, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just installed a link using CM9, Station Server, WRAP board, about 300 > > yards away LOS, with only a single client so far on AP to SU mode. The > > radios associated at 54 mbps, and about -70 db, with a quality of 24/29. > > All speed enhancement features enable, and encryption turned off. > > > > Using Station server throughput test, testing from AP, the RX was 13.6 > > mbps, > > and the TX was 9.1 mbps. > > > > I thought that was odd, because I thought the TX would be faster. (AP to > > SU) > > > > This supported my estimates that 54 mbps Atheros card's top real > > throughput > > (for 54 mbps) was about 14 mbps, in a best case scenario. Then through > > in > > longer range links, interference, hidden node (or CTS/RTS to cure), > > retransmissions, heavy use links, and before you know real throughput can > > be > > much less than 10 mbps. Asumming of course Turbo Mode won't be used to > > hog > > up channels. > > > > My tech question is... Is this being limited by the Atheros chipset, or > > the > > WRAP motherboard? If using the Mikrotik RB532 board with higher processing > > speed, can a single Atheros card transfer at a higher rate? > > > > For those interested > > > > My business decission question is: > > > > 1) If Atheros can't go higher than 10 mbps in real world PtMP and... > > 2) Trango has fixed its short range packet loss problem (which they have) > > 3) Trango has new low pricing on Fox-D2 CPE (dropped $100 or so) > > 4) Trango has better testing tools > > 5) Trango avoids all the problems of 802.11 standard and home brew that > > cost > > ISPs aggrevations (accept large packets 1600b, pre-assembles, consistent > > availabilty, security, better remote management, ARQ, etc), > > > > What reason would there be to use anything but Trango broadband, even for > > small community projects? > > > > 802.11 Atheros gives you... > > > > 1) Mesh designs > > 2) Relay radio designs, multiple antennas/links per single unit, with only > > a > > $50 cost per radio card added. > > 3) HotSpot, compatible with laptops built-in config. > > 4) Built in VLAN switch, when used with Mikrotik RB532&daughter card. > > 5) OMNI support, when 6 sector design not needed. > > 6) One radio to stock, that supports ALL Freqs, for easy on the fly > > adaptabilty (pending antenna swap). > > > > #2 was good to reduce roof top colocation costs, by not needing to discuss > > the need to install two radios with a landlord for roof top approval. > > > > My recent interest, was for #4 and #5 for a small multi-building / > > multi-tenant complex. > > I reduce AP costs, by using only one AP w/ OMNI (OK for short range), > > apposed to Trango sector model. In a worse case scenario, where a Trango > > 60 > > degree, would cover all MTUs based on edge of complex placement, Mikrotik > > 802.11 would still save
