[WISPA] rooftop leasing?
Aftering spending almost 8 weeks trying to get a lease with a rooftop provider, they come back at us with a request for a business plan and financial statement before going forward --- Thoughts? Has anybody had a request like this before? We haven't Thanks Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Weasler Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 3:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent - Level3 On 10/6/2005 1:03 PM, Tom DeReggi created: To set the record straight, no peering agreements were violated between L3 and Cogent. I heard otherwise, however I can't prove that. Cogent on their own web site said that agreements were not violated: Level 3 terminated its peering with Cogent without cause (as permitted under its peering agreement with Cogent) even though both Cogent and Level 3 remained in full compliance with the previously existing interconnection agreement. http://status.cogentco.com/ There is also no confirmed evidence that L3 is blocking Cogent traffic through Cogent's Verio transit (which Cogent pays $$ for.) There was evidence. I wish I saved my traceroutes yesterday. To make more clear, Cogent is our backbone. When going to www.logmein.com, the last successfull hop was a peer labelled similar to verio.cogentco.com, meaning we crossed over to Verio's side. (the actual name was more meaningful). Now today, the traffic destined for that site stops cold at the first hop from our network, meaning it does not get routes from Level3 on where to send the data, once we enter Cogent's network. Unless you are referring that Cogent is blocking any advertised route info from Level3, which is highly unlikely. If Level3 was allowing our IPs to go through Verio's link, we would receive routes to route our packets in that direction across Cogent's network, and packets would travel further into Cogent's network (such as to the Verio link). If Cogent blocked traffic to Verio, it would most likely block it at the peer, not at the entry to Cogent's network from us as their client. This isn't evidence of blocking on L3's side. It could be because Cogent only purchases transit to certain prefixes and L3 isn't one of them (and Verio is filtering the announcements.) It could be because Cogent internally uses traffic engineering to prevent L3 traffic from reaching them over their Verio transit circuits. One of the two scenarios is likely given their peering arrangement with L3. I didn't see any table entries on the L3 San Diego looking glass for AS174. I saw only one route on their Denver looking glass through AS7018. Does that mean that L3 is filtering or that Cogent's announcements aren't reaching L3 for other reasons? The former is probably correct, but that's not something that can be easily demonstrated. I couldn't find a looking glass in AS174 which would allow me to see Cogent's tables from the inside. Cogent does appear to be announcing their Verio link to other peers, however. I see direct announcements for AS174 and an announcement for Sprint-Verio-Cogent, but not an ATT-Cogent path. I think that both carriers are at fault. Both companies should have resolved this before it came to reducing connectivity for their customers. They both should be held accountable by their customers. I replied to your original post, Tom, because Cogent made a public statement which directly contradicted yours and I thought that people on the list should have a more complete story [1]. You could be entirely correct about there having been a contract violation. I am confident that a considerable amount of money will be wasted trying to determine that. I fear that because of the the popularity of this issue it will reach the ears of the less clueful xEOs at carrier organizations and that the current SFI structure could be at risk of being 're-evaluated' in favor of paid interconnection. Most of the scenarios that I can think of involving compensation for interconnection lead to higher wholesale prices of bandwidth and additional overall system complexity. It appears that Cogent is unwilling to use this route because it would force them to pay (Verio) per Mb/s for the information sent to/from L3's network. The de-peering was consistent with the peering agreement between L3 and Cogent according to http://status.cogentco.com/ It stated that, but it is not in actuallity. So why would Cogent lie about something that makes them look bad on their own public web site? Many SFI contracts allow for termination without cause given enough notice and it is reasonable to assume that this one included that type of language. According to conjecture on NANOG, Cogent was given notice 40 days before the disconnect. In the absence of more reliable information I don't have any reason to assume otherwise. Current NANOG consensus
RE: [WISPA] porno stopper
I would highly suggest dans guardian, along w/ squidguard - I have been using this solution for some time, and dans guardian blocks via content and squidguard blocks via a blacklist Using both provides very good filtering, you can't even search google for anything dirty as dan sguardian blocks it Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wallace Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 8:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] porno stopper Tom, Have you tried these devices. What is your evaluation of the Belkin Pre-N Router? Ron Wallace Original message Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:26:53 -0400 From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] porno stopper To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org The near Belkin pre-N Routers have content control subscription options built-in. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Eric Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] porno stopper Why not bring this to the WISP forum for members instead of being private, I am sure others would be interested. Eric From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of David Weddell Sent: Mon 9/12/2005 12:14 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] porno stopper We have a solution for preventing questionable content onto your network. It is both a plug in or a server solution. Contact me offlist and I can hook you up with the details. Regards, David Weddell Director of Sales 260 273 2662 Cell 260 827 2551 Office 800 363 4881 Ext 2551 Toll Free [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.onlyinternet.net www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 10:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] porno stopper I just got this message from a sub. Do you also have any software that I can install the prevents my children (and me for that matter) from accessing questionable content? Who recommends what and where can I get it? Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson St. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517) 547-8410 Mobile: (517) 605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.0/103 - Release Date: 09/15/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 09/16/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up
I will add a link on my website as well and post it on the local forums -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up Mac Dearman wrote: Johnny, You are mistaken - - it is not 1 man and its not one shelter. It is 3 Parishes full of evacuees and 11 shelters. (estimated 1100 evacuees) Mac do you have an address for people to send money to? Like the name of the church, address phone number etc. I would put a message on my web site for people to donate directly to. I suppose anyone can just give to the Red Cross, etc. But I'm sure cash sent directly to your church would be the most efficient way to donate. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/88 - Release Date: 09/01/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/88 - Release Date: 09/01/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] In the News.
Its tough to be a karlnet operator these days, the borg has stopped production on existing hardware and forcing operators to use different hardware (which is a lot more expensive and frankly not worth it) ie: kn-250 board - mini-pci replacement for the kn-205 pcmcia, old price $160 - new boards are $300 and the software for the mini-pci is $700 Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 5:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] In the News. Rick doesn't like Torinokarlproxibeamasaurus right now. I am guessing he is not alone. :-) Scriv Dan Metcalf wrote: Rick, No comment? Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 5:20 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] In the News. NO COMMENT! :P It is not worth my time. Rick Harnish OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 3:34 PM To: WISPA General List; isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Subject: [WISPA] In the News. All, I thought this was pretty interesting when I read it. http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_vie wnewsId=20050829005365newsLang=en Thanks, Dawn -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 08/26/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 08/26/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 08/26/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] more grounding related questions
I am installing some new rb532's w/ shielded cat5, I have a couple of options, using shielded connectors all the way to the rb532 connector itself, this would connect the rb532 ground to the cat5 sheild and tower ground but I'm wondering if I should only ground it at the antenna itself on the tower and not on the ground in fear of a ground loop? Any thoughts, how folks ground/connecting the shielded cat5? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.0/63 - Release Date: 08/03/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Grounding questions/help
I have several towers, all of which except for 1 never have any issues, however, this 1 tower (we are the only tenant) seems to have a problem each year during lightning season... Last night it took a hit, although it appears it came through the electrical and not the tower, but I’m not sure, the UPS was off, I reset it and it came back online --- but the POE injector did NOT, it was completely shot. Replaced the POE unit and the wireless gear came online, but started rebooting after about 15minutes (although it didn't this before, I just changed the POE from a 12v to 15v) tried a 24v POE, and the radio was still rebooting... Called the tower climber.. Anyways I looked over the ground and the tower appears to 3 ground rod off each tower leg and then the building has a separate ground rod - (unless its connected underground) Any thoughts? Thanks Dan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 07/28/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Grounding questions/help
Yeah that’s what I'm thinking, basically my cat5 wire and POE system is the bond between the 2 separate grounds :-(... Is there an easy/cheap way to test of the grounds are connected underground? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 5:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grounding questions/help Unless all of your grounds are bonded together - You stand the risk of causing your own nightmares due to the difference in potential across the 2 different grounding systems. Make sure everything is bonded together as 1 single grounding system. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Dan Metcalf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:24 PM Subject: [WISPA] Grounding questions/help I have several towers, all of which except for 1 never have any issues, however, this 1 tower (we are the only tenant) seems to have a problem each year during lightning season... Last night it took a hit, although it appears it came through the electrical and not the tower, but I’m not sure, the UPS was off, I reset it and it came back online --- but the POE injector did NOT, it was completely shot. Replaced the POE unit and the wireless gear came online, but started rebooting after about 15minutes (although it didn't this before, I just changed the POE from a 12v to 15v) tried a 24v POE, and the radio was still rebooting... Called the tower climber.. Anyways I looked over the ground and the tower appears to 3 ground rod off each tower leg and then the building has a separate ground rod - (unless its connected underground) Any thoughts? Thanks Dan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 07/28/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 07/28/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 07/28/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
