Re: [WISPA] (no subject)
Hello Ron, I talked with the sales people in Vegas last year and at that time I think there biggest deployment was in Sidney. They sound great but the price was too high. If I remember right they were talking around 250k and up. Dave On 5/3/06 11:30 PM, "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ron Wallace wrote: >> To All, >> >> Any one know anthing about Navini Networks and all their claims? sounds >> too good to be true. >> >> Ron Wallace >> > > I think the techniques are great ideas, wish I could get some smart > antennas to work with an atheros card. > > George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Need good router
Hey guys, I could use some advice on routers, I need to do NAT and static out of the same router and I do not think Comp-USA stocks this kind of stuff. Besides paying 1500 or so for a Cisco can anyone guide me in a better and more cost efficient way? Dave -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPBONE] our first connection to another WISP
Hey Rick, Where in Michigan are you?Dave EllisWhisp LLC734-368-2285On Sep 17, 2005, at 5:24 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I'm in Michigan. If anyone wants to connect up... Rick Smith wrote: I'm in northern PA - Stroudsburg / Milford areas. Moving south, but not THAT far south :) Talk to Tim Wolfe - might be a player interested. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rudolph Worrell Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 9:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] [WISPBONE] our first connection to another WISP Rick, I am in VA and WV, we can talk since WV borders PA. -- Rudolph Worrell President Phone:(540)667-2672 Fax:(270)458-6431 www.wave2net.com Quoting Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'd be interested in starting a wispbone "node" in NJ / PA / NYC This is what we ALL should be doing - help all by helping one. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 5:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] [WISPBONE] our first connection to another WISP I thought the list might be interested to know that yesterday we turned up a 73 mile link to a new WISP starting up in Dalton, GA. This is our first connection to another WISP and while the 73 mile 45Mbps link took some planning and a good amount of leg work, it ended up quite well. Not only was the WISP in question able to benefit from our lower bandwidth and voice costs available in Atlanta, but we were able to get access to the local LEC for savings on voice termination in the area. Additionally, we now have the ability to sell wholesale routes in an expanded coverage area to our existing CLEC customers. Our next step is to help this WISP get going and introduce them to WISPA. If any other WISPs are in the southeast, let's look at connecting. We currently have plans to buildout into Tennessee and Alabama. Matt Liotta AirInfinite, Inc. www.AirInfinite.com 877-WiFi-NOW x803 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.25/102 - Release Date: 9/14/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: opportunity to help (wasRe: [WISPA] Hurricane?- worsethanmediasays)
Has anyone contacted FEMA with any offerings of wireless help for the camps? Does anyone know how to make this happen? Dave.. On Aug 31, 2005, at 11:00 AM, Mike Healy wrote: Not sure if anyone here has seen this yet: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/ 9063708/ They are going to evacuate about 25K people to the Houston Astrodome.. Mike Matthew Kish wrote: Hmm, maybe we can't really help too much in the afflicted areas...but what about the likely event the FEMA / Red Cross set up "Tent Cities" and temporary refuge camps? All of these people have to go somewhere and from what I have been reading, I don't think that they're going to lodge in a hotel somewhere for a few months. If anyone knows if there are any plans with Tent Cities...they're perfect candidates for some wireless help. Cheers, Matthew Kish Technical Marketing Teletronics International, Inc. 2 Choke Cherry Rd, Suite 100 Rockville, MD 20850 USA Tel: 301.309.8500 Ext.117 Fax: 301.309.8851 www.teletronics.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 8:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: opportunity to help (wasRe: [WISPA] Hurricane?- worsethanmediasays) There is no one to serve internet to in New Orleans but FEMA and the work crews and I am sure that the Feds have satellite set up. New Orleans has been issued orders for COMPLETE evacuation. They are moving all the folks out of the shelters to higher ground (refugee camps) North of New Orleans City limits. It will be many months before anyone will be allowed back into New Orleans. Water is still pouring into town as we speak due to levee breaches and is expected to have 9' of water downtown before it quits coming across the levee. A soup bowl cant hold but so much soup. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule
Hey Ron, What would be the cost to setup the link you talked about in this note? Is there more operators in our area to split the cost, could we find some local business or others to buy a block Of bandwith? J ust some thoughts Dave Ellis Whisp LLC -- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: WISPA General List Sent: Fri Aug 05 20:45:04 2005 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule I have some experience at 6, 11, 13, 18 & 23 GHz, more at 6, 11 &13. These were all carrier links never used a 6' dish unless it was a short path, less than 8 mi., usually 6 or less. WE built 40 dB fade margin into every path. tried to keep the radiated signal beem as narrow as possible, larger antennas, greater gain, they don't burn out. Downside is stiffer towers, very expensive. However, at 6 and 11 you can get 672 Mb/s and that's good. I don't have the money right now or I would have a two hop system to Southfield MI where a meg is around 100-125. My point, the licensed spectrum is excellent, no interference, and w/ enough fade margin it rocks. Lonnie and Marlon - I support everything they say, nearly. We need to use whatever we can get our hands on, that lifts our advantage. So keep it up guys. Original message >Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 17:03:55 -0700 >From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule >To: "WISPA General List" > >Last I heard a guy could get a Harris system (both ends, just radios) for a >shade under $20k. Might be a bit lower now as it's been a couple of years. >For a 45 meg system that's pretty high by today's standards. > >Let me say this again guys. We're talking LICENSED bands here. >Interference isn't an issue no matter what antennas etc. are used. If you >get interference on YOUR band you can make the other guy stop. It's just >that simple. > >I honestly see few down sides to this idea. > >I'd sure like to see more of the 300 or so companies here chime in. So far >it's looking like 2 to 1 that we do nothing. I must admit I'm more than a >bit shocked. > >Marlon >(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales >(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services >42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! >64.146.146.12 (net meeting) >www.odessaoffice.com/wireless >www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > >- Original Message - >From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "WISPA General List" >Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 1:46 PM >Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule > > >> Marlon and Lonnie, >> >> First Off, Lonnie I fully agree with your point that we should not suggest >> rules that discourage good design or make it to easy to do poor designs. >> >> However, saying we don't need more spectrum is rediculous, expecially in >> these urban areas with lots of competition. We need to gain access to >> every ounce of spectrum that we can. >> >> I FULLY agree with Marlon, that it would be a GREAT idea to find a way to >> have 6 Ghz more usable for us. It is factual that the 6 foot antenna >> requirement makes it near impossible for most WISPs to use the band cost >> effectively. I personally am effected by this and could have need for the >> band. However doing away with the large antenna rule all togeather I >> think would be a mistake. A PtP band with safety rules is advantageous. >> I'd suggest asking to modify the rules to the extent necessary to make it >> usable for us. For example, what if the min antenna size requirement was >> reduced down to a 3 ft dish? Thats still down to around 5 degrees, and >> pretty easy getting approval for a 3 ft dish. >> >> Marlon, whats the most cost effective 6 Ghz radios on the market today, >> excluding the antennas? Just so I understand the ball park we are talking >> about. When you say Licenced is still twice the cost, that doesn't mean >> much unless you identify wether you were talking about unlicenced redline >> or Trango :-) >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" >> >> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 11:50 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule >> >> >>>I think you guys are wrong on this. This is still a ptp band and it's >>>licensed. So interference issues can be dealt with. >>> >>> As for links that are not correctly aimed. Why in the world would we >>> want to give up on what could be a very useful rule change just because >>> some minority (probably a very small minority) will likely screw up? >>> >>> Think, instead about how nice it would be if the manufacturers could >>> modify today's relative
