Re: [WISPA] wall plate style AP
Ruckus has below which is similar to Extreme in looks, its about 280 USD list price. http://www.ruckuswireless.com/products/zoneflex-indoor/7025 below are from Taiwan between 60-80 USD depends on QTY you pick, all supports b,g,n http://www.handlink.com.tw/products_wap-001.php http://www.equaline.com.tw/product_cg2793.html# -- From: Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:28 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] wall plate style AP Has anyone used or deployed these style access points? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izV6UnNSEyU And are there any other brands that do this sort of thing? I would imagine that there has to be cheaper versions out there -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Fiber On Air (gigabit wireless)
Hello All, I have a requirement to provide gigabit between two sites, fiber is one option. but the distance is 2.6 KM. We have a reseller who came up with gigabit wireless solution. its from fsona. http://fsona.com/product.php?sec=1250m Have any body used the above or any similar products ? Any suggestions. Cannot do 5 ghz or licensed microwaves. Appreciate your comments and suggestions. Regards Aali WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Fiber On Air (gigabit wireless)
Hello All, I have a requirement to provide gigabit between two sites, fiber is one option. but the distance is 2.6 KM. We have a reseller who came up with gigabit wireless solution. its from fsona. http://fsona.com/product.php?sec=1250m Have any body used the above or any similar products ? Any suggestions. Cannot do 5 ghz or licensed microwaves. Appreciate your comments and suggestions. Regards Aali WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fiber On Air (gigabit wireless)
60 GHZ product (AR60X) is max 2.5 KM only. I just browsed their website. -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 6:51 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber On Air (gigabit wireless) Call Bridgewave. Your only option seems to be 60 Ghz. Why can't you do licensed? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Jawad A Hai ahja...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello All, I have a requirement to provide gigabit between two sites, fiber is one option. but the distance is 2.6 KM. We have a reseller who came up with gigabit wireless solution. its from fsona. http://fsona.com/product.php?sec=1250m Have any body used the above or any similar products ? Any suggestions. Cannot do 5 ghz or licensed microwaves. Appreciate your comments and suggestions. Regards Aali WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2
Hello, Have any body used this product LIGOPTP24-2. Its on 24 GHZ unlicensed spectrum, does not need an IDU unit. How is the product and does it really delivers what the vendor promises. I need about 100 Mbps link, sites have LOS, distance is around 5 KM. don't wanna use 5 ghz band its really crowded. The price band is around 10k USD. Or can any body suggest me a product in same lines ??? Appreciate your support. Aali WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas
PtP I will go for short distances anything under 10 KM. Above that I will go for dish. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 5:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas Just noticed the subject was ptp. What kind of distances? Panels are not a great choice a lot of the time. On Jul 13, 2011 10:23 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: I like ARC Wireless, been happy with them. Never heard of Lanbowan or Jirous. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Jawad A Hai ahja...@hotmail.com wrote: ** Hello, I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate if you some body can advise me. Hi, This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt without any luck ) I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from UBNT) Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel. i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless. Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering. ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to port isolation(MIMO). Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is nothing without a good antenna. My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range in very crowded environments. I have been trying different brands with different results and its difficult to test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an advise here on the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just one link or two, i needed some permanent vendor. Thank YOu WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas
Too much antenna ?? you mean bigger antenna gain ?? From: Jerry Richardson Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 7:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas In my opinion it's better to have too much antenna and turn the Tx power down so that I can get narrower beamwidths. The narrower beamwidths make a big difference in a noisy environments. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jawad A Hai Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas PtP I will go for short distances anything under 10 KM. Above that I will go for dish. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 5:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas Just noticed the subject was ptp. What kind of distances? Panels are not a great choice a lot of the time. On Jul 13, 2011 10:23 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: I like ARC Wireless, been happy with them. Never heard of Lanbowan or Jirous. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Jawad A Hai ahja...@hotmail.com wrote: ** Hello, I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate if you some body can advise me. Hi, This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt without any luck ) I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from UBNT) Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel. i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless. Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering. ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to port isolation(MIMO). Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is nothing without a good antenna. My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range in very crowded environments. I have been trying different brands with different results and its difficult to test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an advise here on the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just one link or two, i needed some permanent vendor. Thank YOu WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3763 - Release Date: 07/13/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas
Yes I agree ... Nice piece of advise. From: Jerry Richardson Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 8:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas Yes but not necessarily for more EIRP. At 5.8GHz a 23dB panel antenna is ~10deg where a 30dB 2' dish is ~5deg. Since you mentioned you are in a high noise environment, the narrower beamwidth would be preferred. The benefit is that from the Tx side, you are minimizing the amount of spectrum pollution by minimizing the beamwidth and increasing power density. At the Rx side the antenna sees less sky and as such sees less noise increasing your overall link S/N. Depending on the direction of other tranmitters this can mean the differnece between a link that works and link that fails (think cupping your hand behind your ear to hear in a crowded room). A part of antenna selection that many don't consider is spectrum conservation. The goal is to try to achieve the desired link performance while using as little EIRP as possible and minimizing overspray. The less noise you put into the spectrum, the better things will be for you since your competetors won't need to turn up their radios to hear over yours. If you can manage to put up a link in a way that the other guys doesn't even know you are there, you win. If you cause him interference and he turns up his power, or worse moves channels you lose. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jawad A Hai Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas Too much antenna ?? you mean bigger antenna gain ?? From: Jerry Richardson Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 7:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas In my opinion it's better to have too much antenna and turn the Tx power down so that I can get narrower beamwidths. The narrower beamwidths make a big difference in a noisy environments. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jawad A Hai Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas PtP I will go for short distances anything under 10 KM. Above that I will go for dish. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 5:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas Just noticed the subject was ptp. What kind of distances? Panels are not a great choice a lot of the time. On Jul 13, 2011 10:23 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: I like ARC Wireless, been happy with them. Never heard of Lanbowan or Jirous. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Jawad A Hai ahja...@hotmail.com wrote: ** Hello, I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate if you some body can advise me. Hi, This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt without any luck ) I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from UBNT) Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel. i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless. Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering. ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to port isolation(MIMO). Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is nothing without a good antenna. My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range in very crowded environments. I have been trying different brands with different results and its difficult to test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an advise here on the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just one link or two, i needed some permanent vendor. Thank YOu WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG
[WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas
Hello, I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate if you some body can advise me. Hi, This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt without any luck ) I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from UBNT) Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel. i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless. Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering. ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to port isolation(MIMO). Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is nothing without a good antenna. My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range in very crowded environments. I have been trying different brands with different results and its difficult to test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an advise here on the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just one link or two, i needed some permanent vendor. Thank YOu WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas
Hello Josh, What antennas did you use? Flate Panel or Dish (MIMO), ? What is your Radio that goes with ARC ?? did you get a chance to use other brands beside ARC ? http://en.jirous.com/antenna-5ghz/jrc-29-dx-pr http://www.lanbowan.com/products/en_vpro.asp?id=707 From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas I like ARC Wireless, been happy with them. Never heard of Lanbowan or Jirous. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Jawad A Hai ahja...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate if you some body can advise me. Hi, This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt without any luck ) I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from UBNT) Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel. i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless. Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering. ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to port isolation(MIMO). Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is nothing without a good antenna. My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range in very crowded environments. I have been trying different brands with different results and its difficult to test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an advise here on the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just one link or two, i needed some permanent vendor. Thank YOu WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas
Hello Jerry, Thank YOu for the suggestion. You have exactly understood my problem, I read specs and bring the product and test then compare it with other I always had issues. My main issues is the place where I live I don't have liberty of importing using direct channels. I have to use backdoors for importing and I usually import large numbers and keep them in stock. The stock usually last for 2-4 months. Problem now is UBNT is out of stock and waiting time is 6 weeks +. Appreciate your reply Jerry. From: Jerry Richardson Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas Jawad, There is no simple answer to this. You have to take manufactuer specs with a grain of salt as many will skew the numbers leading you to believe the product is better than it is. The other issue is that in many cases the product is a re-branded product made by someone else. Truth be told, if you want PtP in noisy environments you might consider using the new Ubiquity RocketM-GPS radios. You will be able to run channels closer together and in some cases re-use channels which will help a lot. The kits are low-cost and high performance, and the dishes work great. For panels, ARC has always performed as I expected it to. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jawad A Hai Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas Hello, I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate if you some body can advise me. Hi, This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt without any luck ) I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from UBNT) Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel. i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless. Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering. ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to port isolation(MIMO). Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is nothing without a good antenna. My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range in very crowded environments. I have been trying different brands with different results and its difficult to test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an advise here on the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just one link or two, i needed some permanent vendor. Thank YOu No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3762 - Release Date: 07/13/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
