Re: [WISPA] switch ports
If its temp controlled then how about humidity controlled? I would ground the rack and the chassis. --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] CCNA - Mikrotik Advanced Certified - CCNT http://www.mtin.net http://j2sw.mtin.net http://www.ndwave.com -Original Message- From: Cameron Kilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:05 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] switch ports Wish I could be of more, help, we had problems 4000m and sometimes with the 2424m in severe cold, but most of the time the 2424m was stable except for the occasional Ethernet port failure, but once it got warm again, it was fine. However in real critical sites of severe cold we have had great success with the 2524m. However, none of this means anything if your temperature is controlled. I would call HP and have them send you a replacement. They are really good about it. 800-474-6836 Thank You, Cameron Kilton Broadband Department Assistant Systems Administrator Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (207)594-8277 ext. 108 -- High speed internet access on Islands? Most ISPs would say YOU'RE crazy, we'll say When do you want it? http://www.midcoast.com/mis/broadband/wireless/ --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 9:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] switch ports 2424m Cameron Kilton wrote: What model of procurve switches are you using at these sites which are affected? Thank You, Cameron Kilton Broadband Department Assistant Systems Administrator Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (207)594-8277 ext. 108 -- High speed internet access on Islands? Most ISPs would say YOU'RE crazy, we'll say When do you want it? http://www.midcoast.com/mis/broadband/wireless/ --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] switch ports They are inside, in a controlled environment. We have 40 or so switches like this, and it only seems to happen at 2 or 3 locations (the most remote ones, of course). Travis Larry Yunker wrote: Travis, Is the switch in a temperature / humidity controlled environment or is it sitting outside in a relatively uncontrolled NEMA enclosure? I've seen a lot of switches die during cold weather when run in NEMA boxes. Keeping the box above freezing seems to resolve the issue in most cases. Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] switch ports Hi, Recently we have starting having ports on our ethernet switches blow out. This is during the middle of winter, when there is no lightning or any other static electricity. We simply move to a different port on the switch and everything is fine. We have protected PoE injectors (Pacific Wireless) with grounded power cords. We are using HP Procurve switches. We usually have a 3ft patch cord between the injector and switch. Is there any particular brand of managed switch that handles this type of issue better than any others? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http
Re: [WISPA] switch ports
Are the switchesin racks? Are both the rack and the switch at common ground? Justin --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] CCNA - Mikrotik Advanced Certified - CCNT http://www.mtin.net http://j2sw.mtin.net http://www.ndwave.com -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 11:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] switch ports Hi, Recently we have starting having ports on our ethernet switches blow out. This is during the middle of winter, when there is no lightning or any other static electricity. We simply move to a different port on the switch and everything is fine. We have protected PoE injectors (Pacific Wireless) with grounded power cords. We are using HP Procurve switches. We usually have a 3ft patch cord between the injector and switch. Is there any particular brand of managed switch that handles this type of issue better than any others? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Strange BH Behavior
Scott, If you do a large byte ping do you get packet loss? We just replaced a 532 board that would ping fine until you sent a large ping to it. We have seen this in the past with the 532's. The ethernet becomes weak. Send a 1000 byte ping to it or whatever the proper terminology is and see if it starts dropping more pings. Justin -- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mikrotik Certified - CCNA - ComTrain - ACSA - CCNT --- WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://j2sw.mtin.net WEB: http://www.ndwave.com AOL IM: j2sw From: Scott Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:55:24 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Strange BH Behavior I have a backhaul link, RB532 w/CM9 (I think) to RB532 w/SR2 (I think) that is a great link, most of the time. Every once in a while it will quite passing traffic. If I setup a ping on the 32 on one end to ping the other, it will go just fine, no packet loss. But eventually all the customer connections will stop passing traffic for 10 seconds to 2 minutes. Then it starts up again. All the while the ping doesn't seem to change its response time. Any ideas what may be going on? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Strange BH Behavior
We just marked it as dead and sent it back. This particular AP had 65 customers on it and we are not going to trust it again. Even pings to the ethernet side were poor. Pings from the mikrotik to associated customers were fine. Justin -- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mikrotik Certified - CCNA - ComTrain - ACSA - CCNT --- WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://j2sw.mtin.net WEB: http://www.ndwave.com AOL IM: j2sw From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:15:51 -0800 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange BH Behavior Was this device recoverable or just dead? I have a 532 that is exhibiting the same thing. ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin S. Wilson Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:10 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange BH Behavior Scott, If you do a large byte ping do you get packet loss? We just replaced a 532 board that would ping fine until you sent a large ping to it. We have seen this in the past with the 532's. The ethernet becomes weak. Send a 1000 byte ping to it or whatever the proper terminology is and see if it starts dropping more pings. Justin -- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mikrotik Certified - CCNA - ComTrain - ACSA - CCNT --- WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://j2sw.mtin.net WEB: http://www.ndwave.com AOL IM: j2sw From: Scott Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:55:24 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Strange BH Behavior I have a backhaul link, RB532 w/CM9 (I think) to RB532 w/SR2 (I think) that is a great link, most of the time. Every once in a while it will quite passing traffic. If I setup a ping on the 32 on one end to ping the other, it will go just fine, no packet loss. But eventually all the customer connections will stop passing traffic for 10 seconds to 2 minutes. Then it starts up again. All the while the ping doesn't seem to change its response time. Any ideas what may be going on? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] BGP
You can do bgp padding and other tricks. Part of it depends on if you are receiving full routes from your upstream or not. If you need help with ARIN let me know and I can help. Justin --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] CCNA - Mikrotik Advanced Certified - CCNT http://www.mtin.net http://j2sw.mtin.net http://www.ndwave.com -Original Message- From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:04 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] BGP If one were to multihome/BGP a wisp primarily serving home users between Cogent and another carrier like TWT or other where would the majority of the traffic wind up flowing? Just considering some bandwidth options. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Temporary Telescoping Mast
Those are big files. My phone choked! -- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://j2sw.mtin.net AOL IM: j2sw From: CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:16:51 -0800 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Temporary Telescoping Mast 85 foot Site survey and installation solution. That's what we use every day. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 1:34 PM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] Temporary Telescoping Mast I'm looking at getting a telescoping mast to check for signals. It sure would be nice to know just how high I have to go to get good signal vs. knowing that 7' - 8' (where is as tall as I can hold the antenna) isn't enough. If I'm next to a house, no big deal... someone stands at the base (I think I saw a steak mount) while someone else stands on the roof to steady. How would I steady it in the middle of nowhere... i.e.: checking to see how I could steady it when I'm checking signal in some experiments\long term production use. I do have access to flatbed trailers I could guy to the pockets... not for transport, though, just stationary testing. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Recall: Numerous totally new WISP products - Alvarion WISPWebinar
Bad press release? --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] CCNA - Mikrotik Advanced Certified - CCNT http://www.mtin.net http://j2sw.mtin.net http://www.ndwave.com -Original Message- From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Recall: Numerous totally new WISP products - Alvarion WISPWebinar Patrick Leary would like to recall the message, [WISPA] Numerous totally new WISP products - Alvarion WISPWebinar. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/01/2214205from=rss In order to coordinate and expand access to the state's broadband data network, Ohio Governor Ted Strickland has signed an executive order establishing the Ohio Broadband Council and the Broadband Ohio Network. The order directs the Ohio Broadband Council to coordinate efforts to extend access to the Broadband Ohio Network to every county in Ohio. The order allows public and private entities to tap into the Broadband Ohio Network - all with a goal of expanding access to high-speed internet service in parts of the state that presently don't have such service. --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://www.metrospan.net WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Tower Accident
One of the reasons climbers need to wear hard hats and be 100 percent tied off. I could not imagine what would happen if it hit him on the head. I have other opinions but OSHA might not like them so I will leave it at that. Glad your guy is okay. Justin --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://www.metrospan.net WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zak Wolfinger Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tower Accident Hi Folks, We had what turned out to be a minor tower accident involving one of our tower climbers. It appears that he had attached a wrench to the wrong carabiner on another climbers harness. When climber #2 detached the carabiner, the wrench fell without his knowledge. Climber #2 was up to 50' above Climber #1 at this time. The wrench appears to have hit the ladder directly in front of Climber #1's face and entered end-first into his mouth. This chipped a couple of his front teeth, cracked one of his wisdom teeth, and tore a quarter-sized hole in the soft pallet near the rear of his mouth. The tear required six stitches. Needless to say, we are quite grateful for the outcome. This incident underscores the extreme risk that our climbers operate under. It also illustrates how a very simple error can have potentially devastating consequences. His injuries, although quite painful, were not life threatening. It could easily have been otherwise. Had the wrench hit his temple, forehead, or eye socket, it could have resulted in blindness or even death. Our hats go off to all of the brave guys who operate in this environment. May God bless you all. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Tower Accident
I did read the post. But as my post said: I could not imagine what would happen if it hit him on the head. Could not imagine...if Were the key words. Nothing can protect from all scenarios. If so tower climbers would be going up in full body suits with Kevlar. Would look like space men on the tower. Justin --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://www.metrospan.net WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Accident If you read the post, the wrench hit the ladder and then bounced into his face. Even if he had a hard hat on (which I am guessing he did), it does not protect your face. Travis Microserv Justin S. Wilson wrote: One of the reasons climbers need to wear hard hats and be 100 percent tied off. I could not imagine what would happen if it hit him on the head. I have other opinions but OSHA might not like them so I will leave it at that. Glad your guy is okay. Justin --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://www.metrospan.net WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zak Wolfinger Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tower Accident Hi Folks, We had what turned out to be a minor tower accident involving one of our tower climbers. It appears that he had attached a wrench to the wrong carabiner on another climbers harness. When climber #2 detached the carabiner, the wrench fell without his knowledge. Climber #2 was up to 50' above Climber #1 at this time. The wrench appears to have hit the ladder directly in front of Climber #1's face and entered end-first into his mouth. This chipped a couple of his front teeth, cracked one of his wisdom teeth, and tore a quarter-sized hole in the soft pallet near the rear of his mouth. The tear required six stitches. Needless to say, we are quite grateful for the outcome. This incident underscores the extreme risk that our climbers operate under. It also illustrates how a very simple error can have potentially devastating consequences. His injuries, although quite painful, were not life threatening. It could easily have been otherwise. Had the wrench hit his temple, forehead, or eye socket, it could have resulted in blindness or even death. Our hats go off to all of the brave guys who operate in this environment. May God bless you all. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Google Buys Postini
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/09/ap3893605.html Google Inc. said Monday it agreed to buy Postini, which provides security software for electronic communications, for $625 million in cash. Google (nasdaq: GOOG http://finapps.forbes.com/finapps/jsp/finance/compinfo/CIAtAGlance.jsp?tkr= GOOG - news http://www.forbes.com/markets/company_news.jhtml?ticker=GOOG - people http://www.forbes.com/peopletracker/results.jhtml?startRow=0name=ticker=G OOG ) plans to operate the company as a subsidiary in its Google Apps unit, which includes its e-mail, calendar and documents applications. --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://www.metrospan.net WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Verizon in the Fixed Wireless business
I have been on towers with Verizon gear on them and Alvarion gear alongside. Not sure what they were using them for but they were there. Justin --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://www.metrospan.net WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon in the Fixed Wireless business Verizon has several deployments of Alvarion gear out there. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 6:37 PM Subject: [WISPA] Verizon in the Fixed Wireless business A couple months late posting. But interesting to see Verizon working its way into Fixed Wireless. http://www.fibertower.com/corp/solutions-government-networx.shtml Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Low cost generator
Talk with JohnnyO. He has some industrial grade generators with ultra low hours, low rpm running, etc. They put the Home Depot ones to shame and probably not that much more. Justin --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://www.metrospan.net WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 11:37 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Low cost generator David, Oh, ok...I missed the original post link to the 3800.00 generator. After poking around on the www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com site I came across the $1959.00 7kW LP Natural gas genset delivered, tax included, with transfer switch and $40 check discount. I'm inclined to bite off on that deal if I knew for certain all my APC's (500VA and greater) would be happy with it. grin Ralph, Kudos on a great score at Home Depot! Gotta love a motivated big box manager when in their eyes they have an albatross SKU. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:33 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Low cost generator We've used the Guardians (Generac) from Home Depot. Work fine. Every one I have ever seen came with the transfer switch. Best deal was a 12Kw I got that was brand new, but the transfer switch and the top of the generator were slightly dented. Seems like I gave $1500.00 for it. HD said it was 400.00 below cost. I have been told by the HD folks that unless you have it installed by their folks, the warranty is void, though. I am not sure how true that is. I don't think they (HD) sell them without installation. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Low cost generator Brad Belton wrote: So, you bought this LP Natural Gas generator for $1460 delivered, including tax and transfer switch? Not quite. I was going on the price posted with the OP's link, which had a displayed price of about $3800 (at the time I looked at it, at least). That unit can run on either propane or natural gas, out of the box (as it were). We paid about $3000 plus sales tax and delivery, which made it around $3200, including the transfer switch and sundry bits. I was surprised to find a good price on a generator at Lowe's, but then I always thought of Lowe's as more of a home improvement store, and didn't expect them to carry things this big. (Maybe I'm just naive or something, dunno.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Low cost generator
You could always buy a Toyota Prius and use it as a generator: http://www.wikihow.com/Use-a-Toyota-Prius-As-a-Backup-Generator --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://www.metrospan.net WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Provide Internet ?
Can anyone provide wireless in the following states and coordinates? NC 34° 43 19 X 78° 47 14 OK 36° 39 36 X 101° 23 40 WI 44° 54 20 X 92° 22 30 WA 46° 12 ?? X 119° 57 ?? IA 41° 56 ?? X 94° 24 ?? Contact me offlist. These are some remote locations so please give me a pretty good idea. Each site will have a rohn25g tower. Not sure on height, but not overly tall. Justin -- Life is unfair, but root password helps --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTIN.NET Access - WISP Consulting - Tower Climbing CCNA - CCNT - COMTRAIN Certified - ACSA WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://www.findawisp.com TEL:765.762.2851 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RE: Ethernet over 328ft (Russ Kreigh)
Bet the climbers would like to listen to the radio. :-). I climbed a 50,000 watt FM radio tower once to replace a flash bulb. Had the radiation suit and everything. As I climbed they turned down the power and all that but I could still taste metal in my mouth. A customer who bought a house about 2 miles away from this tower. Said he could take a speaker and touch it to metal on the electrical outlets and pick up the radio station that was broadcasting from the tower. Several years ago I remember seeing a guy getting ready to climb an AM tower. He did not jump onto the tower like you should. He got a little bit of a jolt. Justin -- Life is unfair, but root password helps --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTIN.NET Access - WISP Consulting - Tower Climbing CCNA - CCNT - COMTRAIN Certified - ACSA WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://www.findawisp.com TEL:765.762.2851 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Re: Posting limits?
I think for a small WISP to be successful you need enough money at the start to do some stuff right. The reason I put that in quotes is you are hardly ever going to have enough money to do everything you want to. Have enough money to buy equipment that fits your needs. I see too many WISPs try to make equipment fit their needs when it really won't. If you dump some extra money into something and it makes it that much more reliable for you then having that part-time job will be of more benefit. For a couple of years I worked a full-time job 40 minutes away from my office. I did all my installs, new pops, etc. in the evenings and on weekends. On some new pops I tried to save some money and make some cheaper equipment fit my needs. I was constantly having issues. It did not take me long to figure out that I needed equipment that did what I wanted it to do. Take some time to standardize on equipment if you have not already. Having the same APs, the same switches, same CPE, and everything makes troubleshooting much easier. Just some of my random thoughts for a Monday. Justin -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Re: Network Monitoring and Graphing
We use a combo of: Cacti GroundWork (http://www.groundworkopensource.com/products/) And [EMAIL PROTECTED] Justin -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OPEN Access POint in Legal Case
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070422-child-porn-case-shows-that-an- open-wifi-network-is-no-defense.html Child http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070422-child-porn-case-shows-that-an -open-wifi-network-is-no-defense.html porn case shows that an open WiFi network is no defense By Eric Bangeman http://arstechnica.com/authors.ars/I+Palindrome+I | Published: April 22, 2007 - 11:30PM CT The merits of leaving your wireless access point (WAP) open have been discussed and debated at length, especially when it comes to law enforcement. There is a growing belief that file sharers can protect themselves against lawsuits by keeping their wireless access points open. The problem is, it won't necessarily. A Texas man who was convicted of possessing child pornography tried to use his open WiFi network as a defense, saying that someone else could have used the same network to traffic in pornographic images. The US Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit didn't buy his argument and upheld the conviction. Justin -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition
Found this on Slashdot For years, plenty of folks (including the Government Accountability Office) have been pointing out that the way the FCC http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070205/165735.shtml measures broadband competition is very flawed. It simply assumes that if a single household in a zip code is offered broadband by provider A, then every household in that zip code can get broadband from provider A. See the problem? For some reason the FCC still hasn't changed its ways, but at least they're starting to realize the problem. They're now saying they need to change http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2115154,00.asp the way they measure competition. Commissioner Michael Copps points out: 'Our statistical methodology seems almost calculated to obscure just how far http://techdirt.com/articles/20070418/143208.shtml our country is falling behind many other industrialized nations in broadband availability, adoption, speed and price.' -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Grounding Article
I found this on one of the tower lists I belong to. Figured I would pass it along. http://mrtmag.com/techspeak/radio_wellgrounded_principles/ Justin -- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Access - Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing COMTRAIN - ACSA - CCNA - CCNT http://www.mtin.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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http://a301.g.akamai.net/7/301/1403/v001/www.itworld.com/images/spacer.gifCa rrier groups oppose spectrum auction proposal IDG News Service 4/6/07 Grant Gross, IDG News Service, Washington Bureau Representatives of large broadband and wireless carriers have voiced opposition to a proposal from consumer groups that would impose open access and net neutrality conditions on a spectrum auction next year. http://wireless.itworld.com/4279/070406carrierspectrum/page_1.html Justin image001.png Description: PNG image -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] (no subject)
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-271695A1.doc Key part of the document: Specifically, the Ruling finds that the transmission component underlying wireless broadband Internet access service is telecommunications, and that the provision of this telecommunications transmission component as part of a functionally integrated wireless Internet access service is an information service. This approach is consistent with the framework that the Commission already has established for cable modem service, wireline broadband Internet access service, and BPL-enabled Internet access service, thus furthering the goal of regulating like services in a similar manner. The FCC also found that wireless broadband Internet access service using mobile technologies is not a commercial mobile service, as that term is defined in the Act and implemented in the FCC's rules Justin -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Re: Moisture Ingress
Tape, Mastic, Tape. Watch the way the cell guys do it. They don't get fancy. Make sure your wraps are good. Electricians are actually taught how to wrap tape properly. We have some mastic from the local HVAC guys. Real easy to work with and it very pliable. Make sure to push the mastic in to the little nooks and crannies. If it is cold out invest in a little propane torch to heat things up and make them bond. Justin -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RE: Marion, Indiana??
We have some limited coverage in Marion, IN. OnlyInternet has some coverage, at least as far as I know. I can provide more setails on our Marion offerings offlist. Thanks, Justin -- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 765.762.2851 WEB : www.mtin.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RE: Marion, Indiana??
Butch, I did not want to step on anyone's toes by calling the customer direct. I saw the form, but did not see anything about it being a lead for anyone who wanted it. We routinely trade accounts with other WISPs, etc. Sometimes they give them to us, other times we wholesale it out. Couple of years ago we created some bad blood in a similiar situation with a T-1 customer. Hope everyone is keeping warm, unlike us. Snow is falling. Justin -- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 765.762.2851 WEB : www.mtin.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Re: Secondary DNS
We like swapping physical boxes for ease of use. We don't have to worry about adding/removing new domains the other ISP has, etc. The box is their responsibility. We simply say here's your IP info and away you go. Makes life easier all the way around. just my .02 BTW: if anyone is interested in a swap e-mail me offlist and we can talk. Justin --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 765.762.2851 WEB : www.mtin.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
