[WISPA] Eave Mounts
Awhile back someone posted some information about a particular mount they really liked. It was similar to the one below. Item #: MTPEVE: http://www.summitsource.com/eagle-satellite-dish-gable-eave-mount-bracket-universal-support-outdoor-hdtv-antenna-aerials-with-swivel-easy-mount-setup-part-perfect-evemnt-p-6109.html We tried them out and the guys loved them. Problem is SummitSource has been and expects to remain out of stock. Anybody have another source for these types of mounts? thanks, Kevin ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Eave Mounts
Thanks Scott and Louis. We will take a look. Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Eave Mounts We just ordered similar product from Skywalker. On 10/3/2014 2:58 PM, Louis Arsenault wrote: http://aisatellite.com/products#Eaves-Mounts On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com wrote: Awhile back someone posted some information about a particular mount they really liked. It was similar to the one below. Item #: MTPEVE: http://www.summitsource.com/eagle-satellite-dish-gable-eave-mount-bra cket-universal-support-outdoor-hdtv-antenna-aerials-with-swivel-easy- mount-setup-part-perfect-evemnt-p-6109.html We tried them out and the guys loved them. Problem is SummitSource has been and expects to remain out of stock. Anybody have another source for these types of mounts? thanks, Kevin ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Eave Mounts
I finally found some at katerno.com that we are going to try. Spending between $20 and $40 for what we were spending $8 on seemed difficult to deal with. Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of timothy steele Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 3:20 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Eave Mounts Mowinet sells them says out of stuck right now tho — Sent from Mailboxhttps://www.dropbox.com/mailbox On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.commailto:ko...@fsr.com wrote: Thanks Scott and Louis. We will take a look. Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Eave Mounts We just ordered similar product from Skywalker. On 10/3/2014 2:58 PM, Louis Arsenault wrote: http://aisatellite.com/products#Eaves-Mounts On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.commailto:ko...@fsr.com wrote: Awhile back someone posted some information about a particular mount they really liked. It was similar to the one below. Item #: MTPEVE: http://www.summitsource.com/eagle-satellite-dish-gable-eave-mount-bra cket-universal-support-outdoor-hdtv-antenna-aerials-with-swivel-easy- mount-setup-part-perfect-evemnt-p-6109.html We tried them out and the guys loved them. Problem is SummitSource has been and expects to remain out of stock. Anybody have another source for these types of mounts? thanks, Kevin ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.nethttp://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
Marlon, Is the Shireen Dry Gel cable also shielded? Do you have a part/product # for it? Thanks, Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 4:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Have you tried the Shireen dry gel? I’m addicted. Stays dry and easy to work with until it gets wet. IF there’s a problem that allows liquid into the cable it self seals the hole. Pretty cool stuff. I do wish they had a better packaging system. I really miss the “rabbit pull” mechanism that my indoor cable uses. marlon From: Scott Reedmailto:sr...@nwwnet.net Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:31 AM To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations. Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers. On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote: I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for towers and installs so there is that option — Sent from Mailboxhttps://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote: Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is better, but the partners are upset from the BS from earlier go arounds thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7024 - Release Date: 01/22/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.nethttp://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
Great. Thanks, Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 9:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box You can get it either way, shielded or not. Compare them here: https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/cables/cat5e.html On 1/24/2014 12:43 PM, Kevin Owen wrote: Marlon, Is the Shireen Dry Gel cable also shielded? Do you have a part/product # for it? Thanks, Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 4:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Have you tried the Shireen dry gel? I’m addicted. Stays dry and easy to work with until it gets wet. IF there’s a problem that allows liquid into the cable it self seals the hole. Pretty cool stuff. I do wish they had a better packaging system. I really miss the “rabbit pull” mechanism that my indoor cable uses. marlon From: Scott Reedmailto:sr...@nwwnet.net Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:31 AM To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations. Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers. On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote: I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for towers and installs so there is that option — Sent from Mailboxhttps://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote: Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is better, but the partners are upset from the BS from earlier go arounds thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7024 - Release Date: 01/22/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.nethttp://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7030 - Release Date: 01/24/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.nethttp://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
Here is the product I ordered after being pointed there by Scott. [https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/50x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/c/dc-1041_2.gif] Outdoor CAT5e FTP Shielded - Gel Filled - Outer Jacket - 1000ft Spool DC-1041 Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 10:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box INTERESTING! I didn't know shireen made a shielded version. That's one reason we've only used the d-gel for very certain things. It's not listed on our primary vendor's site (streakwave). Thanks for the find/info! Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/24/2014 08:48 AM, Scott Reed wrote: You can get it either way, shielded or not. Compare them here: https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/cables/cat5e.html On 1/24/2014 12:43 PM, Kevin Owen wrote: Marlon, Is the Shireen Dry Gel cable also shielded? Do you have a part/product # for it? Thanks, Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 4:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Have you tried the Shireen dry gel? I'm addicted. Stays dry and easy to work with until it gets wet. IF there's a problem that allows liquid into the cable it self seals the hole. Pretty cool stuff. I do wish they had a better packaging system. I really miss the rabbit pull mechanism that my indoor cable uses. marlon From: Scott Reedmailto:sr...@nwwnet.net Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:31 AM To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations. Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers. On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote: I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for towers and installs so there is that option - Sent from Mailboxhttps://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote: Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is better, but the partners are upset from the BS from earlier go arounds thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7024 - Release Date: 01/22/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.nethttp://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7030 - Release Date: 01/24/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.nethttp://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] ConnectEd
Do we know if WISPA as an organization is currently reviewing or plans to review/make comments to the NPRM for the revisions to the E-Rate program. Is WISPA following the discussions concerning the Federal ConnectED program that wants to see a minimum connection standard to all schools and libraries of 100 megs with a 5 year goal of having access to 1 gig of available bandwidth for all schools and libraries? thanks, Kevin Owen First Step Internet, LLC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd
It will be an interesting discussion for sure. We currently have service built to many schools, most with the capacity to provide 100 + megs. Most schools are purchasing somewhere in the 5 – 20meg range as that is what they can afford, including their current subsidy from E-Rate. We are providing service to rural schools and they just can’t afford more. Not sure how the FCC feels these schools will be able to afford 100+ meg connections and beyond that, where does the money come from to continue to fund E-Rate with what are sure to be large increased demands on the funding to support these larger pipes. Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd I think so. I asked the same question a few weeks ago and the response was something to the effect of, Is this something WISPA members want to respond to? The response seemed to be a resounding yes. Now I just hope that it's something that we can get a piece of vs. telling them to not do it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.commailto:ko...@fsr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:42:13 PM Subject: [WISPA] ConnectEd Do we know if WISPA as an organization is currently reviewing or plans to review/make comments to the NPRM for the revisions to the E-Rate program. Is WISPA following the discussions concerning the Federal ConnectED program that wants to see a minimum connection standard to all schools and libraries of 100 megs with a 5 year goal of having access to 1 gig of available bandwidth for all schools and libraries? thanks, Kevin Owen First Step Internet, LLC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends
Do they support shielded cabling? Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends We love the EZ-RJ45 units. Get them from Marsh Cable. It’s the style where the wires go right through the ends of the connectors and the crimper crimps and cuts at the same time. HUGE time saver. marlon From: heith petersenmailto:wi...@mncomm.com Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:50 AM To: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends I was curious what shielded ends members are using. I typically use the cable that Cayman wireless sells, definitely not tough cable. I prefer the UBNT tough ends as I have no issues with them, however some of my techs dread them. I have purchased some other ends in the past but at a high premium. Anyways just looking for some ideas as I am getting out voted on the tough ends. thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Acros the border services
Hi everybody, I was asked by a bandwidth partner to see if anyone had any experience providing microwave shots that crossed from the US to Mexico, specifically, from Texas to Mexico. Since we live nowhere near, this isn't an issue that I have ever addressed or researched. I am sure there are a whole host of potential issues. Likely there are import / export regulations concerning the hardware, frequency use, licensing issues, etc etc. If this is even possible and legal, they may be looking for someone's help to build a microwave path that originates in the US with the other side being in Mexico. Is there anybody on the list providing services to both sides of the boarder or anybody with any experience that can say that it isn't possible? Thanks for your input. Kevin Owen First Step Internet, LLC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Acros the border services
Thanks Chuck, That is much how I suspected it would be done. Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 4:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Acros the border services I know of one health care company that does this, but apparently it is done under the radar, meaning in a window of a building on both sides. I wouldn't have believed it until the CFO showed me pics of the PTP-600. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.commailto:ko...@fsr.com wrote: Hi everybody, I was asked by a bandwidth partner to see if anyone had any experience providing microwave shots that crossed from the US to Mexico, specifically, from Texas to Mexico. Since we live nowhere near, this isn't an issue that I have ever addressed or researched. I am sure there are a whole host of potential issues. Likely there are import / export regulations concerning the hardware, frequency use, licensing issues, etc etc. If this is even possible and legal, they may be looking for someone's help to build a microwave path that originates in the US with the other side being in Mexico. Is there anybody on the list providing services to both sides of the boarder or anybody with any experience that can say that it isn't possible? Thanks for your input. Kevin Owen First Step Internet, LLC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] FW: New Broadband Public Notice has been Published
With the other discussions occurring concerning the BIP program, I thought this PNF may be of interest for those serving the Texas markets identified in the filing. Kevin -Original Message- From: rd.broadb...@wdc.usda.gov [mailto:rd.broadb...@wdc.usda.gov] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:22 AM To: Kevin Owen Subject: New Broadband Public Notice has been Published A new Public Notice Filing has been published based on the submission of a new loan application to the RUS Broadband Loan and Loan Guarantee Program. To view click on http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/LegalNoticeFiling/View.aspx?LegalNoticeFilingId=e914621e-933f-4e9a-a304-3da6bab06f73 If you wish to unsubscribe to this notification system, please click on http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/Subscription/Initiate.aspx?action=cancel Sincerely, The Rural Utilities Service (RUS) ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal
I would love to hear more about this. We have several contracts with American Tower and when I asked in the past about any special deals for WISPA members, I was told we needed to have 10 towers leased before there was a special. Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 5:31 PM To: a...@afmug.com Cc: WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org) Subject: Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal I have my name in. Waiting on info from my rep. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 8, 2012 8:27 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Anyone has the details on this? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango
Exactly my point. It doesn't make sense that someone representing Dragonwave would state this is a $5k repair, not saying it didn't happen, just saying it doesn't make sense to me. Even DragonWave, which I think has the perception of being higher priced, shouldn't have a one side $5k repair/ replace on an ODU. The last time I priced a DragonWave path and a Trango path side by side, they were very close in price so at least at the time, DragonWave wasn't particularly out of line with the others in this space. Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 9:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango Hell, other vendors that have been in teh sapce a long time are just over that for the entire link (including dishes). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 1:20:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango Yikes, That doesn’t sound good from DragonWave’s perspective. At $5k, that is nearly the cost for the entire radio path, (not counting antennas, PONE, etc) Can’t imagine why they would charge such a price. Were you working directly with DragonWave or through a vendor? We do most of our DragonWave purchasing through Tessco. Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 11:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango We've used a few Trango, no SAF, and one Dragonwave. We had one of the Trango units recieve a near-lightning strike, which completely killed it. We sent it in, and they fixed it for $600, (out of warranty). We put it back up, and it failed about six months later. We sent it in, and we had it back fixed from Trango under warranty, (since they had just repaired it six month before), in four business days. Their support so far seems pretty quick, and $600 for a lightning repair seems reasonable. Dragonwave was a total pain. The link was a fair amount more expensive than Trango, and when the ODU broke out-of-warranty, they told us we had to buy a new ODU -- for $5,000. It's now sitting out in my warehouse, has been for over a year. Still don't know why that ODU broke, they just said it was bad. I still think that the whole licensed link scene is a bit overpriced. I'd put them up like hotcakes if we could do 250mbps for $5k, installed. But, then, so would everyone else. Kevin - Original Message - From: Kevin Owen To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango At First Step we started deploying DragonWave units long ago and in an effort to keep the network somewhat consistent, we have been installing them ever since. (~ 100 paths installed) We have been very happy with the product and support. I am curious for those of you that are evaluating Trango vs. SAF, have you considered DragonWave? If you have ruled them out can you share why? They do only have a one year standard warranty but when we evaluated bids for large project a few years ago, the vendor for SAF at the time was only offering a 3 year standard warranty. Thanks, Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 6:49 AM To: can...@believewireless.net ; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango Why are you doing all new links with SAF is the question being asked here. I'm actually deciding on Trango vs SAF right now. Once I start with one vendor I want to stick with it for all future links to reduce the different spares. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:44 AM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: All things equal, SAF has a 5 year warranty and fantastic tech support. We have both Trango and SAF in our network and now all new links are SAF exclusively. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango
At First Step we started deploying DragonWave units long ago and in an effort to keep the network somewhat consistent, we have been installing them ever since. (~ 100 paths installed) We have been very happy with the product and support. I am curious for those of you that are evaluating Trango vs. SAF, have you considered DragonWave? If you have ruled them out can you share why? They do only have a one year standard warranty but when we evaluated bids for large project a few years ago, the vendor for SAF at the time was only offering a 3 year standard warranty. Thanks, Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 6:49 AM To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango Why are you doing all new links with SAF is the question being asked here. I'm actually deciding on Trango vs SAF right now. Once I start with one vendor I want to stick with it for all future links to reduce the different spares. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:44 AM, can...@believewireless.netmailto:can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.netmailto:p...@believewireless.net wrote: All things equal, SAF has a 5 year warranty and fantastic tech support. We have both Trango and SAF in our network and now all new links are SAF exclusively. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango
Yikes, That doesn't sound good from DragonWave's perspective. At $5k, that is nearly the cost for the entire radio path, (not counting antennas, PONE, etc) Can't imagine why they would charge such a price. Were you working directly with DragonWave or through a vendor? We do most of our DragonWave purchasing through Tessco. Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 11:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango We've used a few Trango, no SAF, and one Dragonwave. We had one of the Trango units recieve a near-lightning strike, which completely killed it. We sent it in, and they fixed it for $600, (out of warranty). We put it back up, and it failed about six months later. We sent it in, and we had it back fixed from Trango under warranty, (since they had just repaired it six month before), in four business days. Their support so far seems pretty quick, and $600 for a lightning repair seems reasonable. Dragonwave was a total pain. The link was a fair amount more expensive than Trango, and when the ODU broke out-of-warranty, they told us we had to buy a new ODU -- for $5,000. It's now sitting out in my warehouse, has been for over a year. Still don't know why that ODU broke, they just said it was bad. I still think that the whole licensed link scene is a bit overpriced. I'd put them up like hotcakes if we could do 250mbps for $5k, installed. But, then, so would everyone else. Kevin - Original Message - From: Kevin Owenmailto:ko...@fsr.com To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango At First Step we started deploying DragonWave units long ago and in an effort to keep the network somewhat consistent, we have been installing them ever since. (~ 100 paths installed) We have been very happy with the product and support. I am curious for those of you that are evaluating Trango vs. SAF, have you considered DragonWave? If you have ruled them out can you share why? They do only have a one year standard warranty but when we evaluated bids for large project a few years ago, the vendor for SAF at the time was only offering a 3 year standard warranty. Thanks, Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 6:49 AM To: can...@believewireless.netmailto:can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango Why are you doing all new links with SAF is the question being asked here. I'm actually deciding on Trango vs SAF right now. Once I start with one vendor I want to stick with it for all future links to reduce the different spares. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:44 AM, can...@believewireless.netmailto:can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.netmailto:p...@believewireless.net wrote: All things equal, SAF has a 5 year warranty and fantastic tech support. We have both Trango and SAF in our network and now all new links are SAF exclusively. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] FW: New Broadband Public Notice has been Published
I know everyone (most everyone) is at WISPAPALOOSA and I suspect having a great time. I wanted to forward the following notice along to everyone is case you don't or haven't seen this. In this case it appears a rural power coop is filing and has applied for some RUS funding to build out some broadband. I haven't actually seen the filing yet, just this public notice. If you are currently serving the area, this is your chance to reply and let the RUS know you have it covered. Kevin -Original Message- From: rd.broadb...@wdc.usda.gov [mailto:rd.broadb...@wdc.usda.gov] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 5:40 AM To: Kevin Owen Subject: New Broadband Public Notice has been Published A new Public Notice Filing has been published based on the submission of a new loan application to the RUS Broadband Loan and Loan Guarantee Program. To view click on http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/LegalNoticeFiling/View.aspx?LegalNoticeFilingId=44633ba2-bbad-4204-9854-6f8440f2ce1b If you wish to unsubscribe to this notification system, please click on http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/Subscription/Initiate.aspx?action=cancel Sincerely, The Rural Utilities Service (RUS) ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] State mapping agency access
We are just now starting to use the product for Washington and Idaho. When those get added we will definitely make the information available to the State mapping folks. Thanks, Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:32 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] State mapping agency access For those of you using towercoverage.com for your coverage mapping, please go into your multi-coverage map. Click the edit button and check the box to allow state agencies access to your map. They will not be able to get your map unless you opt in to allow it. We also urge you to make your map publicly viewable. This will allow folks that do an address search for service to find your company on http://towercoverage.com/northamericamap.asp We have set up back end accounts for the below states and are adding more daily. This will allow the agency to download your coverage maps for use on the national broadband map. It will help in preventing the 500lb gorilla from getting grant money to come into your area and compete. Alaska Iowa Michigan Minnesota Nevada Ohio Puerto Rico South Carolina Tennessee Texas Florida Georgia Louisiana The following states will be added in the next day or so: New York Maine Jim Patient Link Technologies, Inc. 314-735-0270 x102 http://wlan1.com http://towercoverage.comhttp://towercoverage.com/ http://www.linktechs.nethttp://www.linktechs.net/ [cid:image001.png@01CD7C8D.51D774C0] inline: image001.png___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] pipe piers
Does anybody have a good source for pipe piers? These are the blocks that you would lay on a flat roof to support your conduit, etc. We have typically made our own by cutting and drilling square PVC, then mounting clips to them. I am looking for something premade that we can simply purchase and use. Thanks, Kevin ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Off Grid Power Bid RFQ
First Step Internet, LLC is now seeking bids for an off grid power solution. Please refer to the bid document for further information. The bid document can be found at http://btop.fsr.com/DrawVendors.aspx?VendorID=14 The bids are due by 4/2/2012. Please refer all questions to b...@fsr.com. Kevin Owen ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Cable CMTS
We are expanding our cable internet markets by acquisition. We are currently using C9 CMTS's at the head end in each community. We chose these since we need to be able to bridge PPPoE for authentication. None of the communities are very large so we don't need high customer count capabilities on the CMTS, what we do need is bridging. Is anybody using a small CMTS for their cable internet services other than a C9? We would be interested in exploring other options. Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cable CMTS
I think we would like the Cisco better as well… however I don’t believe they can bridge for the pppoe passthrough. If they can then we will re-evaluate. Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 5:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable CMTS We have an older C9...one of the first models I believe. We had issues with it have since replaced it with a refurbished Cisco uBR7200. We like the Cisco much better. -- Blake Covarrubias On Nov 8, 2011, at 14:49, Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.commailto:ko...@fsr.com wrote: We are expanding our cable internet markets by acquisition. We are currently using C9 CMTS’s at the head end in each community. We chose these since we need to be able to bridge PPPoE for authentication. None of the communities are very large so we don’t need high customer count capabilities on the CMTS, what we do need is bridging. Is anybody using a small CMTS for their cable internet services other than a C9? We would be interested in exploring other options. Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Solar DragonWaves
Is anybody doing solar repeated DragonWave site? We need to do a repeated DragonWave site on a mountain top with no access to power. It is going to have to be a combination of solar and propane for the winters. Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] MT 411 board repair
Is there anybody that is doing Ethernet repairs on 411 boards? The problem we are having is the board powers over the Ethernet, and claims a 10meg link but no data will pass. Forcing another data rate does no good either. Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] mounting bracket for power supply
Maybe someone on the list has a good source for the following... We are looking for some sort of a mounting bracket for a power supply. (Happens to be for a DragonWave radio) The power supply is 6x1.25x2.75. We have a client that wants the power supplies placed in a sleeve or otherwise mounted to the wall. We have typically used zip ties or plumbers tape. They want them more secured than with a simple strap across them holding them to the wall. Does anybody have a source for such a thing? Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Wispalooza - Floor Passes
Rick, Will there be exhibit only floor passes available for purchase at the event or do they need to be purchased ahead of time? Also, just as a note, last Saturday, the Margaritaville Casino opened at the Flamingo. It is a fairly small extension off the main floor, but if you like a bit of gambling and like to show your inner Parrothead, then this is your place! Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wispalooza - Floor Passes
Very good thanks. Spent a bit of time and lost a bit of money in Margaritaville on its opening. Still a fun place though Looking forward to the show. See you all there. Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 10:37 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispalooza - Floor Passes Yes, Exhibit Hall only passes will be available at the registration counter for $50. I would prefer to get them done before time so we can have the name badges printed up and the financial details taken care of to streamline the signup period at the counter. The registration counter will be open on Sunday afternoon and evening, so I encourage people to avoid the early Monday morning rush and get it taken care of then. It should be a matter of getting your lanyard, nametag and showbag unless you are purchasing a registration at the counter. Yes, Margaritaville is right down the hall from the Exhibit Hall. New hallway has been opened up. Maybe only 50-100' away. Rick From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Owen Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 1:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Wispalooza - Floor Passes Rick, Will there be exhibit only floor passes available for purchase at the event or do they need to be purchased ahead of time? Also, just as a note, last Saturday, the Margaritaville Casino opened at the Flamingo. It is a fairly small extension off the main floor, but if you like a bit of gambling and like to show your inner Parrothead, then this is your place! Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] MT SXT's
We just received our first shipment of the SXT's. While they are certainly very interesting, I am concerned about the ability to weatherproof the little door on the bottom. Have I missed a previous discussion about these units and the weatherproofing of them? Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT SXT's
Excellent, that is great to hear. I take it that you aren't doing anything other than closing the door and keeping the cable routed down. No additional weather proofing of the door? We are in a definite snow and rain zone so just a bit concerned. We are going to hang a couple later this week and just wanted to hear from others. I appreciate it. FCC cert = TV7SXT-5d Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT SXT's Do they have a FCC Cert? On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: We have had them up for quite some time, no issues yet. Great performance. J --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Owen Sent: March 30, 2011 3:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] MT SXT's We just received our first shipment of the SXT's. While they are certainly very interesting, I am concerned about the ability to weatherproof the little door on the bottom. Have I missed a previous discussion about these units and the weatherproofing of them? Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Inventory Management
What if anything is everybody using for inventory management of your various equipment products? We are beginning to carry more stock for items/projects but we need a way to track and account for inventory. Is anybody else dealing with this? Kevin First Step Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole?
Thanks for link. I should be able to find something there. Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 6:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole? What about a flag pole? http://www.flagpolewarehouse.com/flagpoles/commercial/index.shtml On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.commailto:ko...@fsr.com wrote: Other than a wooden utility pole, does anyone have a source for a direct bury steel pole, such as those you would see used for street lights, etc? I have a need for a client to be up ~30' for a single 1' dish. That will be the only thing ever on the pole, so it won't be loaded. It can't be guyed, and they would prefer not Rohn or other lattice structure for aesthetics. We have been asked to use something like a streetlight pole. We have never used such a pole. Has anyone used one and do you have a source for the pole? Kevin First Step Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] direct bury pole?
Other than a wooden utility pole, does anyone have a source for a direct bury steel pole, such as those you would see used for street lights, etc? I have a need for a client to be up ~30' for a single 1' dish. That will be the only thing ever on the pole, so it won't be loaded. It can't be guyed, and they would prefer not Rohn or other lattice structure for aesthetics. We have been asked to use something like a streetlight pole. We have never used such a pole. Has anyone used one and do you have a source for the pole? Kevin First Step Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole?
Right, my example was only to envision the type or size of pole being used, as say opposed to a direct bury mono-pole that is familiar to many of us and way too large for this application. Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 7:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole? I believe streetlights are mounted onto a concrete base, not directly buried. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 9:37 AM, Kevin Owen wrote: Other than a wooden utility pole, does anyone have a source for a direct bury steel pole, such as those you would see used for street lights, etc? I have a need for a client to be up ~30' for a single 1' dish. That will be the only thing ever on the pole, so it won't be loaded. It can't be guyed, and they would prefer not Rohn or other lattice structure for aesthetics. We have been asked to use something like a streetlight pole. We have never used such a pole. Has anyone used one and do you have a source for the pole? Kevin First Step Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks?
Interesting, do you have a link to any information about the State Ed network? Sounds like one I should chase down. Are you a CLEC or any other such entity or like me, a WISP that has built their business by providing quality service to rural parts of the State? Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks? Not so in Illinois, which proclaims itself to be, the largest and most successful state network of its kind in the nation. They have a form to apply with and I am in the process now. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:17 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] State Education Networks? The State I provide service in (Idaho) is in the process of building a Statewide Educational Network. I am interested in hearing from any of you are providing service in a State that has built a State Educational Network and if so, are local providers used to provide any of the last miles services to the schools? Idaho started by saying they would work with the local providers, however, now they have changed their tune and local providers are not given the opportunity to even bid on the service. Qwest is charging at least 3 - 5 times what any of the other local ISP's could or would charge for the same or more bandwidth. We are simply told we are not able to provide the service due to technical reasons, however, the State thus far has not defined what those technical reasons are. The difference in cost per year is in the millions. Our State IT group is also saying this is how it is done in other states to provide a quality and cost effective network. So does anybody provide any last mile services to any Statewide educational network? Thanks, Kevin First Step Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks?
Have you ever been able to compare your pricing to that of their commercial network? My pricing is easily 50% of Qwest's inflated pricing. Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sylvester Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks? In California, the educational institutions formed an organization called The Corporation for Education Network Initiatives in California (CENIC) http://www.cenic.org/. CENIC designed, built and operates a fiber network that connects to public and private K-20 institutions. They claim that the cost to connect to their network is 50% of comparable commercial networks. Tim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Owen Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] State Education Networks? The State I provide service in (Idaho) is in the process of building a Statewide Educational Network. I am interested in hearing from any of you are providing service in a State that has built a State Educational Network and if so, are local providers used to provide any of the last miles services to the schools? Idaho started by saying they would work with the local providers, however, now they have changed their tune and local providers are not given the opportunity to even bid on the service. Qwest is charging at least 3 - 5 times what any of the other local ISP's could or would charge for the same or more bandwidth. We are simply told we are not able to provide the service due to technical reasons, however, the State thus far has not defined what those technical reasons are. The difference in cost per year is in the millions. Our State IT group is also saying this is how it is done in other states to provide a quality and cost effective network. So does anybody provide any last mile services to any Statewide educational network? Thanks, Kevin First Step Internet, LLC --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks?
Marlon, I assume you are asking that question of me. While I can't speak for my State representatives, they have been very engaged in the discussion and are asking some difficult questions of the State Admin / IT. It isn't yet clear what if anything can be done about this now, but it appears the ongoing funding for the project may be in jeopardy. Lots of heated discussions seem to be occurring at the State Capitol over this issue. Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 7:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks? What does your local congressman have to say about this? marlon - Original Message - From: Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:17 PM Subject: [WISPA] State Education Networks? The State I provide service in (Idaho) is in the process of building a Statewide Educational Network. I am interested in hearing from any of you are providing service in a State that has built a State Educational Network and if so, are local providers used to provide any of the last miles services to the schools? Idaho started by saying they would work with the local providers, however, now they have changed their tune and local providers are not given the opportunity to even bid on the service. Qwest is charging at least 3 - 5 times what any of the other local ISP's could or would charge for the same or more bandwidth. We are simply told we are not able to provide the service due to technical reasons, however, the State thus far has not defined what those technical reasons are. The difference in cost per year is in the millions. Our State IT group is also saying this is how it is done in other states to provide a quality and cost effective network. So does anybody provide any last mile services to any Statewide educational network? Thanks, Kevin First Step Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks?
Funny thing, ENA is the company out here that is partnered with Qwest to provide the management and ERATE funding applications. They are getting a fixed $1,047/school/month for their services. That is going to total ~$1.5million/year for management. Unbelievable. I think Qwest and ENA are partnering up all over the country to provide this sort of service. It should be criminal the amount of money that is being charged to ERATE and the tax payers when other more competitive options are available. They get away with the overcharging to ERATE by writing an RFP that only Qwest and ENA can win and then the schools are protected from the typical competitive bidding for the ERATE jobs. Perhaps we should write and file formal complaints with the FCC concerning the overcharging for services. Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 8:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks? In Indiana it's even more interesting. The state bid out control of the state networks years ago and a Tennessee Company ENA.com won and now controls all the public school network funding. We have 5 School corp.'s in the county and I have networks towers within a mile from each. But since I am not a telco or supply a fiber line they get each of the school's 2-5 T1's from Verizon @ $485/ T1. I offered a 10meg connection to each interconnecting all the schools and I cant even get a call back from ENA. Talking to the local schools just gets a phone number to call ENA. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Owen Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] State Education Networks? The State I provide service in (Idaho) is in the process of building a Statewide Educational Network. I am interested in hearing from any of you are providing service in a State that has built a State Educational Network and if so, are local providers used to provide any of the last miles services to the schools? Idaho started by saying they would work with the local providers, however, now they have changed their tune and local providers are not given the opportunity to even bid on the service. Qwest is charging at least 3 - 5 times what any of the other local ISP's could or would charge for the same or more bandwidth. We are simply told we are not able to provide the service due to technical reasons, however, the State thus far has not defined what those technical reasons are. The difference in cost per year is in the millions. Our State IT group is also saying this is how it is done in other states to provide a quality and cost effective network. So does anybody provide any last mile services to any Statewide educational network? Thanks, Kevin First Step Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] State Education Networks?
The State I provide service in (Idaho) is in the process of building a Statewide Educational Network. I am interested in hearing from any of you are providing service in a State that has built a State Educational Network and if so, are local providers used to provide any of the last miles services to the schools? Idaho started by saying they would work with the local providers, however, now they have changed their tune and local providers are not given the opportunity to even bid on the service. Qwest is charging at least 3 - 5 times what any of the other local ISP's could or would charge for the same or more bandwidth. We are simply told we are not able to provide the service due to technical reasons, however, the State thus far has not defined what those technical reasons are. The difference in cost per year is in the millions. Our State IT group is also saying this is how it is done in other states to provide a quality and cost effective network. So does anybody provide any last mile services to any Statewide educational network? Thanks, Kevin First Step Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks?
Yes, we provided service to some WA schools many years ago when K-20 was formed. We still do some redundant service for schools. The difference is way back when K-20 came along, local ISP's really didn't have much of an ability to compete. Wireless was new and slow. It was hard to even compete with T-1's. That isn't the case now. We can provide more bandwidth, cheaper than the ILEC's can. It really just seems to be political. I am looking for a way to show the Legislators that other states have figured a way to work with the local providers. I heard the WA K-20 network was beginning to struggle. The Telcos haven't kept up with the bandwidth demand and again, local ISP's are able to deliver more bandwidth, cheaper. Are you seeing this in your market? By the way, where are you providing service? thanks for the reply. Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks? In WA state the K-20 is strictly telco. (Verizon Qwest). The WA-K-20 is pretty much a gold standard as far as educational networks goes. ryan On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com wrote: The State I provide service in (Idaho) is in the process of building a Statewide Educational Network. I am interested in hearing from any of you are providing service in a State that has built a State Educational Network and if so, are local providers used to provide any of the last miles services to the schools? Idaho started by saying they would work with the local providers, however, now they have changed their tune and local providers are not given the opportunity to even bid on the service. Qwest is charging at least 3 - 5 times what any of the other local ISP's could or would charge for the same or more bandwidth. We are simply told we are not able to provide the service due to technical reasons, however, the State thus far has not defined what those technical reasons are. The difference in cost per year is in the millions. Our State IT group is also saying this is how it is done in other states to provide a quality and cost effective network. So does anybody provide any last mile services to any Statewide educational network? Thanks, Kevin First Step Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks?
Hi Jack, Oh ya, the fix is in to be sure. I watered down the information to try and be brief and to the point. We have been fighting for a while and the standard seems to be constantly shifting. We, myself and other local ISP's, were just at the State Capitol yesterday in front of the Legislators and Administration to have a discussion. Today it was announced they were going to hold off on a decision to continue moving the budget forward until they can gather a bit more information. If you are interested, here is the newest of a growing number of articles about the situation. http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/03/11/1114092/idaho-agency-budget-delayed-amid.html Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks? Kevin, It sounds like the large corporate political fix may already be in but in politics nothing is ever final. I'd suggest getting together with some other local and regional ISPs and using publicity (responsibly) to hold the State's feet to the fire. You can use the financial bottom line to get the public's attention. Good luck, jack Kevin Owen wrote: The State I provide service in (Idaho) is in the process of building a Statewide Educational Network. I am interested in hearing from any of you are providing service in a State that has built a State Educational Network and if so, are local providers used to provide any of the last miles services to the schools? Idaho started by saying they would work with the local providers, however, now they have changed their tune and local providers are not given the opportunity to even bid on the service. Qwest is charging at least 3 - 5 times what any of the other local ISP's could or would charge for the same or more bandwidth. We are simply told we are not able to provide the service due to technical reasons, however, the State thus far has not defined what those technical reasons are. The difference in cost per year is in the millions. Our State IT group is also saying this is how it is done in other states to provide a quality and cost effective network. So does anybody provide any last mile services to any Statewide educational network? Thanks, Kevin First Step Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com If you are not a WISPA Member - What are you waiting for? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks?
Yes, that is the one. Syringa has a beef with the contract in general, mine is more about the last mile portion. I am very supportive of Syringa's position as well. They have long said they would work with the local providers to help put the network together. It is going to be very interesting to see what comes in the next week or so. If we could show the Legislators other States that have worked with local providers it would be very helpful. I guess either that, or other States where they didn't and the project did not deliver on its promises. Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of AJ Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks? Kevin - same network/bid conflict? http://www.newwest.net/city/article/syringa_sues_over_idaho_education_network_contract/C108/L108/ Syringa Sues Over Idaho Education Network Contract *Company awarded part of the IEN contract says its bid was better in the first place, and it's being shut out of the project. * On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Kevin, It sounds like the large corporate political fix may already be in but in politics nothing is ever final. I'd suggest getting together with some other local and regional ISPs and using publicity (responsibly) to hold the State's feet to the fire. You can use the financial bottom line to get the public's attention. Good luck, jack Kevin Owen wrote: The State I provide service in (Idaho) is in the process of building a Statewide Educational Network. I am interested in hearing from any of you are providing service in a State that has built a State Educational Network and if so, are local providers used to provide any of the last miles services to the schools? Idaho started by saying they would work with the local providers, however, now they have changed their tune and local providers are not given the opportunity to even bid on the service. Qwest is charging at least 3 - 5 times what any of the other local ISP's could or would charge for the same or more bandwidth. We are simply told we are not able to provide the service due to technical reasons, however, the State thus far has not defined what those technical reasons are. The difference in cost per year is in the millions. Our State IT group is also saying this is how it is done in other states to provide a quality and cost effective network. So does anybody provide any last mile services to any Statewide educational network? Thanks, Kevin First Step Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com If you are not a WISPA Member - What are you waiting for? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects
Can anyone else get to the searchable maps? The included link worked for me last Tuesday but not since. Kevin Owen First Step Internet, LLC -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 8:42 PM To: WISPA General List; motorola Canopy User Group Subject: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects Here is a link to maps of the projects: http://bit.ly/3p2be3 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
