Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Wow ! Think of the implications ?

2006-01-11 Thread Rob's list



I have one It works great.  I can watch my 
local news when I go to the inlaw's.  Of course I had to order them 
dsl.  sorry about that,but could not find a wireless provider
 
rob

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  Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:52 
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  of the implications ?
  
  Oh goody.  Something that'll make Napster's 
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[WISPA] verizon pension

2005-12-06 Thread Rob's list



any one hear that verizon is no longer contributing 
to their employee pensions.
it is the beginning of the end
 
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[WISPA] any one near yuma, az

2005-11-07 Thread Rob's list



I have a customer the stays in an  rv park and 
they have no wireless.  he is going to try to get the rv park to put in 
wireless for the rv's.
I you are near yuma let me know.
 
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[WISPA] wireless in yuma az?

2005-11-03 Thread Rob's list



any one have wireless  in yuma.  

 
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[WISPA] test

2005-09-20 Thread Rob's list

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[WISPA] test ignore

2005-09-20 Thread Rob's list



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Re: [WISPA] Restoring the Gulf Coast

2005-09-20 Thread Rob's list

John,

maybe, if you feel its alright, you could post some of your pictures.
so that others could see what you have seen.  It might just help everyone 
understand

the situation a little better.

rob


- Original Message - 
From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 6:48 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Restoring the Gulf Coast


I just got back last night from the gulf affected areas after helping crews 
establish Internet and phone service for use by evacuees and assistance 
staff. It looks like a thermo-nuclear device detonated on the gulf coast. 
Bay of St. Louis (across from Gulf port) is nothing but a landfill with 
bull-dozed paths through the debris to clear roadways. I cried, everyone 
cried, it was life altering. On television it is awful but you can go to 
the other room when you are watching on television. When you are there you 
cannot get away from it. I thought I was going to have an anxiety attack 
when I first got to Bay of St. Louis. You cannot smell or feel the sense of 
what it is like there unless you are actually there. I took pictures but 
wondered why. It was almost a sick feeling to photograph such devastation.


I came home last night and I still feel a little shell shocked. I am not 
right. I am definitely more right in the head than those who lived through 
the experience and those who have been there since day one. I don't know 
how people who are helping can last as long as they are. There are people 
there who have been helping non-stop for 2 weeks. I cannot imagine it. I 
spent four days helping and thought I was going to fall apart mentally and 
physically. I am not as strong as I thought I was. At least I did some 
good there. I am glad I went even though I will never be completely the 
same person ever again.

Scriv
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Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Rob&#x27;s list
what we really need is a big map,  in ross perot style.  showing the areas 
wisps have reconnected currently and planned in the next 2 weeks.
we need a chart or slide with how many voip calls have been completed. How 
many people have been connected/reunited. How many sqare miles are covered.
any fact with big impressive numbers. Bullet points with how nimble and 
quickly a small group can act.  Thinks what the wisps could do with the 400 
million that the telcos are going to spend.  I don't know if this 
presentation is about fund the rebuild,  but if it is we need to point out 
what could be done with more support from the fcc.  with out sounding like 
we are whining.


just some thoughts

rob
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To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 1:24 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams 
ForFCCPresentation on Thursday





I agree that a wireless feed is not appropriate under normal situations 
but
that's not what we're talking about here. I would say using a wireless 
feed

to connect video down there (especially since all other communications are
down) would be a very powerful tool to tell the story of what is happening
and what you guys and our industry can offer. Brad




-Original Message-
From: rcomroe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 2:10 PM
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ForFCCPresentation on Thursday


Done a zillion remote meetings using streaming video/audio.  Not 
appropriate


for an FCC presentation.

Come on, guys.  The real issue is "what" is said, not "who" is saying it.
What you need to do is to have WISPA leadership collaborate with P-15
leadership to come to mutual agreement on "what" is presented.  That will
suit everyone's needs.  But beware: Do not settle for simply "providing
material" as a substitute.  Submitting material to another group to use or
not use as they see fit will not represent your interests, guaranteed.
What's called for is a collaboration and sign-off on what is presented. 
It

doesn't have to be face-to-face ... people remotely email revisions back &
forth on an every day, hour, or even minute basis in collaborative
construction.  This can work, only if there's someone in your group 
willing

to collaborate to make it happen (and both parties are willing to see that
it's accomplished).  The issue of "who" does the presentation may be set 
in

stone, but if both parties are willing to agree that "what" is presented
should be agreeable to both, it can happen.

Rich
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From: "Brad Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 12:40 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams
ForFCCPresentation on Thursday


Video stream Mac from the field into the FCC meetingBrad


-Original Message-
From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 1:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams
ForFCCPresentation on Thursday


John Scrivner wrote:

I know Matt has been away from home a bunch lately but I think we should
send Matt Larsen to this FCC event if he will go. We can take the $500
from Charles as part of the expense and have WISPA cover the rest. I
think we need a front line guy to speak at this event. I think we should
ask Michael to introduce Matt and yield a bit of his time if the FCC
will not grant Matt his own time. This shows unity between industry
groups and gives Part-15 and WISPA both an opportunity to show our
efforts in helping those in need. Thoughts?
Scriv



I agree that Matt would do well if he could find someone to talk to.
And he would be in the top of the list of people I would want to go to
Washington and represent us.

However, Marlon, if he has the time, has experience of "roaming the
halls of the FCC" looking for someone to talk to.

Maybe Marlon would be a better choice in this instance?

WISPA hasn't been formally invited to talk to the FCC people, so the
person that goes will need to cold call, which might be difficult to do.

I think this is the perfect time to talk to Washington, and make sure or
reinforce that it was WISPA  quick actions that got phone, broadband,
and computers into the hands of the displaced. Mac Dearman and WISPA
were "First Responders"

We need to make sure that we get this credit  right away. As time passes
on, a lot will be forgotten and it will be much harder to get the type
of exposure we now deserve.

It would also be good to sometime in the future have a special trip to
Washington for the member wisps of wispa who were effected and those who
volunteered the time and effort to be quick responders.
Guys like Mac need to be recognized for their quick actions, especially
in light of how slow it took the government to respond.


Just my thou

Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane ReliefWISP Teams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Rob&#x27;s list
maybe someone from wispa could go along and just be introduced.  Maybe some 
one that has had face time with the fcc already.


rob
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From: "rcomroe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane ReliefWISP Teams 
ForFCCPresentation on Thursday



Done a zillion remote meetings using streaming video/audio.  Not appropriate
for an FCC presentation.

Come on, guys.  The real issue is "what" is said, not "who" is saying it.
What you need to do is to have WISPA leadership collaborate with P-15
leadership to come to mutual agreement on "what" is presented.  That will
suit everyone's needs.  But beware: Do not settle for simply "providing
material" as a substitute.  Submitting material to another group to use or
not use as they see fit will not represent your interests, guaranteed.
What's called for is a collaboration and sign-off on what is presented.  It
doesn't have to be face-to-face ... people remotely email revisions back &
forth on an every day, hour, or even minute basis in collaborative
construction.  This can work, only if there's someone in your group willing
to collaborate to make it happen (and both parties are willing to see that
it's accomplished).  The issue of "who" does the presentation may be set in
stone, but if both parties are willing to agree that "what" is presented
should be agreeable to both, it can happen.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Brad Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 12:40 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams
ForFCCPresentation on Thursday


Video stream Mac from the field into the FCC meetingBrad


-Original Message-
From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 1:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams
ForFCCPresentation on Thursday


John Scrivner wrote:

I know Matt has been away from home a bunch lately but I think we should
send Matt Larsen to this FCC event if he will go. We can take the $500
from Charles as part of the expense and have WISPA cover the rest. I
think we need a front line guy to speak at this event. I think we should
ask Michael to introduce Matt and yield a bit of his time if the FCC
will not grant Matt his own time. This shows unity between industry
groups and gives Part-15 and WISPA both an opportunity to show our
efforts in helping those in need. Thoughts?
Scriv



I agree that Matt would do well if he could find someone to talk to.
And he would be in the top of the list of people I would want to go to
Washington and represent us.

However, Marlon, if he has the time, has experience of "roaming the
halls of the FCC" looking for someone to talk to.

Maybe Marlon would be a better choice in this instance?

WISPA hasn't been formally invited to talk to the FCC people, so the
person that goes will need to cold call, which might be difficult to do.

I think this is the perfect time to talk to Washington, and make sure or
reinforce that it was WISPA  quick actions that got phone, broadband,
and computers into the hands of the displaced. Mac Dearman and WISPA
were "First Responders"

We need to make sure that we get this credit  right away. As time passes
on, a lot will be forgotten and it will be much harder to get the type
of exposure we now deserve.

It would also be good to sometime in the future have a special trip to
Washington for the member wisps of wispa who were effected and those who
volunteered the time and effort to be quick responders.
Guys like Mac need to be recognized for their quick actions, especially
in light of how slow it took the government to respond.


Just my thoughts.

George
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Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISPTeams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Rob&#x27;s list

Great Idea

rob

I know Matt has been away from home a bunch lately but I think we should 
send Matt Larsen to this FCC event if he will go. We can take the $500 
from Charles as part of the expense and have WISPA cover the rest. I 
think we need a front line guy to speak at this event. I think we should 
ask Michael to introduce Matt and yield a bit of his time if the FCC 
will not grant Matt his own time. This shows unity between industry 
groups and gives Part-15 and WISPA both an opportunity to show our 
efforts in helping those in need. Thoughts?

Scriv


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Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP TeamsForFCCPresentation on Thursday

2005-09-13 Thread Rob&#x27;s list
do the baby bells  belong to one industry organization.  Lots of industries 
have multiple industry associations. I bet the bells will each get 5 
minutes.
don't worry too much about who gets credit.  just get the opinions in.  If 
p15 doesn't do a good job of getting to point accross we will all look bad. 
But Mr Anderson will look worse.  So give him a shot.


rob

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From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:10 AM
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TeamsForFCCPresentation on Thursday




Congratulations Charles, so now we have a "little Wu"  I'm sure you're a
proud father.  That's great.

I'm not trying to start an argument here but WISPA was not invited to 
attend

this function.  We received very late notice about the conference call two
weeks ago and none of us caught it in time.  Because of that missed
conference call, Part-15 submitted a plan to the FCC and became one of the
"approved vendors".  It is my understanding that this open commission
meeting is to allow those vendors to tell their story.

Each vendor has five minutes to give a short presentation.  Would the FCC
allow another slot for WISPA?  I'm not sure, maybe Marlon would have 
insight
into this.  The next question is:  Do we want to portray a divided 
industry

with Part-15 and WISPA taking credit for the same work?  Michael has asked
the WISPA board to provide him with bullet points of what we have
accomplished this week.  He given his word to portray WISPA as an 
important

contributor in the efforts of this week and last week.  He is very aware
that the Mac Dearman team has been aligned much closer to WISPA than 
Part-15

and he realizes the damage he will do to his own reputation if he labels
this effort as a Part-15 project.

I am unable to make this trip myself even with Charles great contribution.
I have been burning the candle at both ends the last two weeks and have
plans to go help Mac's Team this weekend.  I have been accumulating a
truckload of supplies, computers, monitors, etc. from my local community
this week.  If WISPA needs to have a representative in Washington on
Thursday, I suggest someone step up.  I don't believe it necessarily needs
to be a board member.  Mac would be great, but do we really want to ask 
him
to do more than he already is?  Matt Larsen would be great as well, so 
would

Marlon.  We will need to get on the agenda right away if someone is
committed to do this.

I have been communicating with Michael a lot lately and I believe I have
convinced him that part of his frustration in getting assistance has been
because his first several press releases focused most of the attention on
Part-15.  He IS GETTING BETTER now.  He took on a huge project, one that 
is

bigger than any one man can handle himself.  He has assigned volunteers to
help lead different aspects of his plan.  If you really look at it, 
Michael
took the reigns of a "no win" task.  I know I appreciate his willingness 
to
do this..I recognized that I didn't have the time to do it right now 
and

thus recommended that WISPA throw our support behind his effort to
consolidate resources and give the public a view of a stronger effort.

So, Michael has been burdened with this huge project and now has a 
competing

association board and members to deal with at the same time.  He not only
has to organize the effort but he has to try to keep the WISPA members 
happy

at the same time.  Sound impossible?  It does to me!  The real fact is,
Michael Anderson has done a trememdous amount for our industry in the last 
5
years.  Not everything he does is approved by everyone, how can it be. 
Heck
that is why WISPA got started in the first place.  Is WISPA perfect, no 
way,
we get criticized all the time for different things.  Face it, our 
industry
is a group of rather independent thinkers and businessmen that want to 
prove

that they can do it on their own.  We are all leaders in our own minds, we
bring solutions to people everyday that make their lives better.

I personally think it is time for the Part-15 leadership and the WISPA
leadership to unite our efforts or our fragmented industry will crumble a
slow death.  For some that means swallowing some "crow", but if we truly
care about the industry and our future, we need to open our eyes, 
recognize
our weaknesses and other's strengths and combine these resources to create 
a

powerful team.

Ok, flame away!  :P

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Charles Wu
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 5:53 AM
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ForFCCPresentation on Thursday

I agree w/ Alex and will take this one step further

Mike h

Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower

2005-08-22 Thread Rob&#x27;s list



boy are we lucky out here in rural america.  I 
can get 1 yard tacked on to someone elses load for the regular per yard 
price.  but its like that in a small town
 
rob

  - Original Message - 
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  DeReggi 
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  Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:52 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
  
  >I think you have to get something like 7 yards to avoid all the 
  charges and fees for the truck.  
   
  Yeah, but bad back for the month, costs more. 
  :-(
   
  Tom DeReggiRapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
   
  IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
  
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From: 
Brian 
Rohrbacher 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 1:13 
AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX 
Tower
I think you have to get something like 7 yards to avoid all 
the charges and fees for the truck.  I guess I'll let you guys know in 
2 months how it went.  My brother does concrete for a living, so I hope 
to cut it down to 1 month because I have a "pro" working for me.  
:)JohnnyO wrote: 
2ft wide x 4ft long x 4ft deep There you go !

You will need 2.4cubic yards of concrete - which means - approx 220 80lb
sacks of ready mix - Call in a cement truck for this... You'll be mixing
for 2 months by hand :)

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 11:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower


Found it.  But now I don't understand exactly how big my hole needs to
be.

http://www.wb0w.com/shelby/BXCBS1.htm

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

  
  As close as I get is the info on page 9 and 10.  All I want is the
dumb thing to say "dig a hole this by this for a 40 footer."  I still 
have no idea how big of a hole I need.


A. Huppenthal wrote:


The trouble with mixing your own cement is that there's *never*
really enough. Do a 4 x 4 foot pad that's 5 feet deep and you've got 
lots of concrete. If a cement truck is not an option, rent a mixer. 
Don't skimp on the plug, it's really hard to add concrete later.. :-)


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

  
  That one has 7 sections and mine has 5.  I never found the specs for
base.  I'll keep looking.

Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:


http://bold98.org/gallery/ProjectsTower

Please read this and the manual from the site.  You do not have 
nearly enough concrete for the base.

Lonnie

On 8/21/05, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

  
  I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn

  
  

  

  bx tower.  It is 5 sections of 8 ft.  I just got 15 bags of 
portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about 
three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the 
tower legs to.  I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 
inches so they can't move.  I've got some re-bar to chuck down in 
the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 
bare stranded wire.  I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts,
washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to 
the pipe stubs.  Anyone have any suggestions
for me?  This is my first tower.  I will pour tomorrow afternoon.

brian


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[WISPA] test ignore my apologies

2005-08-22 Thread Rob&#x27;s list



testing sorry email server trouble
 
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Re: [WISPA] REMINDER! Deadline Nearing.

2005-08-22 Thread Rob&#x27;s list



test

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: 'WISPA General List' ; 'Principal WISPA Member 
  List' ; isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com 
  ; 'Indiana WISP 
  Discussion' 
  Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 8:43 
  AM
  Subject: [WISPA] REMINDER! Deadline 
  Nearing.
  
  
  The 
  Deadline to submit the MANDANTORY FCC broadband reporting form 477 is 
  September 1st.  
  
   
  http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/data.html
   
  The form can be downloaded 
  at:
   
  http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html#477
   
  The Report and Order dated 11/04 
  is found at:
   
  http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-04-266A1.pdf
   
   
  Fines 
  can be assessed to anyone who provides broadband services and does not submit 
  this form.  
  
   
  Don’t procrastinate any longer, it 
  may take one of your employees several days to complete the form the first 
  time they do it.  We completed it 
  in March so this time wasn’t as bad.
   
  Respectfully,
   
  Rick 
  Harnish
  President
  OnlyInternet 
  Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
  260-827-2482 
  Office
  260-307-4000 
  Cell
  260-918-4340 
  VoIP
  www.oibw.net
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
    
  
   
  
   
  
  

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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Rick Harnish 
  To: 'WISPA General List' ; 'Principal WISPA Member 
  List' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  ; 'Indiana WISP 
  Discussion' 
  Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 8:43 
  AM
  Subject: [WISPA] REMINDER! Deadline 
  Nearing.
  
  
  The 
  Deadline to submit the MANDANTORY FCC broadband reporting form 477 is 
  September 1st.  
  
   
  http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/data.html
   
  The form can be downloaded 
  at:
   
  http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html#477
   
  The Report and Order dated 11/04 
  is found at:
   
  http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-04-266A1.pdf
   
   
  Fines 
  can be assessed to anyone who provides broadband services and does not submit 
  this form.  
  
   
  Don’t procrastinate any longer, it 
  may take one of your employees several days to complete the form the first 
  time they do it.  We completed it 
  in March so this time wasn’t as bad.
   
  Respectfully,
   
  Rick 
  Harnish
  President
  OnlyInternet 
  Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
  260-827-2482 
  Office
  260-307-4000 
  Cell
  260-918-4340 
  VoIP
  www.oibw.net
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
    
  
   
  
   
  
  

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