Re: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system
I was thinking more along the lines of better physical isolation between the two systems :-) marlon - Original Message - From: Chadd Thompson To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:53 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system Yeah more power will fix it.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. SchaferSent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:51 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system Get them a bigger antenna at that site so that they can have better coverage there. And/or put in a band pass filter for them. marlon - Original Message - From: chris cooper To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:33 AM Subject: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system A rural water district cuts through the center of our network. Their automatic meter reading system operates on 916.5 at @ ½ db. They are having problems reading meters near one of our cells that sits 2 Mhz off them. That was the only slot available on that tower, so we cant really move without major disruption. Their system only works on 916.5 Has anyone had to work through this? If you have can you hit me offlist? Im interested in what compromise was worked out. Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system
More power fixes everything!!! Chadd Thompson wrote: Yeah more power will fix it.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system Get them a bigger antenna at that site so that they can have better coverage there. And/or put in a band pass filter for them. marlon - Original Message - From: chris cooper To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:33 AM Subject: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system A rural water district cuts through the center of our network. Their automatic meter reading system operates on 916.5 at @ ½ db. They are having problems reading meters near one of our cells that sits 2 Mhz off them. That was the only slot available on that tower, so we cant really move without major disruption. Their system only works on 916.5 Has anyone had to work through this? If you have can you hit me offlist? Im interested in what compromise was worked out. Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.1/421 - Release Date: 8/16/2006 -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system
Yeah more power will fix it.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system Get them a bigger antenna at that site so that they can have better coverage there. And/or put in a band pass filter for them. marlon - Original Message - From: chris cooper To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:33 AM Subject: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system A rural water district cuts through the center of our network. Their automatic meter reading system operates on 916.5 at @ ½ db. They are having problems reading meters near one of our cells that sits 2 Mhz off them. That was the only slot available on that tower, so we cant really move without major disruption. Their system only works on 916.5 Has anyone had to work through this? If you have can you hit me offlist? Im interested in what compromise was worked out. Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system
Get them a bigger antenna at that site so that they can have better coverage there. And/or put in a band pass filter for them. marlon - Original Message - From: chris cooper To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:33 AM Subject: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system A rural water district cuts through the center of our network. Their automatic meter reading system operates on 916.5 at @ ½ db. They are having problems reading meters near one of our cells that sits 2 Mhz off them. That was the only slot available on that tower, so we cant really move without major disruption. Their system only works on 916.5 Has anyone had to work through this? If you have can you hit me offlist? Im interested in what compromise was worked out. Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system
Thats a thought, but rigging an HPOL omni @ 800' is a bit of a grind, not to mention the truck rolls and customer touches. We cant add more gear to that tower per the owner, only swap antenna for antenna. That rules out multiple sectors. c -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system Hi, We just had this exact problem last month. We switched from veritcal to horizontal on our AP and I think we fixed the problem. I haven't heard on their latest reading, so I'm not sure. Travis Microserv John Scrivner wrote: > Try flipping polarities of one of the systems if possible. If they use > point to point yagis, as I have seen often, then setting the water > company to a different polarity to you should be a simple fix. How > wide (in megahertz) is the bandwidth of their system? How wide is > yours? I know Waverider is 5.5 MHz wide. What are you using for 900 MHz? > Scriv > > > > CHUCK PROFITO wrote: > >> Tighten their antenna, or shield it >> >> >> >> *Chuck Profito * >> >> *209.988.7388* >> >> *CV-ACCESS, INC* >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] * >> >> */Providing High Speed /* >> >> */Broadband to Rural California/* >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *chris cooper >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:34 AM >> *To:* 'WISPA General List' >> *Subject:* [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system >> >> >> >> A rural water district cuts through the center of our network. Their >> automatic meter reading system operates on 916.5 at @ ½ db. They are >> having problems reading meters near one of our cells that sits 2 Mhz >> off them. That was the only slot available on that tower, so we cant >> really move without major disruption. Their system only works on >> 916.5 Has anyone had to work through this? If you have can you hit >> me offlist? Im interested in what compromise was worked out. >> >> >> >> Chris >> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/419 - Release Date: 8/15/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system
Chris, You might also consider band pass or notch filters on either your equipment or theirs or both. This usually can clean up any off channel interference but does come at a price in line losses. They are not cheap for good products either. Technically neither of you have protection against interference by the rules but obviously you are trying to do the smart thing and avoid problems. Try contacting the vendor of their equipment and preferably the ones who did their install and explain the situation. They may have run in to similar problems and have some options to try. Remember to smile to whole time and act friendly...:-) Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com -Original Message-From: chris cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 2:34 PMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system A rural water district cuts through the center of our network. Their automatic meter reading system operates on 916.5 at @ ½ db. They are having problems reading meters near one of our cells that sits 2 Mhz off them. That was the only slot available on that tower, so we cant really move without major disruption. Their system only works on 916.5 Has anyone had to work through this? If you have can you hit me offlist? Im interested in what compromise was worked out. Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system
CHUCK PROFITO wrote: Tighten their antenna, or shield it Hi Chuck "Profit"O :) You have a very envious name... George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system
Hi, We just had this exact problem last month. We switched from veritcal to horizontal on our AP and I think we fixed the problem. I haven't heard on their latest reading, so I'm not sure. Travis Microserv John Scrivner wrote: Try flipping polarities of one of the systems if possible. If they use point to point yagis, as I have seen often, then setting the water company to a different polarity to you should be a simple fix. How wide (in megahertz) is the bandwidth of their system? How wide is yours? I know Waverider is 5.5 MHz wide. What are you using for 900 MHz? Scriv CHUCK PROFITO wrote: Tighten their antenna, or shield it *Chuck Profito * *209.988.7388* *CV-ACCESS, INC* [EMAIL PROTECTED] * */Providing High Speed /* */Broadband to Rural California/* -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *chris cooper *Sent:* Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:34 AM *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system A rural water district cuts through the center of our network. Their automatic meter reading system operates on 916.5 at @ ½ db. They are having problems reading meters near one of our cells that sits 2 Mhz off them. That was the only slot available on that tower, so we cant really move without major disruption. Their system only works on 916.5 Has anyone had to work through this? If you have can you hit me offlist? Im interested in what compromise was worked out. Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system
Try flipping polarities of one of the systems if possible. If they use point to point yagis, as I have seen often, then setting the water company to a different polarity to you should be a simple fix. How wide (in megahertz) is the bandwidth of their system? How wide is yours? I know Waverider is 5.5 MHz wide. What are you using for 900 MHz? Scriv CHUCK PROFITO wrote: Tighten their antenna, or shield it *Chuck Profito * *209.988.7388* *CV-ACCESS, INC* [EMAIL PROTECTED] * */Providing High Speed /* */Broadband to Rural California/* -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *chris cooper *Sent:* Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:34 AM *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system A rural water district cuts through the center of our network. Their automatic meter reading system operates on 916.5 at @ ½ db. They are having problems reading meters near one of our cells that sits 2 Mhz off them. That was the only slot available on that tower, so we cant really move without major disruption. Their system only works on 916.5 Has anyone had to work through this? If you have can you hit me offlist? Im interested in what compromise was worked out. Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system
Tighten their antenna, or shield it Chuck Profito 209.988.7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:34 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system A rural water district cuts through the center of our network. Their automatic meter reading system operates on 916.5 at @ ½ db. They are having problems reading meters near one of our cells that sits 2 Mhz off them. That was the only slot available on that tower, so we cant really move without major disruption. Their system only works on 916.5 Has anyone had to work through this? If you have can you hit me offlist? Im interested in what compromise was worked out. Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 900 mhz AMS system
A rural water district cuts through the center of our network. Their automatic meter reading system operates on 916.5 at @ ½ db. They are having problems reading meters near one of our cells that sits 2 Mhz off them. That was the only slot available on that tower, so we cant really move without major disruption. Their system only works on 916.5 Has anyone had to work through this? If you have can you hit me offlist? Im interested in what compromise was worked out. Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/