Re: [WISPA] AirGrids

2010-01-30 Thread Stuart Pierce
Having not seeing one in person, can't you just flip it 180* so the lights face 
down ? I take it the answer is no, but I was just wondering why.

-- Original Message --
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:01:05 -0500

Installing some UBNT AirGrids this weekend.   First thing I see is that when
I assemble for horizontal polarity the LED strip is now facing UP, as in
looking at the sky.  Not able to see the power light from the ground or any
RSSI.  Second issue, we all know the water issue with the new bullets,
getting in through the LED strip.  In horizontal, the strip is facing up.
Makes more sense to face it all down.  I also see a need to wrap with tape
where the feed and the feed support meet.  

 

Just first impressions. 

 

Bob-

 

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Re: [WISPA] AirGrids

2010-01-30 Thread Robert West
Well, first off I talked to Ben over at UBNT last night and he said they are
changing the design with the next batch so that the LEDs are down facing.

The issue is, there are two locking tabs that snap in for either horizontal
or vertical polarization so you are limited to how it's oriented.  The
antenna feed is one part and it snaps into the feed retainer that is
attached to the grid.  The retainer protrudes through the rear of the grid
and ends with the port for the Cat5 to enter and a couple of small drain
holes.  These are not on the very end but on a flat spot on the bottom of
the retainer.  Flip the antenna so that the LEDs are facing down then the
drain holes and Cat5 entry hole is now facing UP.  The old, Damned if you
do and damned if you don't

But they are fixing the issue.  One of those things they can't see unless
they are in the field.  I'm sure the lights being up made sense sitting in
an office looking at the thing from above.  If I'm looking at an antenna
from above, I'm either high up on a tower or I'm trying to install it in a
hole.  :)

I played with the 65 foot cable limit last night too.  Used a 100' cable and
the USB PoE will power it but just enough for the lights to come on, no
communication with it.  Tried a 9v, 12v and a 15v PoE.  9 and 12 worked fine
but the 15V made it yell at me.  I settled on a 9V injector and my test unit
has been working fine since last night.  Ben said the PoE they will be
offering as an option starts out at 5V.  I asked for a possible chart from
them on suggested voltage VS. cable length so we don't fry them out of trial
and error.  He mentioned they are working on design to allow it to use the
24v PoE...   I'm actually thinking of swapping out a pac grid and MT box
back haul from a solar site to see how the power drain is from these since
they require such a low voltage.

In all, I installed 2 last night and they were great!  The mounting hardware
is beefy and says quality.  The unit doesn't feel clunky at all, unlike
most of the Pac Wireless grids and the install went fast with the radio and
grid being just one unit.  The first install took a whole 20 minutes
including running the cable and drilling a hole.  Of course it was a cable
run of only 50 feet, not a big job, but was still quick.  

I'm sold on them.

Still gotta use the Mikrotik though, the Dude server rocks.

Bob-


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Stuart Pierce
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:13 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AirGrids

Having not seeing one in person, can't you just flip it 180* so the lights
face down ? I take it the answer is no, but I was just wondering why.

-- Original Message --
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:01:05 -0500

Installing some UBNT AirGrids this weekend.   First thing I see is that
when
I assemble for horizontal polarity the LED strip is now facing UP, as in
looking at the sky.  Not able to see the power light from the ground or any
RSSI.  Second issue, we all know the water issue with the new bullets,
getting in through the LED strip.  In horizontal, the strip is facing up.
Makes more sense to face it all down.  I also see a need to wrap with tape
where the feed and the feed support meet.  

 

Just first impressions. 

 

Bob-

 

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Re: [WISPA] AirGrids

2010-01-30 Thread Chuck Profito
Robert,  Did he mention if they might put some silicone in the holes before
labeling?

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
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Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:58 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] AirGrids

Well, first off I talked to Ben over at UBNT last night and he said they are
changing the design with the next batch so that the LEDs are down facing.

The issue is, there are two locking tabs that snap in for either horizontal
or vertical polarization so you are limited to how it's oriented.  The
antenna feed is one part and it snaps into the feed retainer that is
attached to the grid.  The retainer protrudes through the rear of the grid
and ends with the port for the Cat5 to enter and a couple of small drain
holes.  These are not on the very end but on a flat spot on the bottom of
the retainer.  Flip the antenna so that the LEDs are facing down then the
drain holes and Cat5 entry hole is now facing UP.  The old, Damned if you
do and damned if you don't

But they are fixing the issue.  One of those things they can't see unless
they are in the field.  I'm sure the lights being up made sense sitting in
an office looking at the thing from above.  If I'm looking at an antenna
from above, I'm either high up on a tower or I'm trying to install it in a
hole.  :)

I played with the 65 foot cable limit last night too.  Used a 100' cable and
the USB PoE will power it but just enough for the lights to come on, no
communication with it.  Tried a 9v, 12v and a 15v PoE.  9 and 12 worked fine
but the 15V made it yell at me.  I settled on a 9V injector and my test unit
has been working fine since last night.  Ben said the PoE they will be
offering as an option starts out at 5V.  I asked for a possible chart from
them on suggested voltage VS. cable length so we don't fry them out of trial
and error.  He mentioned they are working on design to allow it to use the
24v PoE...   I'm actually thinking of swapping out a pac grid and MT box
back haul from a solar site to see how the power drain is from these since
they require such a low voltage.

In all, I installed 2 last night and they were great!  The mounting hardware
is beefy and says quality.  The unit doesn't feel clunky at all, unlike
most of the Pac Wireless grids and the install went fast with the radio and
grid being just one unit.  The first install took a whole 20 minutes
including running the cable and drilling a hole.  Of course it was a cable
run of only 50 feet, not a big job, but was still quick.  

I'm sold on them.

Still gotta use the Mikrotik though, the Dude server rocks.

Bob-


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Stuart Pierce
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:13 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AirGrids

Having not seeing one in person, can't you just flip it 180* so the lights
face down ? I take it the answer is no, but I was just wondering why.

-- Original Message --
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:01:05 -0500

Installing some UBNT AirGrids this weekend.   First thing I see is that
when
I assemble for horizontal polarity the LED strip is now facing UP, as in
looking at the sky.  Not able to see the power light from the ground or any
RSSI.  Second issue, we all know the water issue with the new bullets,
getting in through the LED strip.  In horizontal, the strip is facing up.
Makes more sense to face it all down.  I also see a need to wrap with tape
where the feed and the feed support meet.  

 

Just first impressions. 

 

Bob-

 

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[WISPA] AirGrids

2010-01-29 Thread Robert West
Installing some UBNT AirGrids this weekend.   First thing I see is that when
I assemble for horizontal polarity the LED strip is now facing UP, as in
looking at the sky.  Not able to see the power light from the ground or any
RSSI.  Second issue, we all know the water issue with the new bullets,
getting in through the LED strip.  In horizontal, the strip is facing up.
Makes more sense to face it all down.  I also see a need to wrap with tape
where the feed and the feed support meet.  

 

Just first impressions. 

 

Bob-

 

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