Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread
We have RBS setup, the product as a whole is unrefined and cumbersome, but they do have some nice features. I haven't experimented with any other software, so I don't know what else is out there. Their BitBackup requires local storage of a database, so if you're backing up 50G of data for a customer, they better have an extra 50G of hard drive space for the local copy. We've just gone to selling them an external USB drive when they signup. As well as doing the initial dump to an external drive then copy it direct to the server when we get back to the office. -Kevin Neal -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 1:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread IMO stay as far away from remote-backup.com's product as possible. We bought into their front and it turned out to be a very unrefined product that was cumbersome to install on the customer side and their support was practically non-existent. I've heard of other people having success with RBS but we dropped it and wrote off our losses after much frustration. Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Another online backup thread I'm looking at remote-backup.com. It seems to be what I'm looking for, but I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there. It must not be cumbersome for either myself or the client. It must have encryption at all levels (transport and storage). It must have sold online backup in mind, not an enterprise backup program. It must work on Windows clients, hopefully Linux clients too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1937 - Release Date: 02/06/09 11:31:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Another online backup thread
I'm looking at remote-backup.com. It seems to be what I'm looking for, but I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there. It must not be cumbersome for either myself or the client. It must have encryption at all levels (transport and storage). It must have sold online backup in mind, not an enterprise backup program. It must work on Windows clients, hopefully Linux clients too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread
Mike Hammett wrote: I'm looking at remote-backup.com. It seems to be what I'm looking for, but I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there. What are you trying to do that Mozy doesn't do? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread
Put it on my server, not someone else's. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:43 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread Mike Hammett wrote: I'm looking at remote-backup.com. It seems to be what I'm looking for, but I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there. What are you trying to do that Mozy doesn't do? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread
I use Cobian (use SFTP - SSL+FTP) and vsftpd for a $0 budget software solution. Cobian is an amazing program. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: Put it on my server, not someone else's. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:43 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread Mike Hammett wrote: I'm looking at remote-backup.com. It seems to be what I'm looking for, but I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there. What are you trying to do that Mozy doesn't do? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread
Amazon's S3 service is very inexpensive and well done. There are many different clients out there which work with S3. I like Mozy but I think Amazon is more likely to be around in the long haul (too big to fail?). Greg On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'm looking at remote-backup.com. It seems to be what I'm looking for, but I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there. It must not be cumbersome for either myself or the client. It must have encryption at all levels (transport and storage). It must have sold online backup in mind, not an enterprise backup program. It must work on Windows clients, hopefully Linux clients too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread
While I believe Amazon will survive there is no such thing as too big to fail... Mike's own server ensures that as long as Mike is there, the data is there. I backup my servers to my own server for this reason in addition to the capability and locality of the data. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:51 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Amazon's S3 service is very inexpensive and well done. There are many different clients out there which work with S3. I like Mozy but I think Amazon is more likely to be around in the long haul (too big to fail?). Greg On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'm looking at remote-backup.com. It seems to be what I'm looking for, but I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there. It must not be cumbersome for either myself or the client. It must have encryption at all levels (transport and storage). It must have sold online backup in mind, not an enterprise backup program. It must work on Windows clients, hopefully Linux clients too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread
Rsync =) works great got windows version available. Depending what your looking at doing. Just have the clients backup their documents or do complete machine backup for later restore (if the later then rsync is not it). / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Another online backup thread I'm looking at remote-backup.com. It seems to be what I'm looking for, but I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there. It must not be cumbersome for either myself or the client. It must have encryption at all levels (transport and storage). It must have sold online backup in mind, not an enterprise backup program. It must work on Windows clients, hopefully Linux clients too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread
Yeah, that too big to fail thing was a bit of a joke, but they probably have stronger fundamentals than Mozy. The only thing I like about off site storage is you could have a devastating disaster (fire, hurricane/tornado etc) and lose it all. Amazon's S3 is probably in a different geographical region so at least your data would be safe. Greg On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: While I believe Amazon will survive there is no such thing as too big to fail... Mike's own server ensures that as long as Mike is there, the data is there. I backup my servers to my own server for this reason in addition to the capability and locality of the data. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:51 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Amazon's S3 service is very inexpensive and well done. There are many different clients out there which work with S3. I like Mozy but I think Amazon is more likely to be around in the long haul (too big to fail?). Greg On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'm looking at remote-backup.com. It seems to be what I'm looking for, but I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there. It must not be cumbersome for either myself or the client. It must have encryption at all levels (transport and storage). It must have sold online backup in mind, not an enterprise backup program. It must work on Windows clients, hopefully Linux clients too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread
True to this. Just look at Circuit City. Second largest electronics retailer in the US. Gone.. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread While I believe Amazon will survive there is no such thing as too big to fail... Mike's own server ensures that as long as Mike is there, the data is there. I backup my servers to my own server for this reason in addition to the capability and locality of the data. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:51 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Amazon's S3 service is very inexpensive and well done. There are many different clients out there which work with S3. I like Mozy but I think Amazon is more likely to be around in the long haul (too big to fail?). Greg On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'm looking at remote-backup.com. It seems to be what I'm looking for, but I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there. It must not be cumbersome for either myself or the client. It must have encryption at all levels (transport and storage). It must have sold online backup in mind, not an enterprise backup program. It must work on Windows clients, hopefully Linux clients too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread
IMO stay as far away from remote-backup.com's product as possible. We bought into their front and it turned out to be a very unrefined product that was cumbersome to install on the customer side and their support was practically non-existent. I've heard of other people having success with RBS but we dropped it and wrote off our losses after much frustration. Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Another online backup thread I'm looking at remote-backup.com. It seems to be what I'm looking for, but I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there. It must not be cumbersome for either myself or the client. It must have encryption at all levels (transport and storage). It must have sold online backup in mind, not an enterprise backup program. It must work on Windows clients, hopefully Linux clients too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1937 - Release Date: 02/06/09 11:31:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread
Circuit City had many, many problems (at least at the store here). Lots and lots of "managers" walking around, while their pricing on computer hardware was really, really high. Even during their clearance last week, I went in and found an HP laptop they had marked down for the clearance special ($200 off normal price), and I did a quick lookup and found the exact same laptop, brand new, online for $200 less than that price. So they had a $400 markup on an $899 laptop? Seems a little excessive to me. Travis Microserv Eje Gustafsson wrote: True to this. Just look at Circuit City. Second largest electronics retailer in the US. Gone.. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread While I believe Amazon will survive there is no such thing as too big to fail... Mike's own server ensures that as long as Mike is there, the data is there. I backup my servers to my own server for this reason in addition to the capability and locality of the data. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:51 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Amazon's S3 service is very inexpensive and well done. There are many different clients out there which work with S3. I like Mozy but I think Amazon is more likely to be around in the long haul (too big to fail?). Greg On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'm looking at remote-backup.com. It seems to be what I'm looking for, but I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there. It must not be cumbersome for either myself or the client. It must have encryption at all levels (transport and storage). It must have sold online backup in mind, not an enterprise backup program. It must work on Windows clients, hopefully Linux clients too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread
If you can do rsync on Windows, do it. Rsync in *nix is beautiful. On 2/17/09, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Circuit City had many, many problems (at least at the store here). Lots and lots of managers walking around, while their pricing on computer hardware was really, really high. Even during their clearance last week, I went in and found an HP laptop they had marked down for the clearance special ($200 off normal price), and I did a quick lookup and found the exact same laptop, brand new, online for $200 less than that price. So they had a $400 markup on an $899 laptop? Seems a little excessive to me. Travis Microserv Eje Gustafsson wrote: True to this. Just look at Circuit City. Second largest electronics retailer in the US. Gone.. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread While I believe Amazon will survive there is no such thing as too big to fail... Mike's own server ensures that as long as Mike is there, the data is there. I backup my servers to my own server for this reason in addition to the capability and locality of the data. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:51 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Amazon's S3 service is very inexpensive and well done. There are many different clients out there which work with S3. I like Mozy but I think Amazon is more likely to be around in the long haul (too big to fail?). Greg On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'm looking at remote-backup.com. It seems to be what I'm looking for, but I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there. It must not be cumbersome for either myself or the client. It must have encryption at all levels (transport and storage). It must have sold online backup in mind, not an enterprise backup program. It must work on Windows clients, hopefully Linux clients too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread
Been doing it for a long time on my Laptop and work computer.. Actually how I ensure my documents on the two are synced so I never have to search or have duplicate documents on the two... Cwrsync - rsync for windows http://www.itefix.no/i2/node/10650 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread If you can do rsync on Windows, do it. Rsync in *nix is beautiful. On 2/17/09, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Circuit City had many, many problems (at least at the store here). Lots and lots of managers walking around, while their pricing on computer hardware was really, really high. Even during their clearance last week, I went in and found an HP laptop they had marked down for the clearance special ($200 off normal price), and I did a quick lookup and found the exact same laptop, brand new, online for $200 less than that price. So they had a $400 markup on an $899 laptop? Seems a little excessive to me. Travis Microserv Eje Gustafsson wrote: True to this. Just look at Circuit City. Second largest electronics retailer in the US. Gone.. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread While I believe Amazon will survive there is no such thing as too big to fail... Mike's own server ensures that as long as Mike is there, the data is there. I backup my servers to my own server for this reason in addition to the capability and locality of the data. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:51 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Amazon's S3 service is very inexpensive and well done. There are many different clients out there which work with S3. I like Mozy but I think Amazon is more likely to be around in the long haul (too big to fail?). Greg On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'm looking at remote-backup.com. It seems to be what I'm looking for, but I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there. It must not be cumbersome for either myself or the client. It must have encryption at all levels (transport and storage). It must have sold online backup in mind, not an enterprise backup program. It must work on Windows clients, hopefully Linux clients too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail
Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread
Mike, I've been using it for three years. The only issues I have had is that from time to time a customers backup stops working. We have to go out, delete the backup parameters and create a new backup set. I've had customers recover data and it's worked great. One took almost 10 hours to recover the entire document structure on their server, she deleted it by mistake, but it worked. We take a backup off site from here as well to a safety deposit box each day. I'll drop off last nights backup copied to removable USB drives, pick up the drives from the box and copy tonights backup in the morning to the drives I exchanged. It's a data backup system, not a system backup utility. We use LoneTar on our linux systems - and have never tried to load RBS on a linux box David Hulsebus Portative Technologies, LLC www.portative.com Mike Hammett wrote: I'm looking at remote-backup.com. It seems to be what I'm looking for, but I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there. It must not be cumbersome for either myself or the client. It must have encryption at all levels (transport and storage). It must have sold online backup in mind, not an enterprise backup program. It must work on Windows clients, hopefully Linux clients too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread
I do have my off site servers and am working on out-of-region servers. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:58 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread Yeah, that too big to fail thing was a bit of a joke, but they probably have stronger fundamentals than Mozy. The only thing I like about off site storage is you could have a devastating disaster (fire, hurricane/tornado etc) and lose it all. Amazon's S3 is probably in a different geographical region so at least your data would be safe. Greg On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: While I believe Amazon will survive there is no such thing as too big to fail... Mike's own server ensures that as long as Mike is there, the data is there. I backup my servers to my own server for this reason in addition to the capability and locality of the data. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:51 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Amazon's S3 service is very inexpensive and well done. There are many different clients out there which work with S3. I like Mozy but I think Amazon is more likely to be around in the long haul (too big to fail?). Greg On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'm looking at remote-backup.com. It seems to be what I'm looking for, but I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there. It must not be cumbersome for either myself or the client. It must have encryption at all levels (transport and storage). It must have sold online backup in mind, not an enterprise backup program. It must work on Windows clients, hopefully Linux clients too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread
Indeed. I went there a few weeks ago. There were things I literally paid 1/6 of the price for elsewhere from reputable places. Made me not to want to look at any of their other products (TVs, etc.). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:04 PM To: e...@wisp-router.com ; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread Circuit City had many, many problems (at least at the store here). Lots and lots of managers walking around, while their pricing on computer hardware was really, really high. Even during their clearance last week, I went in and found an HP laptop they had marked down for the clearance special ($200 off normal price), and I did a quick lookup and found the exact same laptop, brand new, online for $200 less than that price. So they had a $400 markup on an $899 laptop? Seems a little excessive to me. Travis Microserv Eje Gustafsson wrote: True to this. Just look at Circuit City. Second largest electronics retailer in the US. Gone.. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread While I believe Amazon will survive there is no such thing as too big to fail... Mike's own server ensures that as long as Mike is there, the data is there. I backup my servers to my own server for this reason in addition to the capability and locality of the data. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:51 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Amazon's S3 service is very inexpensive and well done. There are many different clients out there which work with S3. I like Mozy but I think Amazon is more likely to be around in the long haul (too big to fail?). Greg On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'm looking at remote-backup.com. It seems to be what I'm looking for, but I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there. It must not be cumbersome for either myself or the client. It must have encryption at all levels (transport and storage). It must have sold online backup in mind, not an enterprise backup program. It must work on Windows clients, hopefully Linux clients too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo
