Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
Strangely, our experience was the opposite, Hurricane Electric wanted about $500 more per month for 100 meg and a cabinet than our reseller did. John Andy Trimmell wrote: Resellers are a little bit more expensive actually and all of them don't have fiber already ran. It's ridiculous the cost we pay. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo We buy ours through a reseller, and they have quoted us $1000/month for Gig at Hurricane Electric in Fremont CA. John Mike Hammett wrote: I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if GigE connections were under $1 now. I know a couple companies were at $1. Bandwidth pricing is the inverse of real estate pricing. Downtown Chicago, a sq.ft. of land could buy you hundreds of acres in Montana. A single meg in Montana could buy you hundreds of megs (or a couple gigs) in Chicago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:20 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo 50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to ATT. We're paying 10x that from ATT right now. $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue ATT for highway robbery. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg? $9/meg isn't much to write home about. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Yup. If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper. One client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago. Their biggest hurdle are peering agreements with the big boys. The ATt¹s of the world are sort of tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do. They tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry. Lots of web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced http://www.mtin.net - Homepage http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I hear $1500 for a gig! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
Kinda sounds like a WISP, eh? As long as they aren't overselling it to the point quality suffers, who cares? We had to work at just doing a speed test on our 100 meg connection as most of the servers couldn't do 100 meg up and 100 meg down. We finally were able to do a ftp and get 95 meg/95 meg to verify that it was working as advertised. I still smile when I can do traceroutes to cities miles away and have all the hops at 1 ms, or less when using Linux. John Justin Wilson wrote: Plus they want to oversell this cheap bandwidth. They don¹t want you to max out that Gig circuit. Allows them to oversell their bandwidth that much more. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
The best way to test bandwidth is to use simple tools like iPerf. Techs should load iPerf on their laptops as well. Iperf was developed by NLANR/DAST as a modern alternative for measuring maximum TCP and UDP bandwidth performance. Iperf allows the tuning of various parameters and UDP characteristics. Iperf reports bandwidth, delay jitter, datagram loss. http://sourceforge.net/projects/iperf/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Jan 29, 2010, at 5:59 PM, John Thomas wrote: Kinda sounds like a WISP, eh? As long as they aren't overselling it to the point quality suffers, who cares? We had to work at just doing a speed test on our 100 meg connection as most of the servers couldn't do 100 meg up and 100 meg down. We finally were able to do a ftp and get 95 meg/95 meg to verify that it was working as advertised. I still smile when I can do traceroutes to cities miles away and have all the hops at 1 ms, or less when using Linux. John Justin Wilson wrote: Plus they want to oversell this cheap bandwidth. They don¹t want you to max out that Gig circuit. Allows them to oversell their bandwidth that much more. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
I want my provider to have no oversubscription within the metro area. Gear is too cheap not to. Beyond the metro, I expect oversubscription, but I also expect excellent performance. They can usually dump the traffic off to someone else within the metro, so they don't need 1:1 leaving the city. However, with more than more customers ordering several 10GigE interfaces, the longhaul is getting full. http://www.att.com/Common/merger/files/pdf/wired-network/Domestic_0C-768_Network.pdf This is obviously an old map, but according to it, ATT had 9x 40Gig connections out of Chicago as of 2008, in addition to all of their other longhaul circuits. Verizon started using 100Gig links in production networks last month. http://newscenter.verizon.com/press-releases/verizon/2009/verizon-deploys-commercial.html One web host has 160 gigs of outside connectivity in Chicago alone. Enough of my rambling... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 4:59 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Kinda sounds like a WISP, eh? As long as they aren't overselling it to the point quality suffers, who cares? We had to work at just doing a speed test on our 100 meg connection as most of the servers couldn't do 100 meg up and 100 meg down. We finally were able to do a ftp and get 95 meg/95 meg to verify that it was working as advertised. I still smile when I can do traceroutes to cities miles away and have all the hops at 1 ms, or less when using Linux. John Justin Wilson wrote: Plus they want to oversell this cheap bandwidth. They don¹t want you to max out that Gig circuit. Allows them to oversell their bandwidth that much more. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
Resellers are a little bit more expensive actually and all of them don't have fiber already ran. It's ridiculous the cost we pay. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo We buy ours through a reseller, and they have quoted us $1000/month for Gig at Hurricane Electric in Fremont CA. John Mike Hammett wrote: I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if GigE connections were under $1 now. I know a couple companies were at $1. Bandwidth pricing is the inverse of real estate pricing. Downtown Chicago, a sq.ft. of land could buy you hundreds of acres in Montana. A single meg in Montana could buy you hundreds of megs (or a couple gigs) in Chicago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:20 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo 50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to ATT. We're paying 10x that from ATT right now. $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue ATT for highway robbery. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg? $9/meg isn't much to write home about. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Yup. If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper. One client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago. Their biggest hurdle are peering agreements with the big boys. The ATt¹s of the world are sort of tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do. They tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry. Lots of web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced http://www.mtin.net - Homepage http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I hear $1500 for a gig! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
Most resellers are cheaper, some even 50% cheaper. They achieve this by buying say 300 gigs worth of traffic (getting a great rate), then splitting the difference between that rate and the carrier's retail rate. They don't have any gear, they just tell the carrier to hook up a new port at X, which is really your equipment. Once they have their own equipment, perform their own routing decisions, they're not merely a reseller anymore. Their gear, route, routing, etc. make a unique product. It's 15 miles from your home base to 3 buildings where you can obtain $4/megabit, and your network is 25 miles across. Some of those have over 15 carriers in them. I can put you in touch my with Cogent rep to explore the options for getting roof space at one of these facilities to beam that signal out. As Matt Larsen has been talking about, he built out 125 miles of backhaul to connect his network back to civilization. Others have even further to go. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:19 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Resellers are a little bit more expensive actually and all of them don't have fiber already ran. It's ridiculous the cost we pay. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo We buy ours through a reseller, and they have quoted us $1000/month for Gig at Hurricane Electric in Fremont CA. John Mike Hammett wrote: I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if GigE connections were under $1 now. I know a couple companies were at $1. Bandwidth pricing is the inverse of real estate pricing. Downtown Chicago, a sq.ft. of land could buy you hundreds of acres in Montana. A single meg in Montana could buy you hundreds of megs (or a couple gigs) in Chicago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:20 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo 50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to ATT. We're paying 10x that from ATT right now. $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue ATT for highway robbery. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg? $9/meg isn't much to write home about. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Yup. If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper. One client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago. Their biggest hurdle are peering agreements with the big boys. The ATt¹s of the world are sort of tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do. They tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry. Lots of web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced http://www.mtin.net - Homepage http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I hear $1500 for a gig! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 09:42:09AM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote: As Matt Larsen has been talking about, he built out 125 miles of backhaul to connect his network back to civilization. Others have even further to go. - Mike Hammett Looks like we'd have to go across three states to get to a Cogent facility. Five states to get to Hurricane Electric. Colocation at their datacenter would be a pittance compared to the backhaul costs. -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
Yeah, there's not much in Maine. It's not between anywhere big on the Internet, so there's no need for the cables to go through there. It is only 50% longer than Matt Larsen did 5 - 10 years ago. I think Travis may even have single links further than that. (This last bit meant jokingly.) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:56 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 09:42:09AM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote: As Matt Larsen has been talking about, he built out 125 miles of backhaul to connect his network back to civilization. Others have even further to go. - Mike Hammett Looks like we'd have to go across three states to get to a Cogent facility. Five states to get to Hurricane Electric. Colocation at their datacenter would be a pittance compared to the backhaul costs. -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
Plus they want to oversell this cheap bandwidth. They don¹t want you to max out that Gig circuit. Allows them to oversell their bandwidth that much more. -- John, You are correct, Gig is starting to go for $1-$2 per mb. Not only from Hurricaine, although Hurricaine is clearly a disruptive force leader today. Hurricaine is doing a big marketing push with Equinix, which I think is really helping them expand both in market share and quality of peering. Having to buy Gig quantity to get a discount is no longer a disadvantage when it is 10x less per mb than 100mb quantity :-) The problem is that nobody (End user customers) needs a Gig. So providers dont want to sell you a gig in remote buildings where there are customers that you can resell to, or they under cut themselves. They also cant do it in buildings where they have to buy/lease the fiber from someone else, without multiple customers to share it. It has to be from a place that they already cost justified the Dark fiber purchase. Cost is still all about transport, getting into the colo. image.png WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Funny. Nice to have a reality check from Rural America. :-) Looks like a BTOP/BIP middle mile grant is needed to your town.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 09:42:09AM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote: As Matt Larsen has been talking about, he built out 125 miles of backhaul to connect his network back to civilization. Others have even further to go. - Mike Hammett Looks like we'd have to go across three states to get to a Cogent facility. Five states to get to Hurricane Electric. Colocation at their datacenter would be a pittance compared to the backhaul costs. -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Thats right. A good friend of mine who owns a datacenter has his own fiber direct to the NAP and is paying .50/meg! If you can transport it and plug in, things get much better. If you cant, they're still getting better, just not as much. -RickG On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Location, location, location... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: 50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to ATT. We're paying 10x that from ATT right now. $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue ATT for highway robbery. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg? $9/meg isn't much to write home about. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Yup. If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper. One client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago. Their biggest hurdle are peering agreements with the big boys. The ATt¹s of the world are sort of tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do. They tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry. Lots of web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced http://www.mtin.net - Homepage http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I hear $1500 for a gig! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
Yup. If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper. One client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago. Their biggest hurdle are peering agreements with the big boys. The ATt¹s of the world are sort of tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do. They tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry. Lots of web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced http://www.mtin.net - Homepage http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I hear $1500 for a gig! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg? $9/meg isn't much to write home about. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Yup. If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper. One client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago. Their biggest hurdle are peering agreements with the big boys. The ATt¹s of the world are sort of tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do. They tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry. Lots of web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced http://www.mtin.net - Homepage http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I hear $1500 for a gig! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to ATT. We're paying 10x that from ATT right now. $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue ATT for highway robbery. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg? $9/meg isn't much to write home about. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Yup. If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper. One client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago. Their biggest hurdle are peering agreements with the big boys. The ATt¹s of the world are sort of tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do. They tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry. Lots of web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced http://www.mtin.net - Homepage http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I hear $1500 for a gig! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
Location, location, location... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote: 50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to ATT. We're paying 10x that from ATT right now. $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue ATT for highway robbery. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg? $9/meg isn't much to write home about. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Yup. If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper. One client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago. Their biggest hurdle are peering agreements with the big boys. The ATt¹s of the world are sort of tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do. They tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry. Lots of web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced http://www.mtin.net - Homepage http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I hear $1500 for a gig! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
Lol...took the words right off of my keyboard! Only three things matter on what pretty much anything will cost you: (1) Location (2) Location (3) Location Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Location, location, location... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote: 50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to ATT. We're paying 10x that from ATT right now. $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue ATT for highway robbery. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg? $9/meg isn't much to write home about. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Yup. If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper. One client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago. Their biggest hurdle are peering agreements with the big boys. The ATt¹s of the world are sort of tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do. They tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry. Lots of web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced http://www.mtin.net - Homepage http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I hear $1500 for a gig! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if GigE connections were under $1 now. I know a couple companies were at $1. Bandwidth pricing is the inverse of real estate pricing. Downtown Chicago, a sq.ft. of land could buy you hundreds of acres in Montana. A single meg in Montana could buy you hundreds of megs (or a couple gigs) in Chicago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:20 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo 50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to ATT. We're paying 10x that from ATT right now. $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue ATT for highway robbery. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg? $9/meg isn't much to write home about. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Yup. If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper. One client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago. Their biggest hurdle are peering agreements with the big boys. The ATt¹s of the world are sort of tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do. They tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry. Lots of web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced http://www.mtin.net - Homepage http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I hear $1500 for a gig! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join
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Huricane Electric has some great deals. $1-$2 per Mbps On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Reid Fishler rfish...@he.net wrote: With the new year upon us, it's time to save with Hurricane Electric! With POPs all throughout the world (see the list at the end of this posting), you are sure to be within a CAT5 (or fiber) throw from our network. We have 4 specials for the first month of 2010: 1) Full Gigabit Ethernet connection in any US, Canadian or European Hurricane Electric POP for $1.50/Mbps with a one year contract. ($1,500/month, customer is responsible for all cross connect fees) 2) Full Gigabit connection in any US, Canadian or European Hurricane Electric POP for $1.45/Mbps with a one year contract if you qualify by either: having at least 1 he.net certified IPv6 sage (see http://ipv6.he.net for certification details) and you IPv6 enable one of your main sites (a registered domain name, not a subdomain) OR If you have your own AS and IPv6 address space and run IPv6 BGP. Lower pricing is available for longer term contracts. 3) Full 10 Gigabit Ethernet connection in any US, Canadian or European Hurricane Electric POP for $2/Mbps with a one year contract. ($20,000/month, customer is responsible for all cross connect fees). 4) Full 100Mbps connection in any US, Canadian or European Hurricane Electric POP for $2/Mbps with a one year contract.($200/month, customer is responsible for all cross connect fees) Founded in 1994, Hurricane Electric is one of the worlds top 10 IPv4 networks. Hurricane is also the largest provider of IPv6 in the world. IPv6 is available at every one of our locations. To test how our network looks, try it out at http://lg.he.net/. If you are located at any of the locations listed below, you will be filled with holiday cheer with Hurricane Electrics offers! If you are in a city WITHOUT our service right now, email us, as new cities are always of great interest. Fast Ethernet, Gigabit Ethernet, 10 Gigabit Ethernet, all are available for prices you would not believe, with pricing as low as $1/Mbps. Transport between our locations is also available at very attractive flat rate pricing. Please email us at rfish...@he.net or call us at (516)248-8400 x122 and we will get you a quote that will surprise you. Hurricane Fremont 1 760 Mission Court Fremont CA 94539 Hurricane Fremont 2 48233 Warm Springs Blvd Fremont CA 94539 PAIX Palo Alto 529 Bryant Palo Alto CA 94301 Hurricane San Jose 55 South Market San Jose CA 95113 Equinix San Jose 11 Great Oaks San Jose CA 95119 Equinix Los Angeles 600 W 7th Ave Los Angeles CA 90017 Equinix Chicago 350 East Cermak Chicago IL 60616 PAIX New York 111 8th Ave Suite 734 New York NY 10011 Telehouse New York 25 Broadway New York NY 10004 Equinix Dallas 1950 Stemmons Freeway Dallas TX 75207 Equinix Ashburn 21715 Filigree Court Ashburn VA 20174 Nap of the Americas 50 NE 9th St. Miami, FL 33132 Switch and Data Seattle 2001 6th Ave Suite 1200 Seattle WA 98121 One Wilshire 624 South Grand Avenue, Suite 110 Los Angeles, CA 90017 Telx 60 Hudson 60 Hudson St. New York NY 10013 Telx Atlanta 56 Marietta Atlanta GA 30303 Switch and Data Toronto 151 Front Street Toronto, ON Canada Telehouse East London 14 Coriander Ave London E14 2AA England NIKHEF Amsterdam Kruislaan 409 1098 SJ Amsterdam, Netherlands Interxion Frankfurt 1 Hanauer Landstr. 302 Frankfurt Germany Interxion Paris 2 20-22 Rue des Gardinoux, Batiment E501 93534 Aubervilliers Cedex, France Equinix Zürich 1 Hardstrasse 235 8005 Zürich Switzerland Telecity Stockholm Mariehällsvägen 36, S-161 02 Bromma, Sweden NOW IN ASIA! Mega-iAdvantage 399 Chai Wan Road Chai Wan, Hong Kong Equinix Tokyo 2 3-8-21 Higashi Shinagawa Shinagawa-ku Tokyo 104-0002, Japan On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if GigE connections were under $1 now. I know a couple companies were at $1. Bandwidth pricing is the inverse of real estate pricing. Downtown Chicago, a sq.ft. of land could buy you hundreds of acres in Montana. A single meg in Montana could buy you hundreds of megs (or a couple gigs) in Chicago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:20 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo 50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to ATT. We're paying 10x that from ATT right now. $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue ATT for highway robbery. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
Start lining up the lawsuit then. We pay about $350 for 100 megabits/sec at Hurricane Electric in Fremont CA. John Andy Trimmell wrote: 50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to ATT. We're paying 10x that from ATT right now. $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue ATT for highway robbery. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg? $9/meg isn't much to write home about. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Yup. If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper. One client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago. Their biggest hurdle are peering agreements with the big boys. The ATt¹s of the world are sort of tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do. They tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry. Lots of web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced http://www.mtin.net - Homepage http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I hear $1500 for a gig! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
We buy ours through a reseller, and they have quoted us $1000/month for Gig at Hurricane Electric in Fremont CA. John Mike Hammett wrote: I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if GigE connections were under $1 now. I know a couple companies were at $1. Bandwidth pricing is the inverse of real estate pricing. Downtown Chicago, a sq.ft. of land could buy you hundreds of acres in Montana. A single meg in Montana could buy you hundreds of megs (or a couple gigs) in Chicago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:20 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo 50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to ATT. We're paying 10x that from ATT right now. $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue ATT for highway robbery. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg? $9/meg isn't much to write home about. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Yup. If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper. One client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago. Their biggest hurdle are peering agreements with the big boys. The ATt¹s of the world are sort of tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do. They tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry. Lots of web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced http://www.mtin.net - Homepage http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I hear $1500 for a gig! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
John, You are correct, Gig is starting to go for $1-$2 per mb. Not only from Hurricaine, although Hurricaine is clearly a disruptive force leader today. Hurricaine is doing a big marketing push with Equinix, which I think is really helping them expand both in market share and quality of peering. Having to buy Gig quantity to get a discount is no longer a disadvantage when it is 10x less per mb than 100mb quantity :-) The problem is that nobody (End user customers) needs a Gig. So providers dont want to sell you a gig in remote buildings where there are customers that you can resell to, or they under cut themselves. They also cant do it in buildings where they have to buy/lease the fiber from someone else, without multiple customers to share it. It has to be from a place that they already cost justified the Dark fiber purchase. Cost is still all about transport, getting into the colo. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo We buy ours through a reseller, and they have quoted us $1000/month for Gig at Hurricane Electric in Fremont CA. John Mike Hammett wrote: I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if GigE connections were under $1 now. I know a couple companies were at $1. Bandwidth pricing is the inverse of real estate pricing. Downtown Chicago, a sq.ft. of land could buy you hundreds of acres in Montana. A single meg in Montana could buy you hundreds of megs (or a couple gigs) in Chicago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:20 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo 50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to ATT. We're paying 10x that from ATT right now. $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue ATT for highway robbery. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg? $9/meg isn't much to write home about. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Yup. If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper. One client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago. Their biggest hurdle are peering agreements with the big boys. The ATt¹s of the world are sort of tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do. They tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry. Lots of web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced http://www.mtin.net - Homepage http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I hear $1500 for a gig! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing
[WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
I have seen a network feeding 80 megs of cogent for about 3 months now. No complaints for the users. But this network also has a BGP feed from Tier1. We have servers on a cogent link in downtown Chicago. No problems with them and there are 200+ web-sites hosted on those boxes. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced http://www.mtin.net - Homepage http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing Web Design From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:39:53 -0600 To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
2nd that. Cogent in Wisconsin has been solid for us for the past two years or so. I have not heard bad things about their network out of Illinois either. Some people have problems with them in other markets. On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net wrote: I have seen a network feeding 80 megs of cogent for about 3 months now. No complaints for the users. But this network also has a BGP feed from Tier1. We have servers on a cogent link in downtown Chicago. No problems with them and there are 200+ web-sites hosted on those boxes. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced http://www.mtin.net - Homepage http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing Web Design From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:39:53 -0600 To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
Had more trouble with our ATT link then our Cogent link...going on two years and only 1 unexpected outage...pays to have BGP! But we do connect to them wirelessly using a Ceragon that runs right to a Colo...so nice to bypass the ILEC's ridiculous prices for fiber!!! Bret Jon Auer wrote: 2nd that. Cogent in Wisconsin has been solid for us for the past two years or so. I have not heard bad things about their network out of Illinois either. Some people have problems with them in other markets. On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net wrote: I have seen a network feeding 80 megs of cogent for about 3 months now. No complaints for the users. But this network also has a BGP feed from Tier1. We have servers on a cogent link in downtown Chicago. No problems with them and there are 200+ web-sites hosted on those boxes. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced http://www.mtin.net - Homepage http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing Web Design From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:39:53 -0600 To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
I hear $1500 for a gig! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
