RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding
I don't think the drain wire would be big enough to ground the mount. We ground the drain wire to the lug in the Canopy 300ss. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:54 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding Can't you just use shielded Cat5E cable to do this. We use it on all tower installs but not for CPE's. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Bushard, Jr Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:19 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding I have been looking for Shielded Cat5e with a ground wire attached for a long time also. I was thinking of calling belden and asking them what it would take to make it. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding I know this is something every WISP should be interested in using. It would be great to have an outdoor rated Cat5 cable with an attached 10awg. A reasonable price IMO for a 1000' spool would be $200 - $250. Keep us posted if you run across any. The smallest ground I would be comfortable using is 12awg and we'll want to sure it is braided so the cable is not stiff. While on this subject, is a 4' long 3/8 diameter copper ground rod sufficient for a CPE installation? SkyWalker sells these for less than a buck each in 100 qty. and they include a ground clamp to attach the wire. I'm thinking about buying a 100 of them. They also have a decent price on their 10 awg ground wire, 500' spool for $59 but I don't know if it is solid or braided. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding Ok, I am searching for cat5 with ground wire attached. How well do you think a coax would work to ground the CPE? http://www.computercablestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=2098 It's not like I am trying to protect it from lightning (good luck) I just want somewhere for the static to go. I could break off the coax at the entrance to the house and bang a 4 ft ground rod in and call it good. Thoughts? Anyone know a cable maker who could attach a ground wire? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding
Blair,Where can I get this outdoor, shielded, flooded, cat5 with drain wire for about $80? That is about what I'm paying now for simple outdoor rated cat5.Thanks, Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I use a outdoor, shielded, flooded, cat5 with drain wire.About $80 or so per 1000ft. The drain wire is awg 24 or so, but, it serves the purpose of bleeding off the static charge and protecting the ethernet port on the radio and the computer/router. I have had no ethernet port damage on CPE's or towers that I have used this on and I am retro-fitting my existing towers with it.I ground it to the home electrical system at the power injector when used with a CPE.It is not very pretty, but it works.Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Ok, I am searching for cat5 with ground wire attached. How well do you think a coax would work to ground the CPE? http://www.computercablestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=2098 It's not like I am trying to protect it from lightning (good luck) I just want somewhere for the static to go. I could break off the coax at the entrance to the house and bang a 4 ft ground rod in and call it good. Thoughts? Anyone know a cable maker who could attach a ground wire?-- Blair DavisAOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240West Michigan Wireless ISP269-686-8648A division of:Camp Communication Services, INC-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/Velocity Wireless Anthony Morin 208 East Elm Street Ambia, IN 47917 Office: (765) 869-5173 Cell: (765) 884-6009 Blab-away for as little as 1ยข/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding
Ok, I am searching for cat5 with ground wire attached. How well do you think a coax would work to ground the CPE? http://www.computercablestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=2098 It's not like I am trying to protect it from lightning (good luck) I just want somewhere for the static to go. I could break off the coax at the entrance to the house and bang a 4 ft ground rod in and call it good. Thoughts? Anyone know a cable maker who could attach a ground wire? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding
I have been looking for Shielded Cat5e with a ground wire attached for a long time also. I was thinking of calling belden and asking them what it would take to make it. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding I know this is something every WISP should be interested in using. It would be great to have an outdoor rated Cat5 cable with an attached 10awg. A reasonable price IMO for a 1000' spool would be $200 - $250. Keep us posted if you run across any. The smallest ground I would be comfortable using is 12awg and we'll want to sure it is braided so the cable is not stiff. While on this subject, is a 4' long 3/8 diameter copper ground rod sufficient for a CPE installation? SkyWalker sells these for less than a buck each in 100 qty. and they include a ground clamp to attach the wire. I'm thinking about buying a 100 of them. They also have a decent price on their 10 awg ground wire, 500' spool for $59 but I don't know if it is solid or braided. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding Ok, I am searching for cat5 with ground wire attached. How well do you think a coax would work to ground the CPE? http://www.computercablestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=2098 It's not like I am trying to protect it from lightning (good luck) I just want somewhere for the static to go. I could break off the coax at the entrance to the house and bang a 4 ft ground rod in and call it good. Thoughts? Anyone know a cable maker who could attach a ground wire? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding
Can't you just use shielded Cat5E cable to do this. We use it on all tower installs but not for CPE's. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Bushard, Jr Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:19 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding I have been looking for Shielded Cat5e with a ground wire attached for a long time also. I was thinking of calling belden and asking them what it would take to make it. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding I know this is something every WISP should be interested in using. It would be great to have an outdoor rated Cat5 cable with an attached 10awg. A reasonable price IMO for a 1000' spool would be $200 - $250. Keep us posted if you run across any. The smallest ground I would be comfortable using is 12awg and we'll want to sure it is braided so the cable is not stiff. While on this subject, is a 4' long 3/8 diameter copper ground rod sufficient for a CPE installation? SkyWalker sells these for less than a buck each in 100 qty. and they include a ground clamp to attach the wire. I'm thinking about buying a 100 of them. They also have a decent price on their 10 awg ground wire, 500' spool for $59 but I don't know if it is solid or braided. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding Ok, I am searching for cat5 with ground wire attached. How well do you think a coax would work to ground the CPE? http://www.computercablestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=2098 It's not like I am trying to protect it from lightning (good luck) I just want somewhere for the static to go. I could break off the coax at the entrance to the house and bang a 4 ft ground rod in and call it good. Thoughts? Anyone know a cable maker who could attach a ground wire? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding
What do you ground the shield to? We are needing to ground the mounting arm. Plus, I would think that it would be hard to attach the shield to a ground rod plus this would require that the Cat5 be cut outside which is something we are wanting to prevent. If we had a Cat5 with an attached ground wire then it would be nice to cut the ground wire and attach both of the cut ends to the ground rod then the outside end would be attached to the mounting arm and the inside end could be attached to a Cat5 surge protector. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:53 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding Can't you just use shielded Cat5E cable to do this. We use it on all tower installs but not for CPE's. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Bushard, Jr Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:19 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding I have been looking for Shielded Cat5e with a ground wire attached for a long time also. I was thinking of calling belden and asking them what it would take to make it. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding I know this is something every WISP should be interested in using. It would be great to have an outdoor rated Cat5 cable with an attached 10awg. A reasonable price IMO for a 1000' spool would be $200 - $250. Keep us posted if you run across any. The smallest ground I would be comfortable using is 12awg and we'll want to sure it is braided so the cable is not stiff. While on this subject, is a 4' long 3/8 diameter copper ground rod sufficient for a CPE installation? SkyWalker sells these for less than a buck each in 100 qty. and they include a ground clamp to attach the wire. I'm thinking about buying a 100 of them. They also have a decent price on their 10 awg ground wire, 500' spool for $59 but I don't know if it is solid or braided. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding Ok, I am searching for cat5 with ground wire attached. How well do you think a coax would work to ground the CPE? http://www.computercablestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=2098 It's not like I am trying to protect it from lightning (good luck) I just want somewhere for the static to go. I could break off the coax at the entrance to the house and bang a 4 ft ground rod in and call it good. Thoughts? Anyone know a cable maker who could attach a ground wire? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding
Well, I use a outdoor, shielded, flooded, cat5 with drain wire. About $80 or so per 1000ft. The drain wire is awg 24 or so, but, it serves the purpose of bleeding off the static charge and protecting the ethernet port on the radio and the computer/router. I have had no ethernet port damage on CPE's or towers that I have used this on and I am retro-fitting my existing towers with it. I ground it to the home electrical system at the power injector when used with a CPE. It is not very pretty, but it works. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Ok, I am searching for cat5 with ground wire attached. How well do you think a coax would work to ground the CPE? http://www.computercablestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=2098 It's not like I am trying to protect it from lightning (good luck) I just want somewhere for the static to go. I could break off the coax at the entrance to the house and bang a 4 ft ground rod in and call it good. Thoughts? Anyone know a cable maker who could attach a ground wire? -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding
Even a shielded, flooded cat5 with messenger would work, but I have been searching for that for years with no luck. When I worked for a cable company, (many years ago), we had an RG-6 cable with a copper plated steel messenger line. It worked for overhead work as well as grounding. KyWiFi LLC wrote: I know this is something every WISP should be interested in using. It would be great to have an outdoor rated Cat5 cable with an attached 10awg. A reasonable price IMO for a 1000' spool would be $200 - $250. Keep us posted if you run across any. The smallest ground I would be comfortable using is 12awg and we'll want to sure it is braided so the cable is not stiff. While on this subject, is a 4' long 3/8 diameter copper ground rod sufficient for a CPE installation? SkyWalker sells these for less than a buck each in 100 qty. and they include a ground clamp to attach the wire. I'm thinking about buying a 100 of them. They also have a decent price on their 10 awg ground wire, 500' spool for $59 but I don't know if it is solid or braided. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding Ok, I am searching for cat5 with ground wire attached. How well do you think a coax would work to ground the CPE? http://www.computercablestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=2098 It's not like I am trying to protect it from lightning (good luck) I just want somewhere for the static to go. I could break off the coax at the entrance to the house and bang a 4 ft ground rod in and call it good. Thoughts? Anyone know a cable maker who could attach a ground wire? -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
