Re: [WISPA] Chrysler to make wifi hotspot cars

2008-06-27 Thread Drew Lentz
It's not just Verizon though. AutoNet has agreements in place with  
both Verizon and Sprint. Now with the Verizon acquisition of Alltel  
and the announcement of EV-DO availability on their network, it makes  
it even stronger. Furthernore, while this is primarily EV-DO for  
broadband, there is still support for their 1xRTT service, which has a  
larger national footprint than the EV-DO area.

At $29 a month though, it seems like a fancy accessory vs. something  
that everyone would subscribe to. The price point is a little high,  
especially when you factor in how more Americans are spending LESS  
time in their vehicles than ever..

-drew
On Jun 27, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

> I can drive to downtown Chicago in under an hour on a good day and  
> Verizon
> EVDO isn't available here...
>
>
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Bryan Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Chrysler to make wifi hotspot cars
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>>
>> On Jun 26, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Drew Lentz wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> #3. With linking the cars directly to the "cellular telephone  
>>> links",
>>> what effect WILL this have on WISPs? What happens when Verizon  
>>> rolls-
>>> out the "in your car and in your home" package that rolls the EV-DO
>>> card into your monthly bill and you now don't have a need for a pipe
>>> at your home?
>>
>> A few answers.
>>
>> 1) Not everyone will move to Verizon (no iPhone ;) ), and EV-DO isn't
>> everywhere.  Many of us support rural areas where Verizon still
>> doesn't exist (although with this Alltel acquisition pending, they'll
>> be closer).
>>
>> 2) Many of our subscribers like to keep the money local (I hear  
>> that a
>> lot).  That's one reason they're our customers in the first place,  
>> and
>> a good reason for them to stay if we provide service superior to that
>> of the cell companies.
>>
>> 3) Gas costs too much for people to keep the car running to keep the
>> hotspot up.  :)
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Re: [WISPA] Chrysler to make wifi hotspot cars

2008-06-27 Thread Mike Hammett
I can drive to downtown Chicago in under an hour on a good day and Verizon 
EVDO isn't available here...


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- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Chrysler to make wifi hotspot cars


>
> On Jun 26, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Drew Lentz wrote:
>
>>
>> #3. With linking the cars directly to the "cellular telephone links",
>> what effect WILL this have on WISPs? What happens when Verizon rolls-
>> out the "in your car and in your home" package that rolls the EV-DO
>> card into your monthly bill and you now don't have a need for a pipe
>> at your home?
>
> A few answers.
>
> 1) Not everyone will move to Verizon (no iPhone ;) ), and EV-DO isn't
> everywhere.  Many of us support rural areas where Verizon still
> doesn't exist (although with this Alltel acquisition pending, they'll
> be closer).
>
> 2) Many of our subscribers like to keep the money local (I hear that a
> lot).  That's one reason they're our customers in the first place, and
> a good reason for them to stay if we provide service superior to that
> of the cell companies.
>
> 3) Gas costs too much for people to keep the car running to keep the
> hotspot up.  :)
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Re: [WISPA] Chrysler to make wifi hotspot cars

2008-06-26 Thread Bryan Scott

On Jun 26, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Drew Lentz wrote:

>
> #3. With linking the cars directly to the "cellular telephone links",
> what effect WILL this have on WISPs? What happens when Verizon rolls-
> out the "in your car and in your home" package that rolls the EV-DO
> card into your monthly bill and you now don't have a need for a pipe
> at your home?

A few answers.

1) Not everyone will move to Verizon (no iPhone ;) ), and EV-DO isn't  
everywhere.  Many of us support rural areas where Verizon still  
doesn't exist (although with this Alltel acquisition pending, they'll  
be closer).

2) Many of our subscribers like to keep the money local (I hear that a  
lot).  That's one reason they're our customers in the first place, and  
a good reason for them to stay if we provide service superior to that  
of the cell companies.

3) Gas costs too much for people to keep the car running to keep the  
hotspot up.  :)





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Re: [WISPA] Chrysler to make wifi hotspot cars

2008-06-26 Thread Drew Lentz
More info from today's press release:

Mopar(R) Launches Industry-First -- uconnect web(TM) Brings Wireless  
Internet Connectivity to Chrysler, Jeep(R) and Dodge Consumers
- uconnect web(TM), Chrysler LLC's in-vehicle wireless Internet  
connectivity system, transforms a Chrysler, Jeep(R) or Dodge vehicle  
into a mobile WiFi "hot spot", - Secure and reliable high-speed  
Internet connectivity enhances the customer experience by

By Mopar(R)

AUBURN HILLS, MICH., JUNE 26 --Mopar(R) announced today that it will  
launch uconnect web(TM), Chrysler LLC's in-vehicle wireless Internet  
connectivity for Chrysler, Jeep(R) and Dodge consumers in the U.S.  
uconnect web, powered by Autonet Mobile, delivers continuous Internet  
connectivity to all vehicle passengers for entertainment and real-time  
information access on the go.
uconnect web will be available in August as a dealer-installed Mopar  
Accessory. Mopar is Chrysler LLC's original equipment parts  
manufacturer and distributor.
The industry-first technology provides high-speed data transfer,  
combining WiFi and 3G connectivity. uconnect web transforms the  
vehicle into a mobile "hot spot," delivering unlimited, reliable and  
uninterrupted Internet connectivity for all passengers in and around  
the vehicle. The "hot spot" connection radius is approximately 100  
feet -- making it convenient to access the Internet at a soccer field  
or family picnic.

Wherever cellular service is available, uconnect web enables all  
vehicle passengers to simultaneously connect with WiFi-enabled devices  
like a laptop, iPhone, Sony Playstation (PSP), PDA and more to:


 -- access the Internet for e-mail, chat and IM
 -- view streaming movies or television shows
 -- download music and download/upload images
 -- play online games

"Mopar's uconnect web brings a new level of convenience and technology  
to our Chrysler, Jeep and Dodge vehicles," said Rob Richard, Director  
- Mopar Part Sales and Service Marketing, Chrysler LLC. "With uconnect  
web, all passengers in or near the vehicle are continuously connected  
to the Internet. They can make dinner reservations, check directions  
or weather, make online purchases, surf Facebook, MySpace, Disney or  
Webkinz, watch the latest YouTube videos, upload photos to a Flickr  
account -- all at the same time."

"uconnect web goes beyond today's DVD and GPS solutions, letting  
passengers extend their Internet lifestyle to the car," said Sterling  
Pratz, CEO of San Francisco-based Autonet Mobile. "The Internet is the  
future of in-car entertainment. We're delighted to be working with  
Chrysler LLC to deliver the first WiFi Internet access that lets  
families, business and leisure travelers stay connected."

The U.S. Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) for the router  
module is $449. Dealer installation is estimated at approximately  
$35-50. Autonet Mobile offers wireless Internet account service at $29  
a month, available in 12-, 24- and 36-month service plans. There is a  
one-time $35 service activation fee. Customer support assistance for  
hardware and service is available.


Run over integrated 3G and 2.5G (EVDO, 1xRTT) cellular data networks,  
the router module with antenna hard-mounts in any vehicle. High-speed  
Internet access ranges from 400-800 Kbps/sec., with upload speeds  
averaging 400 Kbps/sec. The WiFi connection is secured with WEP  
encryption, MAC address restriction or WAN port restriction.  
Compatible with all operating systems supporting WiFi including  
Windows, Mac, Linux and Solaris, no special software is required.
About Autonet Mobile
Autonet Mobile is the first wireless Internet service provider for  
vehicles. Founded by a corporate executive and former race car driver  
and a leading network architect and designer, the company is dedicated  
to enhancing the in-car experience, by bringing the power of the  
Internet to the 200+ million cars on the road in the U.S. Autonet  
Mobile currently provides Avis Rent a Car with the Avis Connect  
service and is used by Storm Chasers, NASCAR and others. For more  
information about Autonet Mobile visit www.autonetmobile.com.

70 Years of Mopar

When Chrysler bought Dodge in 1928, the need for a dedicated parts  
manufacturer, supplier and distribution system to support the growing  
enterprise led to the formation of the Chrysler Motor Parts  
Corporation (CMPC) in 1929.

Originally used in the 1920s, Mopar (a simple contraction of the words  
MOtor and PARts) was trademarked for a line of antifreeze products in  
1937. It was also widely used as a moniker for the CMPC. The Mopar  
brand made its mark in the 1960s -- the muscle car era. The Chrysler  
Corporation built race-ready Dodge and Plymouth "package cars"  
equipped with special high-performance parts. Mopar carried a line of  
"Special Parts" for super stock drag racers and developed its racing  
parts division called Mopar Performance Parts to enhance speed

Re: [WISPA] Chrysler to make wifi hotspot cars

2008-06-26 Thread Drew Lentz
My questions...

#1. Noise floor anyone? 20 cars at an intersection all blaring 2.4 @  
20dBm or so? Metro Wi-Fi, ouch...
#2. Why cut off the guy in front of you when you can disable his cars  
main computer with a handy gumstick type pc designed specifically to  
break into a cars networks? :)
#3. With linking the cars directly to the "cellular telephone links",  
what effect WILL this have on WISPs? What happens when Verizon rolls- 
out the "in your car and in your home" package that rolls the EV-DO  
card into your monthly bill and you now don't have a need for a pipe  
at your home?


On Jun 26, 2008, at 4:51 AM, Rogelio wrote:

> In your opinion, does this solution leave room for WISPs to sell these
> customers services?
>
> http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D91H88101.htm
>
> ***
> People who buy Chrysler LLC vehicles next year will have the option of
> turning their cars and trucks into wireless Internet hotspots.
>
> The company plans to announce Thursday that the feature will be
> available as part of its "uconnect" system that will debut in most  
> 2009
> Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep models.
>
> The wireless Internet will come as a dealer-installed option and will
> work over cellular telephone links. It will come with a monthly fee
> which has not yet been determined, spokesman Todd Goyer said.
>
> Goyer said people will be able to use laptop computers in their cars  
> and
> trucks just as if they were in an office or home.
>
> To access the Internet, vehicles will need to have "uconnect"  
> hardware,
> which Chrysler will unveil to compete with Ford's "Sync" and other
> in-car electronic systems.
>
> The uconnect system will link cellular telephones and personal music
> players to the car's onboard electronics, with the ability to  
> control an
> Apple iPod with radio and steering wheel controls. The system also has
> navigation and real-time traffic features, controlled by voice
> recognition or a touch screen.
>
> It also includes the company's in-car 30-gigabyte hard drive, with
> options for three-channel satellite television service and satellite  
> radio.
>
> Goyer said the wireless system will work while vehicles are moving so
> they can be used by passengers.
>
>
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[WISPA] Chrysler to make wifi hotspot cars

2008-06-26 Thread Rogelio
In your opinion, does this solution leave room for WISPs to sell these 
customers services?

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D91H88101.htm

***
People who buy Chrysler LLC vehicles next year will have the option of 
turning their cars and trucks into wireless Internet hotspots.

The company plans to announce Thursday that the feature will be 
available as part of its "uconnect" system that will debut in most 2009 
Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep models.

The wireless Internet will come as a dealer-installed option and will 
work over cellular telephone links. It will come with a monthly fee 
which has not yet been determined, spokesman Todd Goyer said.

Goyer said people will be able to use laptop computers in their cars and 
trucks just as if they were in an office or home.

To access the Internet, vehicles will need to have "uconnect" hardware, 
which Chrysler will unveil to compete with Ford's "Sync" and other 
in-car electronic systems.

The uconnect system will link cellular telephones and personal music 
players to the car's onboard electronics, with the ability to control an 
Apple iPod with radio and steering wheel controls. The system also has 
navigation and real-time traffic features, controlled by voice 
recognition or a touch screen.

It also includes the company's in-car 30-gigabyte hard drive, with 
options for three-channel satellite television service and satellite radio.

Goyer said the wireless system will work while vehicles are moving so 
they can be used by passengers.



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