Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions
http://apgrainsystems.com/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Ralph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 3:32 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions Even more OT- For those of us down here in Peanut country... What the holy heck is a "grain leg"? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions Go to www.raleybros.com (about 10 miles from my home) when the home page comes up just keep refreshing your browser to change the pics displayed. All of the elevators are already running over, the temporary ground storage bins are full and now all the elevators around here are just dumping it on the ground in huge piles. All the river port facilities are backed up for miles with grain trucks trying to haul it out of here and the railroad facilities can't get enough grain cars in to haul it all out of here. Corn flakes ought to be .20 cents a box! Mac WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions
Even more OT- For those of us down here in Peanut country... What the holy heck is a "grain leg"? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions Go to www.raleybros.com (about 10 miles from my home) when the home page comes up just keep refreshing your browser to change the pics displayed. All of the elevators are already running over, the temporary ground storage bins are full and now all the elevators around here are just dumping it on the ground in huge piles. All the river port facilities are backed up for miles with grain trucks trying to haul it out of here and the railroad facilities can't get enough grain cars in to haul it all out of here. Corn flakes ought to be .20 cents a box! Mac WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:51 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions Here is my question: Do they make a device that has multiple DC power output voltages (12/18/24/48) that connects directly to a set of batteries with the ability to connect multiple devices and if so - how do you keep your batteries charged? I would like to run my gear directly off the DC power instead of plugging everything into 120vdc and then have the wall warts convert to the DC power. I currently have 10 radios on top of the elevator and it is a major distribution point for the North and East legs of our network. Since you already have ups's in place, your problem sounds like simply that you didn't choose to use a model with battery packs. APC has models such as the 1400XL (or, for better effeciency, the 700XL if you won't be pulling lots and lots of juice) which will accept a daisy-chain of external battery packs, increasing the runtime considerably per each that you connect (up to some technical limit, but for your application I would think a full 24hrs and beyond would be within easy grasp, espically considering the reletively low power consumption of the gear you want to power). Better still, APC has cheap remote snmp mgmt cards for their units so you can a) know when the power is out, b) how long you have, and c) what the charge of the batteries are, so you can stay on top of it in case the outages go beyond what you had planned for. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions
Mac, I pulled some notes from a thread on the StarOS forums, you might want to go read the whole thing if this sounds interesting: === (gleaned from "Solar Power" thread on StarOS forum started 6/18/2006 by Ick) Should power at least 8 WAR2. Iota DLS-15 12v 15A battery charger (larger available) $116 http://store.solar-electric.com/ioen12vo15am.html optional Iota IQ4 plugin smart charger $29 (not so important since there will be a continuous load on the battery) PowerStream 12v to 24v converter PST-DU700-24 $140 retail price http://www.powerstream.com/ == I was just thinking about powering a few radios, still trying to decide between a 24V battery or 12V plus the extra converter. The Iota plugs into AC and keeps the battery charged. Oh, could you post some pictures of your tower on top of the grain elevator sometime? Especially the base of the tower, just curious on the specifics. (do the guys go all the way to the ground?) -John PS - I thought we grew a lot of corn in Michigan, but I see that Iowa does 8X as much. I think we have 15 ethanol plants built or in the permit process, I hear those will consume the entire state's corn crop. On August 15, at 10:50 AM August 15, Mac Dearman wrote: I have an 80' Rohn 25G tower on top of a 110' concrete grain elevator. This elevators power is giving me fits as they are flipping breakers on and off as they are in full swing with all the corn coming in right now out of the fields. I do have everything on UPS's, but need to move up the ranks for longer run times to 4 larger marine batteries to accomplish longer run times when the breakers are flipped off. Here is my question: Do they make a device that has multiple DC power output voltages (12/18/24/48) that connects directly to a set of batteries with the ability to connect multiple devices and if so - how do you keep your batteries charged? I would like to run my gear directly off the DC power instead of plugging everything into 120vdc and then have the wall warts convert to the DC power. I currently have 10 radios on top of the elevator and it is a major distribution point for the North and East legs of our network. Any and all suggestions are welcomed!! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions
haha, Iowa does produce the most, but just barely ahead of Illinois. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions And I thought *ALL* the corn came from Iowa. :) George Mike Hammett wrote: Wow, you learn something every day. What I've learned today is that down south harvests corn significantly earlier than we do in the corn belt. ;-) What I've wanted to do, but have been so far unable to do is to have a power source (be it a 120 vAC charger, solar cells, wind turbine, etc.) charge an array of batteries (the guys at Mr. Solar said that I should use 48 vDC for the DC systems), and then have a bunch of power supplies that use 48 vDC as the source.I have a PC based MT for my AP and an Orthogon Gemini on my primary tower. I can source 48 vDC power supplies for both. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 9:50 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions I have an 80' Rohn 25G tower on top of a 110' concrete grain elevator. This elevators power is giving me fits as they are flipping breakers on and off as they are in full swing with all the corn coming in right now out of the fields. I do have everything on UPS's, but need to move up the ranks for longer run times to 4 larger marine batteries to accomplish longer run times when the breakers are flipped off. Here is my question: Do they make a device that has multiple DC power output voltages (12/18/24/48) that connects directly to a set of batteries with the ability to connect multiple devices and if so - how do you keep your batteries charged? I would like to run my gear directly off the DC power instead of plugging everything into 120vdc and then have the wall warts convert to the DC power. I currently have 10 radios on top of the elevator and it is a major distribution point for the North and East legs of our network. Any and all suggestions are welcomed!! Thanks folks, Mac WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions
When they run -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl A jeptha Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions Tranzeo's can run at 24volts You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: > Most of the gear is(24 to 48vdc) MikroTik, but there are some Tranzeo TR5A > (18vdc)backhaul radios as well as Trango Tlink 10's (24vdc)and even one > Proxim Radio (48vdc) in place there. > > > Thanks, > Mac > > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Gino Villarini >> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:57 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions >> >> What gear do you need to power on ? >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Mac Dearman >> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:51 AM >> To: 'WISPA General List' >> Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions >> >> >> I have an 80' Rohn 25G tower on top of a 110' concrete grain elevator. >> This >> elevators power is giving me fits as they are flipping breakers on and >> off >> as they are in full swing with all the corn coming in right now out of >> the >> fields. I do have everything on UPS's, but need to move up the ranks >> for >> longer run times to 4 larger marine batteries to accomplish longer run >> times >> when the breakers are flipped off. >> >> Here is my question: Do they make a device that has multiple DC power >> output >> voltages (12/18/24/48) that connects directly to a set of batteries >> with >> the >> ability to connect multiple devices and if so - how do you keep your >> batteries charged? I would like to run my gear directly off the DC >> power >> instead of plugging everything into 120vdc and then have the wall warts >> convert to the DC power. I currently have 10 radios on top of the >> elevator >> and it is a major distribution point for the North and East legs of our >> network. >> >> Any and all suggestions are welcomed!! >> >> Thanks folks, >> Mac >> >> >> --- >> - >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> --- >> - >> >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> --- >> - >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> --- >> - >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.17/951 - Release Date: >> 8/13/2007 10:15 AM >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions
Tranzeo's can run at 24volts You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: Most of the gear is(24 to 48vdc) MikroTik, but there are some Tranzeo TR5A (18vdc)backhaul radios as well as Trango Tlink 10's (24vdc)and even one Proxim Radio (48vdc) in place there. Thanks, Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions What gear do you need to power on ? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:51 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions I have an 80' Rohn 25G tower on top of a 110' concrete grain elevator. This elevators power is giving me fits as they are flipping breakers on and off as they are in full swing with all the corn coming in right now out of the fields. I do have everything on UPS's, but need to move up the ranks for longer run times to 4 larger marine batteries to accomplish longer run times when the breakers are flipped off. Here is my question: Do they make a device that has multiple DC power output voltages (12/18/24/48) that connects directly to a set of batteries with the ability to connect multiple devices and if so - how do you keep your batteries charged? I would like to run my gear directly off the DC power instead of plugging everything into 120vdc and then have the wall warts convert to the DC power. I currently have 10 radios on top of the elevator and it is a major distribution point for the North and East legs of our network. Any and all suggestions are welcomed!! Thanks folks, Mac --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.17/951 - Release Date: 8/13/2007 10:15 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions
And I thought *ALL* the corn came from Iowa. :) George Mike Hammett wrote: Wow, you learn something every day. What I've learned today is that down south harvests corn significantly earlier than we do in the corn belt. ;-) What I've wanted to do, but have been so far unable to do is to have a power source (be it a 120 vAC charger, solar cells, wind turbine, etc.) charge an array of batteries (the guys at Mr. Solar said that I should use 48 vDC for the DC systems), and then have a bunch of power supplies that use 48 vDC as the source.I have a PC based MT for my AP and an Orthogon Gemini on my primary tower. I can source 48 vDC power supplies for both. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 9:50 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions I have an 80' Rohn 25G tower on top of a 110' concrete grain elevator. This elevators power is giving me fits as they are flipping breakers on and off as they are in full swing with all the corn coming in right now out of the fields. I do have everything on UPS's, but need to move up the ranks for longer run times to 4 larger marine batteries to accomplish longer run times when the breakers are flipped off. Here is my question: Do they make a device that has multiple DC power output voltages (12/18/24/48) that connects directly to a set of batteries with the ability to connect multiple devices and if so - how do you keep your batteries charged? I would like to run my gear directly off the DC power instead of plugging everything into 120vdc and then have the wall warts convert to the DC power. I currently have 10 radios on top of the elevator and it is a major distribution point for the North and East legs of our network. Any and all suggestions are welcomed!! Thanks folks, Mac WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions
Here in Illinois, we won't be harvesting our corn for another 2 months. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:08 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions Go to www.raleybros.com (about 10 miles from my home) when the home page comes up just keep refreshing your browser to change the pics displayed. All of the elevators are already running over, the temporary ground storage bins are full and now all the elevators around here are just dumping it on the ground in huge piles. All the river port facilities are backed up for miles with grain trucks trying to haul it out of here and the railroad facilities can't get enough grain cars in to haul it all out of here. Corn flakes ought to be .20 cents a box! Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 8:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions Wow, you learn something every day. What I've learned today is that down south harvests corn significantly earlier than we do in the corn belt. ;-) What I've wanted to do, but have been so far unable to do is to have a power source (be it a 120 vAC charger, solar cells, wind turbine, etc.) charge an array of batteries (the guys at Mr. Solar said that I should use 48 vDC for the DC systems), and then have a bunch of power supplies that use 48 vDC as the source.I have a PC based MT for my AP and an Orthogon Gemini on my primary tower. I can source 48 vDC power supplies for both. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 9:50 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions > > I have an 80' Rohn 25G tower on top of a 110' concrete grain elevator. > This > elevators power is giving me fits as they are flipping breakers on and off > as they are in full swing with all the corn coming in right now out of the > fields. I do have everything on UPS's, but need to move up the ranks for > longer run times to 4 larger marine batteries to accomplish longer run > times > when the breakers are flipped off. > > Here is my question: Do they make a device that has multiple DC power > output > voltages (12/18/24/48) that connects directly to a set of batteries with > the > ability to connect multiple devices and if so - how do you keep your > batteries charged? I would like to run my gear directly off the DC power > instead of plugging everything into 120vdc and then have the wall warts > convert to the DC power. I currently have 10 radios on top of the elevator > and it is a major distribution point for the North and East legs of our > network. > > Any and all suggestions are welcomed!! > > Thanks folks, > Mac > > > - --- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > - --- > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 8/14/2007 5:19 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions
From the National Corn Growers Association: About 8 percent of the weight in a box of corn flakes is corn. Less than 5 percent of the purchase price reflects the corn price. The remainder of the cost is in packaging and advertising. From the Ohio Corn Growers: Corn growers in Ohio rallied recently to get the word out on the true cost impact of rising corn prices. In this media report, there were a number of startling facts concerning the true impact on food costs. "Only 3 cents of corn goes into a box of cereal," "But the cost of a box of corn flakes is so high because of marketing and transportation costs. Same with a bag of corn chips." Corn prices are up about 33 percent from where they were a year ago, but the impact of that price rise is a much smaller part of food cost increases than is being reported "Plain and simple, corn prices are not the sole reason, or even the major reason for higher prices in the grocery aisle today," "Corn is part of a portion of food products," ... "And it is only a small part of those foods where it is included. A large portion of food price increases come from foods that don't contain corn including fish, fruits and vegetables." - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:08 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions Go to www.raleybros.com (about 10 miles from my home) when the home page comes up just keep refreshing your browser to change the pics displayed. All of the elevators are already running over, the temporary ground storage bins are full and now all the elevators around here are just dumping it on the ground in huge piles. All the river port facilities are backed up for miles with grain trucks trying to haul it out of here and the railroad facilities can't get enough grain cars in to haul it all out of here. Corn flakes ought to be .20 cents a box! Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 8:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions Wow, you learn something every day. What I've learned today is that down south harvests corn significantly earlier than we do in the corn belt. ;-) What I've wanted to do, but have been so far unable to do is to have a power source (be it a 120 vAC charger, solar cells, wind turbine, etc.) charge an array of batteries (the guys at Mr. Solar said that I should use 48 vDC for the DC systems), and then have a bunch of power supplies that use 48 vDC as the source.I have a PC based MT for my AP and an Orthogon Gemini on my primary tower. I can source 48 vDC power supplies for both. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 9:50 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions > > I have an 80' Rohn 25G tower on top of a 110' concrete grain elevator. > This > elevators power is giving me fits as they are flipping breakers on and off > as they are in full swing with all the corn coming in right now out of the > fields. I do have everything on UPS's, but need to move up the ranks for > longer run times to 4 larger marine batteries to accomplish longer run > times > when the breakers are flipped off. > > Here is my question: Do they make a device that has multiple DC power > output > voltages (12/18/24/48) that connects directly to a set of batteries with > the > ability to connect multiple devices and if so - how do you keep your > batteries charged? I would like to run my gear directly off the DC power > instead of plugging everything into 120vdc and then have the wall warts > convert to the DC power. I currently have 10 radios on top of the elevator > and it is a major distribution point for the North and East legs of our > network. > > Any and all suggestions are welcomed!! > > Thanks folks, > Mac > > > - --- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > - --- > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ ---
RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions
Go to www.raleybros.com (about 10 miles from my home) when the home page comes up just keep refreshing your browser to change the pics displayed. All of the elevators are already running over, the temporary ground storage bins are full and now all the elevators around here are just dumping it on the ground in huge piles. All the river port facilities are backed up for miles with grain trucks trying to haul it out of here and the railroad facilities can't get enough grain cars in to haul it all out of here. Corn flakes ought to be .20 cents a box! Mac > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 8:21 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions > > Wow, you learn something every day. What I've learned today is that > down > south harvests corn significantly earlier than we do in the corn belt. > ;-) > > What I've wanted to do, but have been so far unable to do is to have a > power > source (be it a 120 vAC charger, solar cells, wind turbine, etc.) > charge an > array of batteries (the guys at Mr. Solar said that I should use 48 vDC > for > the DC systems), and then have a bunch of power supplies that use 48 > vDC as > the source.I have a PC based MT for my AP and an Orthogon Gemini on > my > primary tower. I can source 48 vDC power supplies for both. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 9:50 AM > Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions > > > > > > I have an 80' Rohn 25G tower on top of a 110' concrete grain > elevator. > > This > > elevators power is giving me fits as they are flipping breakers on > and off > > as they are in full swing with all the corn coming in right now out > of the > > fields. I do have everything on UPS's, but need to move up the ranks > for > > longer run times to 4 larger marine batteries to accomplish longer > run > > times > > when the breakers are flipped off. > > > > Here is my question: Do they make a device that has multiple DC power > > output > > voltages (12/18/24/48) that connects directly to a set of batteries > with > > the > > ability to connect multiple devices and if so - how do you keep your > > batteries charged? I would like to run my gear directly off the DC > power > > instead of plugging everything into 120vdc and then have the wall > warts > > convert to the DC power. I currently have 10 radios on top of the > elevator > > and it is a major distribution point for the North and East legs of > our > > network. > > > > Any and all suggestions are welcomed!! > > > > Thanks folks, > > Mac > > > > > > - > --- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > - > --- > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > --- > - > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > - > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: > 8/14/2007 5:19 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions
I haven't tried them yet, but a neighbor that does lots of SCADA work likes the MeanWell AD-15xx series power supplies, battery chargers. Mac Dearman wrote: Most of the gear is(24 to 48vdc) MikroTik, but there are some Tranzeo TR5A (18vdc)backhaul radios as well as Trango Tlink 10's (24vdc)and even one Proxim Radio (48vdc) in place there. Thanks, Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions What gear do you need to power on ? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:51 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions I have an 80' Rohn 25G tower on top of a 110' concrete grain elevator. This elevators power is giving me fits as they are flipping breakers on and off as they are in full swing with all the corn coming in right now out of the fields. I do have everything on UPS's, but need to move up the ranks for longer run times to 4 larger marine batteries to accomplish longer run times when the breakers are flipped off. Here is my question: Do they make a device that has multiple DC power output voltages (12/18/24/48) that connects directly to a set of batteries with the ability to connect multiple devices and if so - how do you keep your batteries charged? I would like to run my gear directly off the DC power instead of plugging everything into 120vdc and then have the wall warts convert to the DC power. I currently have 10 radios on top of the elevator and it is a major distribution point for the North and East legs of our network. Any and all suggestions are welcomed!! Thanks folks, Mac --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.17/951 - Release Date: 8/13/2007 10:15 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions
Wow, you learn something every day. What I've learned today is that down south harvests corn significantly earlier than we do in the corn belt. ;-) What I've wanted to do, but have been so far unable to do is to have a power source (be it a 120 vAC charger, solar cells, wind turbine, etc.) charge an array of batteries (the guys at Mr. Solar said that I should use 48 vDC for the DC systems), and then have a bunch of power supplies that use 48 vDC as the source.I have a PC based MT for my AP and an Orthogon Gemini on my primary tower. I can source 48 vDC power supplies for both. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 9:50 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions I have an 80' Rohn 25G tower on top of a 110' concrete grain elevator. This elevators power is giving me fits as they are flipping breakers on and off as they are in full swing with all the corn coming in right now out of the fields. I do have everything on UPS's, but need to move up the ranks for longer run times to 4 larger marine batteries to accomplish longer run times when the breakers are flipped off. Here is my question: Do they make a device that has multiple DC power output voltages (12/18/24/48) that connects directly to a set of batteries with the ability to connect multiple devices and if so - how do you keep your batteries charged? I would like to run my gear directly off the DC power instead of plugging everything into 120vdc and then have the wall warts convert to the DC power. I currently have 10 radios on top of the elevator and it is a major distribution point for the North and East legs of our network. Any and all suggestions are welcomed!! Thanks folks, Mac WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions
Most of the gear is(24 to 48vdc) MikroTik, but there are some Tranzeo TR5A (18vdc)backhaul radios as well as Trango Tlink 10's (24vdc)and even one Proxim Radio (48vdc) in place there. Thanks, Mac > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Gino Villarini > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:57 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions > > What gear do you need to power on ? > > Gino A. Villarini > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mac Dearman > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:51 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions > > > I have an 80' Rohn 25G tower on top of a 110' concrete grain elevator. > This > elevators power is giving me fits as they are flipping breakers on and > off > as they are in full swing with all the corn coming in right now out of > the > fields. I do have everything on UPS's, but need to move up the ranks > for > longer run times to 4 larger marine batteries to accomplish longer run > times > when the breakers are flipped off. > > Here is my question: Do they make a device that has multiple DC power > output > voltages (12/18/24/48) that connects directly to a set of batteries > with > the > ability to connect multiple devices and if so - how do you keep your > batteries charged? I would like to run my gear directly off the DC > power > instead of plugging everything into 120vdc and then have the wall warts > convert to the DC power. I currently have 10 radios on top of the > elevator > and it is a major distribution point for the North and East legs of our > network. > > Any and all suggestions are welcomed!! > > Thanks folks, > Mac > > > --- > - > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > - > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > --- > - > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > - > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.17/951 - Release Date: > 8/13/2007 10:15 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions
What gear do you need to power on ? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:51 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions I have an 80' Rohn 25G tower on top of a 110' concrete grain elevator. This elevators power is giving me fits as they are flipping breakers on and off as they are in full swing with all the corn coming in right now out of the fields. I do have everything on UPS's, but need to move up the ranks for longer run times to 4 larger marine batteries to accomplish longer run times when the breakers are flipped off. Here is my question: Do they make a device that has multiple DC power output voltages (12/18/24/48) that connects directly to a set of batteries with the ability to connect multiple devices and if so - how do you keep your batteries charged? I would like to run my gear directly off the DC power instead of plugging everything into 120vdc and then have the wall warts convert to the DC power. I currently have 10 radios on top of the elevator and it is a major distribution point for the North and East legs of our network. Any and all suggestions are welcomed!! Thanks folks, Mac WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions
I have an 80' Rohn 25G tower on top of a 110' concrete grain elevator. This elevators power is giving me fits as they are flipping breakers on and off as they are in full swing with all the corn coming in right now out of the fields. I do have everything on UPS's, but need to move up the ranks for longer run times to 4 larger marine batteries to accomplish longer run times when the breakers are flipped off. Here is my question: Do they make a device that has multiple DC power output voltages (12/18/24/48) that connects directly to a set of batteries with the ability to connect multiple devices and if so - how do you keep your batteries charged? I would like to run my gear directly off the DC power instead of plugging everything into 120vdc and then have the wall warts convert to the DC power. I currently have 10 radios on top of the elevator and it is a major distribution point for the North and East legs of our network. Any and all suggestions are welcomed!! Thanks folks, Mac WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/