Re: [WISPA] FCC plans to turn over private data to aid broadband stimulus.
What a web we weave! It all goes back to the money. If they didnt offer the money, they wouldnt need the information. Doesnt anyone care about big government? Since when is it their job to determine where service should or should not be? What will you do when they own you? On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.comwrote: Knew it would happen? Isn't that kind of what the data is FOR in the first place? To determine where there's service and where there isn't...and they don't want to be funding applications where there's already sufficient documented service. Seems to me it's exactly the right thing to do. Chuck On Dec 2, 2009, at 11:29 PM, RickG wrote: I knew this would happen. And thats only what they admit to. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: http://blog.telephonyonline.com/unfiltered/2009/12/01/fcc-plans-to-turn-over-private-data-to-aid-broadband-stimulus/ Scottie Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee? From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC plans to turn over private data to aid broadband stimulus.
This is very interesting, they bailed out GM with our $$ and gave the biggest % to the union that had the least % at risk and/or invested. Now they are throwing our Mgrs left and right and telling them what to pay. Even the union is ticked. They made some banks take the funds along with derivatives and toxic assets, but never changed the rules for loaning money back to the way it was. So no loans still...now the banks are giving the $$ back because of the intrusive nature of the lien holder telling them who can be paid what and many other internal things. A banker friend of mine said It's like a eighth grader coming in telling us how to run our bank, no life experience, no job experience, no work ethic, no ethics discernable, but he's read the book. So these gov types, with NO business experience, especially in your business, are going to lay out the hoops on the quicksand for you to jump in and out of? Good luck to those of you that are becoming part of this, I do hope I'm wrong for your families sake. Too, too many hooks for me. Chuck -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC plans to turn over private data to aid broadband stimulus. What a web we weave! It all goes back to the money. If they didnt offer the money, they wouldnt need the information. Doesnt anyone care about big government? Since when is it their job to determine where service should or should not be? What will you do when they own you? On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.comwrote: Knew it would happen? Isn't that kind of what the data is FOR in the first place? To determine where there's service and where there isn't...and they don't want to be funding applications where there's already sufficient documented service. Seems to me it's exactly the right thing to do. Chuck On Dec 2, 2009, at 11:29 PM, RickG wrote: I knew this would happen. And thats only what they admit to. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: http://blog.telephonyonline.com/unfiltered/2009/12/01/fcc-plans-to-turn-over -private-data-to-aid-broadband-stimulus/ Scottie Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee? From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC plans to turn over private data to aid broadband stimulus.
Boy I'm sure glad that this discussion is staying on the topic of wireless otherwise 100 people would need to jump in right about here and start explaining their political positions :-[ Chuck Profito wrote: This is very interesting, they bailed out GM with our $$ and gave the biggest % to the union that had the least % at risk and/or invested. Now they are throwing our Mgrs left and right and telling them what to pay. Even the union is ticked. They made some banks take the funds along with derivatives and toxic assets, but never changed the rules for loaning money back to the way it was. So no loans still...now the banks are giving the $$ back because of the intrusive nature of the lien holder telling them who can be paid what and many other internal things. A banker friend of mine said "It's like a eighth grader coming in telling us how to run our bank, no life experience, no job experience, no work ethic, no ethics discernable, but he's read the book." So these gov types, with NO business experience, especially in your business, are going to lay out the hoops on the quicksand for you to jump in and out of? Good luck to those of you that are becoming part of this, I do hope I'm wrong for your families sake. Too, too many hooks for me. Chuck -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC plans to turn over private data to aid broadband stimulus. What a web we weave! It all goes back to the money. If they didnt offer the money, they wouldnt need the information. Doesnt anyone care about big government? Since when is it their job to determine where service should or should not be? What will you do when they own you? On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.comwrote: Knew it would happen? Isn't that kind of what the data is FOR in the first place? To determine where there's service and where there isn't...and they don't want to be funding applications where there's already sufficient documented service. Seems to me it's exactly the right thing to do. Chuck On Dec 2, 2009, at 11:29 PM, RickG wrote: I knew this would happen. And thats only what they admit to. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: http://blog.telephonyonline.com/unfiltered/2009/12/01/fcc-plans-to-turn-over -private-data-to-aid-broadband-stimulus/ Scottie Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 "When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee?" From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants Y
Re: [WISPA] FCC plans to turn over private data to aid broadband stimulus.
The topic says FCC plans to turn over private data to aid broadband stimulus. not wireless :) Call it political or whatever, the comments are on topic. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Boy I'm sure glad that this discussion is staying on the topic of wireless otherwise 100 people would need to jump in right about here and start explaining their political positions :-[ Chuck Profito wrote: This is very interesting, they bailed out GM with our $$ and gave the biggest % to the union that had the least % at risk and/or invested. Now they are throwing our Mgrs left and right and telling them what to pay. Even the union is ticked. They made some banks take the funds along with derivatives and toxic assets, but never changed the rules for loaning money back to the way it was. So no loans still...now the banks are giving the $$ back because of the intrusive nature of the lien holder telling them who can be paid what and many other internal things. A banker friend of mine said It's like a eighth grader coming in telling us how to run our bank, no life experience, no job experience, no work ethic, no ethics discernable, but he's read the book. So these gov types, with NO business experience, especially in your business, are going to lay out the hoops on the quicksand for you to jump in and out of? Good luck to those of you that are becoming part of this, I do hope I'm wrong for your families sake. Too, too many hooks for me. Chuck -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC plans to turn over private data to aid broadband stimulus. What a web we weave! It all goes back to the money. If they didnt offer the money, they wouldnt need the information. Doesnt anyone care about big government? Since when is it their job to determine where service should or should not be? What will you do when they own you? On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartoschch...@clarityconnect.com ch...@clarityconnect.comwrote: Knew it would happen? Isn't that kind of what the data is FOR in the first place? To determine where there's service and where there isn't...and they don't want to be funding applications where there's already sufficient documented service. Seems to me it's exactly the right thing to do. Chuck On Dec 2, 2009, at 11:29 PM, RickG wrote: I knew this would happen. And thats only what they admit to. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: http://blog.telephonyonline.com/unfiltered/2009/12/01/fcc-plans-to-turn-over -private-data-to-aid-broadband-stimulus/ Scottie Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee? From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] FCC plans to turn over private data to aid broadband stimulus.
I agree with Rick, Chuck and Travis thus far. Nothing is free and unfortunately the cancer our government has spawned is spreading into our industry right along with autos, banks, health care, etc, etc. That is clearly why this is on topic. Government doesn't create anything much less create jobs. The American entrepreneur is who creates jobs... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC plans to turn over private data to aid broadband stimulus. The topic says FCC plans to turn over private data to aid broadband stimulus. not wireless :) Call it political or whatever, the comments are on topic. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Boy I'm sure glad that this discussion is staying on the topic of wireless otherwise 100 people would need to jump in right about here and start explaining their political positions :-[ Chuck Profito wrote: This is very interesting, they bailed out GM with our $$ and gave the biggest % to the union that had the least % at risk and/or invested. Now they are throwing our Mgrs left and right and telling them what to pay. Even the union is ticked. They made some banks take the funds along with derivatives and toxic assets, but never changed the rules for loaning money back to the way it was. So no loans still...now the banks are giving the $$ back because of the intrusive nature of the lien holder telling them who can be paid what and many other internal things. A banker friend of mine said It's like a eighth grader coming in telling us how to run our bank, no life experience, no job experience, no work ethic, no ethics discernable, but he's read the book. So these gov types, with NO business experience, especially in your business, are going to lay out the hoops on the quicksand for you to jump in and out of? Good luck to those of you that are becoming part of this, I do hope I'm wrong for your families sake. Too, too many hooks for me. Chuck -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC plans to turn over private data to aid broadband stimulus. What a web we weave! It all goes back to the money. If they didnt offer the money, they wouldnt need the information. Doesnt anyone care about big government? Since when is it their job to determine where service should or should not be? What will you do when they own you? On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartoschch...@clarityconnect.com ch...@clarityconnect.comwrote: Knew it would happen? Isn't that kind of what the data is FOR in the first place? To determine where there's service and where there isn't...and they don't want to be funding applications where there's already sufficient documented service. Seems to me it's exactly the right thing to do. Chuck On Dec 2, 2009, at 11:29 PM, RickG wrote: I knew this would happen. And thats only what they admit to. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: http://blog.telephonyonline.com/unfiltered/2009/12/01/fcc-plans-to-turn-over -private-data-to-aid-broadband-stimulus/ Scottie Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee? From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List
[WISPA] FCC plans to turn over private data to aid broadband stimulus.
http://blog.telephonyonline.com/unfiltered/2009/12/01/fcc-plans-to-turn-over-private-data-to-aid-broadband-stimulus/ Scottie Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC plans to turn over private data to aid broadband stimulus.
I knew this would happen. And thats only what they admit to. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: http://blog.telephonyonline.com/unfiltered/2009/12/01/fcc-plans-to-turn-over-private-data-to-aid-broadband-stimulus/ Scottie Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
