Re: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted byLead Government Agencies

2009-02-27 Thread Steve Smith
Since others have not responded to this yet, I will say that I know that
WISPA will have at least one representative present in person at the
meeting.

I spoke with a RUS representative yesterday asking for more information on
how they plan on dealing with the stimulus program.   Their response was
this:

Please follow our web site.   Yes, we know it hasn't been updated in weeks.
We will be holding a joint meeting with NTIA on the 10th.  After that we
will post more information on the site. Yes, we know that the loan program
information on our site doesn't work.  You are still welcome to submit a
request but since the forms are invalid it probably won't do any good until
we issue new ones at some unknown date in the future.  We are aware that
that NTIA is holding meetings with groups starting March 2 but RUS is not
prepared to do that.  Please watch the web site for updates.


NTIA gives the impression that they are far more organized than RUS however,
that may just be RUS feeling that the less information they give out the
more likely they are to be able to direct the money to the people they
prefer.



Steve Smith
Chase 3000
Imperial, NE 69033
st...@chase3000.com
308 882-3000
308 883-3001 cell
 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 8:14 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted
byLead Government Agencies

Is WISPA planning on being at this meeting?

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:

 Is there any chance we can get this meeting streamed Live?

 Steve Barnes
 RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Joe Miller
 Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:02 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted by
Lead
 Government Agencies

 To everyone keeping an eye on this:


 --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Lipman, Andrew D. andrew.lip...@bingham.com wrote:

  From: Lipman, Andrew D. andrew.lip...@bingham.com
  Subject: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted by Lead
  Government Agencies
  To:
  Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:17 PM The three principle
  agencies responsible for awarding billions of dollars to the telecom
  industry -- NTIA, USDA, and the FCC -- will host a public meeting in
  D.C. to discuss the broadband initiatives funded by the economic
  stimulus legislation, including the new Broadband Technology
  Opportunities Program, the new Rural Development Broadband Program,
  and the development of a National Broadband Plan.
 
  The meeting will take place on March 10 at the U.S.
  Department of Commerce.  As seating will be limited, the meeting will
  also be broadcast over the web.  The attached announcement will appear
  in the tomorrow's Federal Register.
 
  We will be attending the presentation to monitor issues that could
  impact the application process for those funds.
 
  Please contact either myself or Frank Lamancusa (202-373-6812), if you
  would like to discuss the opportunities that the legislation can bring
  to your company.
 
  Andy
 
  Andrew D. Lipman
  Partner, Practice Group Leader
  T 202.373.6033
  F 202.373.6001
  andrew.lip...@bingham.com
 
  B I N G H A M
  Bingham McCutchen LLP
  2020 K Street NW
  Washington, DC 20006-1806
 
 
 
 


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Re: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted byLead Government Agencies

2009-02-27 Thread Joe Miller

wtfover


--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Steve Smith st...@chase3000.com wrote:

 From: Steve Smith st...@chase3000.com
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted 
 byLead Government Agencies
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 11:10 AM
 Since others have not responded to this yet, I will say that
 I know that
 WISPA will have at least one representative present in
 person at the
 meeting.
 
 I spoke with a RUS representative yesterday asking for more
 information on
 how they plan on dealing with the stimulus program.   Their
 response was
 this:
 
 Please follow our web site.   Yes, we know it
 hasn't been updated in weeks.
 We will be holding a joint meeting with NTIA on the 10th. 
 After that we
 will post more information on the site. Yes, we know that
 the loan program
 information on our site doesn't work.  You are still
 welcome to submit a
 request but since the forms are invalid it probably
 won't do any good until
 we issue new ones at some unknown date in the future.  We
 are aware that
 that NTIA is holding meetings with groups starting March 2
 but RUS is not
 prepared to do that.  Please watch the web site for
 updates.
 
 
 NTIA gives the impression that they are far more organized
 than RUS however,
 that may just be RUS feeling that the less information they
 give out the
 more likely they are to be able to direct the money to the
 people they
 prefer.
 
 
 
 Steve Smith
 Chase 3000
 Imperial, NE 69033
 st...@chase3000.com
 308 882-3000
 308 883-3001 cell
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband
 Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 8:14 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public
 Meeting Hosted
 byLead Government Agencies
 
 Is WISPA planning on being at this meeting?
 
 On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Steve Barnes
 st...@pcswin.com wrote:
 
  Is there any chance we can get this meeting streamed
 Live?
 
  Steve Barnes
  RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Joe Miller
  Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:02 PM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public
 Meeting Hosted by
 Lead
  Government Agencies
 
  To everyone keeping an eye on this:
 
 
  --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Lipman, Andrew D.
 andrew.lip...@bingham.com wrote:
 
   From: Lipman, Andrew D.
 andrew.lip...@bingham.com
   Subject: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting
 Hosted by Lead
   Government Agencies
   To:
   Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:17 PM The
 three principle
   agencies responsible for awarding billions of
 dollars to the telecom
   industry -- NTIA, USDA, and the FCC -- will host
 a public meeting in
   D.C. to discuss the broadband initiatives funded
 by the economic
   stimulus legislation, including the new Broadband
 Technology
   Opportunities Program, the new Rural Development
 Broadband Program,
   and the development of a National Broadband Plan.
  
   The meeting will take place on March 10 at the
 U.S.
   Department of Commerce.  As seating will be
 limited, the meeting will
   also be broadcast over the web.  The attached
 announcement will appear
   in the tomorrow's Federal Register.
  
   We will be attending the presentation to monitor
 issues that could
   impact the application process for those funds.
  
   Please contact either myself or Frank Lamancusa
 (202-373-6812), if you
   would like to discuss the opportunities that the
 legislation can bring
   to your company.
  
   Andy
  
   Andrew D. Lipman
   Partner, Practice Group Leader
   T 202.373.6033
   F 202.373.6001
   andrew.lip...@bingham.com
  
   B I N G H A M
   Bingham McCutchen LLP
   2020 K Street NW
   Washington, DC 20006-1806
  
  
  
  
 
 
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 ensure
   compliance with IRS requirements, we inform you
 that any U.S. federal
   tax advice contained in this communication is not
 intended or written
   to be used, and cannot be used by any taxpayer,
 for the purpose of
   avoiding any federal tax penalties.  Any legal
 advice expressed in
   this message is being delivered to you solely for
 your use in
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted byLead Government Agencies

2009-02-27 Thread Rick Harnish
Here are some bullet points from release by a think tank in DC.  Some of
which are positive, some are negative concerning WISPs.  I included this so
that everyone could see the other perspectives being lobbied to the NTIA and
RUS.

 

1) Protect the open Internet: The NTIA and FCC should prohibit grant
recipients from selling any service that violates open Internet principles
and should require recipients to offer interconnection on a reasonable and
nondiscriminatory basis.

 

2) Promote speed: The NTIA should establish speed guidelines and benchmarks
and require grant applicants to detail actual -- not advertised -- network
speeds, with priority given to next-generation projects.

 

3) Provide clarity: The NTIA and FCC should adopt definitions of unserved
and underserved areas that are based on U.S. Census Bureau geographic
boundaries (either census blocks, block groups or tracts), and are informed
by new FCC broadband data.

 

4) Prevent waste: The NTIA should require grant applicants to provide
extensive documentation showing how their proposed project qualifies as a
new investment.

 

5) Gather information: The FCC should immediately initiate proceedings to
gather data and ideas to inform the national broadband strategy.

 

6) Focus resources: The NTIA should refocus the $350 million currently
allocated for state broadband mapping toward projects that work to stimulate
broadband demand, because the FCC is already collecting this data.

 

7) Remove roadblocks: The RUS should eliminate current regulations that
restrict broadband upgrades, create barriers to new entrants and undermine
competition.

 

8) Ensure transparency: The NTIA and RUS should create a single, publicly
accessible online database that hosts all the information relevant to the
broadband projects funded by the Stimulus Act.

 

Respectively,

Rick

 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Smith
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:10 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted
byLead Government Agencies

 

Since others have not responded to this yet, I will say that I know that

WISPA will have at least one representative present in person at the

meeting.

 

I spoke with a RUS representative yesterday asking for more information on

how they plan on dealing with the stimulus program.   Their response was

this:

 

Please follow our web site.   Yes, we know it hasn't been updated in weeks.

We will be holding a joint meeting with NTIA on the 10th.  After that we

will post more information on the site. Yes, we know that the loan program

information on our site doesn't work.  You are still welcome to submit a

request but since the forms are invalid it probably won't do any good until

we issue new ones at some unknown date in the future.  We are aware that

that NTIA is holding meetings with groups starting March 2 but RUS is not

prepared to do that.  Please watch the web site for updates.

 

 

NTIA gives the impression that they are far more organized than RUS however,

that may just be RUS feeling that the less information they give out the

more likely they are to be able to direct the money to the people they

prefer.

 

 

 

Steve Smith

Chase 3000

Imperial, NE 69033

st...@chase3000.com

308 882-3000

308 883-3001 cell

 

 

-Original Message-

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband

Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 8:14 AM

To: WISPA General List

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted

byLead Government Agencies

 

Is WISPA planning on being at this meeting?

 

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:

 

 Is there any chance we can get this meeting streamed Live?

 

 Steve Barnes

 RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service

 

 

 -Original Message-

 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

 Behalf Of Joe Miller

 Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:02 PM

 To: wireless@wispa.org

 Subject: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted by

Lead

 Government Agencies

 

 To everyone keeping an eye on this:

 

 

 --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Lipman, Andrew D. andrew.lip...@bingham.com wrote:

 

  From: Lipman, Andrew D. andrew.lip...@bingham.com

  Subject: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted by Lead

  Government Agencies

  To:

  Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:17 PM The three principle

  agencies responsible for awarding billions of dollars to the telecom

  industry -- NTIA, USDA, and the FCC -- will host a public meeting in

  D.C. to discuss the broadband initiatives funded by the economic

  stimulus legislation, including the new Broadband Technology

  Opportunities Program, the new Rural Development Broadband Program,

  and the development of a National Broadband Plan

Re: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted byLead Government Agencies

2009-02-27 Thread David E. Smith
Rick Harnish wrote:

 2) Promote speed: The NTIA should establish speed guidelines and benchmarks
 and require grant applicants to detail actual -- not advertised -- network
 speeds, with priority given to next-generation projects.

Did the language defining next-generation as 100Mbps down/20Mbps up 
make it into the final bill?

(If so, does anyone have any idea at all how to deliver next-gen 
service wirelessly on the typical WISP budget? I'm somewhat doubtful, 
but...)

David Smith
MVN.net




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Re: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted byLead Government Agencies

2009-02-27 Thread John McDowell
Make sure the grant can go towards obtaining De Facto transfer lease of EBS
spectrum.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:

 Here are some bullet points from release by a think tank in DC.  Some of
 which are positive, some are negative concerning WISPs.  I included this so
 that everyone could see the other perspectives being lobbied to the NTIA
 and
 RUS.



 1) Protect the open Internet: The NTIA and FCC should prohibit grant
 recipients from selling any service that violates open Internet principles
 and should require recipients to offer interconnection on a reasonable and
 nondiscriminatory basis.



 2) Promote speed: The NTIA should establish speed guidelines and benchmarks
 and require grant applicants to detail actual -- not advertised -- network
 speeds, with priority given to next-generation projects.



 3) Provide clarity: The NTIA and FCC should adopt definitions of unserved
 and underserved areas that are based on U.S. Census Bureau geographic
 boundaries (either census blocks, block groups or tracts), and are informed
 by new FCC broadband data.



 4) Prevent waste: The NTIA should require grant applicants to provide
 extensive documentation showing how their proposed project qualifies as a
 new investment.



 5) Gather information: The FCC should immediately initiate proceedings to
 gather data and ideas to inform the national broadband strategy.



 6) Focus resources: The NTIA should refocus the $350 million currently
 allocated for state broadband mapping toward projects that work to
 stimulate
 broadband demand, because the FCC is already collecting this data.



 7) Remove roadblocks: The RUS should eliminate current regulations that
 restrict broadband upgrades, create barriers to new entrants and undermine
 competition.



 8) Ensure transparency: The NTIA and RUS should create a single, publicly
 accessible online database that hosts all the information relevant to the
 broadband projects funded by the Stimulus Act.



 Respectively,

 Rick



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Steve Smith
 Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:10 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted
 byLead Government Agencies



 Since others have not responded to this yet, I will say that I know that

 WISPA will have at least one representative present in person at the

 meeting.



 I spoke with a RUS representative yesterday asking for more information on

 how they plan on dealing with the stimulus program.   Their response was

 this:



 Please follow our web site.   Yes, we know it hasn't been updated in
 weeks.

 We will be holding a joint meeting with NTIA on the 10th.  After that we

 will post more information on the site. Yes, we know that the loan program

 information on our site doesn't work.  You are still welcome to submit a

 request but since the forms are invalid it probably won't do any good until

 we issue new ones at some unknown date in the future.  We are aware that

 that NTIA is holding meetings with groups starting March 2 but RUS is not

 prepared to do that.  Please watch the web site for updates.





 NTIA gives the impression that they are far more organized than RUS
 however,

 that may just be RUS feeling that the less information they give out the

 more likely they are to be able to direct the money to the people they

 prefer.







 Steve Smith

 Chase 3000

 Imperial, NE 69033

 st...@chase3000.com

 308 882-3000

 308 883-3001 cell





 -Original Message-

 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

 Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband

 Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 8:14 AM

 To: WISPA General List

 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted

 byLead Government Agencies



 Is WISPA planning on being at this meeting?



 On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:



  Is there any chance we can get this meeting streamed Live?

 

  Steve Barnes

  RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service

 

 

  -Original Message-

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

  Behalf Of Joe Miller

  Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:02 PM

  To: wireless@wispa.org

  Subject: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted by

 Lead

  Government Agencies

 

  To everyone keeping an eye on this:

 

 

  --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Lipman, Andrew D. andrew.lip...@bingham.com
 wrote:

 

   From: Lipman, Andrew D. andrew.lip...@bingham.com

   Subject: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted by Lead

   Government Agencies

   To:

   Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:17 PM The three principle

   agencies responsible for awarding billions of dollars to the telecom

   industry -- NTIA, USDA, and the FCC -- will host a public meeting in

   D.C. to discuss the broadband

Re: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted byLead Government Agencies

2009-02-27 Thread Mike Hammett
I thought that next gen wireless had a different set of numbers defined.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 1:38 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting
HostedbyLeadGovernment Agencies

 Rick Harnish wrote:

 2) Promote speed: The NTIA should establish speed guidelines and 
 benchmarks
 and require grant applicants to detail actual -- not advertised --  
 network
 speeds, with priority given to next-generation projects.

 Did the language defining next-generation as 100Mbps down/20Mbps up
 make it into the final bill?

 (If so, does anyone have any idea at all how to deliver next-gen
 service wirelessly on the typical WISP budget? I'm somewhat doubtful,
 but...)

 David Smith
 MVN.net



 
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