Re: [WISPA] Fwd: FCC expected to officially proposeDSLderegulationonThursday

2005-08-06 Thread John Thomas



Charles Wu wrote:



If anyone recalls the argument I had with Charles Wu...about how I would
NEVER surrender ownership of every part of my own network, from customer to
carrier hotel if there was any way of keeping it...


So here's the caveat...

If you refuse to be regulated, then you shouldn't complain when the FCC
rewrites the rules and stops regulating phone/cable incumbents

You can't have "double standards" - and they can always put up a super-mesh
network and trash your spectrum (in Chicago, SBC DSL modems now come w/ WiFi
access points turned on broadcasting away...sure, it's a convenience to the
consumers, but I cannot but wonder if this is an "insidious method" of
trashing 2.4 muni-wifi / wisp networks)

 


Especially when those wireless routers put out 400 mW.

John




-Charles

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Re: [WISPA] Fwd: FCC expected to officially proposeDSLderegulationonThursday

2005-08-04 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I feel that we are kind of self regulated, where as the "big boys", when 
left unregulated, go crazy.


Charles Wu wrote:



If anyone recalls the argument I had with Charles Wu...about how I would
NEVER surrender ownership of every part of my own network, from customer to
carrier hotel if there was any way of keeping it...


So here's the caveat...

If you refuse to be regulated, then you shouldn't complain when the FCC
rewrites the rules and stops regulating phone/cable incumbents

You can't have "double standards" - and they can always put up a super-mesh
network and trash your spectrum (in Chicago, SBC DSL modems now come w/ WiFi
access points turned on broadcasting away...sure, it's a convenience to the
consumers, but I cannot but wonder if this is an "insidious method" of
trashing 2.4 muni-wifi / wisp networks)

-Charles

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WISPNOG Park City, UT
http://www.wispnog.com
August 15-17, 2005

 


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Re: [WISPA] Fwd: FCC expected to officially proposeDSLderegulationonThursday

2005-08-04 Thread Bo Hamilton
This is why we need our own spectrum boy and girls  I have seen a 
40% increase in noise in my area.  They all come from Linksys, D-link 
and others on my downtown tower. 


Bo



Barry at Mutual Data wrote:


Hello Charles,

(in Chicago, SBC DSL modems now come w/ WiFi
CW> access points turned on broadcasting away...sure, it's a convenience to the
CW> consumers, but I cannot but wonder if this is an "insidious method" of
CW> trashing 2.4 muni-wifi / wisp networks)

We have a village of about 400 homes that has veriscum dsl with
wireless AP's all over it now. You can pretty much stay connected anywhere in 
that
town and stay on the verizon "hotspot".  No one needs a 200mw AP in
their house IMO.

Barry


 



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Re[2]: [WISPA] Fwd: FCC expected to officially proposeDSLderegulationonThursday

2005-08-04 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello Charles,

 (in Chicago, SBC DSL modems now come w/ WiFi
CW> access points turned on broadcasting away...sure, it's a convenience to the
CW> consumers, but I cannot but wonder if this is an "insidious method" of
CW> trashing 2.4 muni-wifi / wisp networks)

We have a village of about 400 homes that has veriscum dsl with
wireless AP's all over it now. You can pretty much stay connected anywhere in 
that
town and stay on the verizon "hotspot".  No one needs a 200mw AP in
their house IMO.

Barry


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RE: [WISPA] Fwd: FCC expected to officially proposeDSLderegulationonThursday

2005-08-04 Thread Charles Wu

If anyone recalls the argument I had with Charles Wu...about how I would
NEVER surrender ownership of every part of my own network, from customer to
carrier hotel if there was any way of keeping it...


So here's the caveat...

If you refuse to be regulated, then you shouldn't complain when the FCC
rewrites the rules and stops regulating phone/cable incumbents

You can't have "double standards" - and they can always put up a super-mesh
network and trash your spectrum (in Chicago, SBC DSL modems now come w/ WiFi
access points turned on broadcasting away...sure, it's a convenience to the
consumers, but I cannot but wonder if this is an "insidious method" of
trashing 2.4 muni-wifi / wisp networks)

-Charles

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August 15-17, 2005

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