Re: [WISPA] Hotspot/Billing/AAA options?
Julius- from what I heard, they are don’t allow different rates per portal. All fees have to be the same, everywhere. Is that true? I have corresponded with them and they seem to only do Email, won’t get on the phone, and the communication with them was difficult due to what I perceived as a language barrier. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Julius Igugu Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:31 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot/Billing/AAA options? Hello, Radius Manager with Mikrotik Hospot should handle multiple portals. Julius Igugu. Sent from Samsung tablet ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org mailto:ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: We have multiple hotspots, each with a customized portal. Anyone using DMA Softlabs RADIUS Manager for their hotspots? How about the Gatespot system that Butch sells? (I spoke on the phone to a couple of Gatespot users already but I don’t think they used customized portals) I don’t think Mikrotik User Manager even does multiple portals, but please let me know if you are using it for that. What do you think of them? Know of any others? Ralph Brightlan.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot/Billing/AAA options?
Hello, Radius Manager with Mikrotik Hospot should handle multiple portals. Julius Igugu. Sent from Samsung tabletralph ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote:We have multiple hotspots, each with a customized portal. Anyone using DMA Softlabs RADIUS Manager for their hotspots? How about the Gatespot system that Butch sells? (I spoke on the phone to a couple of Gatespot users already but I don’t think they used customized portals) I don’t think Mikrotik User Manager even does multiple portals, but please let me know if you are using it for that. What do you think of them? Know of any others? Ralph Brightlan.net___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot/Billing/AAA options?
Hi Ralph regarding the DMA Softlabs RADIUS Manager, it works with just one tariff profile. If you have multiple hotspots or things like that, it's not very flexible. Also take into account that a customized portal, it's not difficult to achieve if you store the portal (the code) on the mikrotik. But obviously the plan management would be complex if all those portals have different plan (or you have to reverse the revenues on somebody) Therefore if it's just different portals all with the same tarif plan, you can use that product just simply customizing the hotspot html code on the mikrotik, but you would have the code spread all over the routers which does not sound a good idea Paolo We have multiple hotspots, each with a customized portal. Anyone using DMA Softlabs RADIUS Manager for their hotspots? How about the Gatespot system that Butch sells? (I spoke on the phone to a couple of Gatespot users already but I don’t think they used customized portals) I don’t think Mikrotik User Manager even does multiple portals, but please let me know if you are using it for that. What do you think of them? Know of any others? Ralph Brightlan.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot/Billing/AAA options?
Thanks for that info, Paolo. One rate plan would never work for us, that is for sure. And DMA's support seems like it may all be only via Email, and probably from a time zone well ahead of ours. Wireless Orbit informed me yesterday that their Version 3 system is almost ready for release. It has a lot of what we wanted added, so we may wait for that. Ralph Brightlan -Original Message- From: Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 6:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot/Billing/AAA options? Hi Ralph regarding the DMA Softlabs RADIUS Manager, it works with just one tariff profile. If you have multiple hotspots or things like that, it's not very flexible. Also take into account that a customized portal, it's not difficult to achieve if you store the portal (the code) on the mikrotik. But obviously the plan management would be complex if all those portals have different plan (or you have to reverse the revenues on somebody) Therefore if it's just different portals all with the same tarif plan, you can use that product just simply customizing the hotspot html code on the mikrotik, but you would have the code spread all over the routers which does not sound a good idea Paolo We have multiple hotspots, each with a customized portal. Anyone using DMA Softlabs RADIUS Manager for their hotspots? How about the Gatespot system that Butch sells? (I spoke on the phone to a couple of Gatespot users already but I don't think they used customized portals) I don't think Mikrotik User Manager even does multiple portals, but please let me know if you are using it for that. What do you think of them? Know of any others? Ralph Brightlan.net Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot/Billing/AAA options?
Thanks for the great comparison, Butch. You and I talked a couple of years ago about Gatespot. I did some searching and actually ran across some Gatespot systems in use. I then spoke to the operators of them. None of them seemed to use it heavily and not really for the type of use we have, and to be quite honest, the screens I saw were pretty unimpressive. Mostly just a blank page with some fill-in blocks in an odd looking font- very similar to the Gatespot demo pages. I don't say that ours (which are a template from Wireless Orbit) are works of art, but they aren't bad and they are easy to customize ourselves. I don't doubt that is can be very customizable and heard lots of great comments about Eje and his support and eagerness to help, but also I heard that most customization HAD to be done by him. Maybe that user just didn't want to do the php code? That's OK, as long as Eje's available, but it sort of locks us into a corner- especially if we have a need that is more immediate than he can support. I would love to see a Gatespot application where the owner has done some customization and has really nice looking screens for the customer side. Butch, if you can help us find a user who has really got a good example of Gatespot in use, please help us make contact. For those systems who actually put the login templates on the Mikrotik instead of redirecting like Wireless Orbit does, I saw some very nice ones on the MT forum. Of course no one helps out by sharing their code. We have one location where we provide a public free access 35 AP Tropos Muni-Mesh run by a Mikrotik hotspot. It uses the Mikrotik trial login feature with some code change to hide the signup part and just require a click acceptance of terms and conditions. I wrote the initial page and embedded the MT secret sauce and then gave it to the customer's web designer. They then applied the organization's look and feel and the thing came out looking darn nice! They even made a mobile version for phones. It is a great success. Incidentally, it uses Mikrotik's cookies to allow the users to revisit with their devices up to 30 days later and use the system without having to even see the splash page. Perfect for Cellular data offload for these folks. At the moment there are 2715 cookies issued. Thanks, Ralph Brightlan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot/Billing/AAA options? On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 20:07 -0400, ralph wrote: Anyone using DMA Softlabs RADIUS Manager for their hotspots? I have a few customers using that software. It's decent, but it is a bear to install and set up unless you use the precise versions he recommends. Last time I looked, it was an older version of Freeradius, but I seem to recall that he has updated to use FreeRadius 2.x. How about the Gatespot system that Butch sells? This is actually software written by Eje of Wisp-Router. It is by far the most flexible system I've ever seen. (I spoke on the phone to a couple of Gatespot users already but I don’t think they used customized portals) It is up to you how you create the portal. It's just some php code embedded in your web page. It's very flexible. I don’t think Mikrotik User Manager even does multiple portals, but please let me know if you are using it for that. User Manager only allows one web page/portal per installation. -- * Butch Evans* Professional Network Consultation * * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE!* * 702-537-0979 * ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Hotspot/Billing/AAA options?
We have multiple hotspots, each with a customized portal. Anyone using DMA Softlabs RADIUS Manager for their hotspots? How about the Gatespot system that Butch sells? (I spoke on the phone to a couple of Gatespot users already but I don't think they used customized portals) I don't think Mikrotik User Manager even does multiple portals, but please let me know if you are using it for that. What do you think of them? Know of any others? Ralph Brightlan.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot/Billing/AAA options?
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 20:07 -0400, ralph wrote: Anyone using DMA Softlabs RADIUS Manager for their hotspots? I have a few customers using that software. It's decent, but it is a bear to install and set up unless you use the precise versions he recommends. Last time I looked, it was an older version of Freeradius, but I seem to recall that he has updated to use FreeRadius 2.x. How about the Gatespot system that Butch sells? This is actually software written by Eje of Wisp-Router. It is by far the most flexible system I've ever seen. (I spoke on the phone to a couple of Gatespot users already but I don’t think they used customized portals) It is up to you how you create the portal. It's just some php code embedded in your web page. It's very flexible. I don’t think Mikrotik User Manager even does multiple portals, but please let me know if you are using it for that. User Manager only allows one web page/portal per installation. -- * Butch Evans* Professional Network Consultation * * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE!* * 702-537-0979 * ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
