RE: [WISPA] MDU info?
Nowadays...we're finding that most MDU owners don't want to talk to you unless you can do a triple play (data, voice, video) VoIP is pretty commonplace, and an IP-Video residential play is becoming a reality for a lot out there...we've rolled out triple play services, and in new buildings, we deliberately convince the builders to wire the building with Cat-5e / fiber (no coax) so cablecos have no chance competing It's a nice business to be in -Charles P.S. -- After selling the WISP, I have now invested in some MDUs...and even as a technologically savy MDU owner, dealing with multiple vendors / contractors / etc (and the insurance headaches, access, etc) is a [EMAIL PROTECTED]@# nightmare...in my case, telecommunications is last on the list of things I want to deal with (e.g., gas and rising electricity costs are big right now) -- just having a single point of contact for all of my telecommunications needs (e.g., triple play provider) is huge --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Valenti Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 3:00 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] MDU info? I'm hoping someone here can point me to good info sources on MDU networking. (I did a quick search and didn't find much specifically on multiple dwelling unit) I'm a very small wireless ISP. Right now my Internet source is a DSL on top of a city water tower. I'll need more bandwidth in a few months, and access to the water tower is problematic (call in advance, iffy on weekends, etc). There is a new loft project in this town (80 res units plus a few store fronts), I'm trying to become the preferred ISP for them. The builder is running Cat5 to all the lofts, and I could get a fiber line into the building and reasonably priced bandwidth. I'm thinking a short tower on this 5 story building would link up to a grain leg I have a few miles away, giving my wireless net a faster / better connection to the net. My questions are: * is it typical that the property owner gets a kickback for using his Cat5? * seems like the only equipment I would need for the lofts is a good switch and a router to handle bandwidth shaping? * anything else I could offer that would make my offer more attractive to the property manager? Thanks for pointers to any more details on this line of business. Sorry to hijack the wireless list... -John PS - I have done department level network support for many years (50 - 100 computers). And I'm hoping to stay away from phone and video service for now. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MDU info?
If he has the cable or not, its your net. The idea is to make it appear as a "important Service" for you to come in and provide data on his cable. as you said a MT and a managed switch would work wonders, or you can just plug it all in and run PPPoE over the Ethernet (my way). Something else you can do, is setup a hotspot (where they're pppoe username/password would work) in public areas. He may wish to charge you for the tower to get to your network, but that would be a worth while expense I would think. Should he get a kickback, yep, a % that you two agree upon. use the words "You don't have to do anything" that's the kinds of thing you want. If you want more, you could have him pay for the monthly in each of the renters rental price. This would be nice as there is not much for you to do! Turn it on, put some PCQs in and let them run. Dennis On 6/18/07, John Valenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm hoping someone here can point me to good info sources on MDU networking. (I did a quick search and didn't find much specifically on multiple dwelling unit) I'm a very small wireless ISP. Right now my Internet source is a DSL on top of a city water tower. I'll need more bandwidth in a few months, and access to the water tower is problematic (call in advance, iffy on weekends, etc). There is a new loft project in this town (80 res units plus a few store fronts), I'm trying to become the preferred ISP for them. The builder is running Cat5 to all the lofts, and I could get a fiber line into the building and reasonably priced bandwidth. I'm thinking a short tower on this 5 story building would link up to a grain leg I have a few miles away, giving my wireless net a faster / better connection to the net. My questions are: * is it typical that the property owner gets a kickback for using his Cat5? * seems like the only equipment I would need for the lofts is a good switch and a router to handle bandwidth shaping? * anything else I could offer that would make my offer more attractive to the property manager? Thanks for pointers to any more details on this line of business. Sorry to hijack the wireless list... -John PS - I have done department level network support for many years (50 - 100 computers). And I'm hoping to stay away from phone and video service for now. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified Consultant www.mikrotikconsulting.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] MDU info?
I'm hoping someone here can point me to good info sources on MDU networking. (I did a quick search and didn't find much specifically on multiple dwelling unit) I'm a very small wireless ISP. Right now my Internet source is a DSL on top of a city water tower. I'll need more bandwidth in a few months, and access to the water tower is problematic (call in advance, iffy on weekends, etc). There is a new loft project in this town (80 res units plus a few store fronts), I'm trying to become the preferred ISP for them. The builder is running Cat5 to all the lofts, and I could get a fiber line into the building and reasonably priced bandwidth. I'm thinking a short tower on this 5 story building would link up to a grain leg I have a few miles away, giving my wireless net a faster / better connection to the net. My questions are: * is it typical that the property owner gets a kickback for using his Cat5? * seems like the only equipment I would need for the lofts is a good switch and a router to handle bandwidth shaping? * anything else I could offer that would make my offer more attractive to the property manager? Thanks for pointers to any more details on this line of business. Sorry to hijack the wireless list... -John PS - I have done department level network support for many years (50 - 100 computers). And I'm hoping to stay away from phone and video service for now. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
