Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. /2cents Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Mac Dearman li...@inetsouth.com Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was free :-) , but it sure is sweet Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy... We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem.. On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote: We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but they have really nice webmail. YMMV, GL Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini was. But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the customer's communications. Tucows doesn't. About how much is Tucows per box? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Did you talk to the Irish people? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. /2cents Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Mac Dearman li...@inetsouth.com *Sent*: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was free :-) , but it sure is sweet Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy... We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem.. On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote: We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but they have really nice webmail. YMMV, GL Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini was. But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the customer's communications. Tucows doesn't. About how much is Tucows per box? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Did you talk to the Irish people? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. /2cents Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Mac Dearman li...@inetsouth.com Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was free :-) , but it sure is sweet Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy... We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem.. On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote: We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but they have really nice webmail. YMMV, GL Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini was. But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the customer's communications. Tucows doesn't. About how much is Tucows per box? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Well I'm bad at my foreign accents. I thought I read Scottish or Irish. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM *To*: n...@flhsi.com *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Did you talk to the Irish people? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. /2cents Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Mac Dearman li...@inetsouth.com *Sent*: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was free :-) , but it sure is sweet Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy... We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem.. On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote: We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but they have really nice webmail. YMMV, GL Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini was. But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the customer's communications. Tucows doesn't. About how much is Tucows per box? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Eh If you can't fix my problem find someone who can. What is the issue? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me. Like Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones. Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. Can I speak to.. The .. Irish... people? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM *To*: n...@flhsi.com *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well I'm bad at my foreign accents. I thought I read Scottish or Irish. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM *To*: n...@flhsi.com *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Did you talk to the Irish people? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. /2cents Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Mac Dearman li...@inetsouth.com *Sent*: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was free :-) , but it sure is sweet Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy... We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem.. On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote: We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but they have really nice webmail. YMMV, GL Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini was. But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the customer's communications. Tucows doesn't. About how much is Tucows per box? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me. Like Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones. Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. Can I speak to.. The .. Irish... people? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well I'm bad at my foreign accents. I thought I read Scottish or Irish. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Did you talk to the Irish people? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. /2cents Nick Olsen Network Operations(855) FLSPEED x106 From: Mac Dearman li...@inetsouth.com Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was free :-) , but it sure is sweet Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy... We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem.. On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote: We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but they have really nice webmail. YMMV, GL Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini was. But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the customer's communications. Tucows doesn't. About how much is Tucows per box? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
For this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through a Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps. Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email due to sending internal distribution lists. Then people reply all the message, Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google apps. Even for internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the mail to whatever it gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped through our barracuda filter. Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by google SMTP for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180 messages a minute, 3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is per-user. Not per domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's incorrect. As no one user has received that much mail. The domain as a whole has. As well as a single sending IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that limit. After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send them headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the error message I was already given in the SMTP session (http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592). Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Eh If you can't fix my problem find someone who can. What is the issue? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me. Like Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones. Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. Can I speak to.. The .. Irish... people? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well I'm bad at my foreign accents. I thought I read Scottish or Irish. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure. Nick Olsen Network Operations(855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Did you talk to the Irish people? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. /2cents Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Mac Dearman li...@inetsouth.com Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was free :-) , but it sure is sweet Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy... We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem.. On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote: We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but they have really nice webmail. YMMV, GL Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
If there are 300 members one reply to all is 300 messages in that one moment, which well exceeds 180/minute, though... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: For this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through a Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps. Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email due to sending internal distribution lists. Then people reply all the message, Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google apps. Even for internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the mail to whatever it gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped through our barracuda filter. Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by google SMTP for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180 messages a minute, 3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is per-user. Not per domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's incorrect. As no one user has received that much mail. The domain as a whole has. As well as a single sending IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that limit. After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send them headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the error message I was already given in the SMTP session ( http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592). Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM *To*: n...@flhsi.com *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Eh If you can't fix my problem find someone who can. What is the issue? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me. Like Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones. Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. Can I speak to.. The .. Irish... people? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM *To*: n...@flhsi.com *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well I'm bad at my foreign accents. I thought I read Scottish or Irish. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM *To*: n...@flhsi.com *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Did you talk to the Irish people? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. /2cents Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Mac Dearman li...@inetsouth.com *Sent*: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was free :-) , but it sure is sweet Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy... We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem.. On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote: We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Agreed. Like I said. We exceed that on a per-domain or per-sendingIP basis. However, They swear that limit is per-user. So, User receives an email that is part of a list. Replies all, Which sends to an Alias. And that Alias spawns off 300+ emails to 300+ users. So no one user actually Received more then a few emails per minute. Just like this list. The mail server in question may send 300+ emails when I click send. But I, Nor you. Have received any more then a few messages. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:10 AM To: n...@flhsi.com n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting If there are 300 members one reply to all is 300 messages in that one moment, which well exceeds 180/minute, though... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: For this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through a Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps. Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email due to sending internal distribution lists. Then people reply all the message, Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google apps. Even for internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the mail to whatever it gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped through our barracuda filter. Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by google SMTP for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180 messages a minute, 3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is per-user. Not per domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's incorrect. As no one user has received that much mail. The domain as a whole has. As well as a single sending IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that limit. After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send them headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the error message I was already given in the SMTP session (http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592). Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Eh If you can't fix my problem find someone who can. What is the issue? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me. Like Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones. Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. Can I speak to.. The .. Irish... people? Nick Olsen Network Operations(855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well I'm bad at my foreign accents. I thought I read Scottish or Irish. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Did you talk to the Irish people? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. /2cents Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Mac Dearman li...@inetsouth.com Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all just a hyperlink
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
But that one user sent 300 messages. I'm not talking about receiving. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Agreed. Like I said. We exceed that on a per-domain or per-sendingIP basis. However, They swear that limit is per-user. So, User receives an email that is part of a list. Replies all, Which sends to an Alias. And that Alias spawns off 300+ emails to 300+ users. So no one user actually Received more then a few emails per minute. Just like this list. The mail server in question may send 300+ emails when I click send. But I, Nor you. Have received any more then a few messages. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:10 AM *To*: n...@flhsi.com n...@flhsi.com *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting If there are 300 members one reply to all is 300 messages in that one moment, which well exceeds 180/minute, though... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: For this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through a Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps. Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email due to sending internal distribution lists. Then people reply all the message, Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google apps. Even for internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the mail to whatever it gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped through our barracuda filter. Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by google SMTP for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180 messages a minute, 3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is per-user. Not per domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's incorrect. As no one user has received that much mail. The domain as a whole has. As well as a single sending IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that limit. After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send them headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the error message I was already given in the SMTP session ( http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592). Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM *To*: n...@flhsi.com *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Eh If you can't fix my problem find someone who can. What is the issue? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me. Like Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones. Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. Can I speak to.. The .. Irish... people? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM *To*: n...@flhsi.com *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well I'm bad at my foreign accents. I thought I read Scottish or Irish. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM *To*: n...@flhsi.com *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Did you talk to the Irish people? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. /2cents Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Mac Dearman li...@inetsouth.com *Sent*: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
https://support.google.com/a/answer/166852?hl=en Where is the alias? Is this a Google/Gmail group? If that goes to something like sa...@foobar.com than I'm not sure where the rules apply Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Well, Technically they sent One. Because it sends to an alias. Which then sends to the rest of the users. That being said. They limit and error given specifically says Receiving. Not sending. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:20 AM *To*: n...@flhsi.com n...@flhsi.com *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting But that one user sent 300 messages. I'm not talking about receiving. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Agreed. Like I said. We exceed that on a per-domain or per-sendingIP basis. However, They swear that limit is per-user. So, User receives an email that is part of a list. Replies all, Which sends to an Alias. And that Alias spawns off 300+ emails to 300+ users. So no one user actually Received more then a few emails per minute. Just like this list. The mail server in question may send 300+ emails when I click send. But I, Nor you. Have received any more then a few messages. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:10 AM *To*: n...@flhsi.com n...@flhsi.com *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting If there are 300 members one reply to all is 300 messages in that one moment, which well exceeds 180/minute, though... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: For this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through a Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps. Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email due to sending internal distribution lists. Then people reply all the message, Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google apps. Even for internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the mail to whatever it gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped through our barracuda filter. Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by google SMTP for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180 messages a minute, 3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is per-user. Not per domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's incorrect. As no one user has received that much mail. The domain as a whole has. As well as a single sending IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that limit. After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send them headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the error message I was already given in the SMTP session ( http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592). Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM *To*: n...@flhsi.com *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Eh If you can't fix my problem find someone who can. What is the issue? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me. Like Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones. Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. Can I speak to.. The .. Irish... people? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM *To*: n...@flhsi.com *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well I'm bad at my foreign accents. I thought I read Scottish or Irish. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Josh Luthman j
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
I would never outsource to someone like Google or GoDaddy or... Only to places where you can call (or e-mail) someone that can affect a change in the server's configuration. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com To: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 9:21:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well, Technically they sent One. Because it sends to an alias. Which then sends to the rest of the users. That being said. They limit and error given specifically says Receiving. Not sending. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From : Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent : Friday, March 07, 2014 10:20 AM To : n...@flhsi.com n...@flhsi.com Cc : WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject : Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting But that one user sent 300 messages. I'm not talking about receiving. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Agreed. Like I said. We exceed that on a per-domain or per-sendingIP basis. However, They swear that limit is per-user. So, User receives an email that is part of a list. Replies all, Which sends to an Alias. And that Alias spawns off 300+ emails to 300+ users. So no one user actually Received more then a few emails per minute. Just like this list. The mail server in question may send 300+ emails when I click send. But I, Nor you. Have received any more then a few messages. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From : Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent : Friday, March 07, 2014 10:10 AM To : n...@flhsi.com n...@flhsi.com Cc : WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject : Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting If there are 300 members one reply to all is 300 messages in that one moment, which well exceeds 180/minute, though... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: blockquote For this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through a Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps. Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email due to sending internal distribution lists. Then people reply all the message, Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google apps. Even for internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the mail to whatever it gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped through our barracuda filter. Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by google SMTP for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180 messages a minute, 3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is per-user. Not per domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's incorrect. As no one user has received that much mail. The domain as a whole has. As well as a single sending IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that limit. After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send them headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the error message I was already given in the SMTP session ( http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592 ). Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From : Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent : Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM To : n...@flhsi.com Cc : WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject : Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Eh If you can't fix my problem find someone who can. What is the issue? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: blockquote Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me. Like Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones. Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. Can I speak to.. The .. Irish... people? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From : Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent : Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM To : n...@flhsi.com Cc : WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject : Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well I'm bad at my foreign accents. I thought I read Scottish or Irish. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: blockquote Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Well, Technically they sent One. Because it sends to an alias. Which then sends to the rest of the users. That being said. They limit and error given specifically says Receiving. Not sending. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:20 AM To: n...@flhsi.com n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting But that one user sent 300 messages. I'm not talking about receiving. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Agreed. Like I said. We exceed that on a per-domain or per-sendingIP basis. However, They swear that limit is per-user. So, User receives an email that is part of a list. Replies all, Which sends to an Alias. And that Alias spawns off 300+ emails to 300+ users. So no one user actually Received more then a few emails per minute. Just like this list. The mail server in question may send 300+ emails when I click send. But I, Nor you. Have received any more then a few messages. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:10 AM To: n...@flhsi.com n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting If there are 300 members one reply to all is 300 messages in that one moment, which well exceeds 180/minute, though... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: For this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through a Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps. Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email due to sending internal distribution lists. Then people reply all the message, Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google apps. Even for internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the mail to whatever it gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped through our barracuda filter. Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by google SMTP for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180 messages a minute, 3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is per-user. Not per domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's incorrect. As no one user has received that much mail. The domain as a whole has. As well as a single sending IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that limit. After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send them headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the error message I was already given in the SMTP session (http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592). Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email. Nick Olsen Network Operations(855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Eh If you can't fix my problem find someone who can. What is the issue? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me. Like Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones. Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. Can I speak to.. The .. Irish... people? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well I'm bad at my foreign accents. I thought I read Scottish or Irish. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Did you talk to the Irish people? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn’t as good as Postini was. But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the customer’s communications. Tucows doesn’t. marlon From: Josh Bowsher Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 2:49 PM To: mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? All input is appreciated. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini was. But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the customer's communications. Tucows doesn't. About how much is Tucows per box? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but they have really nice webmail. YMMV, GL Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini was. But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the customer's communications. Tucows doesn't. About how much is Tucows per box? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy... We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem.. On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote: We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but they have really nice webmail. YMMV, GL Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini was. But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the customer's communications. Tucows doesn't. About how much is Tucows per box? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but they have really nice webmail. And I thought the ~32 cents that google charges was high. Depends how many email accounts you have I guess. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
It depends on what you get too. I know that my cost on the more advanced Zimbra licenses is over $1/month, but you get a ton with that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 3:33:01 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but they have really nice webmail. And I thought the ~32 cents that google charges was high. Depends how many email accounts you have I guess. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
We also offer a hosted mailbox solution on our hosted cluster here, contact me off-list if you are interested. We also sell MailEnable for your own mail server and can support you on it as well if needed.Just a few options. Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of Learn RouterOS- Second Edition http://www.wlan1.com/product_p/mikrotik%20book-2.htm ” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 tel:314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ – Skype: linktechs skype:linktechs?call -- Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com http://www.towercoverage.com/ – 900Mhz – LTE – 3G – 3.65 – TV Whitespace From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting It depends on what you get too. I know that my cost on the more advanced Zimbra licenses is over $1/month, but you get a ton with that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 3:33:01 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but they have really nice webmail. And I thought the ~32 cents that google charges was high. Depends how many email accounts you have I guess. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was free :-) , but it sure is sweet Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy... We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem.. On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote: We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but they have really nice webmail. YMMV, GL Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini was. But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the customer's communications. Tucows doesn't. About how much is Tucows per box? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Hey Josh, You were going to check with google back on 10/24/13 to see if they were interested in becoming a WISPA vendor member. Any update on this? Jim From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting https://sites.google.com/a/corp.ikano.com/google-apps-partner-edition-co rp/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/pricing.html $50/user/year Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 03/04/2014 02:01 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote: Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 tel:219-866-7946%20ext%3A%20212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net http://www.midwaynet.net/ jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting google apps for your domain. easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-) -sean On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.net wrote: Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? All input is appreciated. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 tel:219-866-7946%20ext%3A%20212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net http://www.midwaynet.net/ jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
I talked with Ikano for this. They didn't really come back with an answer so I took it as a No thank you. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 5, 2014 11:33 AM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote: Hey Josh, You were going to check with google back on 10/24/13 to see if they were interested in becoming a WISPA vendor member. Any update on this? Jim *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:26 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting https://sites.google.com/a/corp.ikano.com/google-apps-partner-edition-corp/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/pricing.html $50/user/year *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 03/04/2014 02:01 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote: Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting google apps for your domain. easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-) -sean On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.net wrote: Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? All input is appreciated. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Talk to Scott LePere at On Ramp Indiana. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net MTCNA CCNA MTCRE MTCWE - COMTRAIN Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.zigwireless.com High Speed Internet Options http://www.thebrotherswisp.com The Brothers Wisp From: Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 at 5:49 PM To: WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org) wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? All input is appreciated. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net http://www.midwaynet.net/ jbows...@midwaynet.net mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
we started when it was in early beta so we are grandfathered into a free account. I think many eons ago I did too but never did much of anything after getting the confirmation email which I cannot find back. Does the free account still have advertising though? as josh pointed out there is an ISP edition for .35 a user...very much worth it! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Thanks for all the input guys I really appreciate ittime to compare options and pricing :) Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.nethttp://www.midwaynet.net/ jbows...@midwaynet.netmailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 10:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting I talked with Ikano for this. They didn't really come back with an answer so I took it as a No thank you. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 5, 2014 11:33 AM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.netmailto:jpati...@linktechs.net wrote: Hey Josh, You were going to check with google back on 10/24/13 to see if they were interested in becoming a WISPA vendor member. Any update on this? Jim From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting https://sites.google.com/a/corp.ikano.com/google-apps-partner-edition-corp/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/pricing.html $50/user/year Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com On 03/04/2014 02:01 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote: Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212tel:219-866-7946%20ext%3A%20212 Cell 219-863-0678tel:219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.nethttp://www.midwaynet.net/ jbows...@midwaynet.netmailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting google apps for your domain. easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-) -sean On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.netmailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net wrote: Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? All input is appreciated. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212tel:219-866-7946%20ext%3A%20212 Cell 219-863
[WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? All input is appreciated. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.nethttp://www.midwaynet.net/ jbows...@midwaynet.netmailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
google apps for your domain. easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-) -sean On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.net wrote: Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? All input is appreciated. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.nethttp://www.midwaynet.net/ jbows...@midwaynet.netmailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting google apps for your domain. easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-) -sean On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.netmailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net wrote: Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? All input is appreciated. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212tel:219-866-7946%20ext%3A%20212 Cell 219-863-0678tel:219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.nethttp://www.midwaynet.net/ jbows...@midwaynet.netmailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/pricing.html $50/user/year *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 03/04/2014 02:01 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote: Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net http://www.midwaynet.net/ jbows...@midwaynet.net mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting google apps for your domain. easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-) -sean On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.net mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net wrote: Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? All input is appreciated. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 tel:219-866-7946%20ext%3A%20212 Cell 219-863-0678 tel:219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net http://www.midwaynet.net/ jbows...@midwaynet.net mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
If you want to outsource for your ISP, they have a partner edition that is ~.35/user or less. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/pricing.html $50/user/year *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 03/04/2014 02:01 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote: Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting google apps for your domain. easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-) -sean On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.net wrote: Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? All input is appreciated. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
https://sites.google.com/a/corp.ikano.com/google-apps-partner-edition-corp/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/pricing.html $50/user/year *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 03/04/2014 02:01 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote: Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting google apps for your domain. easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-) -sean On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.net wrote: Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? All input is appreciated. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Very nice, thanks *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 03/04/2014 02:26 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: https://sites.google.com/a/corp.ikano.com/google-apps-partner-edition-corp/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/pricing.html $50/user/year *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 03/04/2014 02:01 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote: Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 tel:219-866-7946%20ext%3A%20212 Cell 219-863-0678 tel:219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net http://www.midwaynet.net/ jbows...@midwaynet.net mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting google apps for your domain. easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-) -sean On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.net mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net wrote: Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? All input is appreciated. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 tel:219-866-7946%20ext%3A%20212 Cell 219-863-0678 tel:219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net http://www.midwaynet.net/ jbows...@midwaynet.net mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
we started when it was in early beta so we are grandfathered into a free account. as josh pointed out there is an ISP edition for .35 a user...very much worth it! -sean On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.net wrote: Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting google apps for your domain. easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-) -sean On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.net wrote: Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? All input is appreciated. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
When I try to access it, I get redirected to Ikano and mail is not one of their listed products... can someone clarify, please... Thanks From: Sean Heskett Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting we started when it was in early beta so we are grandfathered into a free account. as josh pointed out there is an ISP edition for .35 a user...very much worth it! -sean On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.net wrote: Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains….. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting google apps for your domain. easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-) -sean On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.net wrote: Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? All input is appreciated. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Use my link? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 4, 2014 8:34 PM, Tim Kerns t...@cv-access.com wrote: When I try to access it, I get redirected to Ikano and mail is not one of their listed products... can someone clarify, please... Thanks *From:* Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:10 PM *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting we started when it was in early beta so we are grandfathered into a free account. as josh pointed out there is an ISP edition for .35 a user...very much worth it! -sean On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.netwrote: Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting google apps for your domain. easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-) -sean On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.net wrote: Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? All input is appreciated. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 219-866-7946%20ext%3A%20212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
http://www.google.com/intx/en/enterprise/apps/business/landing/partners/resellers/ On Mar 4, 2014 7:34 PM, Tim Kerns t...@cv-access.com wrote: When I try to access it, I get redirected to Ikano and mail is not one of their listed products... can someone clarify, please... Thanks *From:* Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:10 PM *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting we started when it was in early beta so we are grandfathered into a free account. as josh pointed out there is an ISP edition for .35 a user...very much worth it! -sean On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.netwrote: Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting google apps for your domain. easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-) -sean On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.net wrote: Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? All input is appreciated. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 219-866-7946%20ext%3A%20212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net jbows...@midwaynet.net This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
