Re: [WISPA] P2P & Worm Monitoring/Alerting/Control
We use bandwidth shaping on *nix. works fine. currently the profile for one site manages 500+ IP based up and downstream. Its one of our few home-brew items. Of course, its all open source, so I don't need to worry about support on this particular item. John Thomas wrote: Mark, go over to http://www.mikrotik.com/download.html#dude See if it does some/all of what you need. As for limiting/shaping, your 3640 may do what you need. John Mark Nash wrote: I'm at the point on my network now that I really need to control unnecessary bandwidth usage. The biggest problem is the p2p users with their excessive upload, and worms come in a close second. My network is comprised of a Cisco 3640, Cisco C4840G L3 switch for segmenting, and Dell 3324 managed switches. I have run ntop in the past but I believe it only reports interactively through the web interface. I wouldn't consider myself too far off from obtaining an SNMP station/software like SNMPc. I'm needing to implement a solution that will monitor, alert on, and control this type of traffic. Either not pass it or rate-limit it. I'm interested in solutions that have been implemented, home-grown, tested, failed, etc. Thanks in advance... Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 325 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P & Worm Monitoring/Alerting/Control
We were doing quite a bit with our 3640 but from my experience the box did not hold up well under load. Be cautious when considering doing traffic shaping with your 3640. Watch the memory and CPU load closely. Scriv John Thomas wrote: Mark, go over to http://www.mikrotik.com/download.html#dude See if it does some/all of what you need. As for limiting/shaping, your 3640 may do what you need. John Mark Nash wrote: I'm at the point on my network now that I really need to control unnecessary bandwidth usage. The biggest problem is the p2p users with their excessive upload, and worms come in a close second. My network is comprised of a Cisco 3640, Cisco C4840G L3 switch for segmenting, and Dell 3324 managed switches. I have run ntop in the past but I believe it only reports interactively through the web interface. I wouldn't consider myself too far off from obtaining an SNMP station/software like SNMPc. I'm needing to implement a solution that will monitor, alert on, and control this type of traffic. Either not pass it or rate-limit it. I'm interested in solutions that have been implemented, home-grown, tested, failed, etc. Thanks in advance... Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 325 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P & Worm Monitoring/Alerting/Control
Mark, go over to http://www.mikrotik.com/download.html#dude See if it does some/all of what you need. As for limiting/shaping, your 3640 may do what you need. John Mark Nash wrote: I'm at the point on my network now that I really need to control unnecessary bandwidth usage. The biggest problem is the p2p users with their excessive upload, and worms come in a close second. My network is comprised of a Cisco 3640, Cisco C4840G L3 switch for segmenting, and Dell 3324 managed switches. I have run ntop in the past but I believe it only reports interactively through the web interface. I wouldn't consider myself too far off from obtaining an SNMP station/software like SNMPc. I'm needing to implement a solution that will monitor, alert on, and control this type of traffic. Either not pass it or rate-limit it. I'm interested in solutions that have been implemented, home-grown, tested, failed, etc. Thanks in advance... Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 325 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P & Worm Monitoring/Alerting/Control
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, Tom Andrews wrote: I can't say enough about the guys at Imagestream. I'm a proud customer, host their servers and have put my business in their hands on more times than I have things to count them on. I've never I like the Imagestream product as well. It is a really top-notch solution for what was originally requested. I would (like you) have no trouble recommending this product. (I still would say for this application, MT would probably work as well for just a little less money.) -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P & Worm Monitoring/Alerting/Control
*I'M* Stuart Pierce! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Tom Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] P2P & Worm Monitoring/Alerting/Control Tom Andrews "Stuart Pierce fan club member" -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P & Worm Monitoring/Alerting/Control
I can't say enough about the guys at Imagestream. I'm a proud customer, host their servers and have put my business in their hands on more times than I have things to count them on. I've never had an issue they did not stop all other work to figure out and get tweaked. We have just installed on of their Rebel Routers in a shack at the base of the tower which feeds them their internet. Scott, Josh and Eric are working on doing some hard core QOS to run across my PTP link and having the added ability to do the QOS and P2P tweaking before the packets hit the PTP link has resulted in much better performance. Just the P2P work they have done has saved me a lot of problems and bandwidth. To say the staff are friends is an understatement. Having them on my wireless is also a big benefit to other WISP's as they have felt the pain first hand of many of the problems we all encounter from time to time a tower down due to massive ice loading, twice I've lost the AP on that tower to storm damage and the last issue was my PTP link going dead. Not only do I trust them but I rely on them and they have not failed me in any way over the last 5 years. Tom Andrews "Stuart Pierce fan club member" - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 10:30 Subject: Re: [WISPA] P2P & Worm Monitoring/Alerting/Control Like the others that have spoken up here we use MT. Butch does all of the work on it for us as I'm no router guy. Great stuff. The only problem is that there is basically no factory support. And Butch has a real job too. grin I've been sending my consulting customers to www.imagestream.com mostly. For about the same price that mt wants per MONTH for direct support you can get a full year of service. And when we buy the units from them they come with hardware and software support, pre programmed and with the firewalls all set up and ready to go. Great people, I've met a few of the guys from there eyeball to eyeball. I LOVE my MT boxes and the gui is great. The lack of support is a deal breaker for me though. I'm stuck with them now but starting over I'd probably use something else. If you have the pc's already laying around it's a far cheaper option though. Even after paying the devil (Butch) his due to make it work right. (just funnin with Butch here guys, he's THE man and should be charging more than he does, he's that good) Hope that helps! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message ----- From: Mark Nash To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 8:25 PM Subject: [WISPA] P2P & Worm Monitoring/Alerting/Control I'm at the point on my network now that I really need to control unnecessary bandwidth usage. The biggest problem is the p2p users with their excessive upload, and worms come in a close second. My network is comprised of a Cisco 3640, Cisco C4840G L3 switch for segmenting, and Dell 3324 managed switches. I have run ntop in the past but I believe it only reports interactively through the web interface. I wouldn't consider myself too far off from obtaining an SNMP station/software like SNMPc. I'm needing to implement a solution that will monitor, alert on, and control this type of traffic. Either not pass it or rate-limit it. I'm interested in solutions that have been implemented, home-grown, tested, failed, etc. Thanks in advance... Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 325 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P & Worm Monitoring/Alerting/Control
Like the others that have spoken up here we use MT. Butch does all of the work on it for us as I'm no router guy. Great stuff. The only problem is that there is basically no factory support. And Butch has a real job too. grin I've been sending my consulting customers to www.imagestream.com mostly. For about the same price that mt wants per MONTH for direct support you can get a full year of service. And when we buy the units from them they come with hardware and software support, pre programmed and with the firewalls all set up and ready to go. Great people, I've met a few of the guys from there eyeball to eyeball. I LOVE my MT boxes and the gui is great. The lack of support is a deal breaker for me though. I'm stuck with them now but starting over I'd probably use something else. If you have the pc's already laying around it's a far cheaper option though. Even after paying the devil (Butch) his due to make it work right. (just funnin with Butch here guys, he's THE man and should be charging more than he does, he's that good) Hope that helps! Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Mark Nash To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 8:25 PM Subject: [WISPA] P2P & Worm Monitoring/Alerting/Control I'm at the point on my network now that I really need to control unnecessary bandwidth usage. The biggest problem is the p2p users with their excessive upload, and worms come in a close second. My network is comprised of a Cisco 3640, Cisco C4840G L3 switch for segmenting, and Dell 3324 managed switches. I have run ntop in the past but I believe it only reports interactively through the web interface. I wouldn't consider myself too far off from obtaining an SNMP station/software like SNMPc. I'm needing to implement a solution that will monitor, alert on, and control this type of traffic. Either not pass it or rate-limit it. I'm interested in solutions that have been implemented, home-grown, tested, failed, etc. Thanks in advance... Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net325 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P & Worm Monitoring/Alerting/Control
I will second that nomination! MikroTik does an outstanding job at limiting/shaping P2P (and anything else) traffic from shutting it down completely , setting a "tolerable rate" that allows the users to stay connected and download what they want as you control "how fast" and "what time its ok" ...etc or just letting it rip across your network wide open. It has too many options for me to even start on. All I can say is it is outstanding IMHO Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts) 318-728-8600 - Rayville 318-728-9600 318-376-2562 - cell Butch Evans wrote: On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Mark Nash wrote: I'm needing to implement a solution that will monitor, alert on, and control this type of traffic. Either not pass it or rate-limit it. I'm interested in solutions that have been implemented, home-grown, tested, failed, etc. While there are LOTS of solutions out there (including the "home-grown"), Mikrotik is probably easiest, and will do precisely what you are asking for. http://www.mikrotik.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P & Worm Monitoring/Alerting/Control
Must agree with Butch. MikroTik works well and scales well. It is all we use for P2P, firewalling, NAT, rate limiting and logging. Blair Davis West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 Butch Evans wrote: On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Mark Nash wrote: I'm needing to implement a solution that will monitor, alert on, and control this type of traffic. Either not pass it or rate-limit it. I'm interested in solutions that have been implemented, home-grown, tested, failed, etc. While there are LOTS of solutions out there (including the "home-grown"), Mikrotik is probably easiest, and will do precisely what you are asking for. http://www.mikrotik.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P & Worm Monitoring/Alerting/Control
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Mark Nash wrote: I'm needing to implement a solution that will monitor, alert on, and control this type of traffic. Either not pass it or rate-limit it. I'm interested in solutions that have been implemented, home-grown, tested, failed, etc. While there are LOTS of solutions out there (including the "home-grown"), Mikrotik is probably easiest, and will do precisely what you are asking for. http://www.mikrotik.com/ -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] P2P & Worm Monitoring/Alerting/Control
I'm at the point on my network now that I really need to control unnecessary bandwidth usage. The biggest problem is the p2p users with their excessive upload, and worms come in a close second. My network is comprised of a Cisco 3640, Cisco C4840G L3 switch for segmenting, and Dell 3324 managed switches. I have run ntop in the past but I believe it only reports interactively through the web interface. I wouldn't consider myself too far off from obtaining an SNMP station/software like SNMPc. I'm needing to implement a solution that will monitor, alert on, and control this type of traffic. Either not pass it or rate-limit it. I'm interested in solutions that have been implemented, home-grown, tested, failed, etc. Thanks in advance... Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net325 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
