Re: [WISPA] RIVERSIDE NEEDS YOU
Ironically, NBP still calls for low cost near free networks to be built. Ironically the city wont event take it for free, DUH!!! Looks like they realize that SUPPORT of the network and reoccurring costs of that are the BIG COSTs. What, really, the city doesn't want to run and be responsible for a network that will lose money, based on the model? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Chuck Profito" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: [WISPA] RIVERSIDE NEEDS YOU > AT&T Wants to Dump Riverside Network on City > > One of the legacy muni-Fi networks will have new (or no) owners: Esme Vos > writes at MuniWireless.com about the current state of the Riverside, > Calif., > network operated by AT&T. The network was the first and only bid by AT&T > with MetroFi, which was unable to complete that network along with many > others, and which shut down in 2008. In Riverside, AT&T kept up much of > its > end of the bargain, hiring Nokia Siemens to complete the network, which > Vos > says only reached 77 percent of the city. (One expects there's no SkyPilot > gear left in place, either, but I don't know that for sure.) > > The network has 20,000 daily users out of a population of about 300,000 > (in > 2000); the county has over 2.1 million residents. > > AT&T wants to give the city the network at no cost, but the city is facing > revenue shortfalls like the rest of the country (and most of the world). > It's trying to get a federal grant. > > Of the networks originally built in part or whole by EarthLink, Kite, and > MetroFi, only a handful remain in operation. Philadelphia recently moved > to > take over the remains of the network there from an interim firm that had > been planning to build out a variety of access services. > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIVERSIDE NEEDS YOU
Thanks. Will do. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:11:46 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIVERSIDE NEEDS YOU Start with Steve Reneker, CIO of Riverside, California http://www.muniwireless.com/2010/03/11/whats-up-with-riverside-citywide-wifi-network/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Charles N Wyble wrote: > Chuck Daddy Wy-Fi is in. What's the deal? Who do I have to talk to? > What's the process? > > > Chuck Profito wrote: > > AT&T Wants to Dump Riverside Network on City > > > > One of the legacy muni-Fi networks will have new (or no) owners: Esme Vos > > writes at MuniWireless.com about the current state of the Riverside, > Calif., > > network operated by AT&T. The network was the first and only bid by AT&T > > with MetroFi, which was unable to complete that network along with many > > others, and which shut down in 2008. In Riverside, AT&T kept up much of > its > > end of the bargain, hiring Nokia Siemens to complete the network, which > Vos > > says only reached 77 percent of the city. (One expects there's no > SkyPilot > > gear left in place, either, but I don't know that for sure.) > > > > The network has 20,000 daily users out of a population of about 300,000 > (in > > 2000); the county has over 2.1 million residents. > > > > AT&T wants to give the city the network at no cost, but the city is > facing > > revenue shortfalls like the rest of the country (and most of the world). > > It's trying to get a federal grant. > > > > Of the networks originally built in part or whole by EarthLink, Kite, and > > MetroFi, only a handful remain in operation. Philadelphia recently moved > to > > take over the remains of the network there from an interim firm that had > > been planning to build out a variety of access services. > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIVERSIDE NEEDS YOU
Start with Steve Reneker, CIO of Riverside, California http://www.muniwireless.com/2010/03/11/whats-up-with-riverside-citywide-wifi-network/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Charles N Wyble wrote: > Chuck Daddy Wy-Fi is in. What's the deal? Who do I have to talk to? > What's the process? > > > Chuck Profito wrote: > > AT&T Wants to Dump Riverside Network on City > > > > One of the legacy muni-Fi networks will have new (or no) owners: Esme Vos > > writes at MuniWireless.com about the current state of the Riverside, > Calif., > > network operated by AT&T. The network was the first and only bid by AT&T > > with MetroFi, which was unable to complete that network along with many > > others, and which shut down in 2008. In Riverside, AT&T kept up much of > its > > end of the bargain, hiring Nokia Siemens to complete the network, which > Vos > > says only reached 77 percent of the city. (One expects there's no > SkyPilot > > gear left in place, either, but I don't know that for sure.) > > > > The network has 20,000 daily users out of a population of about 300,000 > (in > > 2000); the county has over 2.1 million residents. > > > > AT&T wants to give the city the network at no cost, but the city is > facing > > revenue shortfalls like the rest of the country (and most of the world). > > It's trying to get a federal grant. > > > > Of the networks originally built in part or whole by EarthLink, Kite, and > > MetroFi, only a handful remain in operation. Philadelphia recently moved > to > > take over the remains of the network there from an interim firm that had > > been planning to build out a variety of access services. > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIVERSIDE NEEDS YOU
Chuck Daddy Wy-Fi is in. What's the deal? Who do I have to talk to? What's the process? Chuck Profito wrote: > AT&T Wants to Dump Riverside Network on City > > One of the legacy muni-Fi networks will have new (or no) owners: Esme Vos > writes at MuniWireless.com about the current state of the Riverside, Calif., > network operated by AT&T. The network was the first and only bid by AT&T > with MetroFi, which was unable to complete that network along with many > others, and which shut down in 2008. In Riverside, AT&T kept up much of its > end of the bargain, hiring Nokia Siemens to complete the network, which Vos > says only reached 77 percent of the city. (One expects there's no SkyPilot > gear left in place, either, but I don't know that for sure.) > > The network has 20,000 daily users out of a population of about 300,000 (in > 2000); the county has over 2.1 million residents. > > AT&T wants to give the city the network at no cost, but the city is facing > revenue shortfalls like the rest of the country (and most of the world). > It's trying to get a federal grant. > > Of the networks originally built in part or whole by EarthLink, Kite, and > MetroFi, only a handful remain in operation. Philadelphia recently moved to > take over the remains of the network there from an interim firm that had > been planning to build out a variety of access services. > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIVERSIDE NEEDS YOU
"You're world delivered" :) On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > That's like giving away your family pet after it got hit by a car. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue > that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Chuck Profito wrote: > >> AT&T Wants to Dump Riverside Network on City >> >> One of the legacy muni-Fi networks will have new (or no) owners: Esme Vos >> writes at MuniWireless.com about the current state of the Riverside, >> Calif., >> network operated by AT&T. The network was the first and only bid by AT&T >> with MetroFi, which was unable to complete that network along with many >> others, and which shut down in 2008. In Riverside, AT&T kept up much of its >> end of the bargain, hiring Nokia Siemens to complete the network, which Vos >> says only reached 77 percent of the city. (One expects there's no SkyPilot >> gear left in place, either, but I don't know that for sure.) >> >> The network has 20,000 daily users out of a population of about 300,000 (in >> 2000); the county has over 2.1 million residents. >> >> AT&T wants to give the city the network at no cost, but the city is facing >> revenue shortfalls like the rest of the country (and most of the world). >> It's trying to get a federal grant. >> >> Of the networks originally built in part or whole by EarthLink, Kite, and >> MetroFi, only a handful remain in operation. Philadelphia recently moved to >> take over the remains of the network there from an interim firm that had >> been planning to build out a variety of access services. >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIVERSIDE NEEDS YOU
That's like giving away your family pet after it got hit by a car. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Chuck Profito wrote: > AT&T Wants to Dump Riverside Network on City > > One of the legacy muni-Fi networks will have new (or no) owners: Esme Vos > writes at MuniWireless.com about the current state of the Riverside, > Calif., > network operated by AT&T. The network was the first and only bid by AT&T > with MetroFi, which was unable to complete that network along with many > others, and which shut down in 2008. In Riverside, AT&T kept up much of its > end of the bargain, hiring Nokia Siemens to complete the network, which Vos > says only reached 77 percent of the city. (One expects there's no SkyPilot > gear left in place, either, but I don't know that for sure.) > > The network has 20,000 daily users out of a population of about 300,000 (in > 2000); the county has over 2.1 million residents. > > AT&T wants to give the city the network at no cost, but the city is facing > revenue shortfalls like the rest of the country (and most of the world). > It's trying to get a federal grant. > > Of the networks originally built in part or whole by EarthLink, Kite, and > MetroFi, only a handful remain in operation. Philadelphia recently moved to > take over the remains of the network there from an interim firm that had > been planning to build out a variety of access services. > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RIVERSIDE NEEDS YOU
AT&T Wants to Dump Riverside Network on City One of the legacy muni-Fi networks will have new (or no) owners: Esme Vos writes at MuniWireless.com about the current state of the Riverside, Calif., network operated by AT&T. The network was the first and only bid by AT&T with MetroFi, which was unable to complete that network along with many others, and which shut down in 2008. In Riverside, AT&T kept up much of its end of the bargain, hiring Nokia Siemens to complete the network, which Vos says only reached 77 percent of the city. (One expects there's no SkyPilot gear left in place, either, but I don't know that for sure.) The network has 20,000 daily users out of a population of about 300,000 (in 2000); the county has over 2.1 million residents. AT&T wants to give the city the network at no cost, but the city is facing revenue shortfalls like the rest of the country (and most of the world). It's trying to get a federal grant. Of the networks originally built in part or whole by EarthLink, Kite, and MetroFi, only a handful remain in operation. Philadelphia recently moved to take over the remains of the network there from an interim firm that had been planning to build out a variety of access services. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
