Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?
Thats right. The biggest "obstacle" to broadband penetration in these parts is that many dont want a computer AND of those that do, many dont want internet. I realize we on this list are connectivity advocates but that doesnt mean that others have the same view. On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > That's the other problem, I wonder what amount of the 7,000 have a computer. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Stuart Pierce > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:56 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? > > > How many of the 7000 are going to want it and actually pay for it ? They > don't get fined for not taking internet access do they ? > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Chuck Hogg" > Reply-To: WISPA General List > Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:54:39 -0400 > >>I have not...and have not decided on if I will. They have contacted me >>multiple times, requesting me to submit a proposal. >> >>You have to bid to lease the network on a year to year basis. You are >>responsible for all subscriber equipment. You have to provide service to >>approximately 7,000 subscribers. If you put out 7,000 Canopy SM's (Which is >>what they are pushing) that is $1.4M in subscriber gear. You cannot charge a >>setup fee. You have to offer internet service for $29.95/mth for 768kbps. At >>that price, it will take 10 months to recoup your installation and upfront >>equipment cost. This does not take into consideration the backbone internet >>cost. You may lose the contract before you can ever recoup the cost on a >>subscriber. >> >>If you lose the yearly bid, you will have to go and reclaim the subscriber >>equipment. The problem with this is, going to Hilbilly Bob's house to take >>his internet equipment away will be quite a hard task. >> >>None of the water districts are going to give free access to their water >>towers. You will have to negotiate access. The commercial towers are all >>Crown, so plan on $500/mth in tower leasing. >> >>You have to do a beta test on your own dime in their area, providing internet >>service. I don't know many commercial tower companies that will give you >>access for 60 days at a cheap rate, and who you will get a backbone >>connection from for 60 days. >> >>You have to pay prevailing wage for all labor. >> >>Once the network is in place, you are responsible for all and any >>upgrades/maintenance. If you lose the bid at the end of the year, you have >>to go and reclaim your equipment. If the company that installs the network >>uses equipment you don't like, that is not their problem it is yours. If the >>network is hit by lightning, you are responsible for replacing the equipment. >> >>You have to provide all of the upfront capital, and they will pay you back >>within 120 days. Meaning, you have to put up the $550k for 120 days...before >>they will repay you. >> >>I hate being a pessimist, but it is hard for me to be an optimist. You have >>the potential of pulling in $210k per month on 7,000 subscribers. You have >>to bid yearly on the contract to run the network. It would suck if you put >>up the $1.4M to put in the equipment with the subscribers, to have the >>contract yanked from you the following year. Good luck on getting those >>7,000 subscribers to be happy about you removing your equipment if you lose >>the contract (did I already mention that?) >> >>If they would do it as a bid on a 5 or 10 year term then I would be >>interested. >> >>Regards, >>Chuck Hogg >>Shelby Broadband >>502-722-9292 >>ch...@shelbybb.com >>http://www.shelbybb.com >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>Behalf Of RickG >>Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM >>To: WISPA General List >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? >> >>Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --> >>http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/ >> >>On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >>> I know of two WISPs in the London area. They are not on this list...but >>> you can contact me offline and I will tell you. >>> >>> Reg
Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?
That's the other problem, I wonder what amount of the 7,000 have a computer. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? How many of the 7000 are going to want it and actually pay for it ? They don't get fined for not taking internet access do they ? -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck Hogg" Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:54:39 -0400 >I have not...and have not decided on if I will. They have contacted me >multiple times, requesting me to submit a proposal. > >You have to bid to lease the network on a year to year basis. You are >responsible for all subscriber equipment. You have to provide service to >approximately 7,000 subscribers. If you put out 7,000 Canopy SM's (Which is >what they are pushing) that is $1.4M in subscriber gear. You cannot charge a >setup fee. You have to offer internet service for $29.95/mth for 768kbps. At >that price, it will take 10 months to recoup your installation and upfront >equipment cost. This does not take into consideration the backbone internet >cost. You may lose the contract before you can ever recoup the cost on a >subscriber. > >If you lose the yearly bid, you will have to go and reclaim the subscriber >equipment. The problem with this is, going to Hilbilly Bob's house to take >his internet equipment away will be quite a hard task. > >None of the water districts are going to give free access to their water >towers. You will have to negotiate access. The commercial towers are all >Crown, so plan on $500/mth in tower leasing. > >You have to do a beta test on your own dime in their area, providing internet >service. I don't know many commercial tower companies that will give you >access for 60 days at a cheap rate, and who you will get a backbone connection >from for 60 days. > >You have to pay prevailing wage for all labor. > >Once the network is in place, you are responsible for all and any >upgrades/maintenance. If you lose the bid at the end of the year, you have to >go and reclaim your equipment. If the company that installs the network uses >equipment you don't like, that is not their problem it is yours. If the >network is hit by lightning, you are responsible for replacing the equipment. > >You have to provide all of the upfront capital, and they will pay you back >within 120 days. Meaning, you have to put up the $550k for 120 days...before >they will repay you. > >I hate being a pessimist, but it is hard for me to be an optimist. You have >the potential of pulling in $210k per month on 7,000 subscribers. You have to >bid yearly on the contract to run the network. It would suck if you put up >the $1.4M to put in the equipment with the subscribers, to have the contract >yanked from you the following year. Good luck on getting those 7,000 >subscribers to be happy about you removing your equipment if you lose the >contract (did I already mention that?) > >If they would do it as a bid on a 5 or 10 year term then I would be interested. > >Regards, >Chuck Hogg >Shelby Broadband >502-722-9292 >ch...@shelbybb.com >http://www.shelbybb.com > > >-----Original Message- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf >Of RickG >Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? > >Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --> >http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/ > >On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >> I know of two WISPs in the London area. They are not on this list...but >> you can contact me offline and I will tell you. >> >> Regards, >> Chuck Hogg >> Shelby Broadband >> 502-722-9292 >> ch...@shelbybb.com >> http://www.shelbybb.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Steven G McGehee >> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, >> >> KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months? >> Thanks. >> >> -Steven >> >> >>
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LOL Stuart! I just reread you post, particularly the send question. That will be next, like health care, we'll be required to purchase it! On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote: > > How many of the 7000 are going to want it and actually pay for it ? They > don't get fined for not taking internet access do they ? > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Chuck Hogg" > Reply-To: WISPA General List > Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:54:39 -0400 > >>I have not...and have not decided on if I will. They have contacted me >>multiple times, requesting me to submit a proposal. >> >>You have to bid to lease the network on a year to year basis. You are >>responsible for all subscriber equipment. You have to provide service to >>approximately 7,000 subscribers. If you put out 7,000 Canopy SM's (Which is >>what they are pushing) that is $1.4M in subscriber gear. You cannot charge a >>setup fee. You have to offer internet service for $29.95/mth for 768kbps. At >>that price, it will take 10 months to recoup your installation and upfront >>equipment cost. This does not take into consideration the backbone internet >>cost. You may lose the contract before you can ever recoup the cost on a >>subscriber. >> >>If you lose the yearly bid, you will have to go and reclaim the subscriber >>equipment. The problem with this is, going to Hilbilly Bob's house to take >>his internet equipment away will be quite a hard task. >> >>None of the water districts are going to give free access to their water >>towers. You will have to negotiate access. The commercial towers are all >>Crown, so plan on $500/mth in tower leasing. >> >>You have to do a beta test on your own dime in their area, providing internet >>service. I don't know many commercial tower companies that will give you >>access for 60 days at a cheap rate, and who you will get a backbone >>connection from for 60 days. >> >>You have to pay prevailing wage for all labor. >> >>Once the network is in place, you are responsible for all and any >>upgrades/maintenance. If you lose the bid at the end of the year, you have >>to go and reclaim your equipment. If the company that installs the network >>uses equipment you don't like, that is not their problem it is yours. If the >>network is hit by lightning, you are responsible for replacing the equipment. >> >>You have to provide all of the upfront capital, and they will pay you back >>within 120 days. Meaning, you have to put up the $550k for 120 days...before >>they will repay you. >> >>I hate being a pessimist, but it is hard for me to be an optimist. You have >>the potential of pulling in $210k per month on 7,000 subscribers. You have >>to bid yearly on the contract to run the network. It would suck if you put >>up the $1.4M to put in the equipment with the subscribers, to have the >>contract yanked from you the following year. Good luck on getting those >>7,000 subscribers to be happy about you removing your equipment if you lose >>the contract (did I already mention that?) >> >>If they would do it as a bid on a 5 or 10 year term then I would be >>interested. >> >>Regards, >>Chuck Hogg >>Shelby Broadband >>502-722-9292 >>ch...@shelbybb.com >>http://www.shelbybb.com >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>Behalf Of RickG >>Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM >>To: WISPA General List >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? >> >>Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --> >>http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/ >> >>On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >>> I know of two WISPs in the London area. They are not on this list...but >>> you can contact me offline and I will tell you. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Chuck Hogg >>> Shelby Broadband >>> 502-722-9292 >>> ch...@shelbybb.com >>> http://www.shelbybb.com >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Steven G McGehee >>> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, >>> >&g
Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?
How many of the 7000 are going to want it and actually pay for it ? They don't get fined for not taking internet access do they ? -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck Hogg" Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:54:39 -0400 >I have not...and have not decided on if I will. They have contacted me >multiple times, requesting me to submit a proposal. > >You have to bid to lease the network on a year to year basis. You are >responsible for all subscriber equipment. You have to provide service to >approximately 7,000 subscribers. If you put out 7,000 Canopy SM's (Which is >what they are pushing) that is $1.4M in subscriber gear. You cannot charge a >setup fee. You have to offer internet service for $29.95/mth for 768kbps. At >that price, it will take 10 months to recoup your installation and upfront >equipment cost. This does not take into consideration the backbone internet >cost. You may lose the contract before you can ever recoup the cost on a >subscriber. > >If you lose the yearly bid, you will have to go and reclaim the subscriber >equipment. The problem with this is, going to Hilbilly Bob's house to take >his internet equipment away will be quite a hard task. > >None of the water districts are going to give free access to their water >towers. You will have to negotiate access. The commercial towers are all >Crown, so plan on $500/mth in tower leasing. > >You have to do a beta test on your own dime in their area, providing internet >service. I don't know many commercial tower companies that will give you >access for 60 days at a cheap rate, and who you will get a backbone connection >from for 60 days. > >You have to pay prevailing wage for all labor. > >Once the network is in place, you are responsible for all and any >upgrades/maintenance. If you lose the bid at the end of the year, you have to >go and reclaim your equipment. If the company that installs the network uses >equipment you don't like, that is not their problem it is yours. If the >network is hit by lightning, you are responsible for replacing the equipment. > >You have to provide all of the upfront capital, and they will pay you back >within 120 days. Meaning, you have to put up the $550k for 120 days...before >they will repay you. > >I hate being a pessimist, but it is hard for me to be an optimist. You have >the potential of pulling in $210k per month on 7,000 subscribers. You have to >bid yearly on the contract to run the network. It would suck if you put up >the $1.4M to put in the equipment with the subscribers, to have the contract >yanked from you the following year. Good luck on getting those 7,000 >subscribers to be happy about you removing your equipment if you lose the >contract (did I already mention that?) > >If they would do it as a bid on a 5 or 10 year term then I would be interested. > >Regards, >Chuck Hogg >Shelby Broadband >502-722-9292 >ch...@shelbybb.com >http://www.shelbybb.com > > >-Original Message- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf >Of RickG >Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? > >Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --> >http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/ > >On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >> I know of two WISPs in the London area. They are not on this list...but >> you can contact me offline and I will tell you. >> >> Regards, >> Chuck Hogg >> Shelby Broadband >> 502-722-9292 >> ch...@shelbybb.com >> http://www.shelbybb.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Steven G McGehee >> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, >> >> KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months? >> Thanks. >> >> -Steven >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >
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LOL! I saw that but dont lose any sleep over it. I dont know if your very familiar with the territory but it's a true challenge. Remember, one of my subs is a ConnectedNation Senior Manager and he told me about this a long time ago. I've been over on that side of the ridge many, many times in the 3+ years I've been here and the trees and canyons are enough to send a wireless guy into a tizzy! 900MHz is not that good. On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > Doh. Looks like I am definitely not doing it. The deadline was April 5th. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? > > Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --> > http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/ > > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >> I know of two WISPs in the London area. They are not on this list...but >> you can contact me offline and I will tell you. >> >> Regards, >> Chuck Hogg >> Shelby Broadband >> 502-722-9292 >> ch...@shelbybb.com >> http://www.shelbybb.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Steven G McGehee >> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, >> >> KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months? >> Thanks. >> >> -Steven >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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My opinion as well! I just wondered who is brave enough. Also, Hillbilly Bob lives up one of the many hollers. Besides the forest of trees, the steep hills will prevent access to the many even with 900MHz. On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > I have not...and have not decided on if I will. They have contacted me > multiple times, requesting me to submit a proposal. > > You have to bid to lease the network on a year to year basis. You are > responsible for all subscriber equipment. You have to provide service to > approximately 7,000 subscribers. If you put out 7,000 Canopy SM's (Which is > what they are pushing) that is $1.4M in subscriber gear. You cannot charge a > setup fee. You have to offer internet service for $29.95/mth for 768kbps. At > that price, it will take 10 months to recoup your installation and upfront > equipment cost. This does not take into consideration the backbone internet > cost. You may lose the contract before you can ever recoup the cost on a > subscriber. > > If you lose the yearly bid, you will have to go and reclaim the subscriber > equipment. The problem with this is, going to Hilbilly Bob's house to take > his internet equipment away will be quite a hard task. > > None of the water districts are going to give free access to their water > towers. You will have to negotiate access. The commercial towers are all > Crown, so plan on $500/mth in tower leasing. > > You have to do a beta test on your own dime in their area, providing internet > service. I don't know many commercial tower companies that will give you > access for 60 days at a cheap rate, and who you will get a backbone > connection from for 60 days. > > You have to pay prevailing wage for all labor. > > Once the network is in place, you are responsible for all and any > upgrades/maintenance. If you lose the bid at the end of the year, you have > to go and reclaim your equipment. If the company that installs the network > uses equipment you don't like, that is not their problem it is yours. If the > network is hit by lightning, you are responsible for replacing the equipment. > > You have to provide all of the upfront capital, and they will pay you back > within 120 days. Meaning, you have to put up the $550k for 120 days...before > they will repay you. > > I hate being a pessimist, but it is hard for me to be an optimist. You have > the potential of pulling in $210k per month on 7,000 subscribers. You have > to bid yearly on the contract to run the network. It would suck if you put > up the $1.4M to put in the equipment with the subscribers, to have the > contract yanked from you the following year. Good luck on getting those > 7,000 subscribers to be happy about you removing your equipment if you lose > the contract (did I already mention that?) > > If they would do it as a bid on a 5 or 10 year term then I would be > interested. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? > > Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --> > http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/ > > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >> I know of two WISPs in the London area. They are not on this list...but >> you can contact me offline and I will tell you. >> >> Regards, >> Chuck Hogg >> Shelby Broadband >> 502-722-9292 >> ch...@shelbybb.com >> http://www.shelbybb.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Steven G McGehee >> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, >> >> KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months? >> Thanks. >> >> -Steven >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >>
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Doh. Looks like I am definitely not doing it. The deadline was April 5th. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --> http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/ On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > I know of two WISPs in the London area. They are not on this list...but > you can contact me offline and I will tell you. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Steven G McGehee > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? > > Hi all, > > I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, > > KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months? > Thanks. > > -Steven > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?
I have not...and have not decided on if I will. They have contacted me multiple times, requesting me to submit a proposal. You have to bid to lease the network on a year to year basis. You are responsible for all subscriber equipment. You have to provide service to approximately 7,000 subscribers. If you put out 7,000 Canopy SM's (Which is what they are pushing) that is $1.4M in subscriber gear. You cannot charge a setup fee. You have to offer internet service for $29.95/mth for 768kbps. At that price, it will take 10 months to recoup your installation and upfront equipment cost. This does not take into consideration the backbone internet cost. You may lose the contract before you can ever recoup the cost on a subscriber. If you lose the yearly bid, you will have to go and reclaim the subscriber equipment. The problem with this is, going to Hilbilly Bob's house to take his internet equipment away will be quite a hard task. None of the water districts are going to give free access to their water towers. You will have to negotiate access. The commercial towers are all Crown, so plan on $500/mth in tower leasing. You have to do a beta test on your own dime in their area, providing internet service. I don't know many commercial tower companies that will give you access for 60 days at a cheap rate, and who you will get a backbone connection from for 60 days. You have to pay prevailing wage for all labor. Once the network is in place, you are responsible for all and any upgrades/maintenance. If you lose the bid at the end of the year, you have to go and reclaim your equipment. If the company that installs the network uses equipment you don't like, that is not their problem it is yours. If the network is hit by lightning, you are responsible for replacing the equipment. You have to provide all of the upfront capital, and they will pay you back within 120 days. Meaning, you have to put up the $550k for 120 days...before they will repay you. I hate being a pessimist, but it is hard for me to be an optimist. You have the potential of pulling in $210k per month on 7,000 subscribers. You have to bid yearly on the contract to run the network. It would suck if you put up the $1.4M to put in the equipment with the subscribers, to have the contract yanked from you the following year. Good luck on getting those 7,000 subscribers to be happy about you removing your equipment if you lose the contract (did I already mention that?) If they would do it as a bid on a 5 or 10 year term then I would be interested. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --> http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/ On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > I know of two WISPs in the London area. They are not on this list...but > you can contact me offline and I will tell you. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Steven G McGehee > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? > > Hi all, > > I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, > > KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months? > Thanks. > > -Steven > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?
Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --> http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/ On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > I know of two WISPs in the London area. They are not on this list...but > you can contact me offline and I will tell you. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Steven G McGehee > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? > > Hi all, > > I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, > > KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months? > Thanks. > > -Steven > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?
I know of two WISPs in the London area. They are not on this list...but you can contact me offline and I will tell you. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steven G McGehee Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? Hi all, I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months? Thanks. -Steven WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Service in London, KY?
Hi all, I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months? Thanks. -Steven WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
