RE: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature
Hello Paul, I will see if we can add better documentation for this these features. I think their web browser gets the ad page instead of where they wanted to go -- and then it goes on to where they wanted to go. John - WIRELESS ISP SYSTEMS AND ROUTERS MikroTikls SIA, Pernavas iela 46, LV-1009, Riga, LATVIA tel: +371 731 7700 fax: +371 731 7701 http://www.mikrotik.com US MikroTik User Meeting (MUM) May 4-5 Dallas, TX US MUM Training May 1-3 http://training.mikrotik.com/ - At 03:28 PM 4/18/2006, you wrote: I'll see what I can do but it's only in the lab at present. I'm not sure a public address would be any help as it relies on all your web traffic being transparently proxied through the MT. Once a pre-defined timer expires the MT would then send a pop-up to the end users when they next request (at least I think that's the theory). It should also block all traffic until the end user has seen the advert so I'm wondering if this would have problems with users running pop-up blockers. John? Cheers, P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: 18 April 2006 13:18 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature I know this would be a bunch of work but can you either send us some screen shots of this in action or possibly give a public address to the hotspot side so we can see what this feature looks like in action? I would really like to see the ad feature running and I am having trouble visualizing exactly what it is doing. Many thanks, Scriv Paul Hendry wrote: >Aha, now I see it. Never use Winbox so missed the option but now see it on >the CLI too. Are there issues with this and pop-up blockers at all? > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 18 April 2006 09:36 >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature > >- Original Message - >From: "Paul Hendry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'WISPA General List'" >Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:01 AM >Subject: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature > > > > >>I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which seems >>to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should be >>able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it >>doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through the >>transparent proxy. Anyone tried this? >> >> > >Yes, it works with the transparent proxy. > >Just go to 'IP > HotSpot > User > Profiles > Profile Name >Advertise' in >Winbox. > > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.3/316 - Release Date: 17/04/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.3/316 - Release Date: 17/04/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature
I said pop-up because that's what the Mikrotik help says it is. Is it actually a redirect then? I would have thought it would block them as I thought that was what the "advertise-timeout" setting was for. Cheers, P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: 19 April 2006 05:18 To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature On Tue, 18 Apr 2006, Paul Hendry wrote: >I'll see what I can do but it's only in the lab at present. I'm not >sure a public address would be any help as it relies on all your >web traffic being transparently proxied through the MT. Once a >pre-defined timer expires the MT would then send a pop-up to the >end users when they next request (at least I think that's the >theory). It should also block all traffic until the end user has >seen the advert so I'm wondering if this would have problems with >users running pop-up blockers. John? It's not a popup. It delivers the page to the end user's browser directly. You are correct that transparent proxy is part of it. I can't say if it will log them out if they are not running a web-browser and cannot view the advertisement. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting http://www.butchevans.com/ Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/318 - Release Date: 18/04/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/318 - Release Date: 18/04/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006, Paul Hendry wrote: I'll see what I can do but it's only in the lab at present. I'm not sure a public address would be any help as it relies on all your web traffic being transparently proxied through the MT. Once a pre-defined timer expires the MT would then send a pop-up to the end users when they next request (at least I think that's the theory). It should also block all traffic until the end user has seen the advert so I'm wondering if this would have problems with users running pop-up blockers. John? It's not a popup. It delivers the page to the end user's browser directly. You are correct that transparent proxy is part of it. I can't say if it will log them out if they are not running a web-browser and cannot view the advertisement. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting http://www.butchevans.com/ Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature
Is it possible to use this with transparent proxy without the hotspot? This would be a neat 'payment reminder' to those past due accounts by redirecting them to a 'please pay your bill' page every x-hours. We don't use hotspot but do use the transparent proxy. John > > I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which > seems > > to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should > be > > able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it > > doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through > the > > transparent proxy. Anyone tried this? > > Yes, it works with the transparent proxy. > > Just go to 'IP > HotSpot > User > Profiles > Profile Name >Advertise' in > Winbox. > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature
I take it that that's the radvert.htm page. How long have you been running it and have you had any issues? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2006 14:45 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature If the ad is blocked by a pop-up blocker the user sees an empty page with a link to the ad and has to click on the link before he can continue on to the the requested page. - Original Message - From: "Paul Hendry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:28 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature > I'll see what I can do but it's only in the lab at present. I'm not sure a > public address would be any help as it relies on all your web traffic being > transparently proxied through the MT. Once a pre-defined timer expires the > MT would then send a pop-up to the end users when they next request (at > least I think that's the theory). It should also block all traffic until the > end user has seen the advert so I'm wondering if this would have problems > with users running pop-up blockers. John? > > Cheers, > > P. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of John Scrivner > Sent: 18 April 2006 13:18 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature > > I know this would be a bunch of work but can you either send us some > screen shots of this in action or possibly give a public address to the > hotspot side so we can see what this feature looks like in action? I > would really like to see the ad feature running and I am having trouble > visualizing exactly what it is doing. > Many thanks, > Scriv > > > Paul Hendry wrote: > > >Aha, now I see it. Never use Winbox so missed the option but now see it on > >the CLI too. Are there issues with this and pop-up blockers at all? > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: 18 April 2006 09:36 > >To: WISPA General List > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Paul Hendry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "'WISPA General List'" > >Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:01 AM > >Subject: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature > > > > > > > > > >>I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which seems > >>to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should be > >>able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it > >>doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through the > >>transparent proxy. Anyone tried this? > >> > >> > > > >Yes, it works with the transparent proxy. > > > >Just go to 'IP > HotSpot > User > Profiles > Profile Name >Advertise' in > >Winbox. > > > > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.3/316 - Release Date: 17/04/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.3/316 - Release Date: 17/04/2006 > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.3/316 - Release Date: 17/04/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.3/316 - Release Date: 17/04/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature
If the ad is blocked by a pop-up blocker the user sees an empty page with a link to the ad and has to click on the link before he can continue on to the the requested page. - Original Message - From: "Paul Hendry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:28 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature > I'll see what I can do but it's only in the lab at present. I'm not sure a > public address would be any help as it relies on all your web traffic being > transparently proxied through the MT. Once a pre-defined timer expires the > MT would then send a pop-up to the end users when they next request (at > least I think that's the theory). It should also block all traffic until the > end user has seen the advert so I'm wondering if this would have problems > with users running pop-up blockers. John? > > Cheers, > > P. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of John Scrivner > Sent: 18 April 2006 13:18 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature > > I know this would be a bunch of work but can you either send us some > screen shots of this in action or possibly give a public address to the > hotspot side so we can see what this feature looks like in action? I > would really like to see the ad feature running and I am having trouble > visualizing exactly what it is doing. > Many thanks, > Scriv > > > Paul Hendry wrote: > > >Aha, now I see it. Never use Winbox so missed the option but now see it on > >the CLI too. Are there issues with this and pop-up blockers at all? > > > >-----Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: 18 April 2006 09:36 > >To: WISPA General List > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Paul Hendry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "'WISPA General List'" > >Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:01 AM > >Subject: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature > > > > > > > > > >>I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which seems > >>to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should be > >>able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it > >>doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through the > >>transparent proxy. Anyone tried this? > >> > >> > > > >Yes, it works with the transparent proxy. > > > >Just go to 'IP > HotSpot > User > Profiles > Profile Name >Advertise' in > >Winbox. > > > > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.3/316 - Release Date: 17/04/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.3/316 - Release Date: 17/04/2006 > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature
I'll see what I can do but it's only in the lab at present. I'm not sure a public address would be any help as it relies on all your web traffic being transparently proxied through the MT. Once a pre-defined timer expires the MT would then send a pop-up to the end users when they next request (at least I think that's the theory). It should also block all traffic until the end user has seen the advert so I'm wondering if this would have problems with users running pop-up blockers. John? Cheers, P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: 18 April 2006 13:18 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature I know this would be a bunch of work but can you either send us some screen shots of this in action or possibly give a public address to the hotspot side so we can see what this feature looks like in action? I would really like to see the ad feature running and I am having trouble visualizing exactly what it is doing. Many thanks, Scriv Paul Hendry wrote: >Aha, now I see it. Never use Winbox so missed the option but now see it on >the CLI too. Are there issues with this and pop-up blockers at all? > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 18 April 2006 09:36 >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature > >- Original Message - >From: "Paul Hendry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'WISPA General List'" >Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:01 AM >Subject: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature > > > > >>I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which seems >>to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should be >>able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it >>doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through the >>transparent proxy. Anyone tried this? >> >> > >Yes, it works with the transparent proxy. > >Just go to 'IP > HotSpot > User > Profiles > Profile Name >Advertise' in >Winbox. > > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.3/316 - Release Date: 17/04/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.3/316 - Release Date: 17/04/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature
Hello John, I know this would be a bunch of work but can you either send us some screen shots of this in action or possibly give a public address to the hotspot side so we can see what this feature looks like in action? I would really like to see the ad feature running and I am having trouble visualizing exactly what it is doing. Many thanks, Scriv There will be a demo of this at the MUM US meeting. John www.mikrotik.com Paul Hendry wrote: Aha, now I see it. Never use Winbox so missed the option but now see it on the CLI too. Are there issues with this and pop-up blockers at all? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2006 09:36 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature - Original Message - From: "Paul Hendry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:01 AM Subject: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which seems to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should be able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through the transparent proxy. Anyone tried this? Yes, it works with the transparent proxy. Just go to 'IP > HotSpot > User > Profiles > Profile Name >Advertise' in Winbox. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature
I know this would be a bunch of work but can you either send us some screen shots of this in action or possibly give a public address to the hotspot side so we can see what this feature looks like in action? I would really like to see the ad feature running and I am having trouble visualizing exactly what it is doing. Many thanks, Scriv Paul Hendry wrote: Aha, now I see it. Never use Winbox so missed the option but now see it on the CLI too. Are there issues with this and pop-up blockers at all? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2006 09:36 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature - Original Message - From: "Paul Hendry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:01 AM Subject: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which seems to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should be able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through the transparent proxy. Anyone tried this? Yes, it works with the transparent proxy. Just go to 'IP > HotSpot > User > Profiles > Profile Name >Advertise' in Winbox. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature
Aha, now I see it. Never use Winbox so missed the option but now see it on the CLI too. Are there issues with this and pop-up blockers at all? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2006 09:36 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature - Original Message - From: "Paul Hendry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:01 AM Subject: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature > I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which seems > to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should be > able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it > doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through the > transparent proxy. Anyone tried this? Yes, it works with the transparent proxy. Just go to 'IP > HotSpot > User > Profiles > Profile Name >Advertise' in Winbox. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.3/316 - Release Date: 17/04/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.3/316 - Release Date: 17/04/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature
- Original Message - From: "Paul Hendry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:01 AM Subject: [WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature > I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which seems > to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should be > able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it > doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through the > transparent proxy. Anyone tried this? Yes, it works with the transparent proxy. Just go to 'IP > HotSpot > User > Profiles > Profile Name >Advertise' in Winbox. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] The Mikrotik "Advertisement" Feature
I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which seems to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should be able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through the transparent proxy. Anyone tried this? Cheers, P. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.2/314 - Release Date: 16/04/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
