Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf
My experience has been the same. They are getting old and don't keep up with the young kids so well, but they are solid. I've had 2 fail so far - one with a heater issue and this one. On 3/20/2010 5:42 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Overall our Trango APs have lasted very long, been super reliable, more reliable than any other product we have ever used. Many going on 10 years now, without a blip. But, for the few that have failed, one of the commom symptoms is going deaf. It can be hard to troubleshoot because at first, they'll just get lower RSSI for a short period usually at peak Sun/heat time, and get stronger at night. The exact same symptoms occur when there is random noise. The noise resulting in 5-10 db loss, and full strength comes back when noise is gone. So sometimes the only way we know its the radio was to replace the AP, and see if the same problem occurs. Or relocte the AP, and see if it has the same random symptoms. In some cases, the APs go deaf, and CPEs see them with RSSI but cant associate because APs cant hear them. I dont have an exact number, but I know I can count the total failure over 10 years on fingers of one hand, with a finger or two to spare. So it does not happen often. But its one reason I tend not to want to buy used APs. You'd have no way to test if it was flaky before putting it in the field for a while.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Gary Garrettggarr...@nidaho.net To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 2:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf That is the classic sign of a mid path lightning strike. Kind of like looking at a nuclear explosion with field glasses. It probably hit somewhere closer to the AP than the clients. We had a strike in the middle of a lake... it got the AP and all the clients all around the lake shore, not the Backhaul though because it was a narrow beam pointed up at a mountain not down at the water. That really sucked. On 3/19/2010 2:10 PM, Randy Cosby wrote: Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf? I have one that was showing RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP. Same on all channels, vert or horiz polarity. Cruddy linktests as well. Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ Letting off steam always produces more heat than light. - Neal A. Maxwell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf
That is the classic sign of a mid path lightning strike. Kind of like looking at a nuclear explosion with field glasses. It probably hit somewhere closer to the AP than the clients. We had a strike in the middle of a lake... it got the AP and all the clients all around the lake shore, not the Backhaul though because it was a narrow beam pointed up at a mountain not down at the water. That really sucked. On 3/19/2010 2:10 PM, Randy Cosby wrote: Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf? I have one that was showing RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP. Same on all channels, vert or horiz polarity. Cruddy linktests as well. Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf
Overall our Trango APs have lasted very long, been super reliable, more reliable than any other product we have ever used. Many going on 10 years now, without a blip. But, for the few that have failed, one of the commom symptoms is going deaf. It can be hard to troubleshoot because at first, they'll just get lower RSSI for a short period usually at peak Sun/heat time, and get stronger at night. The exact same symptoms occur when there is random noise. The noise resulting in 5-10 db loss, and full strength comes back when noise is gone. So sometimes the only way we know its the radio was to replace the AP, and see if the same problem occurs. Or relocte the AP, and see if it has the same random symptoms. In some cases, the APs go deaf, and CPEs see them with RSSI but cant associate because APs cant hear them. I dont have an exact number, but I know I can count the total failure over 10 years on fingers of one hand, with a finger or two to spare. So it does not happen often. But its one reason I tend not to want to buy used APs. You'd have no way to test if it was flaky before putting it in the field for a while.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Gary Garrett ggarr...@nidaho.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 2:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf That is the classic sign of a mid path lightning strike. Kind of like looking at a nuclear explosion with field glasses. It probably hit somewhere closer to the AP than the clients. We had a strike in the middle of a lake... it got the AP and all the clients all around the lake shore, not the Backhaul though because it was a narrow beam pointed up at a mountain not down at the water. That really sucked. On 3/19/2010 2:10 PM, Randy Cosby wrote: Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf? I have one that was showing RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP. Same on all channels, vert or horiz polarity. Cruddy linktests as well. Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf
Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf? I have one that was showing RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP. Same on all channels, vert or horiz polarity. Cruddy linktests as well. Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it. -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ Letting off steam always produces more heat than light. - Neal A. Maxwell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf
Cruddy linktests as well. Both ways or just from SU to AP? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf? I have one that was showing RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP. Same on all channels, vert or horiz polarity. Cruddy linktests as well. Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it. -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ Letting off steam always produces more heat than light. - Neal A. Maxwell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf
Mostly SU to AP. On 3/19/2010 3:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Cruddy linktests as well. Both ways or just from SU to AP? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Randy Cosbydco...@infowest.com wrote: Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf? I have one that was showing RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP. Same on all channels, vert or horiz polarity. Cruddy linktests as well. Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it. -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ Letting off steam always produces more heat than light. - Neal A. Maxwell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ Letting off steam always produces more heat than light. - Neal A. Maxwell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf
Ok. Thanks for posting your experience. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: Mostly SU to AP. On 3/19/2010 3:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Cruddy linktests as well. Both ways or just from SU to AP? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Randy Cosbydco...@infowest.com wrote: Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf? I have one that was showing RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP. Same on all channels, vert or horiz polarity. Cruddy linktests as well. Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it. -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ Letting off steam always produces more heat than light. - Neal A. Maxwell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ Letting off steam always produces more heat than light. - Neal A. Maxwell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Trango 5830
Anyone have a Trango 5830 AP? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
