[WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem

2010-01-08 Thread Scott Reed
I have a 2 mile link with TrangoLink45's.  Clear line of sight.
The MU transmits at 54Mbps all the time.
The RU drops to 12Mbps within about 2 minutes of setting it to 54.
This morning we tried 6 or 7 different channels.  All had the same RSSI 
of -61 or -62.  All behaved the same way.
What else should I be looking for to keep the RU sending at 54?  Of 
course the customer receive side is the one that is slow and this link 
services about 60% of the customers.

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GAB Midwest
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Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem

2010-01-08 Thread Brad Belton
Only a -61 at 2 miles?  What antennas and at what power level?

Brad


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Subject: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem

I have a 2 mile link with TrangoLink45's.  Clear line of sight.
The MU transmits at 54Mbps all the time.
The RU drops to 12Mbps within about 2 minutes of setting it to 54.
This morning we tried 6 or 7 different channels.  All had the same RSSI 
of -61 or -62.  All behaved the same way.
What else should I be looking for to keep the RU sending at 54?  Of 
course the customer receive side is the one that is slow and this link 
services about 60% of the customers.

-- 
Scott Reed
Sr. Systems Engineer
GAB Midwest
1-800-363-1544 x4000
Cell: 260-273-7239





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Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem

2010-01-08 Thread Scott Reed
Auto power adjust is set to -60, I think, so it is right on.

Brad Belton wrote:
 Only a -61 at 2 miles?  What antennas and at what power level?

 Brad


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 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scott Reed
 Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 8:14 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem

 I have a 2 mile link with TrangoLink45's.  Clear line of sight.
 The MU transmits at 54Mbps all the time.
 The RU drops to 12Mbps within about 2 minutes of setting it to 54.
 This morning we tried 6 or 7 different channels.  All had the same RSSI 
 of -61 or -62.  All behaved the same way.
 What else should I be looking for to keep the RU sending at 54?  Of 
 course the customer receive side is the one that is slow and this link 
 services about 60% of the customers.

   

-- 
Scott Reed
Sr. Systems Engineer
GAB Midwest
1-800-363-1544 x4000
Cell: 260-273-7239




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Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem

2010-01-08 Thread Brad Belton
Ok, that makes more sense.  Do you have a spare link to swap in place?  I'm
not leaning towards interference if you've tried several different channels
all with the same result.  It's been a long time since I've used an UL
Trango PtP, so maybe someone here a little more fresh with the gear will
chime in with more detailed suggestions.

What is Trango support suggesting?

Brad

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Auto power adjust is set to -60, I think, so it is right on.

Brad Belton wrote:
 Only a -61 at 2 miles?  What antennas and at what power level?

 Brad


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 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scott Reed
 Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 8:14 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem

 I have a 2 mile link with TrangoLink45's.  Clear line of sight.
 The MU transmits at 54Mbps all the time.
 The RU drops to 12Mbps within about 2 minutes of setting it to 54.
 This morning we tried 6 or 7 different channels.  All had the same RSSI 
 of -61 or -62.  All behaved the same way.
 What else should I be looking for to keep the RU sending at 54?  Of 
 course the customer receive side is the one that is slow and this link 
 services about 60% of the customers.

   

-- 
Scott Reed
Sr. Systems Engineer
GAB Midwest
1-800-363-1544 x4000
Cell: 260-273-7239





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Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem

2010-01-08 Thread Jerry Richardson
Did you try any of the 5.2 channels?

I have an 11mi link where the su modulates down to 24mbps looking up  
at the tower. Switched to 5300 and even with the reduction of power,  
it will modulate at 36mbps.

At two miles I would think you would see similar or better results

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On Jan 8, 2010, at 6:15 AM, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net  
wrote:

 I have a 2 mile link with TrangoLink45's.  Clear line of sight.
 The MU transmits at 54Mbps all the time.
 The RU drops to 12Mbps within about 2 minutes of setting it to 54.
 This morning we tried 6 or 7 different channels.  All had the same  
 RSSI
 of -61 or -62.  All behaved the same way.
 What else should I be looking for to keep the RU sending at 54?  Of
 course the customer receive side is the one that is slow and this link
 services about 60% of the customers.

 -- 
 Scott Reed
 Sr. Systems Engineer
 GAB Midwest
 1-800-363-1544 x4000
 Cell: 260-273-7239



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Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem

2010-01-08 Thread Tom DeReggi
, until you get the desired rssi, then use 
Trango's BUdget Calculator and confirm it matches the results. If calcs 
match, its most likely aligned good enough.

So in summary, it probably is noise. Hardset config, no auto anything. Rely 
on Survey and Linktest commands to Diagnose.

I'm not saying its not OK to use Auto on an ongoing basis. Just definately 
disable it during the troubleshooting process, so you have controlled 
factors to compare.
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Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:14 AM
Subject: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem


I have a 2 mile link with TrangoLink45's.  Clear line of sight.
 The MU transmits at 54Mbps all the time.
 The RU drops to 12Mbps within about 2 minutes of setting it to 54.
 This morning we tried 6 or 7 different channels.  All had the same RSSI
 of -61 or -62.  All behaved the same way.
 What else should I be looking for to keep the RU sending at 54?  Of
 course the customer receive side is the one that is slow and this link
 services about 60% of the customers.

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 Sr. Systems Engineer
 GAB Midwest
 1-800-363-1544 x4000
 Cell: 260-273-7239



 
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Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem

2010-01-08 Thread Scott Reed
 remote diag, and learned all we needed to do is 
 realign.

 One of the ways to partially test alignment remotely is to match RSSI with 
 LinkBudget. Again, autopowerlevels, can mislead you, so turn it off. 
 Manually reduce the power level, until you get the desired rssi, then use 
 Trango's BUdget Calculator and confirm it matches the results. If calcs 
 match, its most likely aligned good enough.

 So in summary, it probably is noise. Hardset config, no auto anything. Rely 
 on Survey and Linktest commands to Diagnose.

 I'm not saying its not OK to use Auto on an ongoing basis. Just definately 
 disable it during the troubleshooting process, so you have controlled 
 factors to compare.
 .
 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:14 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem


   
 I have a 2 mile link with TrangoLink45's.  Clear line of sight.
 The MU transmits at 54Mbps all the time.
 The RU drops to 12Mbps within about 2 minutes of setting it to 54.
 This morning we tried 6 or 7 different channels.  All had the same RSSI
 of -61 or -62.  All behaved the same way.
 What else should I be looking for to keep the RU sending at 54?  Of
 course the customer receive side is the one that is slow and this link
 services about 60% of the customers.

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 Sr. Systems Engineer
 GAB Midwest
 1-800-363-1544 x4000
 Cell: 260-273-7239



 
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Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem

2010-01-08 Thread jp
 multi-path.  We showed up with a 
 replacement radio after remote diag, and learned all we needed to do is 
 realign.
 
 One of the ways to partially test alignment remotely is to match RSSI with 
 LinkBudget. Again, autopowerlevels, can mislead you, so turn it off. 
 Manually reduce the power level, until you get the desired rssi, then use 
 Trango's BUdget Calculator and confirm it matches the results. If calcs 
 match, its most likely aligned good enough.
 
 So in summary, it probably is noise. Hardset config, no auto anything. Rely 
 on Survey and Linktest commands to Diagnose.
 
 I'm not saying its not OK to use Auto on an ongoing basis. Just definately 
 disable it during the troubleshooting process, so you have controlled 
 factors to compare.
 .
 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:14 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem
 
 
 I have a 2 mile link with TrangoLink45's.  Clear line of sight.
  The MU transmits at 54Mbps all the time.
  The RU drops to 12Mbps within about 2 minutes of setting it to 54.
  This morning we tried 6 or 7 different channels.  All had the same RSSI
  of -61 or -62.  All behaved the same way.
  What else should I be looking for to keep the RU sending at 54?  Of
  course the customer receive side is the one that is slow and this link
  services about 60% of the customers.
 
  -- 
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  Sr. Systems Engineer
  GAB Midwest
  1-800-363-1544 x4000
  Cell: 260-273-7239
 
 
 
  
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