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Yeah, it took me about 4 or 5 hours and we are a small WISP. I couldn't bear lying about my census tracts. The biggest problem is that the system adds them all up for you and then they don't give you good info about which one might be wrong. It's really a nightmare. I had 43 census tracts for my TWO zip codes. Can anyone beat that for census tracts? Sounds like if you are in a more rural area you might have more zips then census tracts. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Marlon K. Schafer wrote: oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster? We don't ever TRACK most of what they want. sigh I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the crap out. My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this! g marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
roflol We had almost 7000 square miles of coverage to deal with. I don't know how many census tracts we had but there were roughly a dozen zip codes before. Wanna know the best part? We had people in census tracts that hit THREE different zip codes! Our total time is much closer to 50 hours than 5 hours. I'd not be surprised to find out it took even more than 50. marlon - Original Message - From: Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477 Yeah, it took me about 4 or 5 hours and we are a small WISP. I couldn't bear lying about my census tracts. The biggest problem is that the system adds them all up for you and then they don't give you good info about which one might be wrong. It's really a nightmare. I had 43 census tracts for my TWO zip codes. Can anyone beat that for census tracts? Sounds like if you are in a more rural area you might have more zips then census tracts. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Marlon K. Schafer wrote: oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster? We don't ever TRACK most of what they want. sigh I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the crap out. My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this! g marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
You should submit something to the FCC in comments. I am pretty sure on their web site it says the average will be 5 hours or something like that. :-) Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Marlon K. Schafer wrote: roflol We had almost 7000 square miles of coverage to deal with. I don't know how many census tracts we had but there were roughly a dozen zip codes before. Wanna know the best part? We had people in census tracts that hit THREE different zip codes! Our total time is much closer to 50 hours than 5 hours. I'd not be surprised to find out it took even more than 50. marlon - Original Message - From: Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477 Yeah, it took me about 4 or 5 hours and we are a small WISP. I couldn't bear lying about my census tracts. The biggest problem is that the system adds them all up for you and then they don't give you good info about which one might be wrong. It's really a nightmare. I had 43 census tracts for my TWO zip codes. Can anyone beat that for census tracts? Sounds like if you are in a more rural area you might have more zips then census tracts. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Marlon K. Schafer wrote: oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster? We don't ever TRACK most of what they want. sigh I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the crap out. My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this! g marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
Marlon K. Schafer wrote: We had almost 7000 square miles of coverage to deal with. I don't know how many census tracts we had but there were roughly a dozen zip codes before. We went from about twenty-five ZIPs to.. about twenty-five census tracts. There was basically no correlation between the two, of course. Even after paying someone to geo-code our customer list, we still had to review about half our customers and assign them tracts by hand. (If your customer base is heavily urbanized, I imagine you could automatically geocode a lot more customers; we have a lot of Rural Route addresses, which tend to get put in comically wrong places.) At least next time around it'll be less painful. (We're retaining the customer-census associations, so we'll only have to manually map our new customers. This will work until, say, 2012 or so, when they draw up new tracts based on the 2010 census.) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
Did you guys end up creating a CSV file to upload, or do it by hand, by tract? David E. Smith wrote: Marlon K. Schafer wrote: We had almost 7000 square miles of coverage to deal with. I don't know how many census tracts we had but there were roughly a dozen zip codes before. We went from about twenty-five ZIPs to.. about twenty-five census tracts. There was basically no correlation between the two, of course. Even after paying someone to geo-code our customer list, we still had to review about half our customers and assign them tracts by hand. (If your customer base is heavily urbanized, I imagine you could automatically geocode a lot more customers; we have a lot of Rural Route addresses, which tend to get put in comically wrong places.) At least next time around it'll be less painful. (We're retaining the customer-census associations, so we'll only have to manually map our new customers. This will work until, say, 2012 or so, when they draw up new tracts based on the 2010 census.) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
By hand. But we're going to see if we can set up access to give us the right csv data. We'll have to add several new fields and create (like we did for the current silly form) speed classifications for many of our customers. The REALLY silly part for us? Most of our business customers buy the same type of account that our residential customers. Yet they (the fcc) think that there should be some quick and easy way for us to tell the difference based on something that we don't even keep track of. deep sigh marlon - Original Message - From: Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477 Did you guys end up creating a CSV file to upload, or do it by hand, by tract? David E. Smith wrote: Marlon K. Schafer wrote: We had almost 7000 square miles of coverage to deal with. I don't know how many census tracts we had but there were roughly a dozen zip codes before. We went from about twenty-five ZIPs to.. about twenty-five census tracts. There was basically no correlation between the two, of course. Even after paying someone to geo-code our customer list, we still had to review about half our customers and assign them tracts by hand. (If your customer base is heavily urbanized, I imagine you could automatically geocode a lot more customers; we have a lot of Rural Route addresses, which tend to get put in comically wrong places.) At least next time around it'll be less painful. (We're retaining the customer-census associations, so we'll only have to manually map our new customers. This will work until, say, 2012 or so, when they draw up new tracts based on the 2010 census.) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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We had to deal with 38 records and 22 census tracts. marlon - Original Message - From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477 Marlon K. Schafer wrote: We had almost 7000 square miles of coverage to deal with. I don't know how many census tracts we had but there were roughly a dozen zip codes before. We went from about twenty-five ZIPs to.. about twenty-five census tracts. There was basically no correlation between the two, of course. Even after paying someone to geo-code our customer list, we still had to review about half our customers and assign them tracts by hand. (If your customer base is heavily urbanized, I imagine you could automatically geocode a lot more customers; we have a lot of Rural Route addresses, which tend to get put in comically wrong places.) At least next time around it'll be less painful. (We're retaining the customer-census associations, so we'll only have to manually map our new customers. This will work until, say, 2012 or so, when they draw up new tracts based on the 2010 census.) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
Randy Cosby wrote: Did you guys end up creating a CSV file to upload, or do it by hand, by tract? I ended up doing the CSV thing. I had to correlate our billing system, our in-house IP management system, and two spreadsheets, to get all their requested data (and I'm still not confident it's 100% accurate in every detail, but it was the best I could do). Ended up being a lot easier to just add a little spit out a CSV code at the end, than to try to enter seventy-some-odd numbers into those great big tables. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
I did ours by hand. I had the customers in a spreadsheet, by address and speed. Then I had to go through the addresses to make sure that they were correct. Some of our customers bill to an address that is not their home address, so I had to change it. Then I sorted by Zip and went through with the PDF of the census tract, by hand and populated the census tract. The CSV looked even more complicated. Most of my users are in Quickbooks and although we also have an Access database for our technical info, there were new fields to add. Wasn't sure how to add these new fields and make sure it was right. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* David E. Smith wrote: Randy Cosby wrote: Did you guys end up creating a CSV file to upload, or do it by hand, by tract? I ended up doing the CSV thing. I had to correlate our billing system, our in-house IP management system, and two spreadsheets, to get all their requested data (and I'm still not confident it's 100% accurate in every detail, but it was the best I could do). Ended up being a lot easier to just add a little spit out a CSV code at the end, than to try to enter seventy-some-odd numbers into those great big tables. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
Right on the FCC's site was a link to an address lookup utility. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:52 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477 I have close to 5 hrs in and only have about 100 wireless customers. Had to manually plot the on a map to find their census tract because al of my address did not plot properly. Cannot imagine the work it would take with thousands of customers... Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Martha Huizenga Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477 You should submit something to the FCC in comments. I am pretty sure on their web site it says the average will be 5 hours or something like that. :-) Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Marlon K. Schafer wrote: roflol We had almost 7000 square miles of coverage to deal with. I don't know how many census tracts we had but there were roughly a dozen zip codes before. Wanna know the best part? We had people in census tracts that hit THREE different zip codes! Our total time is much closer to 50 hours than 5 hours. I'd not be surprised to find out it took even more than 50. marlon - Original Message - From: Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477 Yeah, it took me about 4 or 5 hours and we are a small WISP. I couldn't bear lying about my census tracts. The biggest problem is that the system adds them all up for you and then they don't give you good info about which one might be wrong. It's really a nightmare. I had 43 census tracts for my TWO zip codes. Can anyone beat that for census tracts? Sounds like if you are in a more rural area you might have more zips then census tracts. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Marlon K. Schafer wrote: oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster? We don't ever TRACK most of what they want. sigh I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the crap out. My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this! g marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
Yeah, it is the opposite in many rural states. I can name one state that has 2 census tracts and 7 zip codes. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:59 PM Subject: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477 Yeah, it took me about 4 or 5 hours and we are a small WISP. I couldn't bear lying about my census tracts. The biggest problem is that the system adds them all up for you and then they don't give you good info about which one might be wrong. It's really a nightmare. I had 43 census tracts for my TWO zip codes. Can anyone beat that for census tracts? Sounds like if you are in a more rural area you might have more zips then census tracts. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Marlon K. Schafer wrote: oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster? We don't ever TRACK most of what they want. sigh I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the crap out. My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this! g marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 3/16/2009 7:04 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
The 23 page instruction doc shows Estimated Average Burden Hours per Response: 72 hours I have between 20 and 30 hours on mine. Census tracts about double the number of zip codes, but yes, we'll keep the data, start tracking it on new customers and use the csv option next time On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote: Yeah, it is the opposite in many rural states. I can name one state that has 2 census tracts and 7 zip codes. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:59 PM Subject: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477 Yeah, it took me about 4 or 5 hours and we are a small WISP. I couldn't bear lying about my census tracts. The biggest problem is that the system adds them all up for you and then they don't give you good info about which one might be wrong. It's really a nightmare. I had 43 census tracts for my TWO zip codes. Can anyone beat that for census tracts? Sounds like if you are in a more rural area you might have more zips then census tracts. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Marlon K. Schafer wrote: oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster? We don't ever TRACK most of what they want. sigh I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the crap out. My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this! g marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN agreed When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that new what they were talking about Easier than Form 477 for us Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its easy. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
I think it took me about four hours to do my 33 households. (to complete entire 477) This was converting six zip codes into seven census tracts, so I still don't see much advantage to the switch. So the census tracts might change in 2012? Dang! So should we be saving the LAT/LON of the customer location, or something, to make it easier to re-code them in the future? I think the government owes us a free way to geo-code addresses in bulk. At least I don't need Excel anymore. On Mar 16, 2009, at 4:55 PM, David E. Smith wrote: At least next time around it'll be less painful. (We're retaining the customer-census associations, so we'll only have to manually map our new customers. This will work until, say, 2012 or so, when they draw up new tracts based on the 2010 census.) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
