[WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000

2010-09-10 Thread Chuck Hogg
Does anyone use this equipment or have experience in using this equipment?

With Canopy/UBNT/MikroTik we have pretty much set the standard for QoS
reasons that the signal should not be worse than -75.  I have seen another
WISP using this older WaveRider gear, and most of his clients are at -80 to
-95.  Are signals using this equipment that usable at those rates?  Can
anyone shed some light on this really old gear?  Any information is
appreciated...

Regards,

Chuck



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Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000

2010-09-10 Thread Jeremie Chism
I had some links like that when we used waverider but it was on sectors with 
little interference. They will probably work if you have a low noise floor. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 10, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> Does anyone use this equipment or have experience in using this equipment?
> 
> With Canopy/UBNT/MikroTik we have pretty much set the standard for QoS 
> reasons that the signal should not be worse than -75.  I have seen another 
> WISP using this older WaveRider gear, and most of his clients are at -80 to 
> -95.  Are signals using this equipment that usable at those rates?  Can 
> anyone shed some light on this really old gear?  Any information is 
> appreciated...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Chuck
> 
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Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000

2010-09-11 Thread my_em...@webjogger.net
 I think a lot depends on what the signal strength is on the CCU (AU) 
side. I several links that from the EUM (SU) are worse than -85, but at 
the CCU they are better than -78. Mind you these links aren't supper 
fast though, especially on the upload. It's okay if they're a lower 
usage customer.


Jon

On 9/10/2010 6:54 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
Does anyone use this equipment or have experience in using this 
equipment?


With Canopy/UBNT/MikroTik we have pretty much set the standard for QoS 
reasons that the signal should not be worse than -75.  I have seen 
another WISP using this older WaveRider gear, and most of his clients 
are at -80 to -95.  Are signals using this equipment that usable at 
those rates?  Can anyone shed some light on this really old gear?  Any 
information is appreciated...


Regards,

Chuck





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Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000

2010-09-11 Thread Chuck Hogg
That is from the CCU side.  In all of our testing we are seeing high ping
spikes.  Is there any other commands than "air" that you would recommend for
trouble shooting and if there are do you mind explaining them?

Regards,

Chuck


On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:35 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net <
my_em...@webjogger.net> wrote:

>  I think a lot depends on what the signal strength is on the CCU (AU) side.
> I several links that from the EUM (SU) are worse than -85, but at the CCU
> they are better than -78. Mind you these links aren't supper fast though,
> especially on the upload. It's okay if they're a lower usage customer.
>
> Jon
>
>
> On 9/10/2010 6:54 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>
> Does anyone use this equipment or have experience in using this equipment?
>
>  With Canopy/UBNT/MikroTik we have pretty much set the standard for QoS
> reasons that the signal should not be worse than -75.  I have seen another
> WISP using this older WaveRider gear, and most of his clients are at -80 to
> -95.  Are signals using this equipment that usable at those rates?  Can
> anyone shed some light on this really old gear?  Any information is
> appreciated...
>
> Regards,
>
> Chuck
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000

2010-09-11 Thread Kevin R. Battersby
On September 11, 2010, Chuck Hogg wrote:
> That is from the CCU side.  In all of our testing we are seeing high ping
> spikes.  Is there any other commands than "air" that you would recommend
> for trouble shooting and if there are do you mind explaining them?

Try "ping -i.4" in *nix or the equivalent. You need to keep the ping iterations 
under 400 milliseconds to force the modem to be active continuously.

-- 
Regards,
Kevin R. Battersby 



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Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000

2010-09-11 Thread Greg Ihnen
Mac OS X (bash) says:

ping -i.4 192.168.7.1
ping: -i interval too short: Operation not permitted

using sudo makes it work.

It might be the same for Linux.

Greg

On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Kevin R. Battersby wrote:

> On September 11, 2010, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>> That is from the CCU side.  In all of our testing we are seeing high ping
>> spikes.  Is there any other commands than "air" that you would recommend
>> for trouble shooting and if there are do you mind explaining them?
> 
> Try "ping -i.4" in *nix or the equivalent. You need to keep the ping 
> iterations 
> under 400 milliseconds to force the modem to be active continuously.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Kevin R. Battersby 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000

2010-09-11 Thread Greg Ihnen
What about using flood ping "-f". Does that work in Linux. I use that in Mac OS 
X.

Greg

On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Kevin R. Battersby wrote:

> On September 11, 2010, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>> That is from the CCU side.  In all of our testing we are seeing high ping
>> spikes.  Is there any other commands than "air" that you would recommend
>> for trouble shooting and if there are do you mind explaining them?
> 
> Try "ping -i.4" in *nix or the equivalent. You need to keep the ping 
> iterations 
> under 400 milliseconds to force the modem to be active continuously.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Kevin R. Battersby 




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Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000

2010-09-11 Thread Jeremie Chism
Part of their mac polling will turn it off if their is not traffic for a while. 
If I remember correctly their is a high priority setting that will keep it up. 
I will check all that at the office Monday. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 11, 2010, at 8:34 PM, "Kevin R. Battersby"  wrote:

> On September 11, 2010, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>> That is from the CCU side.  In all of our testing we are seeing high ping
>> spikes.  Is there any other commands than "air" that you would recommend
>> for trouble shooting and if there are do you mind explaining them?
> 
> Try "ping -i.4" in *nix or the equivalent. You need to keep the ping 
> iterations 
> under 400 milliseconds to force the modem to be active continuously.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Kevin R. Battersby 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000

2010-09-13 Thread my_em...@webjogger.net
 An elevated noise floor will push your avg rssi levels up basically 
making your acceptable EUM signal levels higher than usual. A typical 
EUM under perfect conditions can have link up to -89, but with an 
elevated noise floor the acceptable signal level becomes higher and 
higher. You'll need to run a spectrum analysis at the CCU to see what 
noise floor you get.


A good way to test is with the   and  commands 
either from the EUM or CCU. This performs a bandwidth test between 
radios. My experience is that with a unacceptable connection the upload 
will be really slow or non existent.


By the way, I have an excess inventory of these radios that I'm looking 
to sell real cheap. Contact me off list if you're interested.


Jon


On 9/12/2010 12:53 AM, Chris Hudson wrote:

In the eum (client) use 'ra li' and make sure you see at least 6 for signal 
strength and 3 for quality. Waveriders are polling protocol and high latency is 
normal unless you keep the data connection active.

Chris

Chuck Hogg  wrote:


That is from the CCU side.  In all of our testing we are seeing high ping
spikes.  Is there any other commands than "air" that you would recommend for
trouble shooting and if there are do you mind explaining them?

Regards,

Chuck


On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:35 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net<
my_em...@webjogger.net>  wrote:


  I think a lot depends on what the signal strength is on the CCU (AU) side.
I several links that from the EUM (SU) are worse than -85, but at the CCU
they are better than -78. Mind you these links aren't supper fast though,
especially on the upload. It's okay if they're a lower usage customer.

Jon


On 9/10/2010 6:54 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

Does anyone use this equipment or have experience in using this equipment?

  With Canopy/UBNT/MikroTik we have pretty much set the standard for QoS
reasons that the signal should not be worse than -75.  I have seen another
WISP using this older WaveRider gear, and most of his clients are at -80 to
-95.  Are signals using this equipment that usable at those rates?  Can
anyone shed some light on this really old gear?  Any information is
appreciated...

Regards,

Chuck





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