Re: [WISPA] content filtering as a premium service for subscribers
I've used squidguard and has worked really well. I have a script that updates the database every hour. On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 11:23 -0500, Justin Wilson wrote: WebSense is a good product. The thing about any type of web filtering is you have to keep on top of it. Companies such as Websense push out almost daily updates on new sites, false positives, etc. If you “roll your own” be prepared to be writing exceptions a lot. There are new web-sites everyday. Not only that you have new content everyday on exiting web-sites. The example I always use is a site that goes into detail about breast cancer. A simple solution may block the site one day, but not the next. Depends on what the author of the web-site wrote that day. My .02 is pay someone who has dedicated staff to do it for you. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support __ From: Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:12:38 -0600 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] content filtering as a premium service for subscribers Anyone offering web content filtering as a premium service to subscribers? If so what have you found works best? We’ve had a few requests, and are trying to see if it is worthwhile. Thanks, Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 __ Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. __ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] content filtering as a premium service for subscribers
Anyone offering web content filtering as a premium service to subscribers? If so what have you found works best? We've had a few requests, and are trying to see if it is worthwhile. Thanks, Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] content filtering as a premium service for subscribers
WebSense is a good product. The thing about any type of web filtering is you have to keep on top of it. Companies such as Websense push out almost daily updates on new sites, false positives, etc. If you ³roll your own² be prepared to be writing exceptions a lot. There are new web-sites everyday. Not only that you have new content everyday on exiting web-sites. The example I always use is a site that goes into detail about breast cancer. A simple solution may block the site one day, but not the next. Depends on what the author of the web-site wrote that day. My .02 is pay someone who has dedicated staff to do it for you. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:12:38 -0600 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] content filtering as a premium service for subscribers Anyone offering web content filtering as a premium service to subscribers? If so what have you found works best? We¹ve had a few requests, and are trying to see if it is worthwhile. Thanks, Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Content Filtering
Hi all, We want to add content filtering service to our WISP, especially for kids control. We are thinking about CensorNet Pro. Are you selling this service? Which software/hardware are you using? Thanks, Luis WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering
Luis- We have experimented with OpenDNS (free) which does an OK job of content blocking on one of the Muni Mesh systems, but not used it in production. Not even sure if you can sell it and it is pretty easily defeated. It is probably something you could offer for free, though. Ralph From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Luis Abenza Sánchez Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Content Filtering Hi all, We want to add content filtering service to our WISP, especially for kids control. We are thinking about CensorNet Pro. Are you selling this service? Which software/hardware are you using? Thanks, Luis WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering
Imagestream has a solution. Not done much research on it. But they have something. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:54:42 -0400 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering Luis- We have experimented with OpenDNS (free) which does an OK job of content blocking on one of the Muni Mesh systems, but not used it in production. Not even sure if you can sell it and it is pretty easily defeated. It is probably something you could offer for free, though. Ralph From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Luis Abenza Sánchez Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Content Filtering Hi all, We want to add content filtering service to our WISP, especially for kids control. We are thinking about CensorNet Pro. Are you selling this service? Which software/hardware are you using? Thanks, Luis WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering
Set setup a linux box with squid and dansguardian on it. Customers can use it at no cost by changing their proxy settings. Very reliable, almost no support required compared to installable software. Just another reason for some customers to keep service with us. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 01:07:44PM +0200, Luis Abenza Sánchez wrote: Hi all, We want to add content filtering service to our WISP, especially for kids control. We are thinking about CensorNet Pro. Are you selling this service? Which software/hardware are you using? Thanks, Luis WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering
2010/8/11 Luis Abenza Sánchez l...@excom.es We want to add content filtering service to our WISP, especially for kids control. We are thinking about CensorNet Pro. I'd suggest you have a nice long talk about this with your lawyer before doing anything like this. Sounds like a good way to open yourself up to liability if your blocking isn't 100% effective (it won't be) and little Timmy sees Janet Jackson's breast pop out or something. (I know you're in Spain, or at least have a .es email address, and I don't know what your country's laws are like, but at least in the US this looks likes something you'd want to be very cautious about doing.) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering
We use Netsweeper and have been pretty please with that. -Layne ServerPlus From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Luis Abenza Sánchez Sent: Wed 8/11/2010 5:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Content Filtering Hi all, We want to add content filtering service to our WISP, especially for kids control. We are thinking about CensorNet Pro. Are you selling this service? Which software/hardware are you using? Thanks, Luis WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering
Ralph, You could redirect all DNS requests to your Open DNS server in your Mikrotik Routers, defeating any defeat attempts by the clients Mike On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: Luis- We have experimented with OpenDNS (free) which does an OK job of content blocking on one of the Muni Mesh systems, but not used it in production. Not even sure if you can sell it and it is pretty easily defeated. It is probably something you could offer for free, though. Ralph *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Luis Abenza Sánchez *Sent:* Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:08 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Content Filtering Hi all, We want to add content filtering service to our WISP, especially for kids control. We are thinking about CensorNet Pro. Are you selling this service? Which software/hardware are you using? Thanks, Luis WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering
Open DNS was what I was thinking as well. You could just give a link to it on your website then it's not you problem but then again no profit either. If you set something up make sure you have an policy that states its not your job to be 100% and that the dark side of the web is always working to get around whatever you put on there to stop it. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Servicehttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Delp Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 3:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering Ralph, You could redirect all DNS requests to your Open DNS server in your Mikrotik Routers, defeating any defeat attempts by the clients Mike On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Ralph ralphli...@bsrg.orgmailto:ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: Luis- We have experimented with OpenDNS (free) which does an OK job of content blocking on one of the Muni Mesh systems, but not used it in production. Not even sure if you can sell it and it is pretty easily defeated. It is probably something you could offer for free, though. Ralph From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Luis Abenza Sánchez Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Content Filtering Hi all, We want to add content filtering service to our WISP, especially for kids control. We are thinking about CensorNet Pro. Are you selling this service? Which software/hardware are you using? Thanks, Luis WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering
What I use at home on my kids pc. FREE!! http://www1.k9webprotection.com/getk9/download-software.php Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:20 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Content Filtering Recommendations for home user grade content filtering (either software or hardware) - thanks. `S WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering
Untangle, Astaro (free 10 user - 10 IP address). Astaro is professional grade and really nice but it can be hard saying under the 10 IP limit if you have lots of network enabled devices. Untangle is more consumer grade with a cartoon like interface but it's still pretty cool. Greg On Apr 13, 2009, at 12:49 AM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote: Recommendations for home user grade content filtering (either software or hardware) - thanks. `S WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering
Yeah, I forgot to mention OpenDNS but you have to set up your router to block or redirect access to other DNS services. Otherwise they'll just go right around it. Another thing about OpenDNS is you will have a record of what bad sites were attempted, but you can't tell which computer because it's on the other side of the NAT. Something like Untangle or Astaro will tell you who, what, where and when. Greg On Apr 13, 2009, at 12:57 AM, Chuck Profito wrote: No sub for daddy and mommy... Cheep i.e. FREE,opendns -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 10:20 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Content Filtering Recommendations for home user grade content filtering (either software or hardware) - thanks. `S WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering
That works good for young kids to keep them from bumping into bad stuff, but if your kids are older and more determined to get to what you're trying to block then a solution they don't have physical access to it mandatory. Greg On Apr 13, 2009, at 8:07 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: What I use at home on my kids pc. FREE!! http://www1.k9webprotection.com/getk9/download-software.php Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:20 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Content Filtering Recommendations for home user grade content filtering (either software or hardware) - thanks. `S WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Content Filtering
Recommendations for home user grade content filtering (either software or hardware) - thanks. `S WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filtering
No sub for daddy and mommy... Cheep i.e. FREE,opendns -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 10:20 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Content Filtering Recommendations for home user grade content filtering (either software or hardware) - thanks. `S WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] content filtering
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[WISPA] Content Filtering
I currently use SonicWall's Content Filter for my entire network. (No discussion about whether that is good or bad, please. It is bringing me cutomers.) Problem is cost. I can not afford $1000/yr for the subscription. Anyone know of a content filter that is relativly inexpensive and works? Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/