Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency
Classic Marlon! "Its always the second one..." -- Bob wan kim "Why its impossible to Get What You Want" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAeSgsQtYNE On Friday, October 15, 2010, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > Yeah, that was my first thought. > > The only reason to do this is to cause problems for someone. > > Do NOT go that route Scott. It's always the second one in a fight that gets > into the most trouble. > > Get a hold of a spectrum analyzer, document what's being done and then sue > their tails off. The FCC, local law enforcement etc. will go after anyone > being malicious with the spectrum. > > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Piehn" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:30 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency > > >> what comes around goes around. >> >> >> >> Scott Piehn >> - Original Message ----- >> From: "Jeromie Reeves" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:59 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency >> >> >>> This begs the question, Why? >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Scott Piehn wrote: >>>> I know you can completely use spectrum by doing a bandwidth test or >>>> something else, but that takes two sides to the link. I only have one. >>>> Is it possible without a remote site you are linking to. >>>> >>>> This is using ubnt M5 line >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Scott Piehn >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archi -- Robert Q Kim 2611 S Coast Highway San Diego, CA 92007 310 598 1606 My Latest Blog Post: http://sparkah.com/2010/07/29/experienced-iphone-app-developer-los-angeles-how-to-tell-if-youre-going-to-get-burnt/ http://sparkah.com/2010/08/25/facebook-marketing-strategies-from-nyc-and-los-angeles-most-devious-minds-2/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency
Thank you for the input we are in the discussion phase, but want to be prepared for the next step if we don't have good results Scott Piehn - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency > We have no protection from interference at the part-15 level. > > But there is civil protection against deliberate acts of espionage, > terrorism, strong arming etc. > > Maybe Larry knows someone in your state. > > I'd also call the FCC (800-callfcc) and ask to speak to an enforcement > person. They'll hook you up with the person in your state who will then > want to see the evidence that you've put forth. I've turned people in for > running outside the rules and had success in doing so. I tried to talk to > them first, get them to fix what they were doing so that we'd all be > better > off. They refused, I escalated the situation. They got a fine and had to > redesign their network, in the end my system works better and my customers > are happier. Their system runs better and their customers are happier too > (that's the only down side to it :-). > > Also, go talk to the local law enforcement folks that deal with more > technical issues. Chances are there is some kind of racketeering law that > could be used against these guys. > > laters, > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Piehn" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 6:44 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency > > >> Already have the spectrum Analyzer, already documenting >> I was under the impression that Part 15 had no protection >> >> I would gladly pursue legal options if they exist. Anyone point me to >> lawyer, source of information, etc >> >> -------- >> Scott Piehn >> - Original Message - >> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 12:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency >> >> >>> Yeah, that was my first thought. >>> >>> The only reason to do this is to cause problems for someone. >>> >>> Do NOT go that route Scott. It's always the second one in a fight that >>> gets >>> into the most trouble. >>> >>> Get a hold of a spectrum analyzer, document what's being done and then >>> sue >>> their tails off. The FCC, local law enforcement etc. will go after >>> anyone >>> being malicious with the spectrum. >>> >>> marlon >>> >>> - Original Message ----- >>> From: "Scott Piehn" >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:30 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency >>> >>> >>>> what comes around goes around. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Scott Piehn >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Jeromie Reeves" >>>> To: "WISPA General List" >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:59 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency >>>> >>>> >>>>> This begs the question, Why? >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Scott Piehn wrote: >>>>>> I know you can completely use spectrum by doing a bandwidth test or >>>>>> something else, but that takes two sides to the link. I only have >>>>>> one. >>>>>> Is it possible without a remote site you are linking to. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is using ubnt M5 line >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Scott Piehn >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wisp
Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency
We have no protection from interference at the part-15 level. But there is civil protection against deliberate acts of espionage, terrorism, strong arming etc. Maybe Larry knows someone in your state. I'd also call the FCC (800-callfcc) and ask to speak to an enforcement person. They'll hook you up with the person in your state who will then want to see the evidence that you've put forth. I've turned people in for running outside the rules and had success in doing so. I tried to talk to them first, get them to fix what they were doing so that we'd all be better off. They refused, I escalated the situation. They got a fine and had to redesign their network, in the end my system works better and my customers are happier. Their system runs better and their customers are happier too (that's the only down side to it :-). Also, go talk to the local law enforcement folks that deal with more technical issues. Chances are there is some kind of racketeering law that could be used against these guys. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: "Scott Piehn" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 6:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency > Already have the spectrum Analyzer, already documenting > I was under the impression that Part 15 had no protection > > I would gladly pursue legal options if they exist. Anyone point me to > lawyer, source of information, etc > > > Scott Piehn > - Original Message - > From: "Marlon K. Schafer" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 12:19 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency > > >> Yeah, that was my first thought. >> >> The only reason to do this is to cause problems for someone. >> >> Do NOT go that route Scott. It's always the second one in a fight that >> gets >> into the most trouble. >> >> Get a hold of a spectrum analyzer, document what's being done and then >> sue >> their tails off. The FCC, local law enforcement etc. will go after >> anyone >> being malicious with the spectrum. >> >> marlon >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Scott Piehn" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency >> >> >>> what comes around goes around. >>> >>> >>> >>> Scott Piehn >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jeromie Reeves" >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:59 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency >>> >>> >>>> This begs the question, Why? >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Scott Piehn wrote: >>>>> I know you can completely use spectrum by doing a bandwidth test or >>>>> something else, but that takes two sides to the link. I only have one. >>>>> Is it possible without a remote site you are linking to. >>>>> >>>>> This is using ubnt M5 line >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Scott Piehn >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>>> >>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>> >>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>> >&
Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency
Already have the spectrum Analyzer, already documenting I was under the impression that Part 15 had no protection I would gladly pursue legal options if they exist. Anyone point me to lawyer, source of information, etc Scott Piehn - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency > Yeah, that was my first thought. > > The only reason to do this is to cause problems for someone. > > Do NOT go that route Scott. It's always the second one in a fight that > gets > into the most trouble. > > Get a hold of a spectrum analyzer, document what's being done and then sue > their tails off. The FCC, local law enforcement etc. will go after anyone > being malicious with the spectrum. > > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Piehn" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:30 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency > > >> what comes around goes around. >> >> >> >> Scott Piehn >> ----- Original Message - >> From: "Jeromie Reeves" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:59 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency >> >> >>> This begs the question, Why? >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Scott Piehn wrote: >>>> I know you can completely use spectrum by doing a bandwidth test or >>>> something else, but that takes two sides to the link. I only have one. >>>> Is it possible without a remote site you are linking to. >>>> >>>> This is using ubnt M5 line >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Scott Piehn >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency
Yeah, that was my first thought. The only reason to do this is to cause problems for someone. Do NOT go that route Scott. It's always the second one in a fight that gets into the most trouble. Get a hold of a spectrum analyzer, document what's being done and then sue their tails off. The FCC, local law enforcement etc. will go after anyone being malicious with the spectrum. marlon - Original Message - From: "Scott Piehn" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency > what comes around goes around. > > > > Scott Piehn > - Original Message - > From: "Jeromie Reeves" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:59 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency > > >> This begs the question, Why? >> >> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Scott Piehn wrote: >>> I know you can completely use spectrum by doing a bandwidth test or >>> something else, but that takes two sides to the link. I only have one. >>> Is it possible without a remote site you are linking to. >>> >>> This is using ubnt M5 line >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Scott Piehn >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency
Well I don't agree with that but I am curious to know if it can be done. I don't think so but make a switch loop. On Oct 14, 2010 11:30 PM, "Scott Piehn" wrote: > what comes around goes around. > > > > Scott Piehn > - Original Message - > From: "Jeromie Reeves" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:59 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency > > >> This begs the question, Why? >> >> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Scott Piehn wrote: >>> I know you can completely use spectrum by doing a bandwidth test or >>> something else, but that takes two sides to the link. I only have one. >>> Is it possible without a remote site you are linking to. >>> >>> This is using ubnt M5 line >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Scott Piehn >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency
what comes around goes around. Scott Piehn - Original Message - From: "Jeromie Reeves" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency > This begs the question, Why? > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Scott Piehn wrote: >> I know you can completely use spectrum by doing a bandwidth test or >> something else, but that takes two sides to the link. I only have one. >> Is it possible without a remote site you are linking to. >> >> This is using ubnt M5 line >> >> >> >> >> Scott Piehn >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency
MT. on the ethernet Scott Piehn - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency Hmm, ping flood on the rf side? What do you have it plugged in to? On Oct 14, 2010 10:56 PM, "Scott Piehn" wrote: > I know you can completely use spectrum by doing a bandwidth test or something else, but that takes two sides to the link. I only have one. > Is it possible without a remote site you are linking to. > > This is using ubnt M5 line > > > > > > Scott Piehn -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency
Hmm, ping flood on the rf side? What do you have it plugged in to? On Oct 14, 2010 10:56 PM, "Scott Piehn" wrote: > I know you can completely use spectrum by doing a bandwidth test or something else, but that takes two sides to the link. I only have one. > Is it possible without a remote site you are linking to. > > This is using ubnt M5 line > > > > > > Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency
This begs the question, Why? On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Scott Piehn wrote: > I know you can completely use spectrum by doing a bandwidth test or > something else, but that takes two sides to the link. I only have one. > Is it possible without a remote site you are linking to. > > This is using ubnt M5 line > > > > > Scott Piehn > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] saturate frequency
I know you can completely use spectrum by doing a bandwidth test or something else, but that takes two sides to the link. I only have one. Is it possible without a remote site you are linking to. This is using ubnt M5 line Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
