[WISPA] Service in Ragland, AL

2019-09-25 Thread David Funderburk via Wireless
Are there any WISPs that can serve this area? If so, please contact me
off list. 

80 Cement Drive, Ragland, AL 35131 

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Re: [WISPA] Service in Finger Lakes?

2018-12-20 Thread Bill MacNamara
You could ask these folks based out of Ithaca.

https://www.fiberspark.com/about.php

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf Of 
Brian J. Smith
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 6:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in Finger Lakes?

Hi Rob,  Attached is an example fiber lit building list for the region.  
CTL/Level3 might work if Geneva is an option,  Verizon I never find to be 
equitable.

Best,

Brian
800-997-8281

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 2:14 PM Jason Guzzo 
mailto:jason.gu...@hvwisp.com>> wrote:
Rob,

FirstLight purchased the assets of FingerLake Technologies and had Fiber Optic 
facilities in the area for Middle Mile.  Frontier was awarded funding in the 
New NY Broadband Grant in that general area along with Hughes (satellite). The 
closet WISP that I know of is Clarity Fiber Solutions in Ithaca, NY or NYSYS in 
Rochester, NY.

Jason Guzzo - General Manager
Hudson Valley Wireless
34 Russell Rd. | Albany, NY 12205
E-mail: jason.gu...@hvwisp.com<mailto:jason.gu...@hvwisp.com>
Web: http://www.hvwisp.com | http://www.hvcomm.com
Main: 518.458.7006Direct: 518.379.9470  Direct Fax: 518.379.9469
Connect with us:

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Subject: [WISPA] Service in Finger Lakes?

Hello WISPA community,

Does anyone offer service in the Finger Lakes area of New York; specifically 
the stretch between Keuka and Seneca lakes?

Thanks,
Rob

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Re: [WISPA] Service in Finger Lakes?

2018-12-19 Thread Joe Buck
Rob,

We have a network up and active in Geneva on the north end of Keuka Lake.
Please feel free to reach out to us anytime.



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Rob,

We have a network up and active in Geneva on the north end of Keuka Lake.
Please feel free to reach out to us anytime



Joe Buck - NCE / E2-02097
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jason Guzzo
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 5:18 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in Finger Lakes?

Rob,

FirstLight purchased the assets of FingerLake Technologies and had Fiber
Optic facilities in the area for Middle Mile.  Frontier was awarded funding
in the New NY Broadband Grant in that general area along with Hughes
(satellite). The closet WISP that I know of is Clarity Fiber Solutions in
Ithaca, NY or NYSYS in Rochester, NY. 

Jason Guzzo - General Manager
Hudson Valley Wireless
34 Russell Rd. | Albany, NY 12205
E-mail: jason.gu...@hvwisp.com
Web: http://www.hvwisp.com | http://www.hvcomm.com
Main: 518.458.7006    Direct: 518.379.9470  Direct Fax:
518.379.9469  
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf Of
Robert Doty
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 9:39 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Service in Finger Lakes?

Hello WISPA community,

Does anyone offer service in the Finger Lakes area of New York; specifically
the stretch between Keuka and Seneca lakes?

Thanks,
Rob

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Re: [WISPA] Service in Finger Lakes?

2018-12-19 Thread Brian J. Smith
Hi Rob,  Attached is an example fiber lit building list for the region.
CTL/Level3 might work if Geneva is an option,  Verizon I never find to be
equitable.

Best,

Brian
800-997-8281

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 2:14 PM Jason Guzzo  wrote:

> Rob,
>
> FirstLight purchased the assets of FingerLake Technologies and had Fiber
> Optic facilities in the area for Middle Mile.  Frontier was awarded funding
> in the New NY Broadband Grant in that general area along with Hughes
> (satellite). The closet WISP that I know of is Clarity Fiber Solutions in
> Ithaca, NY or NYSYS in Rochester, NY.
>
> Jason Guzzo - General Manager
> Hudson Valley Wireless
> 34 Russell Rd. | Albany, NY 12205
> E-mail: jason.gu...@hvwisp.com
> Web: http://www.hvwisp.com | http://www.hvcomm.com
> Main: 518.458.7006Direct: 518.379.9470  Direct Fax:
> 518.379.9469
> Connect with us:
>
> Scheduling Page:
> https://hudsonvalley.acuityscheduling.com/schedule.php?calendarID=1118971
> GoToMeeting: https://www.gotomeet.me/JasonGuzzo
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> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf
> Of Robert Doty
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 9:39 AM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: [WISPA] Service in Finger Lakes?
>
> Hello WISPA community,
>
> Does anyone offer service in the Finger Lakes area of New York;
> specifically the stretch between Keuka and Seneca lakes?
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
>
> --
> G. Robert Doty, MBA
> President & CEO, BlueTie Inc.
> http://www.bluetie.com
> 585-586-2000 x1059
> http://www.LinkedIn.com/in/robertdoty
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Re: [WISPA] Service in Finger Lakes?

2018-12-19 Thread Jason Guzzo
Rob,

FirstLight purchased the assets of FingerLake Technologies and had Fiber Optic 
facilities in the area for Middle Mile.  Frontier was awarded funding in the 
New NY Broadband Grant in that general area along with Hughes (satellite). The 
closet WISP that I know of is Clarity Fiber Solutions in Ithaca, NY or NYSYS in 
Rochester, NY. 

Jason Guzzo - General Manager
Hudson Valley Wireless
34 Russell Rd. | Albany, NY 12205
E-mail: jason.gu...@hvwisp.com
Web: http://www.hvwisp.com | http://www.hvcomm.com
Main: 518.458.7006    Direct: 518.379.9470  Direct Fax: 
518.379.9469  
Connect with us:  

Scheduling Page: 
https://hudsonvalley.acuityscheduling.com/schedule.php?calendarID=1118971
GoToMeeting: https://www.gotomeet.me/JasonGuzzo 

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf Of 
Robert Doty
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 9:39 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Service in Finger Lakes?

Hello WISPA community,

Does anyone offer service in the Finger Lakes area of New York; specifically 
the stretch between Keuka and Seneca lakes?

Thanks,
Rob

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President & CEO, BlueTie Inc.
http://www.bluetie.com
585-586-2000 x1059
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[WISPA] Service in Finger Lakes?

2018-12-19 Thread Robert Doty
Hello WISPA community,

Does anyone offer service in the Finger Lakes area of New York; 
specifically the stretch between Keuka and Seneca lakes?

Thanks,
Rob

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President & CEO, BlueTie Inc.
http://www.bluetie.com
585-586-2000 x1059
http://www.LinkedIn.com/in/robertdoty

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[WISPA] Service request in Mauston, Wisconsin

2017-08-03 Thread Chadwick Wachs
Looking for a provider who has coverage in Mauston, WI. Ideally 100x100 
Mbps but slower options are possible as well.

Please contact off list: c...@auwireless.net
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Re: [WISPA] Service in Charles Town WV??

2017-05-09 Thread Clairmont Baird
Hi Joe,
Could you elaborate more on what type of service they will like to have in
Charles Town.
Thanks
Clairmont Baird
BairdSat Inc
561-319-9534
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:02 PM Joe Lenig  wrote:

> We received a plea for service
>
>
>
> John Rissler Road
>
> Charles Town WV 25414
>
>
>
> If anyone serves the area, hit me off-list and I’ll provide their contact
> info.
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[WISPA] Service in Charles Town WV??

2017-05-09 Thread Joe Lenig
We received a plea for service 

 

John Rissler Road

Charles Town WV 25414

 

If anyone serves the area, hit me off-list and I'll provide their contact
info.

 

joele...@vabb.com  

 

 

 

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Re: [WISPA] Service Check for Elkhorn, WI

2017-01-21 Thread Mike Hammett
http://broadbandnow.com/Wisconsin/Elkhorn?zip=53121#show=all 

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Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


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- Original Message -

From: "Tim Way" <t...@way.vg> 
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 6:55:59 PM 
Subject: [WISPA] Service Check for Elkhorn, WI 


Is anyone able to provide service for W3945 Bray Road, Elkhorn, WI 53121? 


If so please contact me off list. 


Thanks, 


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[WISPA] Service Check for Elkhorn, WI

2017-01-19 Thread Tim Way
Is anyone able to provide service for W3945 Bray Road, Elkhorn, WI 53121?

If so please contact me off list.

Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] Service in Dayton, TX 77535

2016-08-31 Thread Adair Winter
Paging JW Breeden

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 7:32 AM, Paul Vingiello  wrote:

> Can anyone service 14306 Hwy 146, Dayton, TX  77535?
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> Paul Vingiello
> 318-884-0022
> pvingie...@nexussystems.net
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[WISPA] Service in Dayton, TX 77535

2016-08-31 Thread Paul Vingiello
Can anyone service 14306 Hwy 146, Dayton, TX  77535?

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[WISPA] Service in Oakford, IL

2014-08-28 Thread Adam Vocks
Hello all,

 

One of my employees asked me if I know of anyone who provides internet
service in Oakford, IL.  I have no other details than that.

 

If you're in that area let me know.

 

Adam

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[WISPA] Service in Southern New England

2013-04-26 Thread Brian Spade
Does anyone know any companies providing service in Southern New England,
such as Groton / New London, CT?  Prefer 100 Mbps+

Thanks...
/bs
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[WISPA] Service in Las vegas

2012-12-17 Thread Dan Wyant
We have a client looking for 10x10Mbps service at:

 

4150 Donovan Way

North Las Vegas, NV  89030

 

If you think you can provide service let me know.

 

Cheers,

 

Daniel Wyant

CEO

Accel Net Inc.

Cell: 206.228.8753  

Fax: 425.688.3946

www.accelnet.net

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[WISPA] Service in Kings Bay GA?

2012-12-04 Thread Scott Carullo
Get with me if you service this area please.

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102


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[WISPA] Service request

2012-11-27 Thread Blair Davis

  
  
Anybody have service in or near Marshall, MI or Battle Creek, MI?
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Re: [WISPA] Service request

2012-11-27 Thread Gino Villarini
A whopping 3.1 Mbps Air rate?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Blair Davis
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Service request

Anybody have service in or near Marshall, MI or Battle Creek, MI?


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Allegan, Michigan  49010

269-686-8648



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[WISPA] Service in Wagoner, OK

2012-11-13 Thread Chris Hudson
I'm in need of a connection in Wagoner Friday night for a football game to
stream video. I would like at least 2M/2M.

 

 

Thanks!

Chris Hudson

Hudson Technology Solutions, Inc.

214 W Main St

Weatherford, OK 73096

Office: 580-772-2224

Cell: 580-774-9579

 

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Re: [WISPA] Service in western VA

2012-08-06 Thread Jesse Poe
Jeff,

Thanks for sharing this info!

He is mostly interested in leasing his land for the placement of a tower
for cell service and all the service that go with it.

Thank you so much for any info on how he might do so!

jesse




On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.netwrote:

 Hi All,

 There is a gentleman in the far south western tip of VA, just north of the
 NC line that is looking for internet.  He owns 55 acres including a
 mountain
 top.  He is about 25 miles west of Gate City.  Here are the coordinates:
 36.617319, -83.060789

 Is anyone in that area?  He'd be willing to have a tower put on his
 mountain.

 I've copied his son, Jesse Poe on this email.

 Regards,

 Jeff


 Jeff Broadwick
 Sales Manager, Blue Technology
 574-935-8484 x106 (US/Can)
 574-220-7826 (Cell)
 +1 574-935-8484 (Int'l)





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http://www.rfistudios.com|  212.542.5624

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[WISPA] Service in western VA

2012-08-01 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Hi All,

There is a gentleman in the far south western tip of VA, just north of the
NC line that is looking for internet.  He owns 55 acres including a mountain
top.  He is about 25 miles west of Gate City.  Here are the coordinates:
36.617319, -83.060789  

Is anyone in that area?  He'd be willing to have a tower put on his
mountain.

I've copied his son, Jesse Poe on this email.  

Regards,

Jeff


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574-935-8484 x106 (US/Can)
574-220-7826 (Cell)
+1 574-935-8484 (Int'l)


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[WISPA] Service Level Agreement (SLA)

2012-06-04 Thread Ian Framson
Hi Wispa Members,

I've been observing the email group for several months. This is my first
post.

Can anyone share an SLA that they've used? I am providing some rental
equipment to a client who is hosting events at hotels. He wants to make
sure the bandwidth he is buying at the hotel meets his minimum requirements
and wants some teeth in the SLA to hold the hotel accountable.

If anyone has an SLA that we could use as a template to assist the client,
that would be helpful.

Thanks in advance,


Ian Framson
Co-founder/CEO

Trade Show Internet
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[WISPA] Service in Belmont Park, NY?

2012-05-22 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Does anyone service Belmont?
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Re: [WISPA] Service needed

2011-12-23 Thread Ralph
Thanks Marco, will look at them.

And Bay Broadband doesn't go far enough South for Salisbury

 

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If it's the south side of sherman, tx you can call argon at 903-455-5036

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Thanks.


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I think Bay Broadband covers Salisbury, MD.

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 I have found WISPs in Eagle Pass TX and Lake Charles LA.

 But I still need service in Sherman TX and Salisbury MD.



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Re: [WISPA] Service needed

2011-12-21 Thread Marco Coelho
If it's the south side of sherman, tx you can call argon at 903-455-5036

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 Thanks.

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  I have found WISPs in Eagle Pass TX and Lake Charles LA.
 
  But I still need service in Sherman TX and Salisbury MD.
 
 
 
  Anyone got any ideas?
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Service needed

2011-12-15 Thread Ralph
I have found WISPs in Eagle Pass TX and Lake Charles LA.

But I still need service in Sherman TX and Salisbury MD.

 

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Re: [WISPA] Service needed

2011-12-15 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 12/15/2011 12:52 PM, Ralph wrote:


I have found WISPs in Eagle Pass TX and Lake Charles LA.
But I still need service in Sherman TX and Salisbury MD.

Anyone got any ideas?

Try Internet Texoma (http://www.texoma.net ) for Sherman, TX.


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Re: [WISPA] Service needed

2011-12-15 Thread Ralph
Thanks Fred

Thanks, Eric (from offlist) and Fred!

We just got a 1 day turnaround on Eagle Pass from the local WISP, wcc.net
The installer just turned it up to me. It's a 2.4 Canopy  2Mb/385k



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I have found WISPs in Eagle Pass TX and Lake Charles LA.
But I still need service in Sherman TX and Salisbury MD.

Anyone got any ideas?

Try Internet Texoma (http://www.texoma.net ) for Sherman, TX.


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Re: [WISPA] Service needed

2011-12-15 Thread can...@believewireless.net
I think Bay Broadband covers Salisbury, MD.

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote:
 I have found WISPs in Eagle Pass TX and Lake Charles LA.

 But I still need service in Sherman TX and Salisbury MD.



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Re: [WISPA] Service needed

2011-12-15 Thread Ralph
Thanks.

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[WISPA] Service in Eagle Pass TX

2011-12-14 Thread Ralph
Have a customer needing service in Eagle Pass.

WISP directory shows WCSonline.net
Anyone know of them, or are they on the list?
Or do you know of another provider. Need approximately T1 speed

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[WISPA] Service in Salisbury MD, Lake Charles LA, Sherman TX

2011-12-14 Thread Ralph
I have a multi-officed customer needing service in 

Salisbury MD and Lake Charles, LA, as well as Sherman TX

 

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[WISPA] Service outside of Austin, TX (Bastrop)

2011-12-08 Thread Dylan Bouterse
Does anyone on this list have residential service in Bastrop, TX? If so, please 
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Re: [WISPA] Service in Deland,Fl

2011-08-24 Thread Jason Bailey
Thanks guys!

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From: Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in Deland,Fl
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
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They aren’t far from each other. :oP
 
We can get to within a dozen miles of Deland, but not quite Deland. L
 
Dylan
 

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Have an old friend that needs service. Hit me offlist. Thanks! Jason

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[WISPA] service near palmyra, va?

2011-07-15 Thread Shaddi Hasan
I have a friend who is looking for service in Palmyra, VA. Do any of
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Re: [WISPA] Service in Idaho

2011-06-22 Thread Forrest Christian


  
  

  

  Speedyquick
John Silva 
357 E. Watertower St.
Meridian, Idaho 83642
United States


  


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[WISPA] Service call in Fresno and SMATV install in San Diego

2011-06-18 Thread Jerry Richardson
Service call Problem Description :
MDF PoE Switch and Access Point connected to it are showing down. The PoE 
switch is connected off of the internal core in the MDF

Directions to Technician :
Need tech to investigate, checking for physical and electrical issues. This 
includes the following:
* State of managed devices, particularly switches, via console
* Environmental conditions, including temperature and cleanliness
* State of electrical, especially grounding and power consumption constraints
* Etc.

In order to maintain accurate documentation, tech should bring a camera, taking 
pictures of the closet being worked in and the MDF.


San Diego
apartment complex SMATV installation. I don't have the details, but t's a lot 
of cable pulling. Probably 5 installers for 2 weeks. If you have the resources, 
I will put you in touch with my client.

Thanks


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[WISPA] Service in Lumberton,nc

2011-04-15 Thread Bill Price
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Re: [WISPA] Service request

2011-03-04 Thread Mark Nash

I grew up in LA... I didn't know the street names went that low!!! :)

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Re: [WISPA] Service request

2011-03-04 Thread RickG
So did I and they do ;)
Besides growing up there, I also worked there as a Field Engineer for IBM
for nearly 10 years. Got to know every street like the back of my hand.
Especially the places not to go!

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[WISPA] Service request

2011-03-03 Thread Jerry Richardson
Who can hit this address? 110 East 9th Street

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Re: [WISPA] Service request

2011-03-03 Thread Jerry Richardson
110 East 9th Streetx-apple-data-detectors://0 LA CA 
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2011-02-14 Thread Rick Harnish
In case you missed the Announcement Email I sent out last night, if you
register before the Early Discount Deadline of February 15th, your name will
be placed in the pool to be drawn to win an Apple iPad.  Make sure you take
advantage of a $40 savings on Early Discounts and have a chance to win this
very nice prize.  

 

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Provider Summit March 23-25

 

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[WISPA] service in Grove City, OH

2010-11-15 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Someone please help this guy.

 

 

  _  

From: John A Sterling [mailto:john.a.sterl...@jpmchase.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 1:33 PM
To: k...@wavelinc.com
Cc: johnasterling...@gmail.com
Subject: wavelinc

 

I saw your web page about your service in Bucyrus.  My mom lives on the
outskirts of Grove City Ohio and I'm looking for a service like yours in her
area.  I know that you don't have service down there but thought you might
know another provider.  She currently uses verizonwireless but the signal
was so weak I had to install a directional antenna on the roof.  With that,
she now gets -78dB but the speed is still around 300kbps and she pays
$60/month.  Your site claimed a lot better than that.

 

Please let me know what providers you are aware of near her area.  Here is
here address if you need it:

3836 georgesville Wrightsville Rd., Grove City, OH 43123

 

Thanks,

John

 

JPMorgan Treasury Services  Ofc: 614-213-1731

 

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an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial
instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market
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accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or
statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase 
Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. This transmission may contain
information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or
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recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying,
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attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might
affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the
responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no
responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase  Co., its subsidiaries and
affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from
its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately
contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in
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Re: [WISPA] service in Grove City, OH

2010-11-15 Thread Rick Harnish
According to the WISPA member's map, Avolve, Country Connections, NexGen
Access and Jenco have Grove City surrounded.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=enie=UTF8source=embedmsa=0msid=107401
631252076199983.00047f857c057af1036e4ll=39.027719,-95.625spn=47.209373,74.
707031z=3
ie=UTF8source=embedmsa=0msid=107401631252076199983.00047f857c057af1036e4
ll=39.027719,-95.625spn=47.209373,74.707031z=3

 

Rick

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 1:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] service in Grove City, OH

 

Someone please help this guy.

 

 

  _  

From: John A Sterling [mailto:john.a.sterl...@jpmchase.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 1:33 PM
To: k...@wavelinc.com
Cc: johnasterling...@gmail.com
Subject: wavelinc

 

I saw your web page about your service in Bucyrus.  My mom lives on the
outskirts of Grove City Ohio and I'm looking for a service like yours in her
area.  I know that you don't have service down there but thought you might
know another provider.  She currently uses verizonwireless but the signal
was so weak I had to install a directional antenna on the roof.  With that,
she now gets -78dB but the speed is still around 300kbps and she pays
$60/month.  Your site claimed a lot better than that.

 

Please let me know what providers you are aware of near her area.  Here is
here address if you need it:

3836 georgesville Wrightsville Rd., Grove City, OH 43123

 

Thanks,

John

 

JPMorgan Treasury Services  Ofc: 614-213-1731

 

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statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase 
Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. This transmission may contain
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affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from
its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately
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Re: [WISPA] service in Grove City, OH

2010-11-15 Thread Stuart Pierce
'Just a bit outside' - Bob Euchre

-- Original Message --
From: Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:20:44 -0500

According to the WISPA member's map, Avolve, Country Connections, NexGen
Access and Jenco have Grove City surrounded.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=enie=UTF8source=embedmsa=0msid=107401
631252076199983.00047f857c057af1036e4ll=39.027719,-95.625spn=47.209373,74.
707031z=3
ie=UTF8source=embedmsa=0msid=107401631252076199983.00047f857c057af1036e4
ll=39.027719,-95.625spn=47.209373,74.707031z=3

 

Rick

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 1:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] service in Grove City, OH

 

Someone please help this guy.

 

 

  _  

From: John A Sterling [mailto:john.a.sterl...@jpmchase.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 1:33 PM
To: k...@wavelinc.com
Cc: johnasterling...@gmail.com
Subject: wavelinc

 

I saw your web page about your service in Bucyrus.  My mom lives on the
outskirts of Grove City Ohio and I'm looking for a service like yours in her
area.  I know that you don't have service down there but thought you might
know another provider.  She currently uses verizonwireless but the signal
was so weak I had to install a directional antenna on the roof.  With that,
she now gets -78dB but the speed is still around 300kbps and she pays
$60/month.  Your site claimed a lot better than that.

 

Please let me know what providers you are aware of near her area.  Here is
here address if you need it:

3836 georgesville Wrightsville Rd., Grove City, OH 43123

 

Thanks,

John

 

JPMorgan Treasury Services  Ofc: 614-213-1731

 

This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as
an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial
instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market
prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or
accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or
statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase 
Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. This transmission may contain
information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or
exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended
recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying,
distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any
reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any
attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might
affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the
responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no
responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase  Co., its subsidiaries and
affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from
its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately
contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in
electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. Please refer to
http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures for disclosures relating to
European legal entities. 





 





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Re: [WISPA] service in Grove City, OH

2010-11-15 Thread Glenn Kelley
Contact Country Connections - they might be able to help.
www.CountryConnections.net 




On Nov 15, 2010, at 9:52 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote:

 3836 georgesville Wrightsville Rd., Grove City, OH 43123

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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-12 Thread Jason Hensley
I have considered doing this but have not yet implemented. 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:54 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

 

Customer LOVE options to fit their particular needs and budget. Therefore,
we offer multiple options including no agreement (month-to-month) or term
agreements up to two years with discounts depending on the length or terms.
This is viewed as a positive because of the flexibility. 

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote:

Well, personally we just did away with contracts.  They became cumbersome
and almost impossible to enforce and the customers were just skipping town
without paying anyway.  We tout this as a positive to our customers - that
even though they have to pay a setup / install fee, we don't lock them into
a long-term agreement.  Works GREAT for our college customers.

Our agreement is one piece of paper, info on both sides.  It lays out just
the basics of what we're providing, as well as the penalties if they don't
return their equipment when they're done with the service, and then
references our TOS for more info.  Our installer fills it out with their
info onsite, shows them the speedtest results, includes that on the sheet,
gets customers signature and check (or cash) and they are done.






-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Don Grossman
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

How do you work that with outside collection agencies when they skip?  Our
collection agency wants something stating the customer in fact agreed to the
terms.

Don

On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

 Yes...everything electronically.

 Cameron

 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote:
 All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to
 lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I
 don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the
 similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to
 have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around
 playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when
 the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The
 customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the
 cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or
 prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is
 winding down.

 We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but
 the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands.
 Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving
 paper.

 We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher
 setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when.
 We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow
 through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the
 customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for
 customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a
 contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem
 we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for
 reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a
 photocopy of the one they signed.







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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-12 Thread RickG
Contracts are never for the client.
They are always to protect you - the seller.

Not completely true. My contract customers get a price break and their rates
are locked in.

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote:

 Contracts are never for the client.
 They are always to protect you - the seller.

 Without a contract - if a business comes and states that you are
 responsible for a loss of business - you might think twice.
 Verbal contracts are only as good as the paper they are written on.

 Just ask Judge Joe Brown ;-)

 Funny part is - Most business clients want a contract.
 Even for our hosting customers its the same.

 Go figure


 On Nov 12, 2010, at 12:37 AM, Robert West wrote:

 Been there.  Found that customers were increasingly “aggravated” with
 contracts.  Turned it all upside down and now I only have them sign a combo
 TOS and the equipment is ours and we can come and go to service it at will.
 I give a spiel of how “contracts are BS because if someone wants you to sign
 a contract, they must know something that you don’t……….  We’re family and
 you are now part of it.  If you don’t like the service, call me……  yada,
 yada, yada.  We all bond and it’s all good.

 Works for us and we become the rebels against the contract pushers.  (It’s
 all marketing)


 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Jeremy Rodgers
 *Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:39 PM
 *To:* wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* [WISPA] Service contracts

 For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year
 term agreement.  For competitive reasons we are evaluating this.  One
 barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation
 to customer returning it.  With our current situation striking while the
 iron is hot is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the
 agreement to be returned.  It is also intimidating at 6 pages long.

 So...a couple questions

 -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)
 -What does your process look like
 -Do your installers get the paperwork signed
 -What advantages are there to a term agreement

 Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the
 Terms of Service on our website.  When the new customer calls we can
 schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer.
 Anything you see as a disadvantage with this?

 Any input is appreciated!
 --
 *Jeremy J. Rodgers*
 Sales Manager
 OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless
 O: 260.827.2234
 O: 800.363.0989
 F: 260.824.9624

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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-12 Thread RickG
Robert, Then you dont offer term discounts?

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 Been there.  Found that customers were increasingly “aggravated” with
 contracts.  Turned it all upside down and now I only have them sign a combo
 TOS and the equipment is ours and we can come and go to service it at will.
 I give a spiel of how “contracts are BS because if someone wants you to sign
 a contract, they must know something that you don’t……….  We’re family and
 you are now part of it.  If you don’t like the service, call me……  yada,
 yada, yada.  We all bond and it’s all good.



 Works for us and we become the rebels against the contract pushers.  (It’s
 all marketing)





 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Jeremy Rodgers
 *Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:39 PM
 *To:* wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* [WISPA] Service contracts



 For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year
 term agreement.  For competitive reasons we are evaluating this.  One
 barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation
 to customer returning it.  With our current situation striking while the
 iron is hot is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the
 agreement to be returned.  It is also intimidating at 6 pages long.

 So...a couple questions

 -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)
 -What does your process look like
 -Do your installers get the paperwork signed
 -What advantages are there to a term agreement

 Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the
 Terms of Service on our website.  When the new customer calls we can
 schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer.
 Anything you see as a disadvantage with this?

 Any input is appreciated!

 --
 *Jeremy J. Rodgers*
 Sales Manager
 OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless
 O: 260.827.2234
 O: 800.363.0989
 F: 260.824.9624

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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-12 Thread Larry Yunker
While I can understand the practicalities of enforcing a relatively
low-dollar value contract, I would point out that there are two very
important reasons to consider having term contracts in place:

1) Banks and other lending institutions like to see proof of future cash
flows (receivables) as a basis upon which to lend.  Having a few hundred
contracts that state that the customer has agreed to continue service with
you for the next 12 to 24 months goes a long ways towards establishing your
credit worthiness.

2) If you were to consider selling your ISP, the purchasing party would
likely place a higher value on your customers if those customers were under
a term contract versus being month-to-month with no recourse.

Regards,
Larry E. Yunker II, Esq.  (Former WISP)

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 3:57 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

Well, personally we just did away with contracts.  They became cumbersome
and almost impossible to enforce and the customers were just skipping town
without paying anyway.  We tout this as a positive to our customers - that
even though they have to pay a setup / install fee, we don't lock them into
a long-term agreement.  Works GREAT for our college customers.  

Our agreement is one piece of paper, info on both sides.  It lays out just
the basics of what we're providing, as well as the penalties if they don't
return their equipment when they're done with the service, and then
references our TOS for more info.  Our installer fills it out with their
info onsite, shows them the speedtest results, includes that on the sheet,
gets customers signature and check (or cash) and they are done.  





-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Don Grossman
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

How do you work that with outside collection agencies when they skip?  Our
collection agency wants something stating the customer in fact agreed to the
terms.

Don

On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

 Yes...everything electronically.
 
 Cameron
 
 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote:
 All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to
 lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I
 don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the
 similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to
 have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around
 playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when
 the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The
 customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the
 cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or
 prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is
 winding down.
 
 We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but
 the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands.
 Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving
 paper.
 
 We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher
 setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when.
 We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow
 through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the
 customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for
 customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a
 contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem
 we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for
 reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a
 photocopy of the one they signed.
 
 





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[WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Jeremy Rodgers


  
  
For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2
year term agreement. For competitive reasons we are evaluating
this. One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from
contract creation to customer returning it. With our current
situation "striking while the iron is hot" is not possible as it
could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be returned. It
is also intimidating at 6 pages long.

So...a couple questions

-How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)
-What does your process look like
-Do your installers get the paperwork signed
-What advantages are there to a term agreement

Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference
the Terms of Service on our website. When the new customer calls we
can schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the
installer. Anything you see as a disadvantage with this?

Any input is appreciated!
-- 
  Jeremy J. Rodgers
  
  Sales Manager
  
  OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless
  O: 260.827.2234
  
  O: 800.363.0989
  
  F: 260.824.9624
  
  
  "But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD." Joshua
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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Cameron Crum
Why do paper at all? Have you ever signed a piece of paper when upgrading
your call phone plan?

Cameron

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Jeremy Rodgers 
jeremyrodg...@onlyinternet.net wrote:

  For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year
 term agreement.  For competitive reasons we are evaluating this.  One
 barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation
 to customer returning it.  With our current situation striking while the
 iron is hot is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the
 agreement to be returned.  It is also intimidating at 6 pages long.

 So...a couple questions

 -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)
 -What does your process look like
 -Do your installers get the paperwork signed
 -What advantages are there to a term agreement

 Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the
 Terms of Service on our website.  When the new customer calls we can
 schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer.
 Anything you see as a disadvantage with this?

 Any input is appreciated!
 --
 *Jeremy J. Rodgers*
 Sales Manager
 OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless
 O: 260.827.2234
 O: 800.363.0989
 F: 260.824.9624

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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Jeremy Rodgers


  
  
I do sign a piece of paper when signing up for new service.  Are you
suggesting doing everything electronically?

On 11/11/2010 12:56 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
Why do paper at all? Have you ever signed a piece of
  paper when upgrading your call phone plan? 
  
  Cameron
  
  On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Jeremy
Rodgers jeremyrodg...@onlyinternet.net
wrote:

   For years now we have
required new residential customers to sign a 2 year term
agreement.  For competitive reasons we are evaluating this. 
One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from
contract creation to customer returning it.  With our
current situation "striking while the iron is hot" is not
possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the
agreement to be returned.  It is also intimidating at 6
pages long.

So...a couple questions

-How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)
-What does your process look like
-Do your installers get the paperwork signed
-What advantages are there to a term agreement

Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and
reference the Terms of Service on our website.  When the new
customer calls we can schedule them right on the spot and
send the paperwork with the installer.  Anything you see as
a disadvantage with this?

Any input is appreciated!
-- 
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  Sales Manager 
  OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless
  O: 260.827.2234 
  O: 800.363.0989 
  F: 260.824.9624 
  
  "…But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD."
  Joshua 24:15 
  
  
  
  

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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Chuck Hogg
We do contracts, with rates based on tiers (
http://www.shelbybb.com/wireless.aspx).  Customers are required to choose a
service plan at time of install for wireless internet and at time of order
for phone or DSL.

Regards,

Chuck


On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Jeremy Rodgers 
jeremyrodg...@onlyinternet.net wrote:

  I do sign a piece of paper when signing up for new service.  Are you
 suggesting doing everything electronically?


 On 11/11/2010 12:56 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

 Why do paper at all? Have you ever signed a piece of paper when upgrading
 your call phone plan?

 Cameron

 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Jeremy Rodgers 
 jeremyrodg...@onlyinternet.net wrote:

  For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year
 term agreement.  For competitive reasons we are evaluating this.  One
 barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation
 to customer returning it.  With our current situation striking while the
 iron is hot is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the
 agreement to be returned.  It is also intimidating at 6 pages long.

 So...a couple questions

 -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)
 -What does your process look like
 -Do your installers get the paperwork signed
 -What advantages are there to a term agreement

 Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the
 Terms of Service on our website.  When the new customer calls we can
 schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer.
 Anything you see as a disadvantage with this?

 Any input is appreciated!
 --
 *Jeremy J. Rodgers*
 Sales Manager
 OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless
 O: 260.827.2234
 O: 800.363.0989
 F: 260.824.9624

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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread jp
All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to 
lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I 
don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the 
similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to 
have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around 
playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when 
the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The 
customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the 
cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or 
prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is 
winding down.

We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but 
the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands. 
Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving 
paper.

We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher 
setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when. 
We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow 
through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the 
customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for 
customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a 
contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem 
we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for 
reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a 
photocopy of the one they signed.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:39:02PM -0500, Jeremy Rodgers wrote:
 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
 html
   head
 
 meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
   /head
   body text=#00 bgcolor=#ff
 For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2
 year term agreement.nbsp; For competitive reasons we are evaluating
 this.nbsp; One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from
 contract creation to customer returning it.nbsp; With our current
 situation striking while the iron is hot is not possible as it
 could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be returned.nbsp; It
 is also intimidating at 6 pages long.br
 br
 So...a couple questionsbr
 br
 -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)br
 -What does your process look likebr
 -Do your installers get the paperwork signedbr
 -What advantages are there to a term agreementbr
 br
 Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference
 the Terms of Service on our website.nbsp; When the new customer calls we
 can schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the
 installer.nbsp; Anything you see as a disadvantage with this?br
 br
 Any input is appreciated!br
 div class=moz-signature-- br
   bfont face=Pristina size=5Jeremy J. Rodgers/font/b
   br
   Sales Manager
   br
   OnlyInternet Broadband and Wirelessbr
   O: 260.827.2234
   br
   O: 800.363.0989
   br
   F: 260.824.9624
   br
   br
   #8230;But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD. Joshua
   24:15
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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Cameron Crum
Yes...everything electronically.

Cameron

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote:

 All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to
 lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I
 don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the
 similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to
 have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around
 playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when
 the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The
 customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the
 cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or
 prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is
 winding down.

 We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but
 the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands.
 Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving
 paper.

 We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher
 setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when.
 We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow
 through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the
 customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for
 customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a
 contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem
 we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for
 reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a
 photocopy of the one they signed.

 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:39:02PM -0500, Jeremy Rodgers wrote:
  !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
  html
head
 
  meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html;
 charset=ISO-8859-1
/head
body text=#00 bgcolor=#ff
  For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2
  year term agreement.nbsp; For competitive reasons we are evaluating
  this.nbsp; One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes
 from
  contract creation to customer returning it.nbsp; With our current
  situation striking while the iron is hot is not possible as it
  could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be returned.nbsp;
 It
  is also intimidating at 6 pages long.br
  br
  So...a couple questionsbr
  br
  -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)br
  -What does your process look likebr
  -Do your installers get the paperwork signedbr
  -What advantages are there to a term agreementbr
  br
  Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference
  the Terms of Service on our website.nbsp; When the new customer
 calls we
  can schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the
  installer.nbsp; Anything you see as a disadvantage with this?br
  br
  Any input is appreciated!br
  div class=moz-signature-- br
bfont face=Pristina size=5Jeremy J. Rodgers/font/b
br
Sales Manager
br
OnlyInternet Broadband and Wirelessbr
O: 260.827.2234
br
O: 800.363.0989
br
F: 260.824.9624
br
br
#8230;But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD.
 Joshua
24:15
  /div
/body
  /html

 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Jeremy Rodgers


  
  
Cameron, I would love to learn more about your process and how you
do this. Does the customer just visit your site and agree by
checking a box to terms and conditions? Do they fill out billing
info, etc. as well? 

On 11/11/2010 3:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
Yes...everything electronically.
  
  Cameron
  
  On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com
wrote:
All the other service providers such as
  DSL and cable are looking to
  lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that
  cellular, but I
  don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand
  the
  similarities that there is a common need to get into a term
  agreement to
  have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping
  around
  playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck
  savings when
  the service providers spend a lot of money on their install.
  The
  customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get
  from the
  cable company or phone company talking about introductory
  prices or
  prices without the fees added, at least till their contract
  period is
  winding down.
  
  We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at
  it, but
  the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's
  hands.
  Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in
  saving
  paper.
  
  We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly
  higher
  setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them
  and when.
  We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers
  don't follow
  through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can
  email the
  customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the
  van for
  customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we
  receive a
  contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is
  a problem
  we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a
  contract for
  reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail
  them a
  photocopy of the one they signed.
  
  On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:39:02PM -0500, Jeremy Rodgers
  wrote:
   !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01
  Transitional//EN"
   html
head
  
 meta http-equiv="content-type"
  content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
/head
body text="#00" bgcolor="#ff"
 For years now we have required new
residential customers to sign a 2
  
 year term agreement.nbsp; For competitive
  reasons we are evaluating
 this.nbsp; One barrier for us has been the
  length of time it takes from
 contract creation to customer returning it.nbsp;
  With our current
 situation "striking while the iron is
hot" is not possible as it
  
 could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be
  returned.nbsp; It
 is also intimidating at 6 pages long.br
 br
 So...a couple questionsbr
 br
 -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and
  term)br
 -What does your process look likebr
 -Do your installers get the paperwork
  signedbr
 -What advantages are there to a term
  agreementbr
 br
 Our thought is to possibly reduce it
down to one page and reference
  
 the Terms of Service on our website.nbsp; When
  the new customer calls we
 can schedule them right on the spot
and send the paperwork with the
  
 installer.nbsp; Anything you see as a
  disadvantage with this?br
 br
 Any input is appreciated!br
 div class="moz-signature"-- br
  bfont face="Pristina"
  size="5"Jeremy J. Rodgers/font/b
  br
  Sales Manager
  br
  OnlyInternet Broadband and Wirelessbr
  O: 260.827.2234
  br
  O: 800.363.0989
  br
  F: 260.824.9624
  br
  br
  "#8230;But as for me and my household, we will
  serve the LORD." Joshua
  24:15
 /div
/body
   /html
  




Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Cameron Crum
When I had a wisp, we made all customers create their account online at the
end of the install. The first step was agreeing to our terms so that nobody
could access our network without clicking through the TOS page and then
filling out their information. That was it. It also had the added benefit of
showing them thier service was working since they had to do it over the
internet.

Cameron

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Jeremy Rodgers 
jeremyrodg...@onlyinternet.net wrote:

  Cameron, I would love to learn more about your process and how you do
 this.  Does the customer just visit your site and agree by checking a box to
 terms and conditions?  Do they fill out billing info, etc. as well?

 On 11/11/2010 3:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

 Yes...everything electronically.

 Cameron

 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote:

 All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to
 lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I
 don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the
 similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to
 have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around
 playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when
 the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The
 customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the
 cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or
 prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is
 winding down.

 We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but
 the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands.
 Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving
 paper.

 We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher
 setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when.
 We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow
 through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the
 customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for
 customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a
 contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem
 we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for
 reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a
 photocopy of the one they signed.

 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:39:02PM -0500, Jeremy Rodgers wrote:
  !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
  html
head
 
  meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html;
 charset=ISO-8859-1
/head
body text=#00 bgcolor=#ff
  For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2
   year term agreement.nbsp; For competitive reasons we are
 evaluating
  this.nbsp; One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes
 from
  contract creation to customer returning it.nbsp; With our current
  situation striking while the iron is hot is not possible as it
   could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be
 returned.nbsp; It
  is also intimidating at 6 pages long.br
  br
  So...a couple questionsbr
  br
  -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)br
  -What does your process look likebr
  -Do your installers get the paperwork signedbr
  -What advantages are there to a term agreementbr
  br
  Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference
   the Terms of Service on our website.nbsp; When the new customer
 calls we
  can schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the
   installer.nbsp; Anything you see as a disadvantage with this?br
  br
  Any input is appreciated!br
  div class=moz-signature-- br
bfont face=Pristina size=5Jeremy J. Rodgers/font/b
br
Sales Manager
br
OnlyInternet Broadband and Wirelessbr
O: 260.827.2234
br
O: 800.363.0989
br
F: 260.824.9624
br
br
#8230;But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD.
 Joshua
24:15
  /div
/body
  /html

 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Don Grossman
How do you work that with outside collection agencies when they skip?  Our 
collection agency wants something stating the customer in fact agreed to the 
terms.

Don

On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

 Yes...everything electronically.
 
 Cameron
 
 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote:
 All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to
 lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I
 don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the
 similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to
 have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around
 playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when
 the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The
 customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the
 cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or
 prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is
 winding down.
 
 We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but
 the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands.
 Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving
 paper.
 
 We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher
 setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when.
 We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow
 through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the
 customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for
 customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a
 contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem
 we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for
 reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a
 photocopy of the one they signed.
 
 




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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Jason Hensley
Well, personally we just did away with contracts.  They became cumbersome
and almost impossible to enforce and the customers were just skipping town
without paying anyway.  We tout this as a positive to our customers - that
even though they have to pay a setup / install fee, we don't lock them into
a long-term agreement.  Works GREAT for our college customers.  

Our agreement is one piece of paper, info on both sides.  It lays out just
the basics of what we're providing, as well as the penalties if they don't
return their equipment when they're done with the service, and then
references our TOS for more info.  Our installer fills it out with their
info onsite, shows them the speedtest results, includes that on the sheet,
gets customers signature and check (or cash) and they are done.  





-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Don Grossman
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

How do you work that with outside collection agencies when they skip?  Our
collection agency wants something stating the customer in fact agreed to the
terms.

Don

On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

 Yes...everything electronically.
 
 Cameron
 
 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote:
 All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to
 lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I
 don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the
 similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to
 have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around
 playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when
 the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The
 customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the
 cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or
 prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is
 winding down.
 
 We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but
 the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands.
 Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving
 paper.
 
 We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher
 setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when.
 We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow
 through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the
 customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for
 customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a
 contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem
 we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for
 reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a
 photocopy of the one they signed.
 
 





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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread RickG
Ditto here. One interesting note: While we condensed down to one page under
our lawyers guidance, I had an opportunity to test against a couple of
customers who happened to be lawyers! The lawyers conceded. We have not had
any issues with customer churn and I do my best to work with the customer
depending on why they want to leave.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 2:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote:

 All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to
 lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I
 don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the
 similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to
 have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around
 playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when
 the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The
 customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the
 cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or
 prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is
 winding down.

 We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but
 the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands.
 Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving
 paper.

 We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher
 setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when.
 We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow
 through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the
 customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for
 customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a
 contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem
 we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for
 reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a
 photocopy of the one they signed.

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  this.nbsp; One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes
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  contract creation to customer returning it.nbsp; With our current
  situation striking while the iron is hot is not possible as it
  could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be returned.nbsp;
 It
  is also intimidating at 6 pages long.br
  br
  So...a couple questionsbr
  br
  -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)br
  -What does your process look likebr
  -Do your installers get the paperwork signedbr
  -What advantages are there to a term agreementbr
  br
  Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference
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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread RickG
Customer LOVE options to fit their particular needs and budget. Therefore,
we offer multiple options including no agreement (month-to-month) or term
agreements up to two years with discounts depending on the length or terms.
This is viewed as a positive because of the flexibility.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote:

 Well, personally we just did away with contracts.  They became cumbersome
 and almost impossible to enforce and the customers were just skipping town
 without paying anyway.  We tout this as a positive to our customers - that
 even though they have to pay a setup / install fee, we don't lock them into
 a long-term agreement.  Works GREAT for our college customers.

 Our agreement is one piece of paper, info on both sides.  It lays out just
 the basics of what we're providing, as well as the penalties if they don't
 return their equipment when they're done with the service, and then
 references our TOS for more info.  Our installer fills it out with their
 info onsite, shows them the speedtest results, includes that on the sheet,
 gets customers signature and check (or cash) and they are done.





 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Don Grossman
 Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:45 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

 How do you work that with outside collection agencies when they skip?  Our
 collection agency wants something stating the customer in fact agreed to
 the
 terms.

 Don

 On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

  Yes...everything electronically.
 
  Cameron
 
  On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote:
  All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to
  lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I
  don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the
  similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to
  have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around
  playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when
  the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The
  customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the
  cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or
  prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is
  winding down.
 
  We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but
  the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands.
  Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving
  paper.
 
  We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher
  setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when.
  We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow
  through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the
  customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for
  customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a
  contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem
  we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for
  reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a
  photocopy of the one they signed.
 
 




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Robert West
Been there.  Found that customers were increasingly aggravated with
contracts.  Turned it all upside down and now I only have them sign a combo
TOS and the equipment is ours and we can come and go to service it at will.
I give a spiel of how contracts are BS because if someone wants you to sign
a contract, they must know something that you don't  We're family and
you are now part of it.  If you don't like the service, call me..  yada,
yada, yada.  We all bond and it's all good.

 

Works for us and we become the rebels against the contract pushers.  (It's
all marketing)

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Rodgers
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:39 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Service contracts

 

For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year
term agreement.  For competitive reasons we are evaluating this.  One
barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation
to customer returning it.  With our current situation striking while the
iron is hot is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the
agreement to be returned.  It is also intimidating at 6 pages long.

So...a couple questions

-How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)
-What does your process look like
-Do your installers get the paperwork signed
-What advantages are there to a term agreement

Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the
Terms of Service on our website.  When the new customer calls we can
schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer.
Anything you see as a disadvantage with this?

Any input is appreciated!

-- 
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Sales Manager 
OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless
O: 260.827.2234 
O: 800.363.0989 
F: 260.824.9624 

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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Glenn Kelley
Contracts are never for the client.
They are always to protect you - the seller.

Without a contract - if a business comes and states that you are responsible 
for a loss of business - you might think twice. 
Verbal contracts are only as good as the paper they are written on. 

Just ask Judge Joe Brown ;-) 

Funny part is - Most business clients want a contract. 
Even for our hosting customers its the same. 

Go figure


On Nov 12, 2010, at 12:37 AM, Robert West wrote:

 Been there.  Found that customers were increasingly “aggravated” with 
 contracts.  Turned it all upside down and now I only have them sign a combo 
 TOS and the equipment is ours and we can come and go to service it at will.  
 I give a spiel of how “contracts are BS because if someone wants you to sign 
 a contract, they must know something that you don’t……….  We’re family and you 
 are now part of it.  If you don’t like the service, call me……  yada, yada, 
 yada.  We all bond and it’s all good.
  
 Works for us and we become the rebels against the contract pushers.  (It’s 
 all marketing)
  
  
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Jeremy Rodgers
 Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:39 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Service contracts
  
 For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year 
 term agreement.  For competitive reasons we are evaluating this.  One barrier 
 for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation to 
 customer returning it.  With our current situation striking while the iron 
 is hot is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the agreement 
 to be returned.  It is also intimidating at 6 pages long.
 
 So...a couple questions
 
 -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)
 -What does your process look like
 -Do your installers get the paperwork signed
 -What advantages are there to a term agreement
 
 Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the Terms 
 of Service on our website.  When the new customer calls we can schedule them 
 right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer.  Anything you 
 see as a disadvantage with this?
 
 Any input is appreciated!
 -- 
 Jeremy J. Rodgers 
 Sales Manager 
 OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless
 O: 260.827.2234 
 O: 800.363.0989 
 F: 260.824.9624 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

2010-11-11 Thread Robert West
The TOS and whom owns what pretty much covers it all for me.  Contract
hidden inside!

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 12:42 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

 

Contracts are never for the client.

They are always to protect you - the seller.

 

Without a contract - if a business comes and states that you are responsible
for a loss of business - you might think twice. 

Verbal contracts are only as good as the paper they are written on. 

 

Just ask Judge Joe Brown ;-) 

 

Funny part is - Most business clients want a contract. 

Even for our hosting customers its the same. 

 

Go figure

 

 

On Nov 12, 2010, at 12:37 AM, Robert West wrote:





Been there.  Found that customers were increasingly aggravated with
contracts.  Turned it all upside down and now I only have them sign a combo
TOS and the equipment is ours and we can come and go to service it at will.
I give a spiel of how contracts are BS because if someone wants you to sign
a contract, they must know something that you don't  We're family and
you are now part of it.  If you don't like the service, call me..  yada,
yada, yada.  We all bond and it's all good.

 

Works for us and we become the rebels against the contract pushers.  (It's
all marketing)

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Rodgers
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:39 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Service contracts

 

For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year
term agreement.  For competitive reasons we are evaluating this.  One
barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation
to customer returning it.  With our current situation striking while the
iron is hot is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the
agreement to be returned.  It is also intimidating at 6 pages long.

So...a couple questions

-How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)
-What does your process look like
-Do your installers get the paperwork signed
-What advantages are there to a term agreement

Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the
Terms of Service on our website.  When the new customer calls we can
schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer.
Anything you see as a disadvantage with this?

Any input is appreciated!

-- 
Jeremy J. Rodgers 
Sales Manager 
OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless
O: 260.827.2234 
O: 800.363.0989 
F: 260.824.9624 

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[WISPA] Service in Vero Beach, FL.

2010-11-10 Thread Dylan Bouterse
Looking for service at 2600 45th Street, Vero Beach FL. At least
1.5-3mb.

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Re: [WISPA] Service in Vero Beach, FL.

2010-11-10 Thread Josh Luthman
That's got to be Paul.
On Nov 10, 2010 9:48 AM, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.com wrote:
 Looking for service at 2600 45th Street, Vero Beach FL. At least
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Re: [WISPA] Service in Vero Beach, FL.

2010-11-10 Thread Dylan Bouterse
I thought it might but I wanted to shoot it to the list just in case.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:53 AM
To: WISPA General List; Paul McCall
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in Vero Beach, FL.

 

That's got to be Paul.

On Nov 10, 2010 9:48 AM, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.com wrote:
 Looking for service at 2600 45th Street, Vero Beach FL. At least
 1.5-3mb.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Service in Vero Beach, FL.

2010-11-10 Thread RickG
http://www.pdmnet.com/

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.comwrote:

 Looking for service at 2600 45th Street, Vero Beach FL. At least
 1.5-3mb.

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[WISPA] Service in Columbus OH ?

2010-11-02 Thread Scott Carullo
Here:  Columbus Ohio, 43228

Hit me off list

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Re: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK

2010-10-13 Thread Andy Trimmell
Meaning we can walk out and cut it with a special tool in about 30
secs.thats what they mean...ya that's it.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
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Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK

  ROFL

On 10/12/2010 1:13 PM, Butch Evans wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 12:57 -0500, Blake Bowers wrote:
 Depending on where in Bristow, John at

 http://www.onalot.com/
 LOL.  From their FAQ:
 In addition to our Firewall protection, we use WEP encryption on all
 our radio links. WEP = Wired Equivalency Protocol, meaning it is
 considered to be as secure as a direct copper wire link. WEP
encryption
 is a coded algorithm that twists all data by a factor of 26 to the
 16th power to make it un-decipherable to anyone else. Many government
 agencies and other high security interests use this same encryption
 technique - it was developed to be especially secure.


 Ok..maybe it's just their web page that needs to be updated, or
perhaps
 they are really certain that WEP  is as secure as a direct copper
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[WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK

2010-10-12 Thread Chris Hudson
I have a friend's sister that lives outside the town of Bristow, OK. Does 
anyone know who might service up there?

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Re: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK

2010-10-12 Thread Blake Bowers
Depending on where in Bristow, John at

http://www.onalot.com/

may be able to help, I know there are a couple of spots where you
can see one of my towers from that area, and he is on that tower.


Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Hudson ch...@htswireless.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 11:54 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK


I have a friend's sister that lives outside the town of Bristow, OK. Does
 anyone know who might service up there?

 Thanks,
 Chris



 
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Re: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK

2010-10-12 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 12:57 -0500, Blake Bowers wrote: 
 Depending on where in Bristow, John at
 
 http://www.onalot.com/

LOL.  From their FAQ:
In addition to our Firewall protection, we use WEP encryption on all
our radio links. WEP = Wired Equivalency Protocol, meaning it is
considered to be as secure as a direct copper wire link. WEP encryption
is a coded algorithm that twists all data by a factor of 26 to the
16th power to make it un-decipherable to anyone else. Many government
agencies and other high security interests use this same encryption
technique - it was developed to be especially secure.


Ok..maybe it's just their web page that needs to be updated, or perhaps
they are really certain that WEP  is as secure as a direct copper
wire.  

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Re: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK

2010-10-12 Thread support
  ROFL

On 10/12/2010 1:13 PM, Butch Evans wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 12:57 -0500, Blake Bowers wrote:
 Depending on where in Bristow, John at

 http://www.onalot.com/
 LOL.  From their FAQ:
 In addition to our Firewall protection, we use WEP encryption on all
 our radio links. WEP = Wired Equivalency Protocol, meaning it is
 considered to be as secure as a direct copper wire link. WEP encryption
 is a coded algorithm that twists all data by a factor of 26 to the
 16th power to make it un-decipherable to anyone else. Many government
 agencies and other high security interests use this same encryption
 technique - it was developed to be especially secure.


 Ok..maybe it's just their web page that needs to be updated, or perhaps
 they are really certain that WEP  is as secure as a direct copper
 wire.



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Re: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK

2010-10-12 Thread Chris Hudson
She lives between Bristow and Kellyville on or near highway 66

Chris
- Original Message - 
From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK


 Depending on where in Bristow, John at

 http://www.onalot.com/

 may be able to help, I know there are a couple of spots where you
 can see one of my towers from that area, and he is on that tower.


 Don't take your organs to heaven,
 heaven knows we need them down here!
 Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Hudson ch...@htswireless.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 11:54 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK


I have a friend's sister that lives outside the town of Bristow, OK. Does
 anyone know who might service up there?

 Thanks,
 Chris



 
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Re: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK

2010-10-12 Thread Blake Bowers
Give John a call.  That is headed the direction of the tower.


Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Hudson ch...@htswireless.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK


 She lives between Bristow and Kellyville on or near highway 66

 Chris
 - Original Message - 
 From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 12:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK


 Depending on where in Bristow, John at

 http://www.onalot.com/

 may be able to help, I know there are a couple of spots where you
 can see one of my towers from that area, and he is on that tower.


 Don't take your organs to heaven,
 heaven knows we need them down here!
 Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Hudson ch...@htswireless.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 11:54 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK


I have a friend's sister that lives outside the town of Bristow, OK. Does
 anyone know who might service up there?

 Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK

2010-10-12 Thread Chris Hudson
Thanks, I've passed his site along to my friend.

Chris
- Original Message - 
From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK


 Give John a call.  That is headed the direction of the tower.


 Don't take your organs to heaven,
 heaven knows we need them down here!
 Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Hudson ch...@htswireless.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK


 She lives between Bristow and Kellyville on or near highway 66

 Chris
 - Original Message - 
 From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 12:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK


 Depending on where in Bristow, John at

 http://www.onalot.com/

 may be able to help, I know there are a couple of spots where you
 can see one of my towers from that area, and he is on that tower.


 Don't take your organs to heaven,
 heaven knows we need them down here!
 Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Hudson ch...@htswireless.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 11:54 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK


I have a friend's sister that lives outside the town of Bristow, OK. 
Does
 anyone know who might service up there?

 Thanks,
 Chris



 
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[WISPA] Service availability san Bruno

2010-10-08 Thread Jerry Richardson
1001 Bayhill Dr, San Bruno, CA 94066

If you can service this address with 20x20Mbps hit me off list.

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[WISPA] Service request

2010-09-02 Thread Aaron D. Osgood
Can anyone service this address?

 

2616 Five Notch Road

Troy, SC 29848

 

Please hit me off list

 

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[WISPA] Service in Central Texas

2010-09-01 Thread Alan Bryant
I have a customer who needs service in Liberty Hill, TX 78642. If
anyone provides service to the area, please hit me up offlist.

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[WISPA] Service in Belfair, WA?

2010-07-29 Thread Kevin Sullivan
Anyone cover that town?

Kevin


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Re: [WISPA] Service in Belfair, WA?

2010-07-29 Thread Forbes Mercy
Wow that's memories, I used to be the Fire Chief in Belfair in the 
early/mid-90's, but to answer your question no I don't..


Forbes

On 7/29/2010 10:04 AM, Kevin Sullivan wrote:

Anyone cover that town?
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[WISPA] Service in Uvalde TX?

2010-06-16 Thread Nick White
Anyone have wireless here?

Nick



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[WISPA] Service in Germany

2010-05-10 Thread Dan Ferguson
Hello,

I am trying to find any additional information on deployment in Germany. 
Aside from the frequency regulations from the EU are there any other 
regulations that need to be considered when deploying in Germany? I have 
been looking for a while and thought I should ask to see if anyone here 
has a link they could share.

Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] Service in Germany

2010-05-10 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
you must consider NATIONAL regulations, not generic European regulations

Regards


 Hello,
 
 I am trying to find any additional information on deployment in Germany. 
 Aside from the frequency regulations from the EU are there any other 
 regulations that need to be considered when deploying in Germany? I have 
 been looking for a while and thought I should ask to see if anyone here 
 has a link they could share.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

2010-04-11 Thread Chuck Hogg
That's the other problem, I wonder what amount of the 7,000 have a computer.

Regards,
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502-722-9292
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Stuart Pierce
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?


How many of the 7000 are going to want it and actually pay for it ? They don't 
get fined for not taking internet access do they ?

-- Original Message --
From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:54:39 -0400

I have not...and have not decided on if I will.  They have contacted me 
multiple times, requesting me to submit a proposal.

You have to bid to lease the network on a year to year basis.  You are 
responsible for all subscriber equipment.  You have to provide service to 
approximately 7,000 subscribers.  If you put out 7,000 Canopy SM's (Which is 
what they are pushing) that is $1.4M in subscriber gear.  You cannot charge a 
setup fee.  You have to offer internet service for $29.95/mth for 768kbps. At 
that price, it will take 10 months to recoup your installation and upfront 
equipment cost.  This does not take into consideration the backbone internet 
cost.  You may lose the contract before you can ever recoup the cost on a 
subscriber.

If you lose the yearly bid, you will have to go and reclaim the subscriber 
equipment.  The problem with this is, going to Hilbilly Bob's house to take 
his internet equipment away will be quite a hard task.

None of the water districts are going to give free access to their water 
towers.  You will have to negotiate access.  The commercial towers are all 
Crown, so plan on $500/mth in tower leasing.  

You have to do a beta test on your own dime in their area, providing internet 
service.  I don't know many commercial tower companies that will give you 
access for 60 days at a cheap rate, and who you will get a backbone connection 
from for 60 days.

You have to pay prevailing wage for all labor.

Once the network is in place, you are responsible for all and any 
upgrades/maintenance.  If you lose the bid at the end of the year, you have to 
go and reclaim your equipment.  If the company that installs the network uses 
equipment you don't like, that is not their problem it is yours.  If the 
network is hit by lightning, you are responsible for replacing the equipment.

You have to provide all of the upfront capital, and they will pay you back 
within 120 days.  Meaning, you have to put up the $550k for 120 days...before 
they will repay you.

I hate being a pessimist, but it is hard for me to be an optimist.  You have 
the potential of pulling in $210k per month on 7,000 subscribers.  You have to 
bid yearly on the contract to run the network.  It would suck if you put up 
the $1.4M to put in the equipment with the subscribers, to have the contract 
yanked from you the following year.  Good luck on getting those 7,000 
subscribers to be happy about you removing your equipment if you lose the 
contract (did I already mention that?)

If they would do it as a bid on a 5 or 10 year term then I would be interested.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --
http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 I know of two WISPs in the London area.  They are not on this list...but
 you can contact me offline and I will tell you.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


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 Behalf Of Steven G McGehee
 Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

 Hi all,

 I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London,

 KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months?
 Thanks.

 -Steven


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

2010-04-11 Thread RickG
Thats right. The biggest obstacle to broadband penetration in these
parts is that many dont want a computer AND of those that do, many
dont want internet. I realize we on this list are connectivity
advocates but that doesnt mean that others have the same view.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 That's the other problem, I wonder what amount of the 7,000 have a computer.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Stuart Pierce
 Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:56 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?


 How many of the 7000 are going to want it and actually pay for it ? They 
 don't get fined for not taking internet access do they ?

 -- Original Message --
 From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:54:39 -0400

I have not...and have not decided on if I will.  They have contacted me 
multiple times, requesting me to submit a proposal.

You have to bid to lease the network on a year to year basis.  You are 
responsible for all subscriber equipment.  You have to provide service to 
approximately 7,000 subscribers.  If you put out 7,000 Canopy SM's (Which is 
what they are pushing) that is $1.4M in subscriber gear.  You cannot charge a 
setup fee.  You have to offer internet service for $29.95/mth for 768kbps. At 
that price, it will take 10 months to recoup your installation and upfront 
equipment cost.  This does not take into consideration the backbone internet 
cost.  You may lose the contract before you can ever recoup the cost on a 
subscriber.

If you lose the yearly bid, you will have to go and reclaim the subscriber 
equipment.  The problem with this is, going to Hilbilly Bob's house to take 
his internet equipment away will be quite a hard task.

None of the water districts are going to give free access to their water 
towers.  You will have to negotiate access.  The commercial towers are all 
Crown, so plan on $500/mth in tower leasing.

You have to do a beta test on your own dime in their area, providing internet 
service.  I don't know many commercial tower companies that will give you 
access for 60 days at a cheap rate, and who you will get a backbone 
connection from for 60 days.

You have to pay prevailing wage for all labor.

Once the network is in place, you are responsible for all and any 
upgrades/maintenance.  If you lose the bid at the end of the year, you have 
to go and reclaim your equipment.  If the company that installs the network 
uses equipment you don't like, that is not their problem it is yours.  If the 
network is hit by lightning, you are responsible for replacing the equipment.

You have to provide all of the upfront capital, and they will pay you back 
within 120 days.  Meaning, you have to put up the $550k for 120 days...before 
they will repay you.

I hate being a pessimist, but it is hard for me to be an optimist.  You have 
the potential of pulling in $210k per month on 7,000 subscribers.  You have 
to bid yearly on the contract to run the network.  It would suck if you put 
up the $1.4M to put in the equipment with the subscribers, to have the 
contract yanked from you the following year.  Good luck on getting those 
7,000 subscribers to be happy about you removing your equipment if you lose 
the contract (did I already mention that?)

If they would do it as a bid on a 5 or 10 year term then I would be 
interested.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --
http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 I know of two WISPs in the London area.  They are not on this list...but
 you can contact me offline and I will tell you.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
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 Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM
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 Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

 Hi all,

 I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London,

 KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months?
 Thanks.

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[WISPA] Service in London, KY?

2010-04-10 Thread Steven G McGehee
Hi all,

I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, 
KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months?
Thanks.

-Steven



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Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

2010-04-10 Thread Chuck Hogg
I know of two WISPs in the London area.  They are not on this list...but
you can contact me offline and I will tell you.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

Hi all,

I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London,

KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months?
Thanks.

-Steven




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[WISPA] Service in Chapel Hill, NC?

2010-04-10 Thread Shaddi Hasan
Sorry to send another of these out, but does anyone know of any WISPs
serving the Chapel Hill, NC area? Off-list replies appreciated, thanks.

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Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

2010-04-10 Thread RickG
Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --
http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 I know of two WISPs in the London area.  They are not on this list...but
 you can contact me offline and I will tell you.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Steven G McGehee
 Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

 Hi all,

 I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London,

 KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months?
 Thanks.

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Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

2010-04-10 Thread Chuck Hogg
I have not...and have not decided on if I will.  They have contacted me 
multiple times, requesting me to submit a proposal.

You have to bid to lease the network on a year to year basis.  You are 
responsible for all subscriber equipment.  You have to provide service to 
approximately 7,000 subscribers.  If you put out 7,000 Canopy SM's (Which is 
what they are pushing) that is $1.4M in subscriber gear.  You cannot charge a 
setup fee.  You have to offer internet service for $29.95/mth for 768kbps. At 
that price, it will take 10 months to recoup your installation and upfront 
equipment cost.  This does not take into consideration the backbone internet 
cost.  You may lose the contract before you can ever recoup the cost on a 
subscriber.

If you lose the yearly bid, you will have to go and reclaim the subscriber 
equipment.  The problem with this is, going to Hilbilly Bob's house to take his 
internet equipment away will be quite a hard task.

None of the water districts are going to give free access to their water 
towers.  You will have to negotiate access.  The commercial towers are all 
Crown, so plan on $500/mth in tower leasing.  

You have to do a beta test on your own dime in their area, providing internet 
service.  I don't know many commercial tower companies that will give you 
access for 60 days at a cheap rate, and who you will get a backbone connection 
from for 60 days.

You have to pay prevailing wage for all labor.

Once the network is in place, you are responsible for all and any 
upgrades/maintenance.  If you lose the bid at the end of the year, you have to 
go and reclaim your equipment.  If the company that installs the network uses 
equipment you don't like, that is not their problem it is yours.  If the 
network is hit by lightning, you are responsible for replacing the equipment.

You have to provide all of the upfront capital, and they will pay you back 
within 120 days.  Meaning, you have to put up the $550k for 120 days...before 
they will repay you.

I hate being a pessimist, but it is hard for me to be an optimist.  You have 
the potential of pulling in $210k per month on 7,000 subscribers.  You have to 
bid yearly on the contract to run the network.  It would suck if you put up the 
$1.4M to put in the equipment with the subscribers, to have the contract yanked 
from you the following year.  Good luck on getting those 7,000 subscribers to 
be happy about you removing your equipment if you lose the contract (did I 
already mention that?)

If they would do it as a bid on a 5 or 10 year term then I would be interested.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --
http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 I know of two WISPs in the London area.  They are not on this list...but
 you can contact me offline and I will tell you.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Steven G McGehee
 Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

 Hi all,

 I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London,

 KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months?
 Thanks.

 -Steven


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

2010-04-10 Thread Chuck Hogg
Doh.  Looks like I am definitely not doing it.  The deadline was April 5th.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --
http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 I know of two WISPs in the London area.  They are not on this list...but
 you can contact me offline and I will tell you.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Steven G McGehee
 Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

 Hi all,

 I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London,

 KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months?
 Thanks.

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Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

2010-04-10 Thread RickG
My opinion as well! I just wondered who is brave enough. Also,
Hillbilly Bob lives up one of the many hollers. Besides the forest of
trees, the steep hills will prevent access to the many even with
900MHz.

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 I have not...and have not decided on if I will.  They have contacted me 
 multiple times, requesting me to submit a proposal.

 You have to bid to lease the network on a year to year basis.  You are 
 responsible for all subscriber equipment.  You have to provide service to 
 approximately 7,000 subscribers.  If you put out 7,000 Canopy SM's (Which is 
 what they are pushing) that is $1.4M in subscriber gear.  You cannot charge a 
 setup fee.  You have to offer internet service for $29.95/mth for 768kbps. At 
 that price, it will take 10 months to recoup your installation and upfront 
 equipment cost.  This does not take into consideration the backbone internet 
 cost.  You may lose the contract before you can ever recoup the cost on a 
 subscriber.

 If you lose the yearly bid, you will have to go and reclaim the subscriber 
 equipment.  The problem with this is, going to Hilbilly Bob's house to take 
 his internet equipment away will be quite a hard task.

 None of the water districts are going to give free access to their water 
 towers.  You will have to negotiate access.  The commercial towers are all 
 Crown, so plan on $500/mth in tower leasing.

 You have to do a beta test on your own dime in their area, providing internet 
 service.  I don't know many commercial tower companies that will give you 
 access for 60 days at a cheap rate, and who you will get a backbone 
 connection from for 60 days.

 You have to pay prevailing wage for all labor.

 Once the network is in place, you are responsible for all and any 
 upgrades/maintenance.  If you lose the bid at the end of the year, you have 
 to go and reclaim your equipment.  If the company that installs the network 
 uses equipment you don't like, that is not their problem it is yours.  If the 
 network is hit by lightning, you are responsible for replacing the equipment.

 You have to provide all of the upfront capital, and they will pay you back 
 within 120 days.  Meaning, you have to put up the $550k for 120 days...before 
 they will repay you.

 I hate being a pessimist, but it is hard for me to be an optimist.  You have 
 the potential of pulling in $210k per month on 7,000 subscribers.  You have 
 to bid yearly on the contract to run the network.  It would suck if you put 
 up the $1.4M to put in the equipment with the subscribers, to have the 
 contract yanked from you the following year.  Good luck on getting those 
 7,000 subscribers to be happy about you removing your equipment if you lose 
 the contract (did I already mention that?)

 If they would do it as a bid on a 5 or 10 year term then I would be 
 interested.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

 Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --
 http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/

 On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 I know of two WISPs in the London area.  They are not on this list...but
 you can contact me offline and I will tell you.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Steven G McGehee
 Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

 Hi all,

 I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London,

 KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months?
 Thanks.

 -Steven


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

2010-04-10 Thread RickG
LOL!  I saw that but dont lose any sleep over it. I dont know if your
very familiar with the territory but it's a true challenge. Remember,
one of my subs is a ConnectedNation Senior Manager and he told me
about this a long time ago. I've been over on that side of the ridge
many, many times in the 3+ years I've been here and the trees and
canyons are enough to send a wireless guy into a tizzy! 900MHz is not
that good.

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 Doh.  Looks like I am definitely not doing it.  The deadline was April 5th.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

 Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --
 http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/

 On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 I know of two WISPs in the London area.  They are not on this list...but
 you can contact me offline and I will tell you.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Steven G McGehee
 Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

 Hi all,

 I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London,

 KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months?
 Thanks.

 -Steven


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

2010-04-10 Thread Stuart Pierce

How many of the 7000 are going to want it and actually pay for it ? They don't 
get fined for not taking internet access do they ?

-- Original Message --
From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:54:39 -0400

I have not...and have not decided on if I will.  They have contacted me 
multiple times, requesting me to submit a proposal.

You have to bid to lease the network on a year to year basis.  You are 
responsible for all subscriber equipment.  You have to provide service to 
approximately 7,000 subscribers.  If you put out 7,000 Canopy SM's (Which is 
what they are pushing) that is $1.4M in subscriber gear.  You cannot charge a 
setup fee.  You have to offer internet service for $29.95/mth for 768kbps. At 
that price, it will take 10 months to recoup your installation and upfront 
equipment cost.  This does not take into consideration the backbone internet 
cost.  You may lose the contract before you can ever recoup the cost on a 
subscriber.

If you lose the yearly bid, you will have to go and reclaim the subscriber 
equipment.  The problem with this is, going to Hilbilly Bob's house to take 
his internet equipment away will be quite a hard task.

None of the water districts are going to give free access to their water 
towers.  You will have to negotiate access.  The commercial towers are all 
Crown, so plan on $500/mth in tower leasing.  

You have to do a beta test on your own dime in their area, providing internet 
service.  I don't know many commercial tower companies that will give you 
access for 60 days at a cheap rate, and who you will get a backbone connection 
from for 60 days.

You have to pay prevailing wage for all labor.

Once the network is in place, you are responsible for all and any 
upgrades/maintenance.  If you lose the bid at the end of the year, you have to 
go and reclaim your equipment.  If the company that installs the network uses 
equipment you don't like, that is not their problem it is yours.  If the 
network is hit by lightning, you are responsible for replacing the equipment.

You have to provide all of the upfront capital, and they will pay you back 
within 120 days.  Meaning, you have to put up the $550k for 120 days...before 
they will repay you.

I hate being a pessimist, but it is hard for me to be an optimist.  You have 
the potential of pulling in $210k per month on 7,000 subscribers.  You have to 
bid yearly on the contract to run the network.  It would suck if you put up 
the $1.4M to put in the equipment with the subscribers, to have the contract 
yanked from you the following year.  Good luck on getting those 7,000 
subscribers to be happy about you removing your equipment if you lose the 
contract (did I already mention that?)

If they would do it as a bid on a 5 or 10 year term then I would be interested.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --
http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 I know of two WISPs in the London area.  They are not on this list...but
 you can contact me offline and I will tell you.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Steven G McGehee
 Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?

 Hi all,

 I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London,

 KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months?
 Thanks.

 -Steven


 
 
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