Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
Thanks for clarifying that. I have read time and time again the devices would reboot (power cycle, not just reassociate!) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > But they didn't reboot. It was simply a disconnect reconnect. > > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Josh Luthman" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 9:55 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site? > > > > Tranzeo followed the RFC by rebooting with whatever frame it was sent, > > as I recall. > > > > On 12/24/08, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 > > wrote: > >> As it was explained to me, the problem was the exact opposite of what > >> you've > >> stated. Tranzeo did something that's NON standards based and MT finally > >> created a work around. > >> > >> Who knows... > >> Marlon > >> (509) 982-2181 > >> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > >> 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since > >> 1999! > >> o...@odessaoffice.com > >> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > >> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > >> > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "John Valenti" > >> To: "WISPA General List" > >> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:20 AM > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site? > >> > >> > >>> Marlon, > >>> > >>> I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by their > >>> update. (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug) Or is > >>> there some other problem? > >>> > >>> Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now. > >>> > >>> And Merry Christmas to you, too! > >>> > >>> > >>> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > >>> > >>>> Glad it's not just me! grin > >>>> > >>>> Nothing particular right now. I was just checking for any new > >>>> versions. > >>>> > >>>> Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem. > >>>> Not the > >>>> MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo. > >>>> > >>>> And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that > >>>> doesn't lock > >>>> up! > >>>> > >>>> Merry Christmas all! > >>>> marlon > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>> > > >>> > >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>> > >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>> > >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > > > > > > -- > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. > > --- Henry Spencer > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
But they didn't reboot. It was simply a disconnect reconnect. marlon - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site? > Tranzeo followed the RFC by rebooting with whatever frame it was sent, > as I recall. > > On 12/24/08, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 > wrote: >> As it was explained to me, the problem was the exact opposite of what >> you've >> stated. Tranzeo did something that's NON standards based and MT finally >> created a work around. >> >> Who knows... >> Marlon >> (509) 982-2181 >> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services >> 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since >> 1999! >> o...@odessaoffice.com >> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless >> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message - >> From: "John Valenti" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:20 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site? >> >> >>> Marlon, >>> >>> I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by their >>> update. (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug) Or is >>> there some other problem? >>> >>> Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now. >>> >>> And Merry Christmas to you, too! >>> >>> >>> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>> >>>> Glad it's not just me! grin >>>> >>>> Nothing particular right now. I was just checking for any new >>>> versions. >>>> >>>> Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem. >>>> Not the >>>> MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo. >>>> >>>> And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that >>>> doesn't lock >>>> up! >>>> >>>> Merry Christmas all! >>>> marlon >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > -- > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. > --- Henry Spencer > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
Should have. Standard states they need to accept that frame they took it on themselves to use it as a reboot signal. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Josh Luthman" Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:55:35 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site? Tranzeo followed the RFC by rebooting with whatever frame it was sent, as I recall. On 12/24/08, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > As it was explained to me, the problem was the exact opposite of what you've > stated. Tranzeo did something that's NON standards based and MT finally > created a work around. > > Who knows... > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! > o...@odessaoffice.com > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - > From: "John Valenti" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site? > > >> Marlon, >> >> I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by their >> update. (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug) Or is >> there some other problem? >> >> Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now. >> >> And Merry Christmas to you, too! >> >> >> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> >>> Glad it's not just me! grin >>> >>> Nothing particular right now. I was just checking for any new >>> versions. >>> >>> Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem. >>> Not the >>> MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo. >>> >>> And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that >>> doesn't lock >>> up! >>> >>> Merry Christmas all! >>> marlon >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
Tranzeo followed the RFC by rebooting with whatever frame it was sent, as I recall. On 12/24/08, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > As it was explained to me, the problem was the exact opposite of what you've > stated. Tranzeo did something that's NON standards based and MT finally > created a work around. > > Who knows... > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! > o...@odessaoffice.com > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - > From: "John Valenti" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site? > > >> Marlon, >> >> I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by their >> update. (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug) Or is >> there some other problem? >> >> Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now. >> >> And Merry Christmas to you, too! >> >> >> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> >>> Glad it's not just me! grin >>> >>> Nothing particular right now. I was just checking for any new >>> versions. >>> >>> Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem. >>> Not the >>> MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo. >>> >>> And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that >>> doesn't lock >>> up! >>> >>> Merry Christmas all! >>> marlon >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
As it was explained to me, the problem was the exact opposite of what you've stated. Tranzeo did something that's NON standards based and MT finally created a work around. Who knows... Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "John Valenti" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site? > Marlon, > > I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by their > update. (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug) Or is > there some other problem? > > Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now. > > And Merry Christmas to you, too! > > > On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > >> Glad it's not just me! grin >> >> Nothing particular right now. I was just checking for any new >> versions. >> >> Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem. >> Not the >> MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo. >> >> And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that >> doesn't lock >> up! >> >> Merry Christmas all! >> marlon > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
I pay around 300 for an AP (faster motherboard and a UBNT card is why) but 220 for a CPE. These are MT. On 12/22/08, Sam Tetherow wrote: > I would be willing to pay the extra for the AP (I've a pretty dense CPE > to AP ratio). The larger number of customers per AP would be worth it > for me. I have places that I could easily put 120 customer per AP and I > have 2 towers with more than 200 customer each on them spread across > Vert and Horizontal 2.4 and 5.8 sectors. Kind of hard to justify the > upgrade cost now although I'm having to rework some spots moving > customers to 5.2G because I've run out of usable spectrum. > > Sam Tetherow > Sandhills Wireless > > > > George Rogato wrote: >> I agree with you on computability, what good is a wifi network that >> doesn't talk to anything wifi? Doesn't sound too good to me. >> >> The $200.00 cpe isn't as much the attraction as the $200.00 or less AP. >> >> That's hard to swallow adding $1k + per ap. I have 100's of ap's. I put >> them everywhere. >> It's the only reason I don't go proprietary is the affordable ap. >> >> George >> >> Sam Tetherow wrote: >> >>> Obviously use whatever works best for your environment, but one of the >>> major reasons I have stayed in the 802.11 environment is BECAUSE I can >>> use differing vendors. I think that most 802.11 stuff loses it's appeal >>> when you cannot mix and match equipment. If I was looking to spend >>> $200+/cpe with a vendor lock in at this stage in the game I would go >>> with Moto. >>> >>> Sam Tetherow >>> Sandhills Wireless >>> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
I would be willing to pay the extra for the AP (I've a pretty dense CPE to AP ratio). The larger number of customers per AP would be worth it for me. I have places that I could easily put 120 customer per AP and I have 2 towers with more than 200 customer each on them spread across Vert and Horizontal 2.4 and 5.8 sectors. Kind of hard to justify the upgrade cost now although I'm having to rework some spots moving customers to 5.2G because I've run out of usable spectrum. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless George Rogato wrote: > I agree with you on computability, what good is a wifi network that > doesn't talk to anything wifi? Doesn't sound too good to me. > > The $200.00 cpe isn't as much the attraction as the $200.00 or less AP. > > That's hard to swallow adding $1k + per ap. I have 100's of ap's. I put > them everywhere. > It's the only reason I don't go proprietary is the affordable ap. > > George > > Sam Tetherow wrote: > >> Obviously use whatever works best for your environment, but one of the >> major reasons I have stayed in the 802.11 environment is BECAUSE I can >> use differing vendors. I think that most 802.11 stuff loses it's appeal >> when you cannot mix and match equipment. If I was looking to spend >> $200+/cpe with a vendor lock in at this stage in the game I would go >> with Moto. >> >> Sam Tetherow >> Sandhills Wireless >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
I agree with you on computability, what good is a wifi network that doesn't talk to anything wifi? Doesn't sound too good to me. The $200.00 cpe isn't as much the attraction as the $200.00 or less AP. That's hard to swallow adding $1k + per ap. I have 100's of ap's. I put them everywhere. It's the only reason I don't go proprietary is the affordable ap. George Sam Tetherow wrote: > Obviously use whatever works best for your environment, but one of the > major reasons I have stayed in the 802.11 environment is BECAUSE I can > use differing vendors. I think that most 802.11 stuff loses it's appeal > when you cannot mix and match equipment. If I was looking to spend > $200+/cpe with a vendor lock in at this stage in the game I would go > with Moto. > > Sam Tetherow > Sandhills Wireless WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
I've also been told that Moto does a great job with their wireless network gear (as we can all tell they've got their hands in every wireless market). I have yet to ever run it, though. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Sam Tetherow wrote: > Obviously use whatever works best for your environment, but one of the > major reasons I have stayed in the 802.11 environment is BECAUSE I can > use differing vendors. I think that most 802.11 stuff loses it's appeal > when you cannot mix and match equipment. If I was looking to spend > $200+/cpe with a vendor lock in at this stage in the game I would go > with Moto. > > Sam Tetherow > Sandhills Wireless > > George Rogato wrote: > > Steve Barnes wrote: > > > >> Other way around (from what was stated from MT) Tranzeo did not follow > >> all the 802.11 protocol to the letter. Mikrotik in 3.15 came up with a > >> work around. I have 3.16 on 4 towers so far and works great with > >> Tranzeo. One has 40 Clients and some of them have been up for 45 days > >> without a reboot. > >> > >> My wish is that there was a standard where the Device name in Tranzeo > >> units would show up as the radio name on MT AP's. Guess that is what > >> you get with different vendors. > >> > >> > >> > > > > Thats why I use the same product for my cpe as the ap. I'm star so it's > > star both ends and it is like pulling teeth to convince me to use > > something else no matter how much cheaper. > > > > If your MT you should seriously consider only MT for your cpe's. Then > > you know the compatability issue will be rare. > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
Obviously use whatever works best for your environment, but one of the major reasons I have stayed in the 802.11 environment is BECAUSE I can use differing vendors. I think that most 802.11 stuff loses it's appeal when you cannot mix and match equipment. If I was looking to spend $200+/cpe with a vendor lock in at this stage in the game I would go with Moto. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless George Rogato wrote: > Steve Barnes wrote: > >> Other way around (from what was stated from MT) Tranzeo did not follow >> all the 802.11 protocol to the letter. Mikrotik in 3.15 came up with a >> work around. I have 3.16 on 4 towers so far and works great with >> Tranzeo. One has 40 Clients and some of them have been up for 45 days >> without a reboot. >> >> My wish is that there was a standard where the Device name in Tranzeo >> units would show up as the radio name on MT AP's. Guess that is what >> you get with different vendors. >> >> >> > > Thats why I use the same product for my cpe as the ap. I'm star so it's > star both ends and it is like pulling teeth to convince me to use > something else no matter how much cheaper. > > If your MT you should seriously consider only MT for your cpe's. Then > you know the compatability issue will be rare. > > George > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
I know I could agree with no compatibility problems while using MT at both ends, however you still run into MT-only problems or limits. While this isn't directly WISP related, using RouterOD you are limited to one partition for everything. With Dude runnig there you (at this time) can't backup with a 128mb disk/storage device. I would expect 256MB to work, however I can't vouche. On 12/22/08, George Rogato wrote: > Steve Barnes wrote: >> Other way around (from what was stated from MT) Tranzeo did not follow >> all the 802.11 protocol to the letter. Mikrotik in 3.15 came up with a >> work around. I have 3.16 on 4 towers so far and works great with >> Tranzeo. One has 40 Clients and some of them have been up for 45 days >> without a reboot. >> >> My wish is that there was a standard where the Device name in Tranzeo >> units would show up as the radio name on MT AP's. Guess that is what >> you get with different vendors. >> >> > > Thats why I use the same product for my cpe as the ap. I'm star so it's > star both ends and it is like pulling teeth to convince me to use > something else no matter how much cheaper. > > If your MT you should seriously consider only MT for your cpe's. Then > you know the compatability issue will be rare. > > George > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
Steve Barnes wrote: > Other way around (from what was stated from MT) Tranzeo did not follow > all the 802.11 protocol to the letter. Mikrotik in 3.15 came up with a > work around. I have 3.16 on 4 towers so far and works great with > Tranzeo. One has 40 Clients and some of them have been up for 45 days > without a reboot. > > My wish is that there was a standard where the Device name in Tranzeo > units would show up as the radio name on MT AP's. Guess that is what > you get with different vendors. > > Thats why I use the same product for my cpe as the ap. I'm star so it's star both ends and it is like pulling teeth to convince me to use something else no matter how much cheaper. If your MT you should seriously consider only MT for your cpe's. Then you know the compatability issue will be rare. George WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
Last year the 56 Marietta building in Atlanta had hell with AC units, several times. Times are really tough and these outages sure don't help =( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Patrick Shoemaker < shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com> wrote: > Would that be the same one in NYC that had a "generator explosion"? Took > down Voicepulse. > > Patrick Shoemaker > Vector Data Systems LLC > shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com > office: (301) 358-1690 x36 > http://www.vectordatasystems.com > > > D. Ryan Spott wrote: > > According to some insider info the DC where the webserver is located > > (not at Tranzeo) had a power outage. > > > > ryan > > > > On Dec 22, 2008, at 11:20 AM, John Valenti wrote: > > > >> Marlon, > >> > >> I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by their > >> update. (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug) Or is > >> there some other problem? > >> > >> Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now. > >> > >> And Merry Christmas to you, too! > >> > >> > >> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > >> > >>> Glad it's not just me! grin > >>> > >>> Nothing particular right now. I was just checking for any new > >>> versions. > >>> > >>> Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem. > >>> Not the > >>> MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo. > >>> > >>> And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that > >>> doesn't lock > >>> up! > >>> > >>> Merry Christmas all! > >>> marlon > >> > >> > >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
Would that be the same one in NYC that had a "generator explosion"? Took down Voicepulse. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com D. Ryan Spott wrote: > According to some insider info the DC where the webserver is located > (not at Tranzeo) had a power outage. > > ryan > > On Dec 22, 2008, at 11:20 AM, John Valenti wrote: > >> Marlon, >> >> I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by their >> update. (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug) Or is >> there some other problem? >> >> Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now. >> >> And Merry Christmas to you, too! >> >> >> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> >>> Glad it's not just me! grin >>> >>> Nothing particular right now. I was just checking for any new >>> versions. >>> >>> Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem. >>> Not the >>> MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo. >>> >>> And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that >>> doesn't lock >>> up! >>> >>> Merry Christmas all! >>> marlon >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
That is what ups's and generators are for. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "D. Ryan Spott" Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:53:55 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site? According to some insider info the DC where the webserver is located (not at Tranzeo) had a power outage. ryan On Dec 22, 2008, at 11:20 AM, John Valenti wrote: > Marlon, > > I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by their > update. (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug) Or is > there some other problem? > > Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now. > > And Merry Christmas to you, too! > > > On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > >> Glad it's not just me! grin >> >> Nothing particular right now. I was just checking for any new >> versions. >> >> Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem. >> Not the >> MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo. >> >> And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that >> doesn't lock >> up! >> >> Merry Christmas all! >> marlon > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
According to some insider info the DC where the webserver is located (not at Tranzeo) had a power outage. ryan On Dec 22, 2008, at 11:20 AM, John Valenti wrote: > Marlon, > > I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by their > update. (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug) Or is > there some other problem? > > Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now. > > And Merry Christmas to you, too! > > > On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > >> Glad it's not just me! grin >> >> Nothing particular right now. I was just checking for any new >> versions. >> >> Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem. >> Not the >> MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo. >> >> And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that >> doesn't lock >> up! >> >> Merry Christmas all! >> marlon > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
Other way around (from what was stated from MT) Tranzeo did not follow all the 802.11 protocol to the letter. Mikrotik in 3.15 came up with a work around. I have 3.16 on 4 towers so far and works great with Tranzeo. One has 40 Clients and some of them have been up for 45 days without a reboot. My wish is that there was a standard where the Device name in Tranzeo units would show up as the radio name on MT AP's. Guess that is what you get with different vendors. support.tranzeo.com is back up now. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Valenti Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site? Marlon, I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by their update. (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug) Or is there some other problem? Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now. And Merry Christmas to you, too! On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > Glad it's not just me! grin > > Nothing particular right now. I was just checking for any new > versions. > > Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem. > Not the > MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo. > > And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that > doesn't lock > up! > > Merry Christmas all! > marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
Marlon, I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by their update. (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug) Or is there some other problem? Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now. And Merry Christmas to you, too! On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > Glad it's not just me! grin > > Nothing particular right now. I was just checking for any new > versions. > > Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem. > Not the > MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo. > > And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that > doesn't lock > up! > > Merry Christmas all! > marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
Wow. Their site is still down today!! At least for me it is. I'm glad I have very few Tranzeo left in the field. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 9:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site? I just want them to make a reset button! -RickG On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > Glad it's not just me! grin > > Nothing particular right now. I was just checking for any new versions. > > Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem. Not > the MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo. > > And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that doesn't > lock up! > > Merry Christmas all! > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "D. Ryan Spott" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 9:06 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site? > > >> What firmware do you need.. I might have a copy for you. >> >> ryan >> >> >> On Dec 21, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> >>> I can't seem to get there. www.tranzeo.com >>> >>> Says: >>> Most likely causes: >>> a.. The website is under maintenance. >>> b.. The website has a programming error. >>> Anyone else able to get there and find new firmware etc? >>> >>> It's been dead for me for 2 days now. >>> >>> laters, >>> marlon >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> - >> --- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> - >> --- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
I just want them to make a reset button! -RickG On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > Glad it's not just me! grin > > Nothing particular right now. I was just checking for any new versions. > > Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem. Not the > MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo. > > And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that doesn't lock > up! > > Merry Christmas all! > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "D. Ryan Spott" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 9:06 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site? > > >> What firmware do you need.. I might have a copy for you. >> >> ryan >> >> >> On Dec 21, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> >>> I can't seem to get there. www.tranzeo.com >>> >>> Says: >>> Most likely causes: >>> a.. The website is under maintenance. >>> b.. The website has a programming error. >>> Anyone else able to get there and find new firmware etc? >>> >>> It's been dead for me for 2 days now. >>> >>> laters, >>> marlon >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
Glad it's not just me! grin Nothing particular right now. I was just checking for any new versions. Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem. Not the MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo. And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that doesn't lock up! Merry Christmas all! marlon - Original Message - From: "D. Ryan Spott" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site? > What firmware do you need.. I might have a copy for you. > > ryan > > > On Dec 21, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > >> I can't seem to get there. www.tranzeo.com >> >> Says: >> Most likely causes: >> a.. The website is under maintenance. >> b.. The website has a programming error. >> Anyone else able to get there and find new firmware etc? >> >> It's been dead for me for 2 days now. >> >> laters, >> marlon >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
What firmware do you need.. I might have a copy for you. ryan On Dec 21, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > I can't seem to get there. www.tranzeo.com > > Says: > Most likely causes: > a.. The website is under maintenance. > b.. The website has a programming error. > Anyone else able to get there and find new firmware etc? > > It's been dead for me for 2 days now. > > laters, > marlon > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
Most likely cause: Could not connect to MySQL: Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111 Whoops! On Dec 21, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > I can't seem to get there. www.tranzeo.com > > Says: > Most likely causes: > a.. The website is under maintenance. > b.. The website has a programming error. > Anyone else able to get there and find new firmware etc? > > It's been dead for me for 2 days now. > > laters, > marlon > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
I can't seem to get there. www.tranzeo.com Says: Most likely causes: a.. The website is under maintenance. b.. The website has a programming error. Anyone else able to get there and find new firmware etc? It's been dead for me for 2 days now. laters, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
