Re: [WISPA] verizon pension

2005-12-07 Thread Peter R.

Actually, VZ is just hitting management:

Late Monday the company said it plans to freeze its guaranteed pension 
plan for 50,000 of its managers, a move that could save the 
telecommunications giant $3 billion during the next decade. The company 
said it would expand its own contributions to managers' 401(k) 
retirement savings plans and noted employees would retain benefits they 
have already earned, but not accrue any additional benefits.


MCI killed all pensions under BK. So working for VZ means 401k and lots 
of disgruntled employees who will blame loss of revenue NOT on bonehead 
Tele-Baron management policies but on competitors for eating their 
lunch. That means more DSL slamming; more delays in repairs and 
installs. CLECs and ISPs will feel the brunt, since the Tele-Barons have 
done an excellent job of manipulating the CWA leadership. (Anyone 
remember the commercial with the wife of the SBC employee who was going 
to lose his job over UNE-P???)


Regards,

Peter
RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
We Help ISPs Connect  Communicate
813.963.5884 
http://4isps.com


ISP Expo in Tampa, Dec. 9  10


Mac Dearman wrote:

Yeah - I read that somewhere the other day! It is due to all that 
6Mbps internet they sell for $15.00 hehehehehe


Did they think they could spend 40 million a year and only bring in 
22million and last forever?


Lassez les bons temps rouler!!!

( for the non Louisianians - let the good times roll)
/
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Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
www.inetsouth.com
www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts)
318-728-8600 - Rayville
318-728-9600
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Re: [WISPA] verizon pension

2005-12-07 Thread Frank Muto
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051206/bs_nm/telecoms_verizon_retirement_dc

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Verizon Communications (NYSE:VZ - news), the
second-biggest U.S. telecoms firm, said on Monday it was restructuring
retirement benefits for 50,000 managers in a bid to save $3 billion over the
next 10 years.

Under the plan -- for which Verizon will take an estimated fourth-quarter
pre-tax charge of $97 million -- managers will no longer earn pension
benefits or receive service credits toward healthcare benefits from next
July.

Employees currently covered by a defined-benefit plan -- which typically has
a fixed payout at retirement based on earnings and years of service -- will
keep pension benefits already earned, and on June 30 will receive an
18-month enhancement to the value of their pension and retiree medical
benefits.



Frank Muto
Co-founder -  Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA
Telecom Summit Ad Hoc Committee
http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us






- Original Message - 

 Actually, VZ is just hitting management:

 Late Monday the company said it plans to freeze its guaranteed pension
 plan for 50,000 of its managers, a move that could save the
 telecommunications giant $3 billion during the next decade. The company
 said it would expand its own contributions to managers' 401(k)
 retirement savings plans and noted employees would retain benefits they
 have already earned, but not accrue any additional benefits.

 MCI killed all pensions under BK. So working for VZ means 401k and lots
 of disgruntled employees who will blame loss of revenue NOT on bonehead
 Tele-Baron management policies but on competitors for eating their
 lunch. That means more DSL slamming; more delays in repairs and
 installs. CLECs and ISPs will feel the brunt, since the Tele-Barons have
 done an excellent job of manipulating the CWA leadership. (Anyone
 remember the commercial with the wife of the SBC employee who was going
 to lose his job over UNE-P???)

 Regards,

 Peter
 RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
 We Help ISPs Connect  Communicate
 813.963.5884
 http://4isps.com

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[WISPA] verizon pension

2005-12-06 Thread Rob's list



any one hear that verizon is no longer contributing 
to their employee pensions.
it is the beginning of the end

rob
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