subject:"RE\: \[WISPA\] Mikrotik MUM \- whose going\?"

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going?

2006-03-02 Thread Carl A Jeptha





ok, I'll think about it, but no slide shows.  :-\ 
You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Brian Webster wrote:

  
  
  It would be better if you could get him to do the
presentation with a beer in his hand after he worked all day in the hot
sun hanging radios in hurricane ravaged conditions. Then you'll get the
real skinny on what you should be doing:-) And I'll bet you hear
him say "and I'm gonna tell you somethin" at least once. Seriously his
discussion will be a good one on this, for those of us that went down
there it was a life altering experience. We all learned a lot and we
learned that there still is good in our fellow man.
   
  
  
Thank You,
  Brian Webster
   
   -Original Message-
  From: Carl A Jeptha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:41 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going?
  
  
  That explains
everything?  :-D 
You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Mac Dearman wrote:

  
  
  I forgot to mention that I will be giving
a 30 minute presentation on the Katrina relief efforts that 5th at
1:30  - - - - - you better bring your pillow :-)
   
   
  Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Authorized Barracuda Reseller
MikroTik RouterOS Certified
  www.inetsouth.com
  www.mac-tel.us
  www.RadioResponse.org
(Katrina Relief)
Rayville, La.
318.728.8600 
318.303.4227
318.303.4229
   
   
   
  
 
  
-
Original Message - 
From:
JohnnyO 
To:
WISPA
General List 
Sent:
Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:51 PM
    Subject:
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going?


oh jeez - there goes the neighborhood - Someone call ahead to the Texas
Rangers to let them know ! 

JohnnyO

On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 12:04 -0500, Carl A Jeptha wrote:

  If none of your other deserving Katrina assistants wants one I'll take one.

You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Mac Dearman wrote:
> Mikrotik is holding their first ever U.S. MUM (MikroTik Users 
> Meeting)  in Dallas, TX, May 4-5th, 2006. There will also be a 
> training class scheduled for the three days prior to MUM.
>
>  I have a few free passes due to Katrina work  - -  any takers?
>
>
> More info here:
> http://mum.mikrotik.com/
>
>
> Mac Dearman
> Maximum Access, LLC.
> Authorized Barracuda Reseller
> MikroTik RouterOS Certified
> www.inetsouth.com
> www.mac-tel.us
> www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
> Rayville, La.
> 318.728.8600
> 318.303.4227
> 318.303.4229
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services 
> --SomeObservations
>
>
>> Quote:  "> IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN "JUST" TECHNOLOGY... "
>>
>> yes, it is.   More to the point, it's about meeting your customer's 
>> needs or
>> wants.
>>
>> Not shoving things at them they don't need or want, but genuinely
>> discovering what it is that sparks them to buy in the first place.
>>
>> I desperately need a GOOD VOIP wholesale deal, where I own the 
>> customer and
>> do frontline support, it's my own brand (if I brand it) and I merely  
>> bulk
>> buy minutes, numbers, and CPE.I can't sell my customers a 400 minute
>> account that costs me 25 bucks a month.  They can buy Packet8 for 
>> less than
>> most resell deals.
>>
>> I'd rather just bundle a VOIP service in a higher level tier (let's move
>> from 38 / mo to 55 or 60/mo ) of service, but needs to be affordable 
>> for me
>> to do.   Still, nobody's offering this kind of service, that I can find.
>> Either it is sold as raw products (requiring me to build a whole VOIP 
>> system
>> for my customers use) or as higher than retail priced "wholesale" 
>> programs.
>>
>> What I really need, then, is someone who does more of the backend stuff
>> (including providing e911)  but does so in mass quantity, and doesn't
>> "touch" my customer.
>>
>> I've also found that pc

RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going?

2006-03-01 Thread Brian Webster




It would be 
better if you could get him to do the presentation with a beer in his hand after 
he worked all day in the hot sun hanging radios in hurricane ravaged conditions. 
Then you'll get the real skinny on what you should be doing:-) And I'll bet 
you hear him say "and I'm gonna tell you somethin" at least once. Seriously his 
discussion will be a good one on this, for those of us that went down there it 
was a life altering experience. We all learned a lot and we learned that there 
still is good in our fellow man.
 
Thank You,
Brian Webster

 
 -Original Message-From: 
Carl A Jeptha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 
2006 9:41 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] 
Mikrotik MUM - whose going?
That explains 
  everything?  :-D 
  You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha
Mac Dearman wrote: 
  



I forgot to mention that I will be giving a 30 minute 
presentation on the Katrina relief efforts that 5th at 1:30  - - - - - 
you better bring your pillow :-)
 
 
Mac DearmanMaximum Access, LLC.Authorized Barracuda 
ResellerMikroTik RouterOS Certifiedwww.inetsouth.comwww.mac-tel.uswww.RadioResponse.org (Katrina 
Relief)Rayville, La.318.728.8600 
318.303.4227318.303.4229
 
 
 
 

  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  JohnnyO 
  To: 
  WISPA General 
  List 
  Sent: 
  Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:51 PM
  Subject: 
      Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going?
  oh jeez - there goes the neighborhood - Someone call ahead 
  to the Texas Rangers to let them know ! JohnnyOOn Wed, 
  2006-03-01 at 12:04 -0500, Carl A Jeptha wrote: 
  If none of your other deserving Katrina assistants wants one I'll take one.

You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Mac Dearman wrote:
> Mikrotik is holding their first ever U.S. MUM (MikroTik Users 
> Meeting)  in Dallas, TX, May 4-5th, 2006. There will also be a 
> training class scheduled for the three days prior to MUM.
>
>  I have a few free passes due to Katrina work  - -  any takers?
>
>
> More info here:
> http://mum.mikrotik.com/
>
>
> Mac Dearman
> Maximum Access, LLC.
> Authorized Barracuda Reseller
> MikroTik RouterOS Certified
> www.inetsouth.com
> www.mac-tel.us
> www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
> Rayville, La.
> 318.728.8600
> 318.303.4227
> 318.303.4229
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services 
> --SomeObservations
>
>
>> Quote:  "> IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN "JUST" TECHNOLOGY... "
>>
>> yes, it is.   More to the point, it's about meeting your customer's 
>> needs or
>> wants.
>>
>> Not shoving things at them they don't need or want, but genuinely
>> discovering what it is that sparks them to buy in the first place.
>>
>> I desperately need a GOOD VOIP wholesale deal, where I own the 
>> customer and
>> do frontline support, it's my own brand (if I brand it) and I merely  
>> bulk
>> buy minutes, numbers, and CPE.I can't sell my customers a 400 minute
>> account that costs me 25 bucks a month.  They can buy Packet8 for 
>> less than
>> most resell deals.
>>
>> I'd rather just bundle a VOIP service in a higher level tier (let's move
>> from 38 / mo to 55 or 60/mo ) of service, but needs to be affordable 
>> for me
>> to do.   Still, nobody's offering this kind of service, that I can find.
>> Either it is sold as raw products (requiring me to build a whole VOIP 
>> system
>> for my customers use) or as higher than retail priced "wholesale" 
>> programs.
>>
>> What I really need, then, is someone who does more of the backend stuff
>> (including providing e911)  but does so in mass quantity, and doesn't
>> "touch" my customer.
>>
>> I've also found that pc service can be a good side venture, but I'm not
>> convinced that we can actually compete on price with the computer 
>> store. If
>> we're busy, it's better value for our time to install and support our 
>> own
>> services.
>>
>> Just random thoughts on the topic...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> North East Oregon Fastnet

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going?

2006-03-01 Thread Carl A Jeptha





That explains everything? 
:-D 
You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Mac Dearman wrote:

  
  
  
  I forgot to mention that I will be giving a
30 minute presentation on the Katrina relief efforts that 5th at 1:30 
- - - - - you better bring your pillow :-)
   
   
  Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Authorized Barracuda Reseller
MikroTik RouterOS Certified
  www.inetsouth.com
  www.mac-tel.us
  www.RadioResponse.org
(Katrina Relief)
Rayville, La.
318.728.8600 
318.303.4227
318.303.4229
   
   
   
  
 
  
-
Original Message - 
From:
JohnnyO 
To:
WISPA
General List 
Sent:
Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:51 PM
Subject:
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going?


oh jeez - there goes the neighborhood - Someone call ahead to the Texas
Rangers to let them know ! 

JohnnyO

On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 12:04 -0500, Carl A Jeptha wrote:

  If none of your other deserving Katrina assistants wants one I'll take one.

You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Mac Dearman wrote:
> Mikrotik is holding their first ever U.S. MUM (MikroTik Users 
> Meeting)  in Dallas, TX, May 4-5th, 2006. There will also be a 
> training class scheduled for the three days prior to MUM.
>
>  I have a few free passes due to Katrina work  - -  any takers?
>
>
> More info here:
> http://mum.mikrotik.com/
>
>
> Mac Dearman
> Maximum Access, LLC.
> Authorized Barracuda Reseller
> MikroTik RouterOS Certified
> www.inetsouth.com
> www.mac-tel.us
> www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
> Rayville, La.
> 318.728.8600
> 318.303.4227
> 318.303.4229
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services 
> --SomeObservations
>
>
>> Quote:  "> IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN "JUST" TECHNOLOGY... "
>>
>> yes, it is.   More to the point, it's about meeting your customer's 
>> needs or
>> wants.
>>
>> Not shoving things at them they don't need or want, but genuinely
>> discovering what it is that sparks them to buy in the first place.
>>
>> I desperately need a GOOD VOIP wholesale deal, where I own the 
>> customer and
>> do frontline support, it's my own brand (if I brand it) and I merely  
>> bulk
>> buy minutes, numbers, and CPE.I can't sell my customers a 400 minute
>> account that costs me 25 bucks a month.  They can buy Packet8 for 
>> less than
>> most resell deals.
>>
>> I'd rather just bundle a VOIP service in a higher level tier (let's move
>> from 38 / mo to 55 or 60/mo ) of service, but needs to be affordable 
>> for me
>> to do.   Still, nobody's offering this kind of service, that I can find.
>> Either it is sold as raw products (requiring me to build a whole VOIP 
>> system
>> for my customers use) or as higher than retail priced "wholesale" 
>> programs.
>>
>> What I really need, then, is someone who does more of the backend stuff
>> (including providing e911)  but does so in mass quantity, and doesn't
>> "touch" my customer.
>>
>> I've also found that pc service can be a good side venture, but I'm not
>> convinced that we can actually compete on price with the computer 
>> store. If
>> we're busy, it's better value for our time to install and support our 
>> own
>> services.
>>
>> Just random thoughts on the topic...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
>> personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
>> sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
>> Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
>>  
>>
>> -
>> - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com>
>> Cc: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:45 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services -- 
>> SomeObservations
>>
>>
>>> Generally, we end up debating all day and all night on the lists of
>> "what's
>>> the best radio" or "who's go

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going?

2006-03-01 Thread Carl A Jeptha





why? are you coming 
:-) 
You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



JohnnyO wrote:

  
  
oh jeez - there goes the neighborhood - Someone call ahead to the Texas
Rangers to let them know ! 
  
JohnnyO
  
On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 12:04 -0500, Carl A Jeptha wrote:
  
If none of your other deserving Katrina assistants wants one I'll take one.

You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Mac Dearman wrote:
> Mikrotik is holding their first ever U.S. MUM (MikroTik Users 
> Meeting)  in Dallas, TX, May 4-5th, 2006. There will also be a 
> training class scheduled for the three days prior to MUM.
>
>  I have a few free passes due to Katrina work  - -  any takers?
>
>
> More info here:
> http://mum.mikrotik.com/
>
>
> Mac Dearman
> Maximum Access, LLC.
> Authorized Barracuda Reseller
> MikroTik RouterOS Certified
> www.inetsouth.com
> www.mac-tel.us
> www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
> Rayville, La.
> 318.728.8600
> 318.303.4227
> 318.303.4229
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services 
> --SomeObservations
>
>
>> Quote:  "> IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN "JUST" TECHNOLOGY... "
>>
>> yes, it is.   More to the point, it's about meeting your customer's 
>> needs or
>> wants.
>>
>> Not shoving things at them they don't need or want, but genuinely
>> discovering what it is that sparks them to buy in the first place.
>>
>> I desperately need a GOOD VOIP wholesale deal, where I own the 
>> customer and
>> do frontline support, it's my own brand (if I brand it) and I merely  
>> bulk
>> buy minutes, numbers, and CPE.I can't sell my customers a 400 minute
>> account that costs me 25 bucks a month.  They can buy Packet8 for 
>> less than
>> most resell deals.
>>
>> I'd rather just bundle a VOIP service in a higher level tier (let's move
>> from 38 / mo to 55 or 60/mo ) of service, but needs to be affordable 
>> for me
>> to do.   Still, nobody's offering this kind of service, that I can find.
>> Either it is sold as raw products (requiring me to build a whole VOIP 
>> system
>> for my customers use) or as higher than retail priced "wholesale" 
>> programs.
>>
>> What I really need, then, is someone who does more of the backend stuff
>> (including providing e911)  but does so in mass quantity, and doesn't
>> "touch" my customer.
>>
>> I've also found that pc service can be a good side venture, but I'm not
>> convinced that we can actually compete on price with the computer 
>> store. If
>> we're busy, it's better value for our time to install and support our 
>> own
>> services.
>>
>> Just random thoughts on the topic...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
>> personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
>> sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
>> Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
>>  
>>
>> -
>> - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Cc: "'WISPA General List'" 
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:45 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services -- 
>> SomeObservations
>>
>>
>>> Generally, we end up debating all day and all night on the lists of
>> "what's
>>> the best radio" or "who's got those cool blue lights" -- however, FWIW,
>> I've
>>> noticed that there seldom is any debate on "useful" topics like sales &
>>> marketing (especially of the product positioning of license-exempt
>> wireless)
>>>
>>> Do we call it wDSL? Wireless? More than Wifi? WiMAX? -- who knows? But
>> fuel
>>> the fire with a few observations
>>>
>>> -
>>> 
>>> -
>>>
>>> ARPU is an acronym for the Average Revenue per User.  This is the 
>>> average
>>> revenue factored across all customers as if each were charged the same
>> price
>>> -- with some customers charged less and others more.  Customer type
>> usually
>>> determines price.  In addition, a Network Operator's valuation is a 
>>> direct
>>> multiple of its ARPU.
>>>
>>> The Marginal Recurring Cost (MRC) as compared to its Service Level /
>>> Marginal Recurring Revenue (MRR) of delivering the following
>> license-exempt
>>> broadband wireless "WiMAX" connections have been calculated as follows:
>>>
>>> Broadband "Lite" Residential Service
>>> (512 / 512 Kb Burstable)
>>> MRR: $24.95
>>> MRC: $20
>>>
>>> Best Effort Residential Service
>>> (5 Mb / 512 Kb Burstable)
>>> MRR: $39.95
>>> MRC: $20
>>>
>>> Best Effort Business Class Service
>>> (5 Mb / 1 Mb Burstable)
>>> MRR: $149.9

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going?

2006-03-01 Thread Mac Dearman




I forgot to mention that I will be giving a 30 minute 
presentation on the Katrina relief efforts that 5th at 1:30  - - - - - you 
better bring your pillow :-)
 
 
Mac DearmanMaximum Access, LLC.Authorized Barracuda 
ResellerMikroTik RouterOS Certifiedwww.inetsouth.comwww.mac-tel.uswww.RadioResponse.org (Katrina 
Relief)Rayville, La.318.728.8600 318.303.4227318.303.4229
 
 
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  JohnnyO 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:51 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose 
  going?
  oh jeez - there goes the neighborhood - Someone call ahead to 
  the Texas Rangers to let them know ! JohnnyOOn Wed, 2006-03-01 
  at 12:04 -0500, Carl A Jeptha wrote: 
  If none of your other deserving Katrina assistants wants one I'll take one.

You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Mac Dearman wrote:
> Mikrotik is holding their first ever U.S. MUM (MikroTik Users 
> Meeting)  in Dallas, TX, May 4-5th, 2006. There will also be a 
> training class scheduled for the three days prior to MUM.
>
>  I have a few free passes due to Katrina work  - -  any takers?
>
>
> More info here:
> http://mum.mikrotik.com/
>
>
> Mac Dearman
> Maximum Access, LLC.
> Authorized Barracuda Reseller
> MikroTik RouterOS Certified
> www.inetsouth.com
> www.mac-tel.us
> www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
> Rayville, La.
> 318.728.8600
> 318.303.4227
> 318.303.4229
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services 
> --SomeObservations
>
>
>> Quote:  "> IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN "JUST" TECHNOLOGY... "
>>
>> yes, it is.   More to the point, it's about meeting your customer's 
>> needs or
>> wants.
>>
>> Not shoving things at them they don't need or want, but genuinely
>> discovering what it is that sparks them to buy in the first place.
>>
>> I desperately need a GOOD VOIP wholesale deal, where I own the 
>> customer and
>> do frontline support, it's my own brand (if I brand it) and I merely  
>> bulk
>> buy minutes, numbers, and CPE.I can't sell my customers a 400 minute
>> account that costs me 25 bucks a month.  They can buy Packet8 for 
>> less than
>> most resell deals.
>>
>> I'd rather just bundle a VOIP service in a higher level tier (let's move
>> from 38 / mo to 55 or 60/mo ) of service, but needs to be affordable 
>> for me
>> to do.   Still, nobody's offering this kind of service, that I can find.
>> Either it is sold as raw products (requiring me to build a whole VOIP 
>> system
>> for my customers use) or as higher than retail priced "wholesale" 
>> programs.
>>
>> What I really need, then, is someone who does more of the backend stuff
>> (including providing e911)  but does so in mass quantity, and doesn't
>> "touch" my customer.
>>
>> I've also found that pc service can be a good side venture, but I'm not
>> convinced that we can actually compete on price with the computer 
>> store. If
>> we're busy, it's better value for our time to install and support our 
>> own
>> services.
>>
>> Just random thoughts on the topic...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
>> personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
>> sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
>> Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
>>  
>>
>> -
>> - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com>
>> Cc: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:45 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services -- 
>> SomeObservations
>>
>>
>>> Generally, we end up debating all day and all night on the lists of
>> "what's
>>> the best radio" or "who's got those cool blue lights" -- however, FWIW,
>> I've
>>> noticed that there seldom is any debate on "useful" topics like sales &
>>> marketing (especially of the product positioning of license-exempt
>>

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going?

2006-03-01 Thread JohnnyO





oh jeez - there goes the neighborhood - Someone call ahead to the Texas Rangers to let them know ! 

JohnnyO

On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 12:04 -0500, Carl A Jeptha wrote:


If none of your other deserving Katrina assistants wants one I'll take one.

You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Mac Dearman wrote:
> Mikrotik is holding their first ever U.S. MUM (MikroTik Users 
> Meeting)  in Dallas, TX, May 4-5th, 2006. There will also be a 
> training class scheduled for the three days prior to MUM.
>
>  I have a few free passes due to Katrina work  - -  any takers?
>
>
> More info here:
> http://mum.mikrotik.com/
>
>
> Mac Dearman
> Maximum Access, LLC.
> Authorized Barracuda Reseller
> MikroTik RouterOS Certified
> www.inetsouth.com
> www.mac-tel.us
> www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
> Rayville, La.
> 318.728.8600
> 318.303.4227
> 318.303.4229
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services 
> --SomeObservations
>
>
>> Quote:  "> IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN "JUST" TECHNOLOGY... "
>>
>> yes, it is.   More to the point, it's about meeting your customer's 
>> needs or
>> wants.
>>
>> Not shoving things at them they don't need or want, but genuinely
>> discovering what it is that sparks them to buy in the first place.
>>
>> I desperately need a GOOD VOIP wholesale deal, where I own the 
>> customer and
>> do frontline support, it's my own brand (if I brand it) and I merely  
>> bulk
>> buy minutes, numbers, and CPE.I can't sell my customers a 400 minute
>> account that costs me 25 bucks a month.  They can buy Packet8 for 
>> less than
>> most resell deals.
>>
>> I'd rather just bundle a VOIP service in a higher level tier (let's move
>> from 38 / mo to 55 or 60/mo ) of service, but needs to be affordable 
>> for me
>> to do.   Still, nobody's offering this kind of service, that I can find.
>> Either it is sold as raw products (requiring me to build a whole VOIP 
>> system
>> for my customers use) or as higher than retail priced "wholesale" 
>> programs.
>>
>> What I really need, then, is someone who does more of the backend stuff
>> (including providing e911)  but does so in mass quantity, and doesn't
>> "touch" my customer.
>>
>> I've also found that pc service can be a good side venture, but I'm not
>> convinced that we can actually compete on price with the computer 
>> store. If
>> we're busy, it's better value for our time to install and support our 
>> own
>> services.
>>
>> Just random thoughts on the topic...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
>> personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
>> sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
>> Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
>>  
>>
>> -
>> - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Cc: "'WISPA General List'" 
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:45 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services -- 
>> SomeObservations
>>
>>
>>> Generally, we end up debating all day and all night on the lists of
>> "what's
>>> the best radio" or "who's got those cool blue lights" -- however, FWIW,
>> I've
>>> noticed that there seldom is any debate on "useful" topics like sales &
>>> marketing (especially of the product positioning of license-exempt
>> wireless)
>>>
>>> Do we call it wDSL? Wireless? More than Wifi? WiMAX? -- who knows? But
>> fuel
>>> the fire with a few observations
>>>
>>> -
>>> 
>>> -
>>>
>>> ARPU is an acronym for the Average Revenue per User.  This is the 
>>> average
>>> revenue factored across all customers as if each were charged the same
>> price
>>> -- with some customers charged less and others more.  Customer type
>> usually
>>> determines price.  In addition, a Network Operator's valuation is a 
>>> direct
>>> multiple of its ARPU.
>>>
>>> The Marginal Recurring Cost (MRC) as compared to its Service Level /
>>> Marginal Recurring Revenue (MRR) of delivering the following
>> license-exempt
>>> broadband wireless "WiMAX" connections have been calculated as follows:
>>>
>>> Broadband "Lite" Residential Service
>>> (512 / 512 Kb Burstable)
>>> MRR: $24.95
>>> MRC: $20
>>>
>>> Best Effort Residential Service
>>> (5 Mb / 512 Kb Burstable)
>>> MRR: $39.95
>>> MRC: $20
>>>
>>> Best Effort Business Class Service
>>> (5 Mb / 1 Mb Burstable)
>>> MRR: $149.95
>>> MRC: $25
>>>
>>> Dedicated Business Class Service
>>> (5 Mb / 3 Mb Burstable)
>>> (1 Mb / 1 Mb Dedicated)
>>> MRR: $249.95
>>> MRC: $30
>>>
>>> Dedicated Business SLA Service
>>> (5 Mb / 3 Mb Burstable)
>>

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going?

2006-03-01 Thread Carl A Jeptha


If none of your other deserving Katrina assistants wants one I'll take one.

You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Mac Dearman wrote:
Mikrotik is holding their first ever U.S. MUM (MikroTik Users 
Meeting)  in Dallas, TX, May 4-5th, 2006. There will also be a 
training class scheduled for the three days prior to MUM.


 I have a few free passes due to Katrina work  - -  any takers?


More info here:
http://mum.mikrotik.com/


Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Authorized Barracuda Reseller
MikroTik RouterOS Certified
www.inetsouth.com
www.mac-tel.us
www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
Rayville, La.
318.728.8600
318.303.4227
318.303.4229





- Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services 
--SomeObservations




Quote:  "> IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN "JUST" TECHNOLOGY... "

yes, it is.   More to the point, it's about meeting your customer's 
needs or

wants.

Not shoving things at them they don't need or want, but genuinely
discovering what it is that sparks them to buy in the first place.

I desperately need a GOOD VOIP wholesale deal, where I own the 
customer and
do frontline support, it's my own brand (if I brand it) and I merely  
bulk

buy minutes, numbers, and CPE.I can't sell my customers a 400 minute
account that costs me 25 bucks a month.  They can buy Packet8 for 
less than

most resell deals.

I'd rather just bundle a VOIP service in a higher level tier (let's move
from 38 / mo to 55 or 60/mo ) of service, but needs to be affordable 
for me

to do.   Still, nobody's offering this kind of service, that I can find.
Either it is sold as raw products (requiring me to build a whole VOIP 
system
for my customers use) or as higher than retail priced "wholesale" 
programs.


What I really need, then, is someone who does more of the backend stuff
(including providing e911)  but does so in mass quantity, and doesn't
"touch" my customer.

I've also found that pc service can be a good side venture, but I'm not
convinced that we can actually compete on price with the computer 
store. If
we're busy, it's better value for our time to install and support our 
own

services.

Just random thoughts on the topic...




North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
 


-
- Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Cc: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:45 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services -- 
SomeObservations




Generally, we end up debating all day and all night on the lists of

"what's

the best radio" or "who's got those cool blue lights" -- however, FWIW,

I've

noticed that there seldom is any debate on "useful" topics like sales &
marketing (especially of the product positioning of license-exempt

wireless)


Do we call it wDSL? Wireless? More than Wifi? WiMAX? -- who knows? But

fuel

the fire with a few observations

-

-

ARPU is an acronym for the Average Revenue per User.  This is the 
average

revenue factored across all customers as if each were charged the same

price

-- with some customers charged less and others more.  Customer type

usually
determines price.  In addition, a Network Operator's valuation is a 
direct

multiple of its ARPU.

The Marginal Recurring Cost (MRC) as compared to its Service Level /
Marginal Recurring Revenue (MRR) of delivering the following

license-exempt

broadband wireless "WiMAX" connections have been calculated as follows:

Broadband "Lite" Residential Service
(512 / 512 Kb Burstable)
MRR: $24.95
MRC: $20

Best Effort Residential Service
(5 Mb / 512 Kb Burstable)
MRR: $39.95
MRC: $20

Best Effort Business Class Service
(5 Mb / 1 Mb Burstable)
MRR: $149.95
MRC: $25

Dedicated Business Class Service
(5 Mb / 3 Mb Burstable)
(1 Mb / 1 Mb Dedicated)
MRR: $249.95
MRC: $30

Dedicated Business SLA Service
(5 Mb / 3 Mb Burstable)
(3 Mb / 3 Mb Dedicated)
MRR: $449.95
MRC: $40

Looking at the numbers, it's obvious that a higher ARPU increases the
overall health of the bottom line.

Interestingly enough, all the following service plans are achieved 
using

the
EXACT SAME license-exempt broadband wireless access technology.  So 
why is

the differentiating factor that allows some WISPs to sell that
Canopy/Trango/Alvarion/whatever last mile connection for $300+ month 
ARPU

while other can barely get $30 / month ARPU?

IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN "JUST" TECHNOLOGY...

-

-

-Charl

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going?

2006-03-01 Thread Mac Dearman

Mikrotik is holding their first ever U.S. MUM (MikroTik Users Meeting)  in 
Dallas, TX, May 4-5th, 2006. There will also be a training class scheduled 
for the three days prior to MUM.


 I have a few free passes due to Katrina work  - -  any takers?


More info here:
http://mum.mikrotik.com/


Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Authorized Barracuda Reseller
MikroTik RouterOS Certified
www.inetsouth.com
www.mac-tel.us
www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
Rayville, La.
318.728.8600
318.303.4227
318.303.4229





- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless 
Services --SomeObservations




Quote:  "> IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN "JUST" TECHNOLOGY... "

yes, it is.   More to the point, it's about meeting your customer's needs 
or

wants.

Not shoving things at them they don't need or want, but genuinely
discovering what it is that sparks them to buy in the first place.

I desperately need a GOOD VOIP wholesale deal, where I own the customer 
and

do frontline support, it's my own brand (if I brand it) and I merely  bulk
buy minutes, numbers, and CPE.I can't sell my customers a 400 minute
account that costs me 25 bucks a month.  They can buy Packet8 for less 
than

most resell deals.

I'd rather just bundle a VOIP service in a higher level tier (let's move
from 38 / mo to 55 or 60/mo ) of service, but needs to be affordable for 
me

to do.   Still, nobody's offering this kind of service, that I can find.
Either it is sold as raw products (requiring me to build a whole VOIP 
system
for my customers use) or as higher than retail priced "wholesale" 
programs.


What I really need, then, is someone who does more of the backend stuff
(including providing e911)  but does so in mass quantity, and doesn't
"touch" my customer.

I've also found that pc service can be a good side venture, but I'm not
convinced that we can actually compete on price with the computer store. 
If

we're busy, it's better value for our time to install and support our own
services.

Just random thoughts on the topic...




North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIRES!

-
- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Cc: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:45 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services -- 
SomeObservations




Generally, we end up debating all day and all night on the lists of

"what's

the best radio" or "who's got those cool blue lights" -- however, FWIW,

I've

noticed that there seldom is any debate on "useful" topics like sales &
marketing (especially of the product positioning of license-exempt

wireless)


Do we call it wDSL? Wireless? More than Wifi? WiMAX? -- who knows? But

fuel

the fire with a few observations

-

-

ARPU is an acronym for the Average Revenue per User.  This is the average
revenue factored across all customers as if each were charged the same

price

-- with some customers charged less and others more.  Customer type

usually
determines price.  In addition, a Network Operator's valuation is a 
direct

multiple of its ARPU.

The Marginal Recurring Cost (MRC) as compared to its Service Level /
Marginal Recurring Revenue (MRR) of delivering the following

license-exempt

broadband wireless "WiMAX" connections have been calculated as follows:

Broadband "Lite" Residential Service
(512 / 512 Kb Burstable)
MRR: $24.95
MRC: $20

Best Effort Residential Service
(5 Mb / 512 Kb Burstable)
MRR: $39.95
MRC: $20

Best Effort Business Class Service
(5 Mb / 1 Mb Burstable)
MRR: $149.95
MRC: $25

Dedicated Business Class Service
(5 Mb / 3 Mb Burstable)
(1 Mb / 1 Mb Dedicated)
MRR: $249.95
MRC: $30

Dedicated Business SLA Service
(5 Mb / 3 Mb Burstable)
(3 Mb / 3 Mb Dedicated)
MRR: $449.95
MRC: $40

Looking at the numbers, it's obvious that a higher ARPU increases the
overall health of the bottom line.

Interestingly enough, all the following service plans are achieved using

the
EXACT SAME license-exempt broadband wireless access technology.  So why 
is

the differentiating factor that allows some WISPs to sell that
Canopy/Trango/Alvarion/whatever last mile connection for $300+ month ARPU
while other can barely get $30 / month ARPU?

IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN "JUST" TECHNOLOGY...

-

-

-Charles

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