Re: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!!
We had 60mph sustained winds here. In town. We had one cpe radio blow down. Took the TV antenna and half the chimney with it. They now have a nice tripod bolted to the roof :-). Got another one that I have to go check out right now, not sure what's wrong with it. We also had a fiber customer go down. So out of 325 wireless subs we lost 1 maybe 2. Out of 50 fiber subs, we lost one. Looks like wireless is more reliable that fiber! lol Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!! The storm here on Thursday night tore one of my sites down. ONE 2 foot dish and one sector, were not able to be supported by the galvanized pipe just 7 feet. The wind bent it over at 20 degrees... and then the guy wire snapped in the upwind direction, causing the whole thing to snap off... The guys were below the sector, which was directly below the dish, and it bent 2" pipe (I think it was 2, maybe 1.5"). Either way, it bent over that pipe like nothing. The site had been through many 70+ mph storms without even being tweaked. For comparison purposes, I set up a 1" pipe and jumped on the middle, supported at the ends and could not bend it like that... (and I'm 275 lbs ) The guy wire was tension wire sold for holding up orchard trees! The pulling tension capability was way beyond 1000lbs. The site's still down, as yesterday, the wind was still screaming along at 40 mph, and we would not even attempt to raise the masting. It's under 20 feet above the barn roof, but we were afraid to get on the barn ourselves, much less attempt to raise 18 feet of pipe, antennas, and guy wires into place up on top of it. Hopefully by Sunday, the wind has died and it has not snowed again :(. When we left at 4:30 last night, the wind was still at 30-40 mph and it was well below freezing. brr... +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash - Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!! Wind storms came through last night. Power out at 6 sites this morning, various power companies. Started at 6 this morning...Put in 2 generators, purchased 8 marine batteries and patched them into my APC UPS units. 2 sites now still running on batteries, 2 on generators. Will be a late night I think... George, I would imagine you guys had it worse out there on the coast... Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!!
You guys totally one-upped me on these...so thanks for making me feel not so bad!!! ;) Still got one site without power...have a generator charging the UPS. When the generator runs out of fuel, the UPS (SNMP card) e-mails us to tell us it has about 20 hours on battery for us to get gas into the generator. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "Forbes Mercy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 5:33 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!! For us in little old Yakima we have a crumpled and twisted 50 foot tower that pulled the guy wire support concrete and all about 15 feet clean out of the ground while the tower was falling. It took six access points/antennas, of that we saved three of the radios and four of the antennas but it did hit the power line and the wait was two days for the power company. Do get back up we put in a wood pole and remounted all new equipment. We had the Canopy high end accounts back up in 4 hours and the rest of the 2.4 people up by days end. I had to go up about every 10 hours to change batteries until the power was back on. We have been blessed with good weather since the big storm so thank goodness for that. We measured 75 MPH gusts during the storm but of seven towers only had one crash and one with turned AP antennas. Then the customers with antennas that spun away from our tower started coming in. In all we have/are handling about 115 open tickets of which every staff member will be out in trucks Monday. I had to do Business Class customers all weekend since they have 24/7 response in their contract.One thing for sure using tripods or pole mounts are much better then some of the roof water pipe installs I found this week. Those always fail first. Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!!
For us in little old Yakima we have a crumpled and twisted 50 foot tower that pulled the guy wire support concrete and all about 15 feet clean out of the ground while the tower was falling. It took six access points/antennas, of that we saved three of the radios and four of the antennas but it did hit the power line and the wait was two days for the power company. Do get back up we put in a wood pole and remounted all new equipment. We had the Canopy high end accounts back up in 4 hours and the rest of the 2.4 people up by days end. I had to go up about every 10 hours to change batteries until the power was back on. We have been blessed with good weather since the big storm so thank goodness for that. We measured 75 MPH gusts during the storm but of seven towers only had one crash and one with turned AP antennas. Then the customers with antennas that spun away from our tower started coming in. In all we have/are handling about 115 open tickets of which every staff member will be out in trucks Monday. I had to do Business Class customers all weekend since they have 24/7 response in their contract.One thing for sure using tripods or pole mounts are much better then some of the roof water pipe installs I found this week. Those always fail first. Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061217/ap_on_re_us/northwest_storm While we experienced some very high winds, very little damage was done locally. Somewhat lesser windstorms are relatively common here in northeastern Oregon, and so there's not a large mass of damage that gets done by the "big" ones. +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:22 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!! > I hate y'all are having storms and even worse that it has knocked y'all off > line at different towers. > > It's been "almost" intolerable here too: > > http://www.weather.com/weather/wxdetail/71269?from=yest_bottomnav_undeclared > > > > Mac > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:19 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!! > > The storm here on Thursday night tore one of my sites down. > > ONE 2 foot dish and one sector, were not able to be supported by the > galvanized pipe just 7 feet. The wind bent it over at 20 degrees... and > then the guy wire snapped in the upwind direction, causing the whole thing > to snap off... The guys were below the sector, which was directly below > the dish, and it bent 2" pipe (I think it was 2, maybe 1.5"). Either way, > it bent over that pipe like nothing. The site had been through many 70+ > mph storms without even being tweaked. > > For comparison purposes, I set up a 1" pipe and jumped on the middle, > supported at the ends and could not bend it like that... (and I'm 275 > lbs ) > > The guy wire was tension wire sold for holding up orchard trees! The > pulling tension capability was way beyond 1000lbs. > > The site's still down, as yesterday, the wind was still screaming along at > 40 mph, and we would not even attempt to raise the masting. It's under 20 > feet above the barn roof, but we were afraid to get on the barn ourselves, > much less attempt to raise 18 feet of pipe, antennas, and guy wires into > place up on top of it. Hopefully by Sunday, the wind has died and it has > not snowed again :(. > > When we left at 4:30 last night, the wind was still at 30-40 mph and it was > well below freezing. > brr... > > > > +++ > neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington > email me at mark at neofast dot net > 541-969-8200 > Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net > > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Nash - Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:02 PM > Subject: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!! > > > > Wind storms came through last night. Power out at 6 sites this morning, > > various power companies. Started at 6 this morning...Put in 2 generators, > > purchased 8 marine batteries and patched them into my APC UPS units. 2 > > sites now still running on batteries, 2 on generators. Will be a late > night > > I think... > > > > George, I would imagine you guys had it worse out there on the coast... > > > > Mark Nash > > Network Engineer > > UnwiredOnline.Net > > 350 Holly Street > > Junction City, OR 97448 > > http://www.uwol.net > > 541-998- > > 541-998-5599 fax > > > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!!
I hate y'all are having storms and even worse that it has knocked y'all off line at different towers. It's been "almost" intolerable here too: http://www.weather.com/weather/wxdetail/71269?from=yest_bottomnav_undeclared Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!! The storm here on Thursday night tore one of my sites down. ONE 2 foot dish and one sector, were not able to be supported by the galvanized pipe just 7 feet. The wind bent it over at 20 degrees... and then the guy wire snapped in the upwind direction, causing the whole thing to snap off... The guys were below the sector, which was directly below the dish, and it bent 2" pipe (I think it was 2, maybe 1.5"). Either way, it bent over that pipe like nothing. The site had been through many 70+ mph storms without even being tweaked. For comparison purposes, I set up a 1" pipe and jumped on the middle, supported at the ends and could not bend it like that... (and I'm 275 lbs ) The guy wire was tension wire sold for holding up orchard trees! The pulling tension capability was way beyond 1000lbs. The site's still down, as yesterday, the wind was still screaming along at 40 mph, and we would not even attempt to raise the masting. It's under 20 feet above the barn roof, but we were afraid to get on the barn ourselves, much less attempt to raise 18 feet of pipe, antennas, and guy wires into place up on top of it. Hopefully by Sunday, the wind has died and it has not snowed again :(. When we left at 4:30 last night, the wind was still at 30-40 mph and it was well below freezing. brr... +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash - Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!! > Wind storms came through last night. Power out at 6 sites this morning, > various power companies. Started at 6 this morning...Put in 2 generators, > purchased 8 marine batteries and patched them into my APC UPS units. 2 > sites now still running on batteries, 2 on generators. Will be a late night > I think... > > George, I would imagine you guys had it worse out there on the coast... > > Mark Nash > Network Engineer > UnwiredOnline.Net > 350 Holly Street > Junction City, OR 97448 > http://www.uwol.net > 541-998- > 541-998-5599 fax > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!!
Mark Nash - Lists wrote: Wind storms came through last night. Power out at 6 sites this morning, various power companies. Started at 6 this morning...Put in 2 generators, purchased 8 marine batteries and patched them into my APC UPS units. 2 sites now still running on batteries, 2 on generators. Will be a late night I think... George, I would imagine you guys had it worse out there on the coast... We were waiting for it but not that bad. Main tower site is down, but they just put a new generator in and I had a ups so I never knew the power was down till the guy that owns the tower called and asked if I would refuel the generator. It has a 24 gallon tank and it burns a gallon per hour. Another site did go down, but by the time I got there the next morning the power came back up. I need to add ups there. -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!!
The storm here on Thursday night tore one of my sites down. ONE 2 foot dish and one sector, were not able to be supported by the galvanized pipe just 7 feet. The wind bent it over at 20 degrees... and then the guy wire snapped in the upwind direction, causing the whole thing to snap off... The guys were below the sector, which was directly below the dish, and it bent 2" pipe (I think it was 2, maybe 1.5"). Either way, it bent over that pipe like nothing. The site had been through many 70+ mph storms without even being tweaked. For comparison purposes, I set up a 1" pipe and jumped on the middle, supported at the ends and could not bend it like that... (and I'm 275 lbs ) The guy wire was tension wire sold for holding up orchard trees! The pulling tension capability was way beyond 1000lbs. The site's still down, as yesterday, the wind was still screaming along at 40 mph, and we would not even attempt to raise the masting. It's under 20 feet above the barn roof, but we were afraid to get on the barn ourselves, much less attempt to raise 18 feet of pipe, antennas, and guy wires into place up on top of it. Hopefully by Sunday, the wind has died and it has not snowed again :(. When we left at 4:30 last night, the wind was still at 30-40 mph and it was well below freezing. brr... +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash - Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!! > Wind storms came through last night. Power out at 6 sites this morning, > various power companies. Started at 6 this morning...Put in 2 generators, > purchased 8 marine batteries and patched them into my APC UPS units. 2 > sites now still running on batteries, 2 on generators. Will be a late night > I think... > > George, I would imagine you guys had it worse out there on the coast... > > Mark Nash > Network Engineer > UnwiredOnline.Net > 350 Holly Street > Junction City, OR 97448 > http://www.uwol.net > 541-998- > 541-998-5599 fax > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DAY FROM HELL!!!
At 10:30pm this evening one of our tower routers took to locking up. This is after being replaced just few weeks ago for the same problem. It was the same hardware and I can't tell if it's cold related or not but it doesn't feel like it. I've now put together another replacement and I'm just hoping this holds. What I really need is a source for quality industrial PC type machines with -40 temp ratings,compact flash, gig ethernets and 600mhz cpus (no sound, vga or other bs)... Mark Nash - Lists wrote: Wind storms came through last night. Power out at 6 sites this morning, various power companies. Started at 6 this morning...Put in 2 generators, purchased 8 marine batteries and patched them into my APC UPS units. 2 sites now still running on batteries, 2 on generators. Will be a late night I think... George, I would imagine you guys had it worse out there on the coast... Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
