Re: [WISPA] Things you might be interested in

2005-12-13 Thread A. Huppenthal

Did you try RMS for your monitoring / control hardware?
http://www.bndcom.com/rms/rms.htm

They are $500 list, have 3 relays remote controllable - NO/and NC 
connections, so if you want a fail over to closed you can do it. There's 
5 or 6 voltmeters, a 1/2 dozen TTL level contact closure sense items, 
low current draw - decent scripts.


Haven't seen any for $200, but the guys at BND have said they are 
working on a new one - maybe lower cost.


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What do you mean by thermo-electric generator? Something that works from 
Geo-Thermal sources?


Sterling has some interesting stuff. .:_)

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Great ideas. We've built lots of remote sites and frankly $800 / hour 
for a heli ride when things go south is crazy. We just don't do it. :-)



Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

I have found myself in need of some devices from time to time that I 
can't seem to buy at a reasonable price. 
 
Since I was laid up for a month and more, I began doing some research 
on developing things I needed.   Before I go into a bunch of work to 
try to finalize these... I'd like to know if anyone else is interested...
 
1.  IP addressable,  10/100 ethernet based voltage / charge / 
temperature / monitoring and/or switching device.  You 
could monitor batteries, solar panels, generator, start/stop things, 
etc.  Cost:  ~$200
 
2.  IP addressable, 10/100 ethernet based thermo-electric generator, 
fueled by propane, either remotely controlled, or operating on a 
programmable basis - to operate as a backup power supply in 
conjunction with 12 or 24V battery based DC systems.   Would provide 
battery monitoring, as well.
Approximate cost:  $2500 for a 75 watt 24V system.   Could be made in 
20, 50, 100, or larger wattage sizes - cost rises considerable with 
power output.This would serve as backup for a solar/wind or even 
for AC in conjunction with lead-acid batteries.
 
3.  crash detect and reboot  system.   This would connect via 
10/100M ethernet to a network, ping a programmable IP (in fact, 
several of them) and be able to power cycle dc or ac powered 
equipment.   Programmable as to how many pings to miss, how long to 
power down, etc.Cost:   ~$200. 
 
Each of these devices would be designed to operate on very minimal 
power and tolerate temperature extremes. 
 
 
North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061

personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
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Re: [WISPA] Things you might be interested in

2005-12-13 Thread Mark Koskenmaki

- Original Message - 
From: A. Huppenthal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Things you might be interested in


 Did you try RMS for your monitoring / control hardware?
 http://www.bndcom.com/rms/rms.htm

yes, I've seen them, and what they do can be done for a fraction of the
cost.


 They are $500 list, have 3 relays remote controllable - NO/and NC
 connections, so if you want a fail over to closed you can do it. There's
 5 or 6 voltmeters, a 1/2 dozen TTL level contact closure sense items,
 low current draw - decent scripts.

Yeah.   Similar idea, but lower power draw, simpler.


 Haven't seen any for $200, but the guys at BND have said they are
 working on a new one - maybe lower cost.

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 What do you mean by thermo-electric generator? Something that works from
 Geo-Thermal sources?

As I said, run on propane.   It generates DC power without any interference
or ignition noise.   It has no moving engine or generation parts.   It
directly converts heat to electric energy.These are available
commercially now, but nobody makes them with an ethernet based monitor /
controller, and they cost a fortune - many thousands of dollars, or else
they are very small, and don't make enough power to be useful to a WISP.


 Sterling has some interesting stuff. .:_)

Who / what?


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 Great ideas. We've built lots of remote sites and frankly $800 / hour
 for a heli ride when things go south is crazy. We just don't do it. :-)

Well, the idea is to build some stuff that really is capable of running for
months without attention.Solar sites are often built for small power
use, but generators that run on propane often don't like to start at 20
below, and you really can't tell what's going on if they don't seem to
start.



 Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

  I have found myself in need of some devices from time to time that I
  can't seem to buy at a reasonable price.
 
  Since I was laid up for a month and more, I began doing some research
  on developing things I needed.   Before I go into a bunch of work to
  try to finalize these... I'd like to know if anyone else is
interested...
 
  1.  IP addressable,  10/100 ethernet based voltage / charge /
  temperature / monitoring and/or switching device.  You
  could monitor batteries, solar panels, generator, start/stop things,
  etc.  Cost:  ~$200
 
  2.  IP addressable, 10/100 ethernet based thermo-electric generator,
  fueled by propane, either remotely controlled, or operating on a
  programmable basis - to operate as a backup power supply in
  conjunction with 12 or 24V battery based DC systems.   Would provide
  battery monitoring, as well.
  Approximate cost:  $2500 for a 75 watt 24V system.   Could be made in
  20, 50, 100, or larger wattage sizes - cost rises considerable with
  power output.This would serve as backup for a solar/wind or even
  for AC in conjunction with lead-acid batteries.
 
  3.  crash detect and reboot  system.   This would connect via
  10/100M ethernet to a network, ping a programmable IP (in fact,
  several of them) and be able to power cycle dc or ac powered
  equipment.   Programmable as to how many pings to miss, how long to
  power down, etc.Cost:   ~$200.
 
  Each of these devices would be designed to operate on very minimal
  power and tolerate temperature extremes.
 
 
  North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
  personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
  sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
  Fast Internet, NO WIRES!

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RE: [WISPA] Things you might be interested in

2005-12-13 Thread dustin jurman



I would be interested in #1.


Dustin Jurman
President
Rapid Systems Corporation
1211 N. Westshore Blvd
Tampa, FL 33607
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I have found myself in need of some devices from time to time that I can't 
seem to buy at a reasonable price. 

Since I was laid up for a month and more, I began doing some research on 
developing things I needed. Before I go into a bunch of work to try 
to finalize these... I'd like to know if anyone else is interested...

1. IP addressable, 10/100 ethernet based voltage / charge / 
temperature / monitoring and/or switching device.You 
couldmonitorbatteries, solar panels, generator, start/stop things, 
etc. Cost: ~$200

2. IP addressable, 10/100 ethernet based thermo-electric generator, 
fueled by propane, either remotely controlled, or operating on a programmable 
basis -to operate as a backup power supply in conjunction with 12 or 24V 
battery based DC systems. Would provide battery monitoring, as 
well.
Approximate cost: $2500 for a 75 watt 24V system. Could 
be made in 20, 50, 100, or larger wattage sizes - cost rises considerable with 
power output. This would serve as backup for a solar/wind or 
even for AC in conjunction with lead-acid batteries.

3. "crash detect and reboot" system. This would 
connect via 10/100M ethernet to a network, ping a programmable IP (in fact, 
several of them) and be able to power cycle dc or ac powered 
equipment. Programmable as to how many pings to miss, how long to 
power down, etc. Cost: ~$200. 

Each of these devices would be designed to operate on very minimal power 
and tolerate temperature extremes. 


North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence 
to: mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to: purchasing at 
neofast dot netFast Internet, NO 
WIRES!-
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