Re: [WISPA] Frequency Planning

2009-12-09 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Use LOW power and really good antennas.  Use both polarities etc.

How many radios per tower?

Basically, when possible, think of a honey comb.  Each flat side gets it's 
on freqency, no two sides that touch each other (including the corners) get 
the same band.

marlon

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Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:47 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Frequency Planning


 Anyone have any suggestions for a program that we can use to document
 frequencies that is easy to use? Trying to plan 5ghz frequencies across
 several towers that are close proximity.



 
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Re: [WISPA] Frequency Planning

2009-12-09 Thread Andy Trimmell
In some cases 6.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:02 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Frequency Planning

Use LOW power and really good antennas.  Use both polarities etc.

How many radios per tower?

Basically, when possible, think of a honey comb.  Each flat side gets
it's 
on freqency, no two sides that touch each other (including the corners)
get 
the same band.

marlon

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From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:47 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Frequency Planning


 Anyone have any suggestions for a program that we can use to document
 frequencies that is easy to use? Trying to plan 5ghz frequencies
across
 several towers that are close proximity.






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Re: [WISPA] Frequency Planning

2009-12-09 Thread Robert West
Marlon,

no two sides that touch each other (including the corners) get 
the same band.

Are you saying you have, say, 2.4 on one corner and then 5 on the corner the
2.4 is closest to?

Bob-


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:02 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Frequency Planning

Use LOW power and really good antennas.  Use both polarities etc.

How many radios per tower?

Basically, when possible, think of a honey comb.  Each flat side gets it's 
on freqency, no two sides that touch each other (including the corners) get 
the same band.

marlon

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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:47 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Frequency Planning


 Anyone have any suggestions for a program that we can use to document
 frequencies that is easy to use? Trying to plan 5ghz frequencies across
 several towers that are close proximity.






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Re: [WISPA] Frequency Planning

2009-12-09 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
No.  Use 5725 on one side, 5850 on the other.  Don't use 5735 or 5840 on 
either adjacent side if you can help it.

If you are doing this with 2.4 you are pretty well screwed :-).  There just 
isn't enough spectrum to do it nicely.

Keep the TX power REALLY low and make up for it with bigger client side 
antennas.

If it's PTP links, this gets a lot easier.

This isn't exactly the right thing but it'll get you some idea of how this 
can work out:
http://odessaoffice.com/wireless/fh_vs_ds.pdf

At some point in the past BreezeCOM (Alvarion today) had a nice pdf on this 
topic.  Patrick, do you know where to find the AP planning document these 
days?
laters,
marlon

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From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Frequency Planning


 Marlon,

 no two sides that touch each other (including the corners) get
 the same band.

 Are you saying you have, say, 2.4 on one corner and then 5 on the corner 
 the
 2.4 is closest to?

 Bob-


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:02 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Frequency Planning

 Use LOW power and really good antennas.  Use both polarities etc.

 How many radios per tower?

 Basically, when possible, think of a honey comb.  Each flat side gets it's
 on freqency, no two sides that touch each other (including the corners) 
 get
 the same band.

 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:47 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Frequency Planning


 Anyone have any suggestions for a program that we can use to document
 frequencies that is easy to use? Trying to plan 5ghz frequencies across
 several towers that are close proximity.




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Frequency Planning

2009-12-09 Thread Robert West
Oh, okay.  I was confused with the band  I thinking 2.4 and 5.  Makes
sense though, I try to actually do that although sometimes I screw myself
with having other AP''s down the road on channels that will conflict with
the new one.  Takes more planning that I ever have time for or are allowed
to have.  :)

Bob-


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Frequency Planning

No.  Use 5725 on one side, 5850 on the other.  Don't use 5735 or 5840 on 
either adjacent side if you can help it.

If you are doing this with 2.4 you are pretty well screwed :-).  There just 
isn't enough spectrum to do it nicely.

Keep the TX power REALLY low and make up for it with bigger client side 
antennas.

If it's PTP links, this gets a lot easier.

This isn't exactly the right thing but it'll get you some idea of how this 
can work out:
http://odessaoffice.com/wireless/fh_vs_ds.pdf

At some point in the past BreezeCOM (Alvarion today) had a nice pdf on this 
topic.  Patrick, do you know where to find the AP planning document these 
days?
laters,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Frequency Planning


 Marlon,

 no two sides that touch each other (including the corners) get
 the same band.

 Are you saying you have, say, 2.4 on one corner and then 5 on the corner 
 the
 2.4 is closest to?

 Bob-


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:02 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Frequency Planning

 Use LOW power and really good antennas.  Use both polarities etc.

 How many radios per tower?

 Basically, when possible, think of a honey comb.  Each flat side gets it's
 on freqency, no two sides that touch each other (including the corners) 
 get
 the same band.

 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:47 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Frequency Planning


 Anyone have any suggestions for a program that we can use to document
 frequencies that is easy to use? Trying to plan 5ghz frequencies across
 several towers that are close proximity.






 
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