Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-06 Thread Robert West
Keep dreaming!

Capatalisim...

Bob-

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  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not 
healthcare, taxes or government related.


  Now, just make the CPE's work with my existing XR9 based AP's!!!



  Josh Luthman wrote: 
900.OFDMI can't sleep I'm so excited!

On 5/6/10, Robert West  wrote:
  I've been looking at them and reading and it's all good.  Looks like the
ca$h is well worth it.  Hurts, but still seems to be money well spent.

UBNT tells me august for 900MHz sectors and rockets..

Bob-


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From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


MTI is damn good quality.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote:
  I hear ya.  I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and
over.  Pays 10X in the long run.

I prefer goo quality. :)

I'll give it a look to be sure.

Bob-


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To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.



Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz.  I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no
problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use
equipment that I don't have to go back to.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, "Robert West"  wrote:


  I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
antenna(s).  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just
because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses
what and if it works great.  I've done the Omni path, okay but
noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4
miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.

I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a
cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top
quality if it's deserved.

Thanks.

Bob-

The cheap SOB





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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-06 Thread Blair Davis




Now, just make the CPE's work with my existing XR9 based AP's!!!



Josh Luthman wrote:

  900.OFDMI can't sleep I'm so excited!

On 5/6/10, Robert West  wrote:
  
  
I've been looking at them and reading and it's all good.  Looks like the
ca$h is well worth it.  Hurts, but still seems to be money well spent.

UBNT tells me august for 900MHz sectors and rockets..

Bob-


- Original Message -
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.




  MTI is damn good quality.


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http://www.ics-il.com



On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote:
  
  
I hear ya.  I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and
over.  Pays 10X in the long run.

I prefer goo quality. :)

I'll give it a look to be sure.

Bob-


- Original Message -
From: "Jeremie Chism"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.





  Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz.  I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no
problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use
equipment that I don't have to go back to.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, "Robert West"  wrote:


  
  
I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
antenna(s).  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just
because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses
what and if it works great.  I've done the Omni path, okay but
noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4
miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.

I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a
cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top
quality if it's deserved.

Thanks.

Bob-

The cheap SOB





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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-06 Thread Josh Luthman
900.OFDMI can't sleep I'm so excited!

On 5/6/10, Robert West  wrote:
> I've been looking at them and reading and it's all good.  Looks like the
> ca$h is well worth it.  Hurts, but still seems to be money well spent.
>
> UBNT tells me august for 900MHz sectors and rockets..
>
> Bob-
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike Hammett" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
> Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>
>
>> MTI is damn good quality.
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote:
>>> I hear ya.  I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and
>>> over.  Pays 10X in the long run.
>>>
>>> I prefer goo quality. :)
>>>
>>> I'll give it a look to be sure.
>>>
>>> Bob-
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Jeremie Chism"
>>> To: "WISPA General List"
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
>>> Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz.  I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no
 problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use
 equipment that I don't have to go back to.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, "Robert West">>> micro.com>  wrote:


> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
> antenna(s).  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just
> because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses
> what and if it works great.  I've done the Omni path, okay but
> noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4
> miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.
>
> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a
> cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top
> quality if it's deserved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob-
>
> The cheap SOB
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-03 Thread Josh Luthman
It's canopy - 8mhz channels.  He is using ONE radio for all three antennas.

Works like an omni and does a good job.

On 5/3/10, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
> What gain of YAGI are you using? You didn't say how well it was working or
> not either.
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
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> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz
> H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>
> I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is
> doing it.  It was suggested to me a few months ago.
>
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>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
>
>> Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage
> with
>> 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you?
>>
>> Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload
>> on
>> the tower is too much and looking for alternatives.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
>> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM
>> To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol
>> SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>>
>> SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique
>> patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would
>> love
>>
>> to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer...
> 1)
>> They tend to make it possible to make "shorter" antennas for similar gain.
>> For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector
>> antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and
>> still have them perform well.  These are great for repeaters, where there
>> is
>>
>> a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the
> ground
>> where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable.
>>
>> Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else
>> in
>>
>> this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an
>> antenna that matches their specific need.  SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna,
>> they really serve two different market segments.
>>
>> MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass
>> antenna.  Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most
>> cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of
>> the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the
> MTI
>> makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the
>> perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness.
>>
>> In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like
>> them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on
>> beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy
>> to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find
>> Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other
>> good sources.   The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I
>> dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also
>> comes size.  This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg.
>> (Thats
>>
>> not exact db spec)
>>
>> There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use
>> the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using
>> Canopy  are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector.
>>
>> When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to
>> colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees.
>> With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity
>> colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels),
>> fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal
>> seperation, maybe 3ft)  if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation
> between
>> each antenna.
>>
>> Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the
>> other
>>
>> native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made
>> that
>>
>> possible.  But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying
>> signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we
>> recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also.
>>
>

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-04-30 Thread jp
MTI is the shizz for this. MTI will give much better coverage than a 
superpass, more than enough coverage to be worth the extra money. The 
MTI's radiating/listening pattern is pretty neat too, whereas the 
Superpass will be kinda like a lopsided omni.

The pac-wireless hoz 900 sectors are actually good too in terms of 
operation. Their fiberglassing isn't quite as good as MTI's covering 
though.

Superpass is a step up over a $100 omni, but it's not functionally 
competitive for sectors.

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 09:02:10PM -0400, Robert West wrote:
> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector 
> antenna(s).  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because 
> I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if 
> it works great.  I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new 
> install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles.  Mostly clear path 
> but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.
> 
> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap 
> SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality 
> if it's deserved.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Bob-
> 
> The cheap SOB
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-04-29 Thread RickG
I've had Superpass units up since 2004 and still working well. I
almost hate to switch but the Ubiquiti units are very tempting. -RickG

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Robert West  wrote:
> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). 
>  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to 
> buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great.  I've 
> done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent 
> signal for 2 to 4 miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to 
> the CPEs.
>
> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so 
> it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's 
> deserved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob-
>
> The cheap SOB
>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-04-29 Thread RickG
Hey! Does the H-Pol stand for Heavy Politics? 

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Robert West  wrote:
> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). 
>  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to 
> buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great.  I've 
> done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent 
> signal for 2 to 4 miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to 
> the CPEs.
>
> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so 
> it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's 
> deserved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob-
>
> The cheap SOB
>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-04-29 Thread Jeremie Chism
Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz.  I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no  
problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use  
equipment that I don't have to go back to.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, "Robert West"  wrote:

> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector  
> antenna(s).  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just  
> because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses  
> what and if it works great.  I've done the Omni path, okay but  
> noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4  
> miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.
>
> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a  
> cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top  
> quality if it's deserved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob-
>
> The cheap SOB
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-04-29 Thread Jason Bailey
Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second quarter 
of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :)


--- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West  wrote:


From: Robert West 
Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not 
healthcare, taxes or government related.
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM


I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s).  
Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy 
these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great.  I've done the 
Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 
to 4 miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.

I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so 
it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's 
deserved.

Thanks.

Bob-

The cheap SOB






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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-04-29 Thread Jason Bailey
THANKS for changing the subjectCheck out MTI...worth the extra

--- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West  wrote:


From: Robert West 
Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not 
healthcare, taxes or government related.
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM


I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s).  
Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy 
these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great.  I've done the 
Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 
to 4 miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.

I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so 
it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's 
deserved.

Thanks.

Bob-

The cheap SOB






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