Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2012-09-28 Thread Jardison da Silva Santos
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Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-24 Thread jp
I haven't tried MT 4.x yet, but the other 3.x frequency scan only showed 
802.11 stuff with the same channel size too. For a half way useful scan, 
you'd have to scan on 5,10,20,40 mhz channel sizes and compile the 
results yourself. They've traditionally been weak on spectrum analysis 
and noise floor measurement, but I'd be glad to see that change.

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:31:39PM -0500, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Correct me if I am wrong but a spectrum analyzer would have to see only it's
> type of transmission or everything.
> 
> Mikrotik (at least before Mike's post..) could only hear 802.11 stuff.
> Nothing else.
> 
> Trango, Canopy, Redline, etc can all see everything in the band.  I couldn't
> imagine Radwin's stuff hearing only Radwin.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> --- Albert Einstein
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:24 PM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:
> 
> > I have not had a chance to personally test it... but it should detect noise
> > regardless of the transmitting device (i.e. like Canopy, Trango, Orthogon,
> > et. al.)
> >
> > Daniel White
> > 3-dB Networks
> > http://www.3dbnetworks.com
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:46 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
> >
> > > Latest firmware has a spectrum analyzer built in...
> >
> > A real one, sorta link Trango's and Canopy's?
> > Or just one that sees 802.11n/a devices?
> >
> > Tom DeReggi
> > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "3-dB Networks" 
> > To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
> >
> >
> > > Latest firmware has a spectrum analyzer built in...
> > >
> > > Daniel White
> > > 3-dB Networks
> > > http://www.3dbnetworks.com
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > > Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:18 AM
> > > To: WISPA General List
> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
> > >
> > > Also keep in mind someone said they bricked it while using Vista.  I
> > > expect 7 to work as well if not better then Vista.
> > >
> > > I never did try WINE, but an XP VM guest works.
> > >
> > > My remark was more suggesting I do not like the menu system or layout.
> > > I found that some commands needed issued multiple times and it seemed
> > > awfully confusing when trying to set up.  I would like to see a
> > > spectrum analyzer and some basic values on link quality.
> > >
> > > On 11/24/09, Patrick Shoemaker  wrote:
> > >> Yes. Most importantly, in a pinch when you've just run over your Windows
> > >> laptop with the truck on the way to the tower site, or need to make
> > >> changes through a telnet session from a router, or have only your
> > >> blackberry/iphone with you, etc., command line / HTTP configuration is a
> > >> lifesaver.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Patrick Shoemaker
> > >> Vector Data Systems LLC
> > >> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
> > >> office: (301) 358-1690 x36
> > >> http://www.vectordatasystems.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Kevin Neal wrote:
> > >>> I would rather see a web or command line instead of anything you have
> > >>> to install.  OS independent then, as long as they don't write it
> > >>> specifically for IE :(
> > >>>
> > >>> -Kevin
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:00 AM,   wrote:
> > >>>> As a Mac OS X/Windows/Linux user (OS X natively and Windows, Linux
> > >>>> under
> > >>>> Fusion) I'd like to see the configuration apps be universal (Java?) or
> > >>>> something cross platform. But I realize you can't fight city hall. So
> > >>>> I'll always have Fu

Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-24 Thread Josh Luthman
Correct me if I am wrong but a spectrum analyzer would have to see only it's
type of transmission or everything.

Mikrotik (at least before Mike's post..) could only hear 802.11 stuff.
Nothing else.

Trango, Canopy, Redline, etc can all see everything in the band.  I couldn't
imagine Radwin's stuff hearing only Radwin.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
--- Albert Einstein


On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:24 PM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:

> I have not had a chance to personally test it... but it should detect noise
> regardless of the transmitting device (i.e. like Canopy, Trango, Orthogon,
> et. al.)
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:46 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
>
> > Latest firmware has a spectrum analyzer built in...
>
> A real one, sorta link Trango's and Canopy's?
> Or just one that sees 802.11n/a devices?
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "3-dB Networks" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
>
>
> > Latest firmware has a spectrum analyzer built in...
> >
> > Daniel White
> > 3-dB Networks
> > http://www.3dbnetworks.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:18 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
> >
> > Also keep in mind someone said they bricked it while using Vista.  I
> > expect 7 to work as well if not better then Vista.
> >
> > I never did try WINE, but an XP VM guest works.
> >
> > My remark was more suggesting I do not like the menu system or layout.
> > I found that some commands needed issued multiple times and it seemed
> > awfully confusing when trying to set up.  I would like to see a
> > spectrum analyzer and some basic values on link quality.
> >
> > On 11/24/09, Patrick Shoemaker  wrote:
> >> Yes. Most importantly, in a pinch when you've just run over your Windows
> >> laptop with the truck on the way to the tower site, or need to make
> >> changes through a telnet session from a router, or have only your
> >> blackberry/iphone with you, etc., command line / HTTP configuration is a
> >> lifesaver.
> >>
> >>
> >> Patrick Shoemaker
> >> Vector Data Systems LLC
> >> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
> >> office: (301) 358-1690 x36
> >> http://www.vectordatasystems.com
> >>
> >>
> >> Kevin Neal wrote:
> >>> I would rather see a web or command line instead of anything you have
> >>> to install.  OS independent then, as long as they don't write it
> >>> specifically for IE :(
> >>>
> >>> -Kevin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:00 AM,   wrote:
> >>>> As a Mac OS X/Windows/Linux user (OS X natively and Windows, Linux
> >>>> under
> >>>> Fusion) I'd like to see the configuration apps be universal (Java?) or
> >>>> something cross platform. But I realize you can't fight city hall. So
> >>>> I'll always have Fusion for a small handful of apps (Mapwel, Dude,
> >>>> WinBox).
> >>>>
> >>>> Greg
> >>>>
> >>>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Josh, you are correct we are not the same person.  I live in a world
> >>>>> that windows is operated on 90% on all business computers.  I don't
> > live
> >>>>> in a world of nirvana that I can use just linux and life is good.
> >>>>> Besides if I was programming an app that I wanted to reach the
> >>>>> majority
> >>>>> of computers why would I program for just linux.  I would program for
> >>>>> the standard.  More to the point, my review was not to hack the OS of
> >>>>> the computer the software needed to be installed on it, it was for
> the
> >&g

Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-24 Thread Josh Luthman
I want!!!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
--- Albert Einstein


On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

> MT's new spectrum analyzer identifies what kind of devices are making the
> noise, including microwaves and cordless phones.
>
> http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Spectrum_analyzer
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --
> From: "Tom DeReggi" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:45 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
>
> >> Latest firmware has a spectrum analyzer built in...
> >
> > A real one, sorta link Trango's and Canopy's?
> > Or just one that sees 802.11n/a devices?
> >
> > Tom DeReggi
> > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "3-dB Networks" 
> > To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
> >
> >
> >> Latest firmware has a spectrum analyzer built in...
> >>
> >> Daniel White
> >> 3-dB Networks
> >> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:18 AM
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
> >>
> >> Also keep in mind someone said they bricked it while using Vista.  I
> >> expect 7 to work as well if not better then Vista.
> >>
> >> I never did try WINE, but an XP VM guest works.
> >>
> >> My remark was more suggesting I do not like the menu system or layout.
> >> I found that some commands needed issued multiple times and it seemed
> >> awfully confusing when trying to set up.  I would like to see a
> >> spectrum analyzer and some basic values on link quality.
> >>
> >> On 11/24/09, Patrick Shoemaker 
> wrote:
> >>> Yes. Most importantly, in a pinch when you've just run over your
> Windows
> >>> laptop with the truck on the way to the tower site, or need to make
> >>> changes through a telnet session from a router, or have only your
> >>> blackberry/iphone with you, etc., command line / HTTP configuration is
> a
> >>> lifesaver.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Patrick Shoemaker
> >>> Vector Data Systems LLC
> >>> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
> >>> office: (301) 358-1690 x36
> >>> http://www.vectordatasystems.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Kevin Neal wrote:
> >>>> I would rather see a web or command line instead of anything you have
> >>>> to install.  OS independent then, as long as they don't write it
> >>>> specifically for IE :(
> >>>>
> >>>> -Kevin
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:00 AM,   wrote:
> >>>>> As a Mac OS X/Windows/Linux user (OS X natively and Windows, Linux
> >>>>> under
> >>>>> Fusion) I'd like to see the configuration apps be universal (Java?)
> or
> >>>>> something cross platform. But I realize you can't fight city hall. So
> >>>>> I'll always have Fusion for a small handful of apps (Mapwel, Dude,
> >>>>> WinBox).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Greg
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Josh, you are correct we are not the same person.  I live in a world
> >>>>>> that windows is operated on 90% on all business computers.  I don't
> >> live
> >>>>>> in a world of nirvana that I can use just linux and life is good.
> >>>>>> Besides if I was programming an app that I wanted to reach the
> >>>>>> majority
> >>>>>> of computers why would I program for just linux.  I would program
> for
> >>>>>> the standard.  More to the point, my review was not to hack the OS
> of
> >>>>>> the computer th

Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-24 Thread 3-dB Networks
I have not had a chance to personally test it... but it should detect noise
regardless of the transmitting device (i.e. like Canopy, Trango, Orthogon,
et. al.)

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

> Latest firmware has a spectrum analyzer built in...

A real one, sorta link Trango's and Canopy's?
Or just one that sees 802.11n/a devices?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "3-dB Networks" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8


> Latest firmware has a spectrum analyzer built in...
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:18 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
>
> Also keep in mind someone said they bricked it while using Vista.  I
> expect 7 to work as well if not better then Vista.
>
> I never did try WINE, but an XP VM guest works.
>
> My remark was more suggesting I do not like the menu system or layout.
> I found that some commands needed issued multiple times and it seemed
> awfully confusing when trying to set up.  I would like to see a
> spectrum analyzer and some basic values on link quality.
>
> On 11/24/09, Patrick Shoemaker  wrote:
>> Yes. Most importantly, in a pinch when you've just run over your Windows
>> laptop with the truck on the way to the tower site, or need to make
>> changes through a telnet session from a router, or have only your
>> blackberry/iphone with you, etc., command line / HTTP configuration is a
>> lifesaver.
>>
>>
>> Patrick Shoemaker
>> Vector Data Systems LLC
>> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
>> office: (301) 358-1690 x36
>> http://www.vectordatasystems.com
>>
>>
>> Kevin Neal wrote:
>>> I would rather see a web or command line instead of anything you have
>>> to install.  OS independent then, as long as they don't write it
>>> specifically for IE :(
>>>
>>> -Kevin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:00 AM,   wrote:
>>>> As a Mac OS X/Windows/Linux user (OS X natively and Windows, Linux 
>>>> under
>>>> Fusion) I'd like to see the configuration apps be universal (Java?) or
>>>> something cross platform. But I realize you can't fight city hall. So
>>>> I'll always have Fusion for a small handful of apps (Mapwel, Dude,
>>>> WinBox).
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Josh, you are correct we are not the same person.  I live in a world
>>>>> that windows is operated on 90% on all business computers.  I don't
> live
>>>>> in a world of nirvana that I can use just linux and life is good.
>>>>> Besides if I was programming an app that I wanted to reach the 
>>>>> majority
>>>>> of computers why would I program for just linux.  I would program for
>>>>> the standard.  More to the point, my review was not to hack the OS of
>>>>> the computer the software needed to be installed on it, it was for the
>>>>> equipment.  I don't feel your comments help anyone and put a shadow
> over
>>>>> a good product.
>>>>>
>>>>> The RadWin 2000 product is easy to configure but as Josh has pointed
> out
>>>>> you must use a windows computer to configure it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve Barnes
>>>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:27 PM
>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
>>>>>
>>>>>> Software easy to use
>>>>> Is this the Windows only RadWin stuff still?  Not sure how in the 
>>>>> world
>>>>> you
>>>>> could call that thing easy to use, b

Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Hammett
MT's new spectrum analyzer identifies what kind of devices are making the 
noise, including microwaves and cordless phones.

http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Spectrum_analyzer


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: "Tom DeReggi" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:45 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

>> Latest firmware has a spectrum analyzer built in...
>
> A real one, sorta link Trango's and Canopy's?
> Or just one that sees 802.11n/a devices?
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "3-dB Networks" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
>
>
>> Latest firmware has a spectrum analyzer built in...
>>
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networks
>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:18 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
>>
>> Also keep in mind someone said they bricked it while using Vista.  I
>> expect 7 to work as well if not better then Vista.
>>
>> I never did try WINE, but an XP VM guest works.
>>
>> My remark was more suggesting I do not like the menu system or layout.
>> I found that some commands needed issued multiple times and it seemed
>> awfully confusing when trying to set up.  I would like to see a
>> spectrum analyzer and some basic values on link quality.
>>
>> On 11/24/09, Patrick Shoemaker  wrote:
>>> Yes. Most importantly, in a pinch when you've just run over your Windows
>>> laptop with the truck on the way to the tower site, or need to make
>>> changes through a telnet session from a router, or have only your
>>> blackberry/iphone with you, etc., command line / HTTP configuration is a
>>> lifesaver.
>>>
>>>
>>> Patrick Shoemaker
>>> Vector Data Systems LLC
>>> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
>>> office: (301) 358-1690 x36
>>> http://www.vectordatasystems.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Kevin Neal wrote:
>>>> I would rather see a web or command line instead of anything you have
>>>> to install.  OS independent then, as long as they don't write it
>>>> specifically for IE :(
>>>>
>>>> -Kevin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:00 AM,   wrote:
>>>>> As a Mac OS X/Windows/Linux user (OS X natively and Windows, Linux
>>>>> under
>>>>> Fusion) I'd like to see the configuration apps be universal (Java?) or
>>>>> something cross platform. But I realize you can't fight city hall. So
>>>>> I'll always have Fusion for a small handful of apps (Mapwel, Dude,
>>>>> WinBox).
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh, you are correct we are not the same person.  I live in a world
>>>>>> that windows is operated on 90% on all business computers.  I don't
>> live
>>>>>> in a world of nirvana that I can use just linux and life is good.
>>>>>> Besides if I was programming an app that I wanted to reach the
>>>>>> majority
>>>>>> of computers why would I program for just linux.  I would program for
>>>>>> the standard.  More to the point, my review was not to hack the OS of
>>>>>> the computer the software needed to be installed on it, it was for 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> equipment.  I don't feel your comments help anyone and put a shadow
>> over
>>>>>> a good product.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The RadWin 2000 product is easy to configure but as Josh has pointed
>> out
>>>>>> you must use a windows computer to configure it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve Barnes
>>>>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf 

Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
> Latest firmware has a spectrum analyzer built in...

A real one, sorta link Trango's and Canopy's?
Or just one that sees 802.11n/a devices?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "3-dB Networks" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8


> Latest firmware has a spectrum analyzer built in...
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:18 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
>
> Also keep in mind someone said they bricked it while using Vista.  I
> expect 7 to work as well if not better then Vista.
>
> I never did try WINE, but an XP VM guest works.
>
> My remark was more suggesting I do not like the menu system or layout.
> I found that some commands needed issued multiple times and it seemed
> awfully confusing when trying to set up.  I would like to see a
> spectrum analyzer and some basic values on link quality.
>
> On 11/24/09, Patrick Shoemaker  wrote:
>> Yes. Most importantly, in a pinch when you've just run over your Windows
>> laptop with the truck on the way to the tower site, or need to make
>> changes through a telnet session from a router, or have only your
>> blackberry/iphone with you, etc., command line / HTTP configuration is a
>> lifesaver.
>>
>>
>> Patrick Shoemaker
>> Vector Data Systems LLC
>> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
>> office: (301) 358-1690 x36
>> http://www.vectordatasystems.com
>>
>>
>> Kevin Neal wrote:
>>> I would rather see a web or command line instead of anything you have
>>> to install.  OS independent then, as long as they don't write it
>>> specifically for IE :(
>>>
>>> -Kevin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:00 AM,   wrote:
>>>> As a Mac OS X/Windows/Linux user (OS X natively and Windows, Linux 
>>>> under
>>>> Fusion) I'd like to see the configuration apps be universal (Java?) or
>>>> something cross platform. But I realize you can't fight city hall. So
>>>> I'll always have Fusion for a small handful of apps (Mapwel, Dude,
>>>> WinBox).
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Josh, you are correct we are not the same person.  I live in a world
>>>>> that windows is operated on 90% on all business computers.  I don't
> live
>>>>> in a world of nirvana that I can use just linux and life is good.
>>>>> Besides if I was programming an app that I wanted to reach the 
>>>>> majority
>>>>> of computers why would I program for just linux.  I would program for
>>>>> the standard.  More to the point, my review was not to hack the OS of
>>>>> the computer the software needed to be installed on it, it was for the
>>>>> equipment.  I don't feel your comments help anyone and put a shadow
> over
>>>>> a good product.
>>>>>
>>>>> The RadWin 2000 product is easy to configure but as Josh has pointed
> out
>>>>> you must use a windows computer to configure it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve Barnes
>>>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:27 PM
>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
>>>>>
>>>>>> Software easy to use
>>>>> Is this the Windows only RadWin stuff still?  Not sure how in the 
>>>>> world
>>>>> you
>>>>> could call that thing easy to use, but we are not the same person.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>>>>> --- Albert Einstein
>>

Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-24 Thread 3-dB Networks
A web GUI is supposed to be in the next release, in Jan.  Part of the
problem is that historically, the customer base for this product has been
Telco's... things have been kinda setup for them.

I should have a link at Animal Farm if anyone wants to see one in action...

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 1:38 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

> The RadWin 2000 product is easy to configure but as Josh has pointed out 
> you must use a windows computer to configure it.
> I don't feel your comments help anyone and put a shadow over a good 
> product.

I'm sure the RadWin is a real nice product, and that windows only is fine 
for many people.  But Josh's comment did help some people, such as myself, 
so that we can qualify whether the RadWin product is right for us. I would 
have been pissed if I ordered a $3k-$5k radio and then learned I couldn't 
use it after it arrived, because of GUI requirements. Clearly the mechanisms

available to configure a radio are relevent.  Support for Telnet is just as 
relevent as support for SNMP for example, if a WISP's Network Management 
design requires it.
For example in our network, we insist that all critical WAN equipment that 
we use supports a command line interface, so it can be managed by our 
command line Routers, without disconnecting the radio from the router, or 
relying on a free port on the router that would need configured for a laptop

to be connected to.

Having a windows only config option does not make a product bad, but it does

undisputedly limit the market potential of that product, because there are a

percentage of ISPs that rely on text console management, for many reasons..

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Barnes" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8


> Josh, you are correct we are not the same person.  I live in a world that 
> windows is operated on 90% on all business computers.  I don't live in a 
> world of nirvana that I can use just linux and life is good.  Besides if I

> was programming an app that I wanted to reach the majority of computers 
> why would I program for just linux.  I would program for the standard. 
> More to the point, my review was not to hack the OS of the computer the 
> software needed to be installed on it, it was for the equipment.  I don't 
> feel your comments help anyone and put a shadow over a good product.
>
> The RadWin 2000 product is easy to configure but as Josh has pointed out 
> you must use a windows computer to configure it.
>
> Steve Barnes
> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:27 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
>
>>Software easy to use
>
> Is this the Windows only RadWin stuff still?  Not sure how in the world 
> you
> could call that thing easy to use, but we are not the same person.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> --- Albert Einstein
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>
>> Since we are giving recommendations I just had a RadWin 2000 FDX Link put
>> up and with 2- 2ft FDX PacWireless Dishes.  The Link is 18.2 miles. -62 
>> both
>> ends.  Can push 42 Mbps FDX using TCP Bandwidth test on Mtiks on both 
>> ends.
>>  Link extremely stable <$4000. Software easy to use. Radios so easy to 
>> setup
>> I called Tech support and asked what I forgot.  Very happy.  Replaced
>> frustrating StarOS FDX that gave me about 10 Mbps.
>>
>> Steve Barnes
>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>
>>
>>
>>


>> WISPA Wants You! Join today!
>> http://signup.wispa.org/
>>
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>>
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Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-24 Thread 3-dB Networks
Latest firmware has a spectrum analyzer built in...

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:18 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

Also keep in mind someone said they bricked it while using Vista.  I
expect 7 to work as well if not better then Vista.

I never did try WINE, but an XP VM guest works.

My remark was more suggesting I do not like the menu system or layout.
 I found that some commands needed issued multiple times and it seemed
awfully confusing when trying to set up.  I would like to see a
spectrum analyzer and some basic values on link quality.

On 11/24/09, Patrick Shoemaker  wrote:
> Yes. Most importantly, in a pinch when you've just run over your Windows
> laptop with the truck on the way to the tower site, or need to make
> changes through a telnet session from a router, or have only your
> blackberry/iphone with you, etc., command line / HTTP configuration is a
> lifesaver.
>
>
> Patrick Shoemaker
> Vector Data Systems LLC
> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
> office: (301) 358-1690 x36
> http://www.vectordatasystems.com
>
>
> Kevin Neal wrote:
>> I would rather see a web or command line instead of anything you have
>> to install.  OS independent then, as long as they don't write it
>> specifically for IE :(
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:00 AM,   wrote:
>>> As a Mac OS X/Windows/Linux user (OS X natively and Windows, Linux under
>>> Fusion) I'd like to see the configuration apps be universal (Java?) or
>>> something cross platform. But I realize you can't fight city hall. So
>>> I'll always have Fusion for a small handful of apps (Mapwel, Dude,
>>> WinBox).
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
>>>
>>>> Josh, you are correct we are not the same person.  I live in a world
>>>> that windows is operated on 90% on all business computers.  I don't
live
>>>> in a world of nirvana that I can use just linux and life is good.
>>>> Besides if I was programming an app that I wanted to reach the majority
>>>> of computers why would I program for just linux.  I would program for
>>>> the standard.  More to the point, my review was not to hack the OS of
>>>> the computer the software needed to be installed on it, it was for the
>>>> equipment.  I don't feel your comments help anyone and put a shadow
over
>>>> a good product.
>>>>
>>>> The RadWin 2000 product is easy to configure but as Josh has pointed
out
>>>> you must use a windows computer to configure it.
>>>>
>>>> Steve Barnes
>>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:27 PM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
>>>>
>>>>> Software easy to use
>>>> Is this the Windows only RadWin stuff still?  Not sure how in the world
>>>> you
>>>> could call that thing easy to use, but we are not the same person.
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>>>> --- Albert Einstein
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Since we are giving recommendations I just had a RadWin 2000 FDX Link
>>>>> put
>>>>> up and with 2- 2ft FDX PacWireless Dishes.  The Link is 18.2 miles.
-62
>>>>> both
>>>>> ends.  Can push 42 Mbps FDX using TCP Bandwidth test on Mtiks on both
>>>>> ends.
>>>>> Link extremely stable <$4000. Software easy to use. Radios so easy to
>>>>> setup
>>>>> I called Tech support and asked what I forgot.  Very happy.  Replaced
>>>>> frustrating StarOS FDX that gave me about 10 Mbps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve Barnes
>>>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service

Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
It was brought to my attention that I mis-understood several of the list 
comments regarding RadWin admin functionality, and I'd like to correct my 
error.

RadWin does infact have a Telnet management console, for command line 
management also..


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom DeReggi" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8


>> The RadWin 2000 product is easy to configure but as Josh has pointed out
>> you must use a windows computer to configure it.
>> I don't feel your comments help anyone and put a shadow over a good
>> product.
>
> I'm sure the RadWin is a real nice product, and that windows only is fine
> for many people.  But Josh's comment did help some people, such as myself,
> so that we can qualify whether the RadWin product is right for us. I would
> have been pissed if I ordered a $3k-$5k radio and then learned I couldn't
> use it after it arrived, because of GUI requirements. Clearly the 
> mechanisms
> available to configure a radio are relevent.  Support for Telnet is just 
> as
> relevent as support for SNMP for example, if a WISP's Network Management
> design requires it.
> For example in our network, we insist that all critical WAN equipment that
> we use supports a command line interface, so it can be managed by our
> command line Routers, without disconnecting the radio from the router, or
> relying on a free port on the router that would need configured for a 
> laptop
> to be connected to.
>
> Having a windows only config option does not make a product bad, but it 
> does
> undisputedly limit the market potential of that product, because there are 
> a
> percentage of ISPs that rely on text console management, for many 
> reasons..
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Steve Barnes" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
>
>
>> Josh, you are correct we are not the same person.  I live in a world that
>> windows is operated on 90% on all business computers.  I don't live in a
>> world of nirvana that I can use just linux and life is good.  Besides if 
>> I
>> was programming an app that I wanted to reach the majority of computers
>> why would I program for just linux.  I would program for the standard.
>> More to the point, my review was not to hack the OS of the computer the
>> software needed to be installed on it, it was for the equipment.  I don't
>> feel your comments help anyone and put a shadow over a good product.
>>
>> The RadWin 2000 product is easy to configure but as Josh has pointed out
>> you must use a windows computer to configure it.
>>
>> Steve Barnes
>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:27 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
>>
>>>Software easy to use
>>
>> Is this the Windows only RadWin stuff still?  Not sure how in the world
>> you
>> could call that thing easy to use, but we are not the same person.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>> --- Albert Einstein
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>>
>>> Since we are giving recommendations I just had a RadWin 2000 FDX Link 
>>> put
>>> up and with 2- 2ft FDX PacWireless Dishes.  The Link is 18.2 miles. -62
>>> both
>>> ends.  Can push 42 Mbps FDX using TCP Bandwidth test on Mtiks on both
>>> ends.
>>>  Link extremely stable <$4000. Software easy to use. Radios so easy to
>>> setup
>>> I called Tech support and asked what I forgot.  Very happy.  Replaced
>>> frustrating StarOS FDX that gave me about 10 Mbps.
>>>
>>> Steve Barnes
>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today!
>>> http://signup.wispa.org/
>>>
>>> 

Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
> The RadWin 2000 product is easy to configure but as Josh has pointed out 
> you must use a windows computer to configure it.
> I don't feel your comments help anyone and put a shadow over a good 
> product.

I'm sure the RadWin is a real nice product, and that windows only is fine 
for many people.  But Josh's comment did help some people, such as myself, 
so that we can qualify whether the RadWin product is right for us. I would 
have been pissed if I ordered a $3k-$5k radio and then learned I couldn't 
use it after it arrived, because of GUI requirements. Clearly the mechanisms 
available to configure a radio are relevent.  Support for Telnet is just as 
relevent as support for SNMP for example, if a WISP's Network Management 
design requires it.
For example in our network, we insist that all critical WAN equipment that 
we use supports a command line interface, so it can be managed by our 
command line Routers, without disconnecting the radio from the router, or 
relying on a free port on the router that would need configured for a laptop 
to be connected to.

Having a windows only config option does not make a product bad, but it does 
undisputedly limit the market potential of that product, because there are a 
percentage of ISPs that rely on text console management, for many reasons..

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Barnes" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8


> Josh, you are correct we are not the same person.  I live in a world that 
> windows is operated on 90% on all business computers.  I don't live in a 
> world of nirvana that I can use just linux and life is good.  Besides if I 
> was programming an app that I wanted to reach the majority of computers 
> why would I program for just linux.  I would program for the standard. 
> More to the point, my review was not to hack the OS of the computer the 
> software needed to be installed on it, it was for the equipment.  I don't 
> feel your comments help anyone and put a shadow over a good product.
>
> The RadWin 2000 product is easy to configure but as Josh has pointed out 
> you must use a windows computer to configure it.
>
> Steve Barnes
> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:27 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
>
>>Software easy to use
>
> Is this the Windows only RadWin stuff still?  Not sure how in the world 
> you
> could call that thing easy to use, but we are not the same person.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> --- Albert Einstein
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>
>> Since we are giving recommendations I just had a RadWin 2000 FDX Link put
>> up and with 2- 2ft FDX PacWireless Dishes.  The Link is 18.2 miles. -62 
>> both
>> ends.  Can push 42 Mbps FDX using TCP Bandwidth test on Mtiks on both 
>> ends.
>>  Link extremely stable <$4000. Software easy to use. Radios so easy to 
>> setup
>> I called Tech support and asked what I forgot.  Very happy.  Replaced
>> frustrating StarOS FDX that gave me about 10 Mbps.
>>
>> Steve Barnes
>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> WISPA Wants You! Join today!
>> http://signup.wispa.org/
>>
>> 
>>
>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
>>
>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>>
>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
>>
>
>
> 
> WISPA Wants You! Join today!
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>
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>
> Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
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Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-24 Thread Josh Luthman
Also keep in mind someone said they bricked it while using Vista.  I
expect 7 to work as well if not better then Vista.

I never did try WINE, but an XP VM guest works.

My remark was more suggesting I do not like the menu system or layout.
 I found that some commands needed issued multiple times and it seemed
awfully confusing when trying to set up.  I would like to see a
spectrum analyzer and some basic values on link quality.

On 11/24/09, Patrick Shoemaker  wrote:
> Yes. Most importantly, in a pinch when you've just run over your Windows
> laptop with the truck on the way to the tower site, or need to make
> changes through a telnet session from a router, or have only your
> blackberry/iphone with you, etc., command line / HTTP configuration is a
> lifesaver.
>
>
> Patrick Shoemaker
> Vector Data Systems LLC
> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
> office: (301) 358-1690 x36
> http://www.vectordatasystems.com
>
>
> Kevin Neal wrote:
>> I would rather see a web or command line instead of anything you have
>> to install.  OS independent then, as long as they don't write it
>> specifically for IE :(
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:00 AM,   wrote:
>>> As a Mac OS X/Windows/Linux user (OS X natively and Windows, Linux under
>>> Fusion) I'd like to see the configuration apps be universal (Java?) or
>>> something cross platform. But I realize you can't fight city hall. So
>>> I'll always have Fusion for a small handful of apps (Mapwel, Dude,
>>> WinBox).
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
>>>
>>>> Josh, you are correct we are not the same person.  I live in a world
>>>> that windows is operated on 90% on all business computers.  I don't live
>>>> in a world of nirvana that I can use just linux and life is good.
>>>> Besides if I was programming an app that I wanted to reach the majority
>>>> of computers why would I program for just linux.  I would program for
>>>> the standard.  More to the point, my review was not to hack the OS of
>>>> the computer the software needed to be installed on it, it was for the
>>>> equipment.  I don't feel your comments help anyone and put a shadow over
>>>> a good product.
>>>>
>>>> The RadWin 2000 product is easy to configure but as Josh has pointed out
>>>> you must use a windows computer to configure it.
>>>>
>>>> Steve Barnes
>>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:27 PM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
>>>>
>>>>> Software easy to use
>>>> Is this the Windows only RadWin stuff still?  Not sure how in the world
>>>> you
>>>> could call that thing easy to use, but we are not the same person.
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>>>> --- Albert Einstein
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Since we are giving recommendations I just had a RadWin 2000 FDX Link
>>>>> put
>>>>> up and with 2- 2ft FDX PacWireless Dishes.  The Link is 18.2 miles. -62
>>>>> both
>>>>> ends.  Can push 42 Mbps FDX using TCP Bandwidth test on Mtiks on both
>>>>> ends.
>>>>> Link extremely stable <$4000. Software easy to use. Radios so easy to
>>>>> setup
>>>>> I called Tech support and asked what I forgot.  Very happy.  Replaced
>>>>> frustrating StarOS FDX that gave me about 10 Mbps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve Barnes
>>>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today!
>>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> 

Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-24 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Yes. Most importantly, in a pinch when you've just run over your Windows 
laptop with the truck on the way to the tower site, or need to make 
changes through a telnet session from a router, or have only your 
blackberry/iphone with you, etc., command line / HTTP configuration is a 
lifesaver.


Patrick Shoemaker
Vector Data Systems LLC
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
office: (301) 358-1690 x36
http://www.vectordatasystems.com


Kevin Neal wrote:
> I would rather see a web or command line instead of anything you have
> to install.  OS independent then, as long as they don't write it
> specifically for IE :(
> 
> -Kevin
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:00 AM,   wrote:
>> As a Mac OS X/Windows/Linux user (OS X natively and Windows, Linux under 
>> Fusion) I'd like to see the configuration apps be universal (Java?) or 
>> something cross platform. But I realize you can't fight city hall. So I'll 
>> always have Fusion for a small handful of apps (Mapwel, Dude, WinBox).
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
>>
>>> Josh, you are correct we are not the same person.  I live in a world that 
>>> windows is operated on 90% on all business computers.  I don't live in a 
>>> world of nirvana that I can use just linux and life is good.  Besides if I 
>>> was programming an app that I wanted to reach the majority of computers why 
>>> would I program for just linux.  I would program for the standard.  More to 
>>> the point, my review was not to hack the OS of the computer the software 
>>> needed to be installed on it, it was for the equipment.  I don't feel your 
>>> comments help anyone and put a shadow over a good product.
>>>
>>> The RadWin 2000 product is easy to configure but as Josh has pointed out 
>>> you must use a windows computer to configure it.
>>>
>>> Steve Barnes
>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:27 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
>>>
>>>> Software easy to use
>>> Is this the Windows only RadWin stuff still?  Not sure how in the world you
>>> could call that thing easy to use, but we are not the same person.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>>> --- Albert Einstein
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since we are giving recommendations I just had a RadWin 2000 FDX Link put
>>>> up and with 2- 2ft FDX PacWireless Dishes.  The Link is 18.2 miles. -62 
>>>> both
>>>> ends.  Can push 42 Mbps FDX using TCP Bandwidth test on Mtiks on both ends.
>>>> Link extremely stable <$4000. Software easy to use. Radios so easy to setup
>>>> I called Tech support and asked what I forgot.  Very happy.  Replaced
>>>> frustrating StarOS FDX that gave me about 10 Mbps.
>>>>
>>>> Steve Barnes
>>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today!
>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
>>>>
>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>>>>
>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
>>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today!
>>> http://signup.wispa.org/
>>> 
>>>
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>>>
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Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-24 Thread Kevin Neal
I would rather see a web or command line instead of anything you have
to install.  OS independent then, as long as they don't write it
specifically for IE :(

-Kevin


On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:00 AM,   wrote:
> As a Mac OS X/Windows/Linux user (OS X natively and Windows, Linux under 
> Fusion) I'd like to see the configuration apps be universal (Java?) or 
> something cross platform. But I realize you can't fight city hall. So I'll 
> always have Fusion for a small handful of apps (Mapwel, Dude, WinBox).
>
> Greg
>
> On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
>
>> Josh, you are correct we are not the same person.  I live in a world that 
>> windows is operated on 90% on all business computers.  I don't live in a 
>> world of nirvana that I can use just linux and life is good.  Besides if I 
>> was programming an app that I wanted to reach the majority of computers why 
>> would I program for just linux.  I would program for the standard.  More to 
>> the point, my review was not to hack the OS of the computer the software 
>> needed to be installed on it, it was for the equipment.  I don't feel your 
>> comments help anyone and put a shadow over a good product.
>>
>> The RadWin 2000 product is easy to configure but as Josh has pointed out you 
>> must use a windows computer to configure it.
>>
>> Steve Barnes
>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:27 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
>>
>>> Software easy to use
>>
>> Is this the Windows only RadWin stuff still?  Not sure how in the world you
>> could call that thing easy to use, but we are not the same person.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>> --- Albert Einstein
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>>
>>> Since we are giving recommendations I just had a RadWin 2000 FDX Link put
>>> up and with 2- 2ft FDX PacWireless Dishes.  The Link is 18.2 miles. -62 both
>>> ends.  Can push 42 Mbps FDX using TCP Bandwidth test on Mtiks on both ends.
>>> Link extremely stable <$4000. Software easy to use. Radios so easy to setup
>>> I called Tech support and asked what I forgot.  Very happy.  Replaced
>>> frustrating StarOS FDX that gave me about 10 Mbps.
>>>
>>> Steve Barnes
>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-24 Thread os10rules
As a Mac OS X/Windows/Linux user (OS X natively and Windows, Linux under 
Fusion) I'd like to see the configuration apps be universal (Java?) or 
something cross platform. But I realize you can't fight city hall. So I'll 
always have Fusion for a small handful of apps (Mapwel, Dude, WinBox).

Greg

On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:

> Josh, you are correct we are not the same person.  I live in a world that 
> windows is operated on 90% on all business computers.  I don't live in a 
> world of nirvana that I can use just linux and life is good.  Besides if I 
> was programming an app that I wanted to reach the majority of computers why 
> would I program for just linux.  I would program for the standard.  More to 
> the point, my review was not to hack the OS of the computer the software 
> needed to be installed on it, it was for the equipment.  I don't feel your 
> comments help anyone and put a shadow over a good product. 
> 
> The RadWin 2000 product is easy to configure but as Josh has pointed out you 
> must use a windows computer to configure it.
> 
> Steve Barnes
> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:27 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
> 
>> Software easy to use
> 
> Is this the Windows only RadWin stuff still?  Not sure how in the world you
> could call that thing easy to use, but we are not the same person.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> --- Albert Einstein
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
> 
>> Since we are giving recommendations I just had a RadWin 2000 FDX Link put
>> up and with 2- 2ft FDX PacWireless Dishes.  The Link is 18.2 miles. -62 both
>> ends.  Can push 42 Mbps FDX using TCP Bandwidth test on Mtiks on both ends.
>> Link extremely stable <$4000. Software easy to use. Radios so easy to setup
>> I called Tech support and asked what I forgot.  Very happy.  Replaced
>> frustrating StarOS FDX that gave me about 10 Mbps.
>> 
>> Steve Barnes
>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-24 Thread Scott Reed
Probably runs in WINE.  If so, anyone can use it.

Steve Barnes wrote:
> Josh, you are correct we are not the same person.  I live in a world that 
> windows is operated on 90% on all business computers.  I don't live in a 
> world of nirvana that I can use just linux and life is good.  Besides if I 
> was programming an app that I wanted to reach the majority of computers why 
> would I program for just linux.  I would program for the standard.  More to 
> the point, my review was not to hack the OS of the computer the software 
> needed to be installed on it, it was for the equipment.  I don't feel your 
> comments help anyone and put a shadow over a good product. 
>
> The RadWin 2000 product is easy to configure but as Josh has pointed out you 
> must use a windows computer to configure it.
>
> Steve Barnes
> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:27 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
>
>   
>> Software easy to use
>> 
>
> Is this the Windows only RadWin stuff still?  Not sure how in the world you
> could call that thing easy to use, but we are not the same person.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> --- Albert Einstein
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>
>   
>> Since we are giving recommendations I just had a RadWin 2000 FDX Link put
>> up and with 2- 2ft FDX PacWireless Dishes.  The Link is 18.2 miles. -62 both
>> ends.  Can push 42 Mbps FDX using TCP Bandwidth test on Mtiks on both ends.
>>  Link extremely stable <$4000. Software easy to use. Radios so easy to setup
>> I called Tech support and asked what I forgot.  Very happy.  Replaced
>> frustrating StarOS FDX that gave me about 10 Mbps.
>>
>> Steve Barnes
>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
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Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-24 Thread Steve Barnes
Josh, you are correct we are not the same person.  I live in a world that 
windows is operated on 90% on all business computers.  I don't live in a world 
of nirvana that I can use just linux and life is good.  Besides if I was 
programming an app that I wanted to reach the majority of computers why would I 
program for just linux.  I would program for the standard.  More to the point, 
my review was not to hack the OS of the computer the software needed to be 
installed on it, it was for the equipment.  I don't feel your comments help 
anyone and put a shadow over a good product. 

The RadWin 2000 product is easy to configure but as Josh has pointed out you 
must use a windows computer to configure it.

Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

>Software easy to use

Is this the Windows only RadWin stuff still?  Not sure how in the world you
could call that thing easy to use, but we are not the same person.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
--- Albert Einstein


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

> Since we are giving recommendations I just had a RadWin 2000 FDX Link put
> up and with 2- 2ft FDX PacWireless Dishes.  The Link is 18.2 miles. -62 both
> ends.  Can push 42 Mbps FDX using TCP Bandwidth test on Mtiks on both ends.
>  Link extremely stable <$4000. Software easy to use. Radios so easy to setup
> I called Tech support and asked what I forgot.  Very happy.  Replaced
> frustrating StarOS FDX that gave me about 10 Mbps.
>
> Steve Barnes
> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-24 Thread 3-dB Networks
Glad to hear it worked for you Steve!

Daniel White
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http://www.3dbnetworks.com


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Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

Since we are giving recommendations I just had a RadWin 2000 FDX Link put up
and with 2- 2ft FDX PacWireless Dishes.  The Link is 18.2 miles. -62 both
ends.  Can push 42 Mbps FDX using TCP Bandwidth test on Mtiks on both ends.
Link extremely stable <$4000. Software easy to use. Radios so easy to setup
I called Tech support and asked what I forgot.  Very happy.  Replaced
frustrating StarOS FDX that gave me about 10 Mbps. 

Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service




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Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-23 Thread Josh Luthman
>Software easy to use

Is this the Windows only RadWin stuff still?  Not sure how in the world you
could call that thing easy to use, but we are not the same person.

Josh Luthman
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On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

> Since we are giving recommendations I just had a RadWin 2000 FDX Link put
> up and with 2- 2ft FDX PacWireless Dishes.  The Link is 18.2 miles. -62 both
> ends.  Can push 42 Mbps FDX using TCP Bandwidth test on Mtiks on both ends.
>  Link extremely stable <$4000. Software easy to use. Radios so easy to setup
> I called Tech support and asked what I forgot.  Very happy.  Replaced
> frustrating StarOS FDX that gave me about 10 Mbps.
>
> Steve Barnes
> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
>
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