Hello Jeromie,

First, I'm with Mark on this issue. This form sucks lemons.

But on to the article, I see no reason why I need to submit to a city
if I wish to send video over my system. I am an information packet
sending service. What business is it of theirs? Who cares what is in
each packet.

 The whole "franchise" thing, IMNSHO, should be a dead issue (like telco
 monopolies should be) since many  companies NOW want to build out systems.
  Back in 1960whatever I can  see why a franchise would have been needed
  to help the cable company bring in video. But those days are over.

 If I stream video who cares...... Oh they want a cut of the business
 but not provide one iota of risk or effort to make it work. I think
 that is the definition of parasite. A better solution would have
 muni's building open systems that anyone can access, who cares what
info is being sent to the customer.

 Hell, I want to build a head end just to be able to stream 100 channels of
 video to my customers. Sheesh its just MTV, go shoot me......


Barry



Wednesday, August 24, 2005, 1:29:10 PM, you wrote:

JR> Under the current FCC chairman i have to agree.

JR> 
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/telecom/2005-08-22-telecom-usat_x.htm?POE=MONISVA

JR> The only thing i get from that is they now want to alter the franchise
JR> process to allow telcos to do something
JR> they already can and know exactly how to do. Add this to the recent
JR> ruling that cable co's do not need to
JR> share and you got people on a grass knoll. I agree with Mark that we are
JR> being setup for a fall.

JR> Jeromie


JR> Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

>>I'm quite sure it's only real purpose is finding out where all of us are,
>>and where we are  and who we are so we can be easily taxed and regulated.
>>
>>Like Congress gives a rip about small business?    Only so as it gives them
>>numbers to pontificate about.
>>
>>
>>North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
>>personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
>>sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
>>Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>-
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:38 AM
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>>In this particular case it's actually a very good thing Mark.
>>>
>>>Part of what's kept us at arm's length in a number of venues is the lack
>>>    
>>>
>>of
>>  
>>
>>>numbers.  The FCC is trying to get an accurate count and this was an
>>>existing system for doing just that.
>>>
>>>Marlon
>>>(509) 982-2181                                   Equipment sales
>>>(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)                    Consulting services
>>>42846865 (icq)                                    And I run my own wisp!
>>>64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
>>>www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
>>>www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:41 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477
>>>
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>>While you're at it, could you ask them what thier regulatory power comes
>>>>from?   How can they impose fines on a non-regulated business, that does
>>>>not
>>>>require thier action to exist?
>>>>
>>>>Further, what's the justification in the first place?   I think this is
>>>>the
>>>>camel's nose and if we don't stand up and tell them to shove off, we'll
>>>>      
>>>>
>>be
>>  
>>
>>>>steamrollered into non-existence real fast.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
>>>>personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
>>>>sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
>>>>Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>    
>>>
>>--
>>  
>>
>>>>-
>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 8:35 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>>Did you understand 90% of it?  We skipped a ton.  And I sent a note to
>>>>>the
>>>>>FCC asking if a more isp centric form could be created.
>>>>>
>>>>>laters,
>>>>>Marlon
>>>>>(509) 982-2181                                   Equipment sales
>>>>>(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)                    Consulting services
>>>>>42846865 (icq)                                    And I run my own
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>wisp!
>>  
>>
>>>>>64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
>>>>>www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
>>>>>www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>To: <wireless@wispa.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>>>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:00 PM
>>>>>Subject: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>>For those of you in the states...remember that you have to file form
>>>>>>477
>>>>>>with the FCC by September 1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here is a link to the form:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html#477
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Took me about 30 minutes to get mine done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Matt Larsen
>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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