RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Airespace APs with AIrwave AMP Management

2006-05-17 Thread Frank Bulk
John:

Are you going to run the WiSMs on the Cat65K?  Those support 300 APs, and so
two chassis could handle 10 blades. 

According to Cisco's web page, every WCS can handle at 1500 APs, so I'm not
sure where you get the 100 number.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/ps6305/products_qanda_item0900a
ecd802570dc.shtml
I wasn't able to find a number for WCS and location.  Perhaps when they're
paired a new upper limit comes into play?

With a deployment as large as your own, I would recommend that you ask Cisco
for a few other .edu references (UBC comes to mind), and find out how
they're doing it.  And I would think that AirWave would let you trial their
product after you have a few hundred APs deployed.

Regards,

Frank

-Original Message-
From: John Watters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:20 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Airespace APs with AIrwave AMP Management

I am preparing to rollout a large deployment of Cisco Airespace APs to cover
our entire 1,000 acre campus with 120+ buildings, inside and out.
My estimate of the number of APs needed approaches 3,000. My Cisco folks
recommend using their WCS product along with their Location Appliances.
Since each pair of these will only handle up to 100 APs each, that is lot of
money to be spent on WCS+Location Appliance pairs. My Airwave tech person
visited yesterday and said that their AMP product (which I already have
managing my fat APs) can easily take the place of the Cisco
WCS+Location Appliance pairs. He went on to say that Cisco even
recommends the Airwave management solution for "large deployments".

My questions to the list are:

1) Is the Airwave person correct that the AMP product can do all (or almost
all) of what the Cisco WCS+Location Appliance pairs do when managing an
Airespace environment?

2) Is anyone running an Airspace deployment anywhere close to this size (in
a single location) and satisfactorily using the Airwave AMP product instead
of the Cisco WCS+Location Appliance pairs to manage it?

Thanks.
  



John Watters  UA: Office of Information Technology  205-348-3992

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Airespace APs with AIrwave AMP Management

2006-05-17 Thread Steve Fletty
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From: "John Watters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Airespace APs with AIrwave AMP Management



My questions to the list are:

1) Is the Airwave person correct that the AMP product can do all (or
almost all) of what the Cisco WCS+Location Appliance pairs do when
managing an Airespace environment?


No, I would say that person is not correct.

We demoed AMP. It has nowhere near the mapping features of WCS. Unless 
Airwave has dramatically improved over the last 6 months.


I ran AMP for about a month in our demo. It was OK.

I've only played with WCS a bit, but in my book it is more feature rich.

The University of Wisconsin Madison used AMP in a large deployment, but 
they've got the fat Ciscos, not the LWAPPs.


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Steve Fletty
Network Engineer
University of Minnesota 


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Cisco Airespace APs with AIrwave AMP Management

2006-05-17 Thread John Watters
I am preparing to rollout a large deployment of Cisco Airespace APs to
cover our entire 1,000 acre campus with 120+ buildings, inside and out.
My estimate of the number of APs needed approaches 3,000. My Cisco folks
recommend using their WCS product along with their Location Appliances.
Since each pair of these will only handle up to 100 APs each, that is
lot of money to be spent on WCS+Location Appliance pairs. My Airwave
tech person visited yesterday and said that their AMP product (which I
already have managing my fat APs) can easily take the place of the Cisco
WCS+Location Appliance pairs. He went on to say that Cisco even
recommends the Airwave management solution for "large deployments".

My questions to the list are:

1) Is the Airwave person correct that the AMP product can do all (or
almost all) of what the Cisco WCS+Location Appliance pairs do when
managing an Airespace environment?

2) Is anyone running an Airspace deployment anywhere close to this size
(in a single location) and satisfactorily using the Airwave AMP product
instead of the Cisco WCS+Location Appliance pairs to manage it?

Thanks.
  



John Watters  UA: Office of Information Technology  205-348-3992

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