RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n tied to 802.3at
Good points, Philippe. For those organizations that want to be bleeding edge, I don't think PoE concerns are going to hold them back. Every vendor has a way to address them today in a way that's not a show-stopper. Has anyone heard from Cisco, Extreme, Foundry, HP, etc. on when 802.3at switches/blades will be available? Which 802.11n AP supports Etherchannel? It's my understanding that any vendor who has a second Ethernet port on their AP is using it exclusively for PoE (Trapeze's AP may be the exception). Frank -Original Message- From: Philippe Hanset [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:35 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n tied to 802.3at Following the trail of discussion about 802.11n, I wouldn't be buying 802.11n before 802.3at (AKA Power over Ethernet PLUS) gears are on the market. By then, 802.11n vendors should have only one Ethernet port to the AP. One port will bring savings on PoE injectors, Cabling, and even switchports (if you were planning to etherchannel those two 100 Mbps ports to one AP). After all, a 48 ports 10/100/1000 switch is only 50% more expensive than a 10/100 (in the Cisco world), one more reason to only have one cable from the switch to the AP! Last thing: According to a few websites, 802.3at will work over regular cat5. Best, Philippe Hanset University of Tennessee ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] idEngines AAA server
Mike, We demoed the product last week and we were very impressed. In fact, the amount of features and things you can do with it were actually overwhelming. I'm interested to hear how you are using it and exactly what features you've found helpful that other products don't have. In particular, I liked the guest manager because it allows you to provide an interface to your users to be able to create guest accounts and also manage them. We currently have an application that we wrote in-house where our staff and faculty can go to to create guest accounts for up to seven days. The challenge is that among our staff and faculty, there are those that have special needs and need to be able to create accounts for longer than 7 days, change passwords, that kind of thing. I know this is not available now, but I was told that with guest manager you will be able to provide this type of access. In our case, we authenticate users via AD. So if and when this feature becomes available, we should be able to create an AD group where we can add the users with special needs. The other reason why we are interested in idEngines is because if you create guest accounts using Cisco's Lobby Ambassador (if you are familiar with WCS), those accounts are only valid for WLANs with WebAuth. We've been having to pull all kinds of tricks to be able to create accounts for our secure PEAP WLAN, our guest WebAuth WLAN, and our wired LAN. It would be nice to have one interface that does it all. Thanks, -Hector -Original Message- From: King, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:39 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] idEngines AAA server We have it here. You may contact me on or off list. (We also have the Autoconnect product, and the Guest Manager) Mike -Original Message- From: Hector J Rios [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:33 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] idEngines AAA server This is for those of you that are familiar with idEngines' AAA server, Ignition Server. We are considering this product to replace our Cisco ACS servers. From what I've seen so far, the Ignition Server seems much more granular and feature-rich. One of the features that we liked the most is their Guest manager. Is there anybody that is currently using this product? I'd be interested to hear what you think about it. Thanks Hector Rios Telecommunications Analyst, NI LSU Information Technology Services ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
802.11n tied to 802.3at
Following the trail of discussion about 802.11n, I wouldn't be buying 802.11n before 802.3at (AKA Power over Ethernet PLUS) gears are on the market. By then, 802.11n vendors should have only one Ethernet port to the AP. One port will bring savings on PoE injectors, Cabling, and even switchports (if you were planning to etherchannel those two 100 Mbps ports to one AP). After all, a 48 ports 10/100/1000 switch is only 50% more expensive than a 10/100 (in the Cisco world), one more reason to only have one cable from the switch to the AP! Last thing: According to a few websites, 802.3at will work over regular cat5. Best, Philippe Hanset University of Tennessee ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] idEngines AAA server
The University of Texas at Tyler would also be interested. I would suggest posting to the list so that all us us don't have to ask individually about this. Michael Vick Manager Campus Computing Services The University of Texas at Tyler (903) 566-7357 Lee H Badman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/15/2007 09:04 AM Please respond to The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv To WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU cc Subject Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] idEngines AAA server If anything can be discussed on-list, Syracuse University is also interested. Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 -Original Message- From: King, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:39 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] idEngines AAA server We have it here. You may contact me on or off list. (We also have the Autoconnect product, and the Guest Manager) Mike -Original Message- From: Hector J Rios [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:33 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] idEngines AAA server This is for those of you that are familiar with idEngines' AAA server, Ignition Server. We are considering this product to replace our Cisco ACS servers. From what I've seen so far, the Ignition Server seems much more granular and feature-rich. One of the features that we liked the most is their Guest manager. Is there anybody that is currently using this product? I'd be interested to hear what you think about it. Thanks Hector Rios Telecommunications Analyst, NI LSU Information Technology Services ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] idEngines AAA server
If anything can be discussed on-list, Syracuse University is also interested. Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 -Original Message- From: King, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:39 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] idEngines AAA server We have it here. You may contact me on or off list. (We also have the Autoconnect product, and the Guest Manager) Mike -Original Message- From: Hector J Rios [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:33 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] idEngines AAA server This is for those of you that are familiar with idEngines' AAA server, Ignition Server. We are considering this product to replace our Cisco ACS servers. From what I've seen so far, the Ignition Server seems much more granular and feature-rich. One of the features that we liked the most is their Guest manager. Is there anybody that is currently using this product? I'd be interested to hear what you think about it. Thanks Hector Rios Telecommunications Analyst, NI LSU Information Technology Services ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] idEngines AAA server
We have it here. You may contact me on or off list. (We also have the Autoconnect product, and the Guest Manager) Mike -Original Message- From: Hector J Rios [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:33 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] idEngines AAA server This is for those of you that are familiar with idEngines' AAA server, Ignition Server. We are considering this product to replace our Cisco ACS servers. From what I've seen so far, the Ignition Server seems much more granular and feature-rich. One of the features that we liked the most is their Guest manager. Is there anybody that is currently using this product? I'd be interested to hear what you think about it. Thanks Hector Rios Telecommunications Analyst, NI LSU Information Technology Services ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
idEngines AAA server
This is for those of you that are familiar with idEngines' AAA server, Ignition Server. We are considering this product to replace our Cisco ACS servers. From what I've seen so far, the Ignition Server seems much more granular and feature-rich. One of the features that we liked the most is their Guest manager. Is there anybody that is currently using this product? I'd be interested to hear what you think about it. Thanks Hector Rios Telecommunications Analyst, NI LSU Information Technology Services ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
