Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Mac issues

2008-03-05 Thread Angela K Hollman
Was this wireless driver update delivered as part of a Mac OS Update? Or 
do you have to go to the Mac site to get the update?

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Angela K. Hollman
Information Technology Services
Network Analyst
(308)865-8176



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There is currently no way to change the preferred band with the Apple 
supplicant (at the client end ? although you can play tricks at the BSS to 
force them onto .11a).  Although, there is one old software package that 
can do it on older systems (not likely this is of any help and isn?t a 
free option).
 
The supplicant scans both frequencies, looking for the best SNR 
characteristics. 
 
Your experience isn?t unusual as most .11a APs don?t provide a hot enough 
signal to beat the .11bg SNR offered.
 
In most of our companies implementation we see the opposite, but is likely 
due to our higher RSSI on .11a channels than seen in most all legacy 
implementations.  Not surprising as we use a high gain antenna. Not a 
sales pitch here ? just wanted to point out that different infrastructures 
will produce different behaviors.
 
Any survey software should allow you to see the SNR characteristics for 
your area ? this should give you a hint of what?s going on with the 
supplicants on your notebooks.
 
On 2/12 Apple delivered an update to Leopard 10.5?s wireless drivers. 
After the update you should see the revs below.
 
1.  Atheros ? Wireless Card Firmware Update should be at: 1.3.2
2.  Broadcom ? Wireless Card Firmware Update should be at: Broadcom 
BCM43XX 1.0 (4.170.46.3)
3.  Intel ? Didn?t have one at the time of this writing.
 
You might want to try this update as the drivers solve some issues they 
had with MAC clients slowing their connection speeds over time and not 
moving to higher speeds as conditions improved.  You may also find this 
changes your supplicant?s behavior.
 
 Jon
303-808-2666
 
...THE ONLY TRUE WIRELESS SWITCH...the Air is the Network...
 
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I am new to Mac. Anyone by chance knows Leopard on MacBook or Pro (with 
802.11a/b/g/n card) wireless preference: does it try a/n first? or b/g/n 
first? and is there any way to change it? thanks in advance. 

We have 802.11a and b/g available with same SSID, and find Leopards only 
connecting to b/g, not a. 

David Wang, Networking Services,CCS
www.uoguelph.ca 519-824-4120 x52046


Jon Freeman wrote: 
Fyi - the APs require a fix as well, only Apple Airports and one other AP 
vendor have made the ESS fixes that I am aware of.

Regards,
Jon
303-808-2666


 -Original Message-
From:   Lee H Badman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:48 AM Pacific Standard Time
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject:Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Mac issues

Thanks, Phil. I knew 10.5.2 was coming, just didn't realize it was
actually here. It is frustrating that something that's 190 MB in size
(the 10.5.2 patch) has so little real information available on it. I
dig around on several Mac forums to no avail, and find Apple's site to
be almost worthless in this respect- does anyone know where any real
detail on Mac updates might be available?

Also- am seeing just as many trouble reports as fixes attributed to
10.5.2 during random searches- hopefully it really does help and not set
us back even further.

Lee



From: Phil Trivilino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Mac issues

Lee
We have seen lots of failure to authenticate to our Cisco LWAPP system
on startup by MAC OSX 10.5 - the recent release of 10.5.2 seems to have
fixed that.  Other MAC users across campus report improvements in
wireless functionality on their Macs since the update.  Sorry I do not
have more specific information.

Phil

From: Lee H Badman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Mac issues

2008-03-05 Thread Jon Freeman
It was part of the MAC OS update.

 

 Jon

303-808-2666

 

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Was this wireless driver update delivered as part of a Mac OS Update? Or
do you have to go to the Mac site to get the update? 

_
Angela K. Hollman
Information Technology Services
Network Analyst
(308)865-8176 



Jon Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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03/05/2008 09:46 AM 

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There is currently no way to change the preferred band with the Apple
supplicant (at the client end - although you can play tricks at the BSS
to force them onto .11a).  Although, there is one old software package
that can do it on older systems (not likely this is of any help and
isn't a free option). 
  
The supplicant scans both frequencies, looking for the best SNR
characteristics.   
  
Your experience isn't unusual as most .11a APs don't provide a hot
enough signal to beat the .11bg SNR offered. 
  
In most of our companies implementation we see the opposite, but is
likely due to our higher RSSI on .11a channels than seen in most all
legacy implementations.  Not surprising as we use a high gain antenna.
Not a sales pitch here - just wanted to point out that different
infrastructures will produce different behaviors. 
  
Any survey software should allow you to see the SNR characteristics for
your area - this should give you a hint of what's going on with the
supplicants on your notebooks. 
  
On 2/12 Apple delivered an update to Leopard 10.5's wireless drivers.
After the update you should see the revs below. 
  
1.Atheros - Wireless Card Firmware Update should be at: 1.3.2 
2.Broadcom - Wireless Card Firmware Update should be at:
Broadcom BCM43XX 1.0 (4.170.46.3) 
3.Intel - Didn't have one at the time of this writing. 
  
You might want to try this update as the drivers solve some issues they
had with MAC clients slowing their connection speeds over time and not
moving to higher speeds as conditions improved.  You may also find this
changes your supplicant's behavior. 
  
 Jon 
303-808-2666 
  
...THE ONLY TRUE WIRELESS SWITCH...the Air is the Network... 
  
This electronic message transmission contains information from the
Company that may be proprietary, confidential and/or privileged. The
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
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UoG CCS
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 8:32 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Mac issues 
  
I am new to Mac. Anyone by chance knows Leopard on MacBook or Pro (with
802.11a/b/g/n card) wireless preference: does it try a/n first? or b/g/n
first? and is there any way to change it? thanks in advance. 

We have 802.11a and b/g available with same SSID, and find Leopards only
connecting to b/g, not a. 

David Wang, Networking Services,CCS 
www.uoguelph.ca http://www.uoguelph.ca/  519-824-4120 x52046 


Jon Freeman wrote: 

Fyi - the APs require a fix as well, only Apple Airports and one other
AP vendor have made the ESS fixes that I am aware of.

Regards,
Jon
303-808-2666


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Subject:Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Mac issues

Thanks, Phil. I knew 10.5.2 was coming, just didn't realize it was
actually here. It is frustrating that something