RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC DHCP Proxy

2009-10-29 Thread Lee H Badman
Hi Oliver-

With 5.2.193 code and DHCP proxy enabled, we had a fairly substantial issue at 
work causing trouble. I've not heard of other cases like ours, so I don't want 
to add too much confusion to the mix- but will certainly provide details off 
list if anyone is curious.

To answer your other questions- we have ran with the proxy on since initial 
system rollout because it was the default and was recommended. It does provide 
some protection of your DHCP servers by obscuring them behind a virtual IP 
address, and we have had no issues with it prior to 5.2.193. 

If you really don't need it, don't use it.

-Lee

Lee H. Badman
Wireless/Network Engineer
Information Technology and Services
Syracuse University
315 443-3003
 
 

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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC DHCP Proxy

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Hi folks,

Lee H Badman wrote:
 do you have the DHCP proxy function enabled?

So far we've had the DHCP proxy function disabled on our Cisco
wireless controllers. This is the global option, it's not
configurable per WLAN/Dynamic Interface (that I can tell, at least).

Lee mentioning this in the other thread intrigued me. What are
people's experiences and opinions of this feature? Are there
benefits to either having DHCP proxy off, or on?

regards,
oliver.
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC DHCP Proxy

2009-10-29 Thread Pham, Loc
 
   Hi Lee-

   Thanks for the tip: we are on a pre 5.2.193 and do see dhcp proxy was 
currently enable as default setting .

   So somehow during upgrade from 4.2.x. to 5.2.193 or better, something change 
that causes issue that need dhcp proxy to disable, I am hearing you correctly ? 
If you have to go off-list, please unicast.

   We are testing 6.x. and probably migrate directly to 6.x when thing stable. 
But I am also looking at 5.2 for a more conservative move.

  Best Regards,
 
Loc Pham, # 17030 , office 415-353-4492
IT Enterprise Security  Services, UCSF Medical Center
Where self-healing network is building on .

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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:35 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC DHCP Proxy

Hi Oliver-

With 5.2.193 code and DHCP proxy enabled, we had a fairly substantial issue at 
work causing trouble. I've not heard of other cases like ours, so I don't want 
to add too much confusion to the mix- but will certainly provide details off 
list if anyone is curious.

To answer your other questions- we have ran with the proxy on since initial 
system rollout because it was the default and was recommended. It does provide 
some protection of your DHCP servers by obscuring them behind a virtual IP 
address, and we have had no issues with it prior to 5.2.193. 

If you really don't need it, don't use it.

-Lee

Lee H. Badman
Wireless/Network Engineer
Information Technology and Services
Syracuse University
315 443-3003
 
 

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[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Oliver Gorwits
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:53 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC DHCP Proxy

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Hi folks,

Lee H Badman wrote:
 do you have the DHCP proxy function enabled?

So far we've had the DHCP proxy function disabled on our Cisco wireless 
controllers. This is the global option, it's not configurable per WLAN/Dynamic 
Interface (that I can tell, at least).

Lee mentioning this in the other thread intrigued me. What are people's 
experiences and opinions of this feature? Are there benefits to either having 
DHCP proxy off, or on?

regards,
oliver.
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-assigned IP on Macs

2009-10-29 Thread Linchuan Yang
We encountered the same issue. However, not all snow leopard clients have
this problem. Some of them work well; some of them could not get IP address
from DHCP server occasionally; and some of them could not get IP address for
the whole day. We contacted with Apple, they said they noticed this problem,
and a new patch will be published in the middle or end of November.

Linchuan Yang
Wireless Networking Analyst
Network Assessment and Integration,
IITS-Concordia University
Tel: (514)848-2424 ext. 7664


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[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Croome
Sent: October 28, 2009 6:26 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-assigned IP on Macs

Update for my uni's problem.

Our engineers are 100% convinced it's a MAC OS issue.  We are not sure when
the problem was introduced.

When it is working we see the discover, offer, ack, in the DHCP daemon logs.
Then at a random, intermittent time the DHCP daemon will decide to stop
listening to dhcp packets being received on wireless, it logs the discover
but not the offer. 
Wireshark is showing the offers being received but the DHCP daemon doesn't
log them.
There is no difference in the contents of the DHCP offer when it is working
vs when it isn't.

We are going to escalate it to Apple, as there isn't anything else we can
see to try.

Anthony






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Sent: Friday, 16 October 2009 10:16 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-assigned IP on Macs

Has anyone gotten any approved  suggestions for how to deal with these
Apple issues from Cisco, beyond just trying things that seem to sometimes
help?

It is frustrating how the friendly and trouble-free Apple devices tend to be
the least friendly and most troubling devices on the WLAN. A little bit of
techno-irony to this:)

-Lee

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[wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Sessler
[j...@scrippscollege.edu]
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:56 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-assigned IP on Macs

In 6.0, the code for world-mode didn't make it into the controller, but I
believe it's in the AP's IOS commands, so it can be toggled but takes a
little more effort.


Jeff

 Garry Peirce  10/15/09 2:16 PM 
Perhaps I was erroneous in equating the two through a Cisco doc referencing
DTPC to world-mode.
'When you enable Dynamic Transmit Power Control (DTPC), access points add
channel and transmit power information to beacons. (On access points that
run Cisco IOS software, this feature is called world mode.)'

DTPC does appear to be CCX related, so it is likely irrelevant with regard
to the mentioned Apple/Broadcom bug.

Running 6.0.182,
'config 802.11a world-mode' is not an available option.
'config 802.11a dtpc' is.
'show 802.11a' will show the status of DTPC.

I'll inquire w/Cisco.


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 Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:51 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-assigned IP on Macs

 It's under:

 show 802.11a(or b)

 -Matt

 Bob Richman wrote:
  So, how about the show command that displays the current setting?
 
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  Actually, if you are talking about specifically world-mode it's
 under:
 
  CLI:  config 802.11a world-mode
  orconfig 802.11b world-mode
 
  -Matt
 


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