I wasn't intending to suggest a policy banning 2.4Ghz or saying that I
wanted to stop offering service in that band. Just thinking out loud of a
policy that we'd make our best effort to make 2.4Ghz work, but 5Ghz would
be the better performing more reliable networkI guess though, policy or
not that's already how things are working out due to the nature of both
bands and Rogue consumer devices.
Also I suppose short of banning 2.4Ghz, it's hard to get student's
attention to get them to buy 5Ghz capable computers, but I agree banning
2.4Ghz would cause many complaints.
Does anyone have methods that you've used that have been successful in
educating students to make the choice to spend a few extra dollars for dual
band wireless when they're purchasing a new laptop?
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 6:43 AM, Osborne, Bruce W bosbo...@liberty.eduwrote:
Banning 2.4 GHz would ban a large portion of the consumer PCs and mobile
devices and all current game consoles.
I know that would not work here. We initially only offered IPTV on 5GHz n
and had to expand the offering to 2.4GHz due to complaints from students.
Excluding game consoles would also be a very big issue here.
Bruce Osborne
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IT Network Services
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-Original Message-
From: Adam Forsyth [mailto:forsy...@luther.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: wireless printers in dorms
Has anyone declared 2.4Ghz hopeless and made a policy declaring that users
that want a working well performing wireless network connection need to
make arrangements to connect to the 5Ghz network? If a policy like that
could fly, then it would be easier to run a 5Ghz network with great
performance for all of the laptops to connect to. 2.4Ghz could become a
best effort waste land polluted by all of the printers with their rogue
ssid's, slowed down by the wii's that insist on making 802.11B connections
before they'll make 802.11G connections, interfered with by the bluetooth,
wifi-direct, etc.
Of course, I guess this is only a good idea until 5Ghz becomes the new
2.4Ghz. I suppose it's probably only a matter of time until devices like
printers have dual band radios and can cause 5Ghz problems too.
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Tom O'Donnell to...@maine.edu wrote:
I left out a couple factors... I don't know if the printers are
printing wirelessly, or that students even intend them to. They just
show up with wireless enabled, and whatever education we've done on
the subject doesn't seem to help.
Sometimes we'll find a printer and the person has a USB cable. Nope,
I'm not using wireless on my printer, just the USB. But they don't
realize the wireless is on.
We don't intend for them to work, at any rate. We prohibit it, but
going door to door hasn't worked completely. Word gets around the
dorms, and students hide their printers :)
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Tom O'Donnell
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Services University of Maine at Farmington
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On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Julian Y Koh kohs...@northwestern.edu
wrote:
On Oct 30, 2012, at 13:53 , Tom O'Donnell to...@maine.edu
wrote:
I was wondering how other schools handle wireless printers in the
dorms. This seems to be the year everyone showed up with one, and
they're causing connectivity problems in our 2.4GHz space.
How well do the printers work anyway wirelessly? Depending on the
service advertisement protocols and printing protocols used, the client
types, your authentication requirements (since most printers don't do
WPA2-Enterprise/802.1X) and your subnetting/address assignment scheme, I
wonder how successful people are at actually getting these things to work
anyway.
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Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT)
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Evanston, IL 60208
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