RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless

2014-06-13 Thread McClintic, Thomas
Wired with mDNS Snooping enabled on the required APs. Wireless is just not 
worth the hassle.

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Wired. Period.

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For the folks that have apple tvs on campus.  How are they connecting to the 
network?  Wired/wireless


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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless

2014-06-13 Thread Lee H Badman
Strictly Bluetooth

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You doing the Bluetooth discovery, or bonjour gateway?

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Wired. Period.

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For the folks that have apple tvs on campus.  How are they connecting to the 
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless

2014-06-13 Thread Kevin J. Czarnecki
We are connect them wireless only and use Aruba AirGroup/Clearpass to “control” 
them.


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For the folks that have apple tvs on campus.  How are they connecting to the 
network?  Wired/wireless


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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless

2014-06-13 Thread Jason Heffner
We built an iOS app for discovery with appletvs at Penn State 
(http://mirror.psu.edu/) that works well. The appletvs used wired connections 
and a list is presented to the user they can select from. We’ve recently also 
added Reflector and AirServer support in an upcoming 1.2 release and finished a 
working OS X version this week. It works off a backend server that holds all 
the manual registrations for devices. 

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mirror-by-penn-state/id811297100?mt=8

We are going to be testing it out this Fall with a few faculty/classes. The 
nice thing is it allows connections across our campuses and on networks where 
bonjour is disabled. We are keeping an eye on the bluetooth discovery and iOS8 
adhoc wireless feature. In testing we found that bluetooth discovery wasn’t the 
most reliable.

Jason


 On Jun 13, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Hurt,Trenton W. trent.h...@louisville.edu 
 wrote:
 
 For the folks that have apple tvs on campus.  How are they connecting to the 
 network?  Wired/wireless
  
  
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless

2014-06-13 Thread Mike Cunningham
Jason, to you happen to be working on anything for the non iOS world of tablets?

Mike Cunningham
Pennsylvania College of Technology


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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless

We built an iOS app for discovery with appletvs at Penn State 
(http://mirror.psu.edu/) that works well. The appletvs used wired connections 
and a list is presented to the user they can select from. We’ve recently also 
added Reflector and AirServer support in an upcoming 1.2 release and finished a 
working OS X version this week. It works off a backend server that holds all 
the manual registrations for devices.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mirror-by-penn-state/id811297100?mt=8

We are going to be testing it out this Fall with a few faculty/classes. The 
nice thing is it allows connections across our campuses and on networks where 
bonjour is disabled. We are keeping an eye on the bluetooth discovery and iOS8 
adhoc wireless feature. In testing we found that bluetooth discovery wasn’t the 
most reliable.

Jason


On Jun 13, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Hurt,Trenton W. 
trent.h...@louisville.edumailto:trent.h...@louisville.edu wrote:

For the folks that have apple tvs on campus.  How are they connecting to the 
network?  Wired/wireless


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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless

2014-06-13 Thread Jason Heffner
Mike, 

That’s tricky. Android uses Miracast for screen mirroring. There is chromecast 
that has some very limited support for mirroring so far. I’ve also seen some 
android apps that do airplay mirroring but you need a certain android version 
and rooted device.

You can share content with certain android apps to an AppleTV but we are 
primarily interested in Mirroring. It opens up many more possibilities using 
the device and several companies have already tackled content sharing across 
devices like crestron, epson, panasonic, and a lot of other vendor specific 
hardware/apps.

I’m also watching the AirTame project closely.

Jason


 On Jun 13, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Mike Cunningham mike.cunning...@pct.edu wrote:
 
 Jason, to you happen to be working on anything for the non iOS world of 
 tablets?  
  
 Mike Cunningham
 Pennsylvania College of Technology
  
  
 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
 [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Heffner
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 10:13 AM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless
  
 We built an iOS app for discovery with appletvs at Penn State 
 (http://mirror.psu.edu/) that works well. The appletvs used wired connections 
 and a list is presented to the user they can select from. We’ve recently also 
 added Reflector and AirServer support in an upcoming 1.2 release and finished 
 a working OS X version this week. It works off a backend server that holds 
 all the manual registrations for devices. 
  
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mirror-by-penn-state/id811297100?mt=8
  
 We are going to be testing it out this Fall with a few faculty/classes. The 
 nice thing is it allows connections across our campuses and on networks where 
 bonjour is disabled. We are keeping an eye on the bluetooth discovery and 
 iOS8 adhoc wireless feature. In testing we found that bluetooth discovery 
 wasn’t the most reliable.
  
 Jason
  
  
 On Jun 13, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Hurt,Trenton W. trent.h...@louisville.edu 
 wrote:
  
 For the folks that have apple tvs on campus.  How are they connecting to the 
 network?  Wired/wireless
  
  
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless

2014-06-13 Thread Mike Cunningham
Thanks. Mirrors (no pun intended) our testing here. We would like to have 
someone produce a device that we can connect to a room projector and have any 
mobile device do screen mirroring to the projector. iOS, Android, Windows 
mobile, laptops, anything with built in wifi. So far no such thing exists. We 
are also watching AirTame closely

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To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless

Mike,

That’s tricky. Android uses Miracast for screen mirroring. There is chromecast 
that has some very limited support for mirroring so far. I’ve also seen some 
android apps that do airplay mirroring but you need a certain android version 
and rooted device.

You can share content with certain android apps to an AppleTV but we are 
primarily interested in Mirroring. It opens up many more possibilities using 
the device and several companies have already tackled content sharing across 
devices like crestron, epson, panasonic, and a lot of other vendor specific 
hardware/apps.

I’m also watching the AirTame project closely.

Jason


On Jun 13, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Mike Cunningham 
mike.cunning...@pct.edumailto:mike.cunning...@pct.edu wrote:

Jason, to you happen to be working on anything for the non iOS world of tablets?

Mike Cunningham
Pennsylvania College of Technology


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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Heffner
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 10:13 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless

We built an iOS app for discovery with appletvs at Penn State 
(http://mirror.psu.edu/) that works well. The appletvs used wired connections 
and a list is presented to the user they can select from. We’ve recently also 
added Reflector and AirServer support in an upcoming 1.2 release and finished a 
working OS X version this week. It works off a backend server that holds all 
the manual registrations for devices.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mirror-by-penn-state/id811297100?mt=8

We are going to be testing it out this Fall with a few faculty/classes. The 
nice thing is it allows connections across our campuses and on networks where 
bonjour is disabled. We are keeping an eye on the bluetooth discovery and iOS8 
adhoc wireless feature. In testing we found that bluetooth discovery wasn’t the 
most reliable.

Jason


On Jun 13, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Hurt,Trenton W. 
trent.h...@louisville.edumailto:trent.h...@louisville.edu wrote:

For the folks that have apple tvs on campus.  How are they connecting to the 
network?  Wired/wireless


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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless

2014-06-13 Thread Jason Heffner
The only thing so far we found truly cross-platform compatible are some of the 
wireless HDMI transmitters/extenders. They’ve come a long way if you don’t mind 
the dongle. You could also throw a Netgear Push2TV as an android option in a 
room though. Some of the installations have put an “airplay” input for the 
Apple TV on their crestron/extron switchers.

I didn’t find Miracast performance the best either. I must say airplay works 
really nice and is quick/easy to connect. We are bit more focused on ease of 
use and discoverability, even if it’s limited to iPads, iPhones, and OS X. We 
may do a Windows version then using AirParrot. I’m really interested to see how 
it is used in classes though, now that we are over the bonjour hurdle.


 On Jun 13, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Mike Cunningham mike.cunning...@pct.edu wrote:
 
 Thanks. Mirrors (no pun intended) our testing here. We would like to have 
 someone produce a device that we can connect to a room projector and have any 
 mobile device do screen mirroring to the projector. iOS, Android, Windows 
 mobile, laptops, anything with built in wifi. So far no such thing exists. We 
 are also watching AirTame closely
  
 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
 [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Heffner
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 10:44 AM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless
  
 Mike, 
  
 That’s tricky. Android uses Miracast for screen mirroring. There is 
 chromecast that has some very limited support for mirroring so far. I’ve also 
 seen some android apps that do airplay mirroring but you need a certain 
 android version and rooted device.
  
 You can share content with certain android apps to an AppleTV but we are 
 primarily interested in Mirroring. It opens up many more possibilities using 
 the device and several companies have already tackled content sharing across 
 devices like crestron, epson, panasonic, and a lot of other vendor specific 
 hardware/apps.
  
 I’m also watching the AirTame project closely.
  
 Jason
  
  
 On Jun 13, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Mike Cunningham mike.cunning...@pct.edu wrote:
  
 Jason, to you happen to be working on anything for the non iOS world of 
 tablets?  
  
 Mike Cunningham
 Pennsylvania College of Technology
  
  
 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
 [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Heffner
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 10:13 AM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless
  
 We built an iOS app for discovery with appletvs at Penn State 
 (http://mirror.psu.edu/) that works well. The appletvs used wired connections 
 and a list is presented to the user they can select from. We’ve recently also 
 added Reflector and AirServer support in an upcoming 1.2 release and finished 
 a working OS X version this week. It works off a backend server that holds 
 all the manual registrations for devices. 
  
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mirror-by-penn-state/id811297100?mt=8
  
 We are going to be testing it out this Fall with a few faculty/classes. The 
 nice thing is it allows connections across our campuses and on networks where 
 bonjour is disabled. We are keeping an eye on the bluetooth discovery and 
 iOS8 adhoc wireless feature. In testing we found that bluetooth discovery 
 wasn’t the most reliable.
  
 Jason
  
  
 On Jun 13, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Hurt,Trenton W. trent.h...@louisville.edu 
 wrote:
  
 For the folks that have apple tvs on campus.  How are they connecting to the 
 network?  Wired/wireless
  
  
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless

2014-06-13 Thread Paul Grieggs
Our Apple TVs are on the Wired Network and we are using the Bluetooth. 
This is working well for us provided the Apple Hardware meets the 
requirements (generally newer ipads and iphones).


Our setup documentation is at:
http://www.iup.edu/itsupportcenter/howto.aspx?id=173894

On 6/13/2014 9:30 AM, Hurt,Trenton W. wrote:

For the folks that have apple tvs on campus.  How are they connecting to
the network?  Wired/wireless

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RE: apple tv wired/wireless

2014-06-13 Thread Hector J Rios
We do allow them on our wireless network, but on the 802.1X network only (we 
didn't want to create a separate SSID). They have to setup a profile to do 
this, and push it out to the Apple TV  device, but believe me, it is painful. I 
don't recommend it.

-Hector Rios
Louisiana State University


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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless

For the folks that have apple tvs on campus.  How are they connecting to the 
network?  Wired/wireless


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RE: apple tv wired/wireless

2014-06-13 Thread Hurt,Trenton W.
That is what I have done as well, and yes it's not very user friendly for 
setup.  It's also an rf killer and I have been trying to not expand this 
because of the high channel utilization this causes by having both ends doing 
the mirror on wifi.

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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 3:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless

We do allow them on our wireless network, but on the 802.1X network only (we 
didn't want to create a separate SSID). They have to setup a profile to do 
this, and push it out to the Apple TV  device, but believe me, it is painful. I 
don't recommend it.

-Hector Rios
Louisiana State University


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To: 
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless

For the folks that have apple tvs on campus.  How are they connecting to the 
network?  Wired/wireless


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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless

2014-06-13 Thread Mike Albano
*Wired only
*WPA2-Enterprise SSID Only
*Allowing AirPlay  Airtunes.

As others have mentioned, Wireless = painful to configure and high Channel
Utilization.

Mike Albano


On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Hurt,Trenton W. trent.h...@louisville.edu
 wrote:

  That is what I have done as well, and yes it’s not very user friendly
 for setup.  It’s also an rf killer and I have been trying to not expand
 this because of the high channel utilization this causes by having both
 ends doing the mirror on wifi.



 *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Hector J Rios
 *Sent:* Friday, June 13, 2014 3:34 PM

 *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless



 We do allow them on our wireless network, but on the 802.1X network only
 (we didn’t want to create a separate SSID). They have to setup a profile to
 do this, and push it out to the Apple TV  device, but believe me, it is
 painful. I don’t recommend it.



 -Hector Rios

 Louisiana State University





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 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Hurt,Trenton W.
 *Sent:* Friday, June 13, 2014 8:31 AM
 *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] apple tv wired/wireless



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