RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Best Wireless Solution for Residence Hall Rooms

[Johnson, Christopher]

I was curious for those that based your deployments on RSSI if anyone had 
“minimum SNR requirements” for Residence Hall locations to help for those 
periods of time where there may be some source of momentary noise due to some 
devices that students may/will bring into their rooms?

Christopher Johnson
Wireless Network Engineer
AT Infrastructure Operations & Networking (ION)
Illinois State University
(309) 438-8444
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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Umut Arus
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 3:54 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Best Wireless Solution for Residence Hall Rooms

Hello,

Thank you for your replies. Love it. Great posts with so much valuable 
information.

thanks.

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 4:27 AM, Sweetser, Frank E 
> wrote:

Speaking as yet another site that saw huge improvements going from in-hallway 
to in-room, there's another factor that hasn't been mentioned very much yet - 
the client side radio.  Even if you dump all kinds of special sauce on the AP, 
like Xirrus multi-sector or Ruckus Beamflex, you're still going to be dealing 
with the same low power, crappy antennas and radios in your clients.  That high 
end $2k AP may be able to push a signal through concrete, but your user with an 
iPhone 5 is still going to be out of luck.



You're better off going with even a bottom end AP per room, or every other 
room, than high end ones in hallway.  Check out the hospitality models, like 
the Aruba 203H (or whichever vendor you use - most offer something comparable). 
 They typically feature a few wired ports powered off of the AP uplink, so if 
you already have active ports you can just re-use them rather than having to 
light up new ones in every room.


Frank Sweetser
Director of Network Operations
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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HL Mencken


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> 
on behalf of Norton, Thomas (Network Operations) 
>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 7:57 PM

To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Best Wireless Solution for Residence Hall Rooms


We run a large Aurba shop at liberty, and have been running an all wireless 
solution in our dorms for some time now which were very happy with.



With that said every dorm environment is different, gathering requirements, 
predictive planning, and design are key especially when dealing with microcell 
deployments.



I would really look into what your trying to accomplish with an ap in every 
room, it really depends on the environment, your functional requirements, bw 
needs, and what your trying to support/accomplish. You should also always 
follow up after the fact to validate your deployment, and tune the rf 
appropriately.



I also highly advise against deploying access points in hallways due to 
multipath, LOS, and roaming issues it poses.



Aruba has some really cool tools and VRDs to help assist you in planning your 
designs. I’ve listed few links for reference below.



https://ase.arubanetworks.com



http://community.arubanetworks.com/t5/Validated-Reference-Design/tkb-p/Aruba-VRDs/page/2





T.J. Norton

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Network Operations



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Date: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 2:03 PM
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"WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Best Wireless Solution for Residence Hall Rooms



We moved to Meraki, and placed the Aps in rooms based on the building (not in 
each room) but enough to ensure good coverage



m

Mark Reboli

Network/Telecom Manager

Misericordia University

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Question regarding the support of WiFi Calling and texting

[Tim Tyler]

Vikki,

  What are you using for a firewall?  We had to open up a couple ingress
protocols after we upgraded our PA firewall.  These protocols need to talk
to servers on the Internet. PA’s latest models will block the handshaking
unless ingress is open.  We found this to be predominately true for Apple
phones, but seldom for Androids.   It also depending on the service.  We
have no complaints now.



Tim



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WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Vikki Cutrone
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*To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
*Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Question regarding the support of WiFi
Calling and texting



We are running Eduroam as our SSID,  my Android phone can use eduroam to
make WiFi calls or Texts, some users on campus, primary Apple devices
cannot.  I was wondering if campuses are maintaining a best effort
posture/policy  regarding BYOD's ?



Thanks



On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Yahya M. Jaber 
wrote:

Can you give us an example on the issues reported?, so I can understand
your issue more.





Yahya Jaber.
CCIE Wireless.
055-869-7555
ITNC Engineering.
KAUST.



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On Oct 24, 2017 17:25, Vikki Cutrone  wrote:

I am the Network Administrator at Vassar College and I was wondering what
position  institutions were taking regarding support and troubleshooting of
clients trying to use the wireless for wifi calling and wifi texting?  I am
getting a large amount of requests for this service but with the multitude
of  cell phones, operating systems and cell providers it is impossible to
keep up.  Any input about your institution's policy or thoughts on a
potential policy would be greatly appreciated.



Thank you in advance!



-- 

Vikki Cutrone

Network Administrator

Vassar College, Box 13

124 Raymond Ave


Poughkeepsie, NY 12604

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Question regarding the support of WiFi Calling and texting

[Vikki Cutrone]

We are running Eduroam as our SSID,  my Android phone can use eduroam to
make WiFi calls or Texts, some users on campus, primary Apple devices
cannot.  I was wondering if campuses are maintaining a best effort
posture/policy  regarding BYOD's ?

Thanks

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Yahya M. Jaber 
wrote:

> Can you give us an example on the issues reported?, so I can understand
> your issue more.
>
>
>
> Yahya Jaber.
> CCIE Wireless.
> 055-869-7555
> ITNC Engineering.
> KAUST.
>
>
>
> Sent from an Android
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> On Oct 24, 2017 17:25, Vikki Cutrone  wrote:
>
> I am the Network Administrator at Vassar College and I was wondering what
> position  institutions were taking regarding support and troubleshooting of
> clients trying to use the wireless for wifi calling and wifi texting?  I am
> getting a large amount of requests for this service but with the multitude
> of  cell phones, operating systems and cell providers it is impossible to
> keep up.  Any input about your institution's policy or thoughts on a
> potential policy would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you in advance!
>
> --
> Vikki Cutrone
> Network Administrator
> Vassar College, Box 13
> 124 Raymond Ave
> 
> Poughkeepsie, NY 12604
> 
> -0013
>
> 845-437-7231
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Vikki Cutrone
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Vassar College, Box 13
124 Raymond Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12604-0013

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Question regarding the support of WiFi Calling and texting

[Yahya M. Jaber]

Can you give us an example on the issues reported?, so I can understand your 
issue more.



Yahya Jaber.
CCIE Wireless.
055-869-7555
ITNC Engineering.
KAUST.



Sent from an Android

On Oct 24, 2017 17:25, Vikki Cutrone  wrote:
I am the Network Administrator at Vassar College and I was wondering what 
position  institutions were taking regarding support and troubleshooting of 
clients trying to use the wireless for wifi calling and wifi texting?  I am 
getting a large amount of requests for this service but with the multitude of  
cell phones, operating systems and cell providers it is impossible to keep up.  
Any input about your institution's policy or thoughts on a potential policy 
would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance!

--
Vikki Cutrone
Network Administrator
Vassar College, Box 13
124 Raymond Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12604-0013

845-437-7231
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Question regarding the support of WiFi Calling and texting

[Hector J Rios]

We do not have any policy. Unless I’m not understanding the question, these are 
capabilities of the endpoints and the carriers and regardless of WiFi coverage, 
the experience should be seamless.

Hector Rios
Louisiana State University

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Vikki Cutrone
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:26 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Question regarding the support of WiFi Calling and 
texting

I am the Network Administrator at Vassar College and I was wondering what 
position  institutions were taking regarding support and troubleshooting of 
clients trying to use the wireless for wifi calling and wifi texting?  I am 
getting a large amount of requests for this service but with the multitude of  
cell phones, operating systems and cell providers it is impossible to keep up.  
Any input about your institution's policy or thoughts on a potential policy 
would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance!

--
Vikki Cutrone
Network Administrator
Vassar College, Box 13
124 Raymond Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12604-0013

845-437-7231
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Question regarding the support of WiFi Calling and texting

[Vikki Cutrone]

I am the Network Administrator at Vassar College and I was wondering what
position  institutions were taking regarding support and troubleshooting of
clients trying to use the wireless for wifi calling and wifi texting?  I am
getting a large amount of requests for this service but with the multitude
of  cell phones, operating systems and cell providers it is impossible to
keep up.  Any input about your institution's policy or thoughts on a
potential policy would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance!

-- 
Vikki Cutrone
Network Administrator
Vassar College, Box 13
124 Raymond Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12604-0013

845-437-7231

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