RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Non penetrating roof mounted WiFi antenna

[Mattson, III, Ken V]

We plan on using this pad:
http://www.cableandwireshop.com/protective-rubber-mat-layer-for-non-penetrating-antenna-roof-mount.html

If there is a layer of river rock covering the roof membrane, do you clear 
those away first before putting down the mat and mast base?

According to the Cisco documentation the antenna and AP we are using are 
designed for outdoor use. We use this AP/Antenna combination quite a bit across 
campus so we have the practice at protecting them. The rest have all been wall 
mounted, this is our first roof mount. We are only doing the roof mount because 
the area we want to cover doesn’t have any suitable walls for an AP or antenna. 
Our facilities group also doesn’t like roof penetrations so the cabling for it 
will come through the wall just below the roof and the up and over to the 
AP/Antenna or the AP will stay inside and only the antenna cables will come out 
and up. We are trying to determine how long the antenna cables will have to be 
and if it makes sense to get them or just mount the AP to the mast lower down.

Thanks for all of the helpful input so far.

Kenneth V. Mattson III
Director - Network and Data
DoIT
Creighton University
402-280-2743
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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Craig Eyre
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 9:04 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Non penetrating roof mounted WiFi antenna

We use those mounts on all our installs with a rubber mat underneath and 4 
cinder blocks holding it down and they don't move at all. I agree with the 
other comments of lightning arrestors, power protection, appropriate weather 
prevention for cabling coming through the ceiling. We don't run fiber to ours 
but that's another good idea.

The only question I have is that antenna outdoor nema rated?


Craig Eyre

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Mattson, III, Ken V 
<kenmatt...@creighton.edu<mailto:kenmatt...@creighton.edu>> wrote:
Has anyone roof mounted an AIR-ANT2588P3M-N antenna? Do you have pictures of 
the installation that you could share?  How high did you mount it? How much 
weight did you put on the base? We plan on putting it as high at 8-10 ft. on 
something like this:
http://www.cableandwireshop.com/non-penetrating-roof-mount-with-166-x-120-mast.html

Any gotchas we should be aware of?

Thanks for any assistance,

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Non penetrating roof mounted WiFi antenna

[Mattson, III, Ken V]

Has anyone roof mounted an AIR-ANT2588P3M-N antenna? Do you have pictures of 
the installation that you could share?  How high did you mount it? How much 
weight did you put on the base? We plan on putting it as high at 8-10 ft. on 
something like this:
http://www.cableandwireshop.com/non-penetrating-roof-mount-with-166-x-120-mast.html

Any gotchas we should be aware of?

Thanks for any assistance,

Kenneth V. Mattson III
Director - Network and Data
DoIT
Creighton University
402-280-2743
402-981-1140

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RE: Zigbee products

[Mattson III, Ken V.]

We do have an entire Res Hall using it for environmental controls alongside our 
wireless in the building.

Kenneth V. Mattson III
Director - Network and Data
DoIT
Creighton University
402-280-2743
402-981-1140

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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Mattson III, Ken V.
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 1:44 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Zigbee products

So far none that we have been able to notice. We also aren’t looking for it 
specifically.

Kenneth V. Mattson III
Director - Network and Data
DoIT
Creighton University
402-280-2743
402-981-1140

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Becker, Jason
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 1:10 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Zigbee products

Has anyone had any issues with Zigbee products interfering with your wireless 
network?  Everything I read tells me it should not, but I want to throw it out 
here!



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RE: Zigbee products

[Mattson III, Ken V.]

So far none that we have been able to notice. We also aren’t looking for it 
specifically.


Kenneth V. Mattson III
Director - Network and Data
DoIT
Creighton University
402-280-2743
402-981-1140

A password is like a toothbrush:
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Becker, Jason
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 1:10 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Zigbee products

Has anyone had any issues with Zigbee products interfering with your wireless 
network?  Everything I read tells me it should not, but I want to throw it out 
here!



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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Mac Pop UP Error

[Mattson III, Ken V.]

We just disabled TKIP and WPA last week and the error has stopped.

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Creighton University
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Mathieu Sturm
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 2:34 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Mac Pop UP Error

I've disabled WPA and only use WPA2. Haven't had any problems since I've 
disabled it.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] Namens Charlie Weaver
Verzonden: vrijdag 23 oktober 2015 17:03
Aan: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Onderwerp: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Mac Pop UP Error

We don’t have TKIP on for our WPA2-Enterprise settings in the controllers, but 
on the WPA it is set as being on.  We will turn this off as soon as we can 
verify it wont cause issues.  Not sure if that is the root of our issue or not.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Charlie

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jorj Bauer
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 9:02 AM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Mac Pop UP Error

I was under the impression that was a TKIP error report. Are you deliberately 
using TKIP?

-- Jorj


On 10/23/15 8:56 AM, Charlie Weaver wrote:
> Has anyone else seen the pop up message on Mac computers connected to 
> their wireless that says “The wireless network appears to have been 
> compromised and will be disabled for about a minute.”?  We recently 
> rolled out ISE and now every wireless issue is related to the rollout.
> We are using WPA2-Enterprise on the authenticated SSID, but from what 
> I have seen, this is not wireless vendor specific and can happen on 
> pretty much any type of wireless network from home to enterprise.
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> Charlie Weaver
>
> Director or network Services and Telecommunications
>
> Georgia College
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Measuring RADIUS Auths

[Mattson III, Ken V.]

Thanks for the additional info.  We mainly were using it to compare against 
itself, especially the retransmissions. There were some telltale signs that we 
were having controller problems and a spike in retransmissions was a big one.

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DoIT
Creighton University
402-280-2743
402-981-1140
 
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Earl Barfield
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:08 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Measuring RADIUS Auths

> Date:Fri, 16 Oct 2015 18:21:19 +
> From:"Mattson III, Ken V." <kenmatt...@creighton.edu>
> Subject: Re: Measuring RADIUS Auths
>
> I am pretty sure it is raw ("The number of RADIUS Access-Request packets sent 
> to this server. This does not include retransmissions.").
>
> 1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.5.3.1.8.3 is the retransmissions.
> http://tools.cisco.com/Support/SNMP/do/BrowseOID.do?local=en=Translate=bsnRadiusAuthClientAccessRetransmissions#oidContent
>
>
> Output from a snmpbulkwalk on one of our controllers:
> .1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.5.3.1.7.3 = Counter32: 93421076
> .1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.5.3.1.7.4 = Counter32: 0
> .1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.5.3.1.8.3 = Counter32: 31652
> .1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.5.3.1.8.4 = Counter32: 0

If you are doing EAP-PEAPv0/MS-CHAPv2 then there will be many (a dozen
or so) Access-Request packets sent per user authorization occurrence.

The WiSM sends Access-Request (type 1) and the radius server answers
with Auth-Challenge (type 11).   This repeats back and forth many times
until the radius server finally answers the final Auth-Request with
either an Auth-Accept (type 2) or Auth-Reject (type 3).


Just be clear what you're counting when comparing with other
institutions or you will be off by quite a bit.   Apples-to-apples, etc.







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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Measuring RADIUS Auths

[Mattson III, Ken V.]

I am pretty sure it is raw ("The number of RADIUS Access-Request packets sent 
to this server. This does not include retransmissions.").

1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.5.3.1.8.3 is the retransmissions.
http://tools.cisco.com/Support/SNMP/do/BrowseOID.do?local=en=Translate=bsnRadiusAuthClientAccessRetransmissions#oidContent


Output from a snmpbulkwalk on one of our controllers:
.1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.5.3.1.7.3 = Counter32: 93421076
.1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.5.3.1.7.4 = Counter32: 0
.1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.5.3.1.8.3 = Counter32: 31652
.1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.5.3.1.8.4 = Counter32: 0


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Director - Network and Data
DoIT
Creighton University
402-280-2743
402-981-1140
 
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Rumford
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 12:13 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Measuring RADIUS Auths

Is that raw requests or complete auths?

> On Oct 16, 2015, at 12:46 PM, Mattson III, Ken V. <kenmatt...@creighton.edu> 
> wrote:
> 
> We poll our controllers directly.
> 
> 
> 
> http://tools.cisco.com/Support/SNMP/do/BrowseOID.do?objectInput=1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.5.3.1.7=Translate=SUBMIT=true
> 
> 
> 
> We use the following OIDs:
> 
> 
> 
> 1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.5.3.1.7.3&1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.5.3.1.8.3
> 
> 
> 
> And graph them here:
> 
> 
> 
> http://mrtg.creighton.edu/WiSM/WiSM_Radius_Statistics.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kenneth V. Mattson III
> Director - Network and Data
> DoIT
> Creighton University
> 402-280-2743
> 402-981-1140
> 
> A password is like a toothbrush:
> Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it.
> 
> 
> 
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ciesinski, Nick
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 10:20 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Measuring RADIUS Auths
> 
> 
> 
> This is the access key  AV3Q6TQB  I can’t add you for some reason.  Did you 
> ID change in CCW?
> 
> 
> 
> Nick
> 
> On Oct 16, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Walter Reynolds <wa...@umich.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Since you mention in the thread that you have Cisco with Freeradius backend, 
> I thought I would point out that if you are request that show up in total 
> request.
> 
> 
> 
> That being said, our heaviest loaded Freeradius box seems to be hitting max 
> and we have hit as high as 150 auths/sec with an average of 80/sec over a 
> minute window.
> 
> 
> 
> Stand alone Two processor Quad core Intel Xeon X5570  @ 2.93GHz with 6Gb ram
> 
> 
> 
> A VM single Quad core with 8Gb ram seems to be peaking at 80/sec with a one 
> minute avg of 60/sec
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Walter Reynolds
> 
> Principal Systems Security Development Engineer
> Information and Technology Services
> University of Michigan
> (734) 615-9438
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Charles Rumford <charl...@isc.upenn.edu> 
> wrote:
> 
> I’m currently embarking on a project to determine the number of RADIUS auths 
> per minute each one of my controllers is generating
> 
> I was curious if anyone has embarked on a similar journey and tried to 
> measure auth rates coming from their controllers?
> 
> I have a couple of ideas that I’m up for sharing, but I wanted to see if 
> anyone else has done this.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Charles Rumford
> Network Engineer/Senior Wireless Engineer
> ISC Network Operations
> University of Pennsylvania
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Measuring RADIUS Auths

[Mattson III, Ken V.]

We poll our controllers directly.

http://tools.cisco.com/Support/SNMP/do/BrowseOID.do?objectInput=1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.5.3.1.7=Translate=SUBMIT=true

We use the following OIDs:

1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.5.3.1.7.3&1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.5.3.1.8.3

And graph them here:

http://mrtg.creighton.edu/WiSM/WiSM_Radius_Statistics.html



Kenneth V. Mattson III
Director - Network and Data
DoIT
Creighton University
402-280-2743
402-981-1140

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Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ciesinski, Nick
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 10:20 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Measuring RADIUS Auths

This is the access key  AV3Q6TQB  I can’t add you for some reason.  Did you ID 
change in CCW?

Nick
On Oct 16, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Walter Reynolds 
> wrote:

Since you mention in the thread that you have Cisco with Freeradius backend, I 
thought I would point out that if you are doing PEAP/MSChapv2 that the 
bottleneck is winbind/samba and that it is based on auth's per second, not 
purely auth request that show up in total request.

That being said, our heaviest loaded Freeradius box seems to be hitting max and 
we have hit as high as 150 auths/sec with an average of 80/sec over a minute 
window.

Stand alone Two processor Quad core Intel Xeon X5570  @ 2.93GHz with 6Gb ram

A VM single Quad core with 8Gb ram seems to be peaking at 80/sec with a one 
minute avg of 60/sec



Walter Reynolds
Principal Systems Security Development Engineer
Information and Technology Services
University of Michigan
(734) 615-9438

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Charles Rumford 
> wrote:
I’m currently embarking on a project to determine the number of RADIUS auths 
per minute each one of my controllers is generating to plan for the capacity I 
need for my RADIUS servers.

I was curious if anyone has embarked on a similar journey and tried to measure 
auth rates coming from their controllers?

I have a couple of ideas that I’m up for sharing, but I wanted to see if anyone 
else has done this.

Thanks!


Charles Rumford
Network Engineer/Senior Wireless Engineer
ISC Network Operations
University of Pennsylvania
OpenPGP Key ID: 0xF3D8215A
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AP Horizontal Mounting Bracket

[Mattson III, Ken V.]

We usually use the Oberon bracket, but we have used these in less/non visible 
places.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-7-25-in-x-7-25-in-White-Over-Under-Shelf-Bracket-EB-0051-8WT/204657444

After seeing them installed we have thought about using them in some more 
visible places.  If you need a place to hide the cable, it is fairly easy to 
clamshell two of them together to make a cable path between them.


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DoIT
Creighton University
402-280-2743
402-981-1140
 
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeffrey D. Sessler
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:28 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AP Horizontal Mounting Bracket

And if someone were to calculate the labor cost to piece that solution 
together, the $50 Oberon likely comes out ahead. :(

Jeff



On 9/14/15, 5:33 AM, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
on behalf of Jon Scot Prunckle"  wrote:

>I tired to get our Services department to buy-in to the Oberon unit for 
>several of our more architecturally unique buildings, but there was no 
>interest due to the cost.  I think the Oberon Units are quite nice.  
>
>Currently we have contracted out the cabling portion of our Wi-Fi expansion.  
>The contractor happens to be a licensed electrical contractor (by state law, 
>our Network Services department is allowed to pull cable, but is not allowed 
>to install conduit other than wiremold or a fire-stopping penetration; conduit 
>must be installed by a licensed, state approved contractor).  The electrical 
>contractor has devised a mount using:
>- a wiremold 4 1/2" square by 3 1/2" deep surface mount electrical box 
>- covered with a 4" square blank plate w/ a 1/2 knock out (with a plastic KO 
>bushing) and a 
>- 1/4" mud ring screwed into 
>- two small angle brackets mounted to the 4" blank plate, and
>- mounted to the 1/4" mud ring is a Juniper WLA-BRKT-WALL to which we mount our
>- Juniper WLA532-US APs.
>
>It's convoluted and may not present an ideal solution for many environments.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>
>J. Scot Prunckle
>Network Engineer
>UITS Network and Operations Services
>University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
>Office Mobile: (414) 416-9709
>E-mail: prunc...@uwm.edu
>
>
>From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> on behalf of Jeffrey D. Sessler 
>
>Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 5:48 PM
>To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AP Horizontal Mounting Bracket
>
>WE using the Oberon unit. Without the key lock they are very inexpensive and 
>it’s built such that it’s nearly impossible to use it as a place to hang 
>cloths (if installed in a room).
>
>Jeff
>
>
>
>
>On 9/11/15, 12:03 PM, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
>on behalf of Dan Brisson" dbris...@uvm.edu> wrote:
>
>>Oberon
>
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 702W APs

[Mattson III, Ken V.]

Thanks for the heads up about the classic template. Converged templates are 
harder to hunt down for me at this time. We have been able to get the AP ports 
into different vlans via Prime. We had to turn off the switchport voice vlan 
line on the switch config in order to get the voice vlan to work on the AP. 
This building is all concrete block so we went with one per room. As we do 
others that aren't block we will look at spreading them out some.

Thanks to all for the feedback in general. It has been helpful.


Kenneth V. Mattson III
Director - Network and Data
DoIT
Creighton University
402-280-2743
402-981-1140
 
A password is like a toothbrush:
Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it.

-Original Message-
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Todd Hall
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 8:22 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 702W APs

We installed some of these back in December.  Here are a few of the issues we 
had.

1. Power requirements are too high because of the POE port LAN4.  There is no 
way to configure the POE off if you are on 7.6.x.x.  Found that if you limit 
the 
uplink port to 15.4 watts, the AP will be fully functional, but the POE in LAN4 
will be turned off.  We can get a lot more APs per POE switch.

2. The ethernet ports are default off.  cli method of enabling them is time 
consuming because you can only do one port at a time.  Found that in PI 2.2 
(using classic theme) you can configure a Lightweight AP Configuration Template 
to enable them in mass.

3. The ethernet ports are in the same vlan as the AP.  This should be resolved 
in some 8.x release (we're still on 7.6).

We've found that one AP covers two dorm rooms very well (fire rated 
sheetrock).

We haven't had any damage with them mounted low, however in new buildings they 
will be mounted higher.



On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Mattson III, Ken V. wrote:

 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:25:09 -0500
 From: Mattson III, Ken V. kenmatt...@creighton.edu
 Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
 WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu
 Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 702W APs
 
 We are about to embark on covering a Res Hall with 99% 702W APs. Are there 
 any lessons learned from others out there? If our pilot works well we intend 
 on this being the cookie cutter as we move forward.

 Kenneth V. Mattson III
 Director - Network and Data
 DoIT
 Creighton University
 402-280-2743
 402-981-1140

 A password is like a toothbrush:
 Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it.



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Information Technology Services
Mississippi State University
t...@msstate.edu
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RE: Looking for interest among Wi-Fi professionals

[Mattson III, Ken V.]

I'd be interested.

Kenneth V. Mattson III
Director - Network and Data
DoIT
Creighton University
402-280-2743
402-981-1140

A password is like a toothbrush:
Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:49 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Looking for interest among Wi-Fi professionals

This is not meant to self-promote, apologies if it seems that way. Looking for 
interest on whether those on the list would get value out of a potential new 
wireless-oriented discussion board, as described here:

https://wirednot.wordpress.com/2015/03/18/hey-wireless-professionals-would-you-use/

Won't hurt my feelings either way, but could be kind of valuable if you picture 
it widely used.

Regards-

Lee Badman



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Cisco 702W APs

[Mattson III, Ken V.]

We are about to embark on covering a Res Hall with 99% 702W APs. Are there any 
lessons learned from others out there? If our pilot works well we intend on 
this being the cookie cutter as we move forward.

Kenneth V. Mattson III
Director - Network and Data
DoIT
Creighton University
402-280-2743
402-981-1140

A password is like a toothbrush:
Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it.

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 702W APs

[Mattson III, Ken V.]

Yes, this first one will be one AP per room. Furniture smashing is a concern to 
Res Life and us. The APs permanent location will be mostly shielded from 
furniture smashing. I will post some pictures and update periodically about the 
smashing part.

Kenneth V. Mattson III
Director - Network and Data
DoIT
Creighton University
402-280-2743
402-981-1140

A password is like a toothbrush:
Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan Nord
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 3:32 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 702W APs

We are looking to do the same.  We have two main issues that need to be worked 
out before moving forward - 1) NAC vendor needs to support changing VLANs on 
the AP, and 2) how do we deploy them so they don't get smashed by 
furniture/students?

What is your deployment plan?  1 AP per room or something else?

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Mattson III, Ken V. 
kenmatt...@creighton.edumailto:kenmatt...@creighton.edu wrote:
We are about to embark on covering a Res Hall with 99% 702W APs. Are there any 
lessons learned from others out there? If our pilot works well we intend on 
this being the cookie cutter as we move forward.

Kenneth V. Mattson III
Director - Network and Data
DoIT
Creighton University
402-280-2743tel:402-280-2743
402-981-1140tel:402-981-1140

A password is like a toothbrush:
Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it.




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Information Technology Services
Macalester College
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Prime Infraestructure 2.1 available

[Mattson III, Ken V.]

My guess is that new features exclusive to those WLC releases will not be 
supported in 2.1 with the exception of the new AP models and the new mobility 
feature (I am ignorant of what that may be).

Any clearer, or am I just talking out of my backside?

Kenneth V. Mattson III
Director - Network and Data
DoIT
Creighton University
402-280-2743
402-981-1140
 
A password is like a toothbrush:
Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it.

-Original Message-
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 7:26 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Prime Infraestructure 2.1 available

I'm a literate man, and for the life of me I can't make sense of . Prime 
Infrastructure 2.1 does not support any features 
that are introduced in Cisco WLC Releases 7.5.102.0 and 7.6.100.0 except 
the new access point platforms and the new mobility feature.

-Lee Badman

-Original Message-
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Francisco J. Medina 
Jimenez
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 7:49 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Prime Infraestructure 2.1 available

Hi,

1) Features supported:
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/net_mgmt/prime/infrastructure/2-1/release/notes/cpi_rn.html#pgfId-76626

Prime Infrastructure 2.1 enables you to manage Cisco WLC Releases 
7.5.102.0 and 7.6.100.0 with the features of Cisco WLC 7.4.121.0 and 
earlier releases. Prime Infrastructure 2.1 does not support any features 
that are introduced in Cisco WLC Releases 7.5.102.0 and 7.6.100.0 except 
the new access point platforms and the new mobility feature. Prime 
Infrastructure 2.1 supports the following access points: 
3700I/E,3700P,Cisco AP3600 with 802.11ac,702 I,1530I/E, 3600P

2) Upgrade path:
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/net_mgmt/prime/infrastructure/2-1/quickstart/guide/cpi_qsg.html#pgfId-56675

You can upgrade the following Cisco Prime Infrastructure (and 
predecessor) products to Cisco Prime Infrastructure 2.1: Cisco Prime 
Infrastructure 2.0.0.0.294, Cisco Prime Infrastructure 1.3.0.20

There is no upgrade path from version 1.4.x to version 2.1 at present.

Regards.
Fran.

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Universidad de Granada
Centro de Informática y Redes de Comunicaciones
Campus Fuentenueva. Edificio Mecenas
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2700 AP

[Mattson III, Ken V.]

Verify which version of controller code you need to be on before you get them.  
The data sheet says  Cisco Unified Wireless Network Software Release 8.0 or 
later

Kenneth V. Mattson III
Director - Network and Data
DoIT
Creighton University
402-280-2743
402-981-1140
 
A password is like a toothbrush:
Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it.

-Original Message-
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of McClintic, Thomas
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 4:08 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2700 AP

Yes, you can disable 11ac mode globally.

-Original Message-
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Christina Klam
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 4:05 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2700 AP

We are putting together our purchase requests for the FY15.  As the 2700
costs the same as the 2600, it makes sense to get the 2700s.   However,
we do not need AC right now.  Judging from this list, AC is still beta-like for 
the enterprise.  Is there a way to turn of the AC radios on the 2700 and 3700s?

Thank you,
Christina


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Institute for Advanced Study
Email:  ck...@ias.edu

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Mavericks update

[Mattson III, Ken V.]

It is supposed to at least fix bug number one here.

http://www.macstadium.com/blog/osx-10-9-mavericks-bugs/


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DoIT
Creighton University
402-280-2743
402-981-1140

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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Wright, Don
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:34 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Mavericks update

   I'm hoping they may have addressed it under the cloak of improvements to 
the stability, compatibility and security of your mac..  without even 
mentioning it officially.
- Don

On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Dan Brisson 
dbris...@uvm.edumailto:dbris...@uvm.edu wrote:
Doesn't look promising:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6114

I'm not seeing any mention of Wireless fixes/enhancements.

-dan




Dan Brisson

Network Engineer

University of Vermont

(Ph) 802.656.8111tel:802.656.8111

dbris...@uvm.edumailto:dbris...@uvm.edu
On 2/25/14, 1:21 PM, Wright, Don wrote:
Looks like MacOS 10.9.2 became available today from the App Store.  It will 
be interesting to see if the wifi roaming and dropping issues have been 
resolved.

- Don Wright
Brown University
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Mavericks update

[Mattson III, Ken V.]

In our limited testing it does not seem to address issue number one.  On the 
upside it does not reverse the work done using the supplied work around.

Kenneth V. Mattson III
Director - Network and Data
DoIT
Creighton University
402-280-2743
402-981-1140

A password is like a toothbrush:
Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Mattson III, Ken V.
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:46 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Mavericks update

It is supposed to at least fix bug number one here.

http://www.macstadium.com/blog/osx-10-9-mavericks-bugs/


Kenneth V. Mattson III
Director - Network and Data
DoIT
Creighton University
402-280-2743
402-981-1140

A password is like a toothbrush:
Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Wright, Don
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:34 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Mavericks update

   I'm hoping they may have addressed it under the cloak of improvements to 
the stability, compatibility and security of your mac..  without even 
mentioning it officially.
- Don

On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Dan Brisson 
dbris...@uvm.edumailto:dbris...@uvm.edu wrote:
Doesn't look promising:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6114

I'm not seeing any mention of Wireless fixes/enhancements.

-dan



Dan Brisson

Network Engineer

University of Vermont

(Ph) 802.656.8111tel:802.656.8111

dbris...@uvm.edumailto:dbris...@uvm.edu
On 2/25/14, 1:21 PM, Wright, Don wrote:
Looks like MacOS 10.9.2 became available today from the App Store.  It will 
be interesting to see if the wifi roaming and dropping issues have been 
resolved.

- Don Wright
Brown University
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] KeyNote Remote on Cisco LWAPP

[Mattson III, Ken V.]

Where is the like button for this comment?

Kenneth V. Mattson III
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DoIT
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-Original Message-
From: Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 22:07:22 +
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] KeyNote Remote on Cisco LWAPP

Or you could ask your Apple rep to remind the mothership that their toys
occasionally find their ways to real networks...

Oops, did I say that out loud?

Lee H. Badman
Wireless/Network Engineer, ITS
Adjunct Instructor, iSchool
Syracuse University
315.443.3003

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of James Nesbitt
[james_nesb...@ncsu.edu]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 5:47 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] KeyNote Remote on Cisco LWAPP

You could enable multicast on the controller only.  Generally, APs in the
same building should reside on the same controller.  This would allow the
devices to discover each other via MDNS port 5353.  Once the discovery
takes place all other traffic is unicast TCP.



James Nesbitt
Networking Specialist
Communication Technologies
North Carolina State University
james_nesb...@ncsu.edu
(919)515-0137

 Ken Connell kconn...@ryerson.ca 10/10/11 5:01 PM 
I can see only two other options...

1. You get or force , if possible, both devices on the same vlan/network
broadcast domain.

2. Setup an adhoc network for the task.



Ken Connell
Intermediate Network Engineer
Computer  Communication Services
Ryerson University
350 Victoria St
RM AB50
Toronto, Ont
M5B 2K3
416-979-5000 x6709


-Original Message-
From: Scott Powell spow...@wittenberg.edu
Sender: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:03:34
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Reply-to: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] KeyNote Remote on Cisco LWAPP

I have a professor trying to use their iPod to remotely control their iPad
in the classroom. It works fine on a test Netgear wireless router I have
for testing. However it does not work on any of the WLANs I have
configured for campus use. Doing a little research, it appears that this
application requires multicast to be enabled? I currently do not have
multicast enabled. Does anyone have experience with this? Any solutions
that don't require enabling multicast?

Thank you.

Scott Powell
Director, IT Infrastructure  Support
Wittenberg University
937-525-3821
937-327-7372 fax
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