RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] protecting AP's in a gym?
Richie, We custom built them in house using 4” x 8” x 10’ Cablofil wire mesh cabling trays and used bolt cutters and pliers to cut and bend them. It took us about a hour or two to make between five to ten of these. HTH Norman Chu Systems Administrator, Network Infrastructure Team IT Services T: 514-398-7299 norman@mcgill.ca | www.mcgill.ca/it<http://www.mcgill.ca/it> 805 rue Sherbrooke Ouest, Burnside Hall, Montréal, QC. H3A-0B9 Canada [1501096696117_IITSlogo4email-cleaner-350.png] From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Richie Penuela Sent: January 29, 2021 11:36 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] protecting AP's in a gym? Norman, Where did you get the metal cover from? -Respectfully, [signature_1378672216] Sr. Wireless Engineer UCF IT | Telecommunications University of Central Florida 407.823.4906 richie.penu...@ucf.edu<mailto:richie.penu...@ucf.edu> Please note: Florida has a very broad open records law (F.S. 119). Emails may be subject to public disclosure From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Norman Chu mailto:norman@mcgill.ca>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Friday, January 29, 2021 at 11:27 AM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] protecting AP's in a gym? In McGill University’s gymnasiums, we put in L-brackets so that the AP’s are parallel to the ground for an ideal radiation pattern. We then ‘protect’ the AP’s with a ‘metal cover’ as pictured in the attached image (yes, the AP’s are exposed from the bottom). They were installed back in 2018 and we haven’t had any issues with them thus far. Norman Chu Systems Administrator, Network Infrastructure Team IT Services T: 514-398-7299 norman@mcgill.ca<mailto:norman@mcgill.ca> | www.mcgill.ca/it<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mcgill.ca%2Fit&data=04%7C01%7Crichie.penuela%40UCF.EDU%7C0248899d25f74369745908d8c472a372%7Cbb932f15ef3842ba91fcf3c59d5dd1f1%7C0%7C0%7C637475344276372475%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=OCrWTwEhANXRRq1iCNFoXDZntDG5pdiucB9YJD5ZXYA%3D&reserved=0> 805 rue Sherbrooke Ouest, Burnside Hall, Montréal, QC. H3A-0B9 Canada [cid:image007.png@01D6F646.D5CDB460] From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Hales, David Sent: January 29, 2021 10:09 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXTERNAL] [WIRELESS-LAN] protecting AP's in a gym? We installed several in the Oberon 1020-00 boxes. They look nice and are pretty roomy inside. David Hales Network Systems Administrator Information Technology Services Tennessee Tech University 1010 N. Peachtree Av., CLEM117 Cookeville, TN 38505 P: 931-372-3983 E: dha...@tntech.edu<mailto:dha...@tntech.edu> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Shoebottom, Bryan Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 6:13 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXTERNAL] [WIRELESS-LAN] protecting AP's in a gym? External Email Warning This email originated from outside the university. Please use caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding to requests. We are about to install APs and antennas within an Oberon enclosure, specifically: https://oberoninc.com/products/1021-00/<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foberoninc.com%2Fproducts%2F1021-00%2F&data=04%7C01%7Crichie.penuela%40UCF.EDU%7C0248899d25f74369745908d8c472a372%7Cbb932f15ef3842ba91fcf3c59d5dd1f1%7C0%7C0%7C637475344276382474%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Js9ULu3MoBaDupoRYPk0d3jDNMwbXLHj8nOuqM0dOD8%3D&reserved=0> They’re NEMA4 rated and we’re hoping they’ll handle any abuse. -- Regards, Bryan Shoebottom Network & Systems Specialist Network Services & Computer Operations 1001 Fanshawe College Blvd. London, ON N5Y 5R6 T 519.452.4430 x4904 | F 519.453.3231 bshoebot...@fanshawec.ca<mailto:bshoebot...@fanshawec.ca> [cid:image008.png@01D6F646.D5CDB460] From: Enfield, Chuck mailto:cae...@psu.edu>> Sent: January 28, 2021 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [WIRELESS-LAN] protecting AP's in a gym? We use an appropriately sized polyethylene or ABS NE
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who has transitioned away from Aruba, and why?
We have been running v8.5.0.4 (clustered controllers off of a mobility master) with a little over 4100 AP305’s and AP325’s for a couple of months and things have been stable here. Prior to this, v8.3.0.8 was causing us a few issues. Norman Chu Systems Administrator, Network Infrastructure Team IT Services T: 514-398-7299 norman@mcgill.ca | www.mcgill.ca/it<http://www.mcgill.ca/it> 805 rue Sherbrooke Ouest, Burnside Hall, Montréal, QC. H3A-0B9 Canada [1501096696117_IITSlogo4email-cleaner-350.png] From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Michael Hulko Sent: January 9, 2020 11:58 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who has transitioned away from Aruba, and why? May not be completely related, but we have had issues with newer AX chipsets that utilize NDIS 6.3 code set. Some of the advanced features had to be turned off as a work around such as packet coalescing etc. ALthough we have no 515’s in our environment, we are progressing to 8.6 (as per our SE) in the coming weeks and this does not make me comfortable. Any issues with the 300 series APs and 8.5x? May rethink and downgrade to 8.3x as it also seems to only support the AP103Hs as well. M On Jan 9, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Lee H Badman <00db5b77bd95-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:00db5b77bd95-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu>> wrote: No insult meant to anyone’s intelligence, but are you also looking at client device drivers etc in the context of these issues? Depending on which client NIC is in play, the device makers haven’t been doing us any favors of late. Is very possible for example that hundreds of AD-managed laptops may all have same bum driver. Just asking… Lee Badman | Network Architect (CWNE#200) Information Technology Services (NDD Group) 206 Machinery Hall 120 Smith Drive Syracuse, New York 13244 t 315.443.3003 e lhbad...@syr.edu<mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu> w its.syr.edu<http://its.syr.edu> SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY syr.edu<http://syr.edu> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of David Morton Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 11:39 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who has transitioned away from Aruba, and why? Ryan, we have been experiencing some of the very same issues. Since installing 515s and resulting 8.5.x code in our offices (always our first step to any migration) we too have experienced unexplained periods of no connectivity. In most or all the cases I’ve personally experienced, I believe that I remain connected at an 802.11 standpoint but will have that 30 seconds to a couple of minutes of no IP connectivity. We have now deployed 515s and 8.5.x in one of our residence halls so I am concerned about their experience as well. Just before the holiday break we had a series of very high-profile outages that impacted our students leading up to and during finals week. The issue got so bad that our CIO had to issue a letter to students explaining the problem and what we are doing about it. This is the first time that this level of communication was needed in my 15 years at the UW using Aruba. We too are a heavy Juniper shop and have recently received a MIST demo kit. We haven’t done anything with it yet due to lack of resources, but if things continue on the current path we may give it a more serious look. David David Morton Director, Network & Telecom Design/Architecture University of Washington dmorton @uw.edu tel 206.221.7814 PS I am currently on medical leave so if you wish to reply off-list, please direct it to Amel Caldwell, amelc@ uw.edu<http://uw.edu/> On Jan 9, 2020, at 8:15 AM, Turner, Ryan H mailto:rhtur...@email.unc.edu>> wrote: All: We’ve been an Aruba shop for a very long time and have around 10,000 access points. While every relationship with vendors have their ups and downs, my frustration with the Aruba is finally peaking to the point that I am considering making the enormous move to choose a different vendor. The biggest reason is with the 8.X code train, and bugs that we just don’t consider appropriate to use in production. It has been one thing after the other, and my extremely talented and qualified Network Architect (Keith Miller) might as well be on the Aruba payroll as much work as he has been doing for them to solve bugs. Just when we think we have one fixed, another one crops up. The big one as of late is with 515s running 8.5 code train. We have them deployed in one of our IT buildings. Periodically, people that are connected to these APs in the 5G band will stop working. To the user, they are browsing a site, then it becomes unresponsive. If they are on their phone, they will disconnect from wifi and everything works fine on cell. Nothin
RE: Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED
McGill University 55,000 unique MAC addresses on a typical day with peak simultaneous clients at 30,000 devices 4300 Aruba Networks access points Controller Based Aruba Airwave Management Primary SSID eduroam? - No Guest/Visitor Management system - HP Aruba Clearpass + Homegrown Norman Chu Network Analyst - Network Infrastructure group Systems Engineering - McGill NCS (514) 398-7299 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Watters, John Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 10:06 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of responses but the information is of limited use without other information to go with it. If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will tabulate it and send it back out to the list. How about the following info: School name Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at guests) during a typical school day Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand Whether the APs are standalone or controller based Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none, etc.) For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows: The University of Alabama 45,000 clients Cisco 5,000 APs Controller based HP Aruba Airwave management If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we can get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers to all of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and try to get the poll sent out next THU? -jcw [UA Logo] John Watters The University of Alabama Office of Information Technology 205-348-3992 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Naming conventions for WLAN devices
We're looking for ideas to improve our current naming convention for network devices. For an access point, it currently consists of: --ap e.g. burnside-1-ap24 For controllers, we use: wireless--wmc e.g. wireless-local1-wmc (wmc = wireless mobility controller) For access points, we're thinking of adding location info instead of the arbitrary number, so something like: burnside-1-ap101a where 101a is the first AP in room 101 (101b would be the second AP, etc.) Switches: burnside-sw1, burnside-sw2 UPS's: burnside-ups-1, burnside-ups2-1 PoE midspans: burnside-poe-1, burnside-poe2-1 What do other organizations use for naming conventions for their network devices? Thanks. Norman Chu Network Analyst - Network Infrastructure group Systems Engineering - McGill NCS (514) 398-7299 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] LG070 (MyLGNet) phones on campus wireless network?
How have these LG phones been working on your network, Lee? Have you had any feedback from the students that are using these LG phones on your wireless network? Following your example, we tracked down a few users that are using these LG phones at McGill and asked them to participate in a pilot to enable these phones on our wireless network and get rid of their old base stations. We manually added them to our Aruba system via user derivation rules to put them into their own role. I’ve got two users so far that are in the same residence and both seem to be giving antecdotal feedback saying that they are getting some quality issues and every once in a while, they get disconnected throughout the course of an evening while they are talkng on the phone. When I check the logs for their phone’s MAC address, it seems to show that these phones are roaming a lot and in the course of their roaming, they may get disconnected. I’m assuming that the student is staying in their dorm room (I’ll have to ask to make sure that this is the case) and I haven’t asked the students to note down exact times of their disconnections just yet. I’ve added a third phone to our system just now (residing in a different residence) and a fourth one will be added soon. As an open question to those that offer this service, has anyone had feedback from the students as to whether these phones perform better or worse on the wireless network than they did when they were using their base station? Norman Chu Network Analyst - Network Infrastructure Systems Engineering - McGill NCS McGill University (514) 398-7299 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Angela K Hollman Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 3:28 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] LG070 (MyLGNet) phones on campus wireless network? We are using SafeConnect to keep the computers off. It seems to be working well so far, but we have had a few issues with Wii's that don't have the Internet Channel. We just started the gaming network this year and we will most likely refresh the key every year unless something goes awry. I guess I'm not too concerned about wardriving with an Xbox. Perhaps I should be? Sincerely, _ Angela K. Hollman Information Technology Services Asst Director of Networking (308)865-8176 From:Lee H Badman To:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Date:09/13/2010 08:39 AM Subject:Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] LG070 (MyLGNet) phones on campus wireless network? Sent by:The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv Hi Angela, Thanks for the information. On your wireless gaming network, have you had good luck with SafeConnect properly identifying the various consoles while keeping users out? Also- how do you refresh the PSK value occasionally? -Lee From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Angela K Hollman Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:29 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] LG070 (MyLGNet) phones on campus wireless network? Lee, We were able to set up our users successfully on our gaming network (WPA2-PSK) with an Aruba wireless system. SafeConnect is on that network but the phones are identified as Media and are working just fine. I don't know if that helps at all. Sincerely, _ Angela K. Hollman Information Technology Services Asst Director of Networking (308)865-8176 From:Lee H Badman To:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Date:09/13/2010 08:20 AM Subject:Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] LG070 (MyLGNet) phones on campus wireless network? Sent by:The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv Updates from SU on the Korean myLGNet phones: - We have one happy young lady on the network- simple MAC registration on our open network like MIT does it. (Again- their excellent page is here: http://kb.mit.edu/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=5898281) - We have another phone that our Cisco system seems to be containing, and so far can find no reason why. All APs are walloping this particular user with deauthentications, and we’re trying to figure out why. An open TAC case so far isn’t going real far. Anyone seen a client being forcefully rejected by the Cisco WLAN for no apparent reason? So- we’re batting .500. But we also have anecdotal evidence from the young lady that we were able to help that she has friends who will be calling us to likewise be enabled. We are asking that they send a photo of the device MAC (handset) behind the battery, so that we can verify we’re not enabling something that we would rather not. If this
RE: Big Aruba Environments- Management of multiple controllers
We're using Airwave in monitor-only mode. For configuration, we login to the controllers via the CLI or the GUI and make the necessary configuration changes. Norman Chu Network Analyst - Network Infrastructure Systems Engineering - McGill NCS McGill University (514) 398-7299 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:55 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Big Aruba Environments- Management of multiple controllers Wondering how bigger Aruba shops are centrally managing multiple controllers? From what I can tell right now, AirWave is pretty much an effective graphical monitoring tool, but is pretty anemic at configuration of Aruba. Am I missing something? -Lee Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
